MLB 2K8 - Too much content to fit on 360 disc

sonarus - 684 days 9 hours ago

yea digital downloads will be blurays downfall indeed.

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tony - 684 days 8 hours ago

maybe in the near future..

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bourner - 684 days 7 hours ago

sonarus dont be so down because your hd dvd lost and think about what hes saying . hes saying the blu ray means more space and better bigger games games not that blu ray is better than digital download

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mikeslemonade - 684 days 7 hours ago

Yea the same people who are defending that downloading content because the original disc could not hold it all was bashing the DMC4 install too. Only this is a MLB game. If a sports game need it then pretty soon most games will need more space.

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w57cpd - 684 days 7 hours ago

Sony fanboys condemns the 360s DVD9 format because of free downloadable content for a baseball game lacking some unlockable stadiums and Cool Base alternate uniforms. Yet they justify a 5GB requirement installation on some upcoming games. Lets face it both of the system have their downside.

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Lifendz - 684 days 6 hours ago

don't say we didn't tell you guys. Can't blame ya though. I almost committed to a 360. Happy I didn't but you live and learn I suppose.

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Maddens Raiders - 684 days 6 hours ago

and ask her what she meant when she said developers will no longer state that blu-ray is needed.

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mikeslemonade - 684 days 3 hours ago

Downloading because you don't have enough space on DVD9 is worst than the 5gb installation on DMC4:
1. DVD9 is a limitation
2. Not all games on PS3 have large install like Uncharted
3. Only inexperience developers of the PS3 will use the large install option
4. Pretty soon most games on 360 will surpass DVD9 and not everyone has a HDD or 120HDD, so 360 owners will have to buy bigger first party expensive HDD
5.The install is a benefit to the game like increasing load times, but the DVD9 download limitiation has no benefits.

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marinelife9 - 684 days 3 hours ago

I want every 360 owner to say "Blu-Ray is useless for gaming" while looking at themselves in a mirror. You can lie to fanboys over the internet but you can't lie to yourself.

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AngryTypingGuy - 683 days 18 hours ago

No one thinks that BluRay is useless for gaming, because it is. Any disc with that much capacity is useful. BluRay is something that PS3 does right that the 360 does not. The next gen Xbox will run BluRay discs.

However, so far this generation, DVD9 has proven to be enough for 99% of games. For the most part, games run slightly smoother on the 360, not to mention look slightly better because programmers know how to get more out of it. Also, the 360 will never require a half hour load time like the PS3 does for DMC4. So both systems have their pros and cons and only pathetic fanboys won't admit that.

I've always said that a system is only as good as its games, so get the one that's right for you. Sorry, not everyone on earth will choose a PS3.

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Jenzo - 683 days 17 hours ago

Here's the reason an internet connection is needed.

I wonder what will be faster, installing the game on the PS3 or downloading the stadiums and uniforms for the 360?

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xhairs - 683 days 15 hours ago

#1 - The next-gen XBOX will NOT have a Blu-ray player, they're moving to DD (digital downloads) in case you haven't read the 5 million posts saying it will crush Blu-Ray.
2nd, when you're forced to log in, download, then install the content to an HDD (that may or may not be present due to if you have spent EXTRA money to get one or not) that all takes as much time (possibly a little less) than just slidin the disc in, clicking play and having the game install it for you. I for one just cleaned up the house a little while it installed, no big deal for me. (But I can see how some little kids might whine and complain about it)
3rd, as far as running smoother and looking smoother on the 360 goes, yes I agree, even CoD4 shows this, however with the release of the new PhyreEngine, I'm sure that will change (especially since it's multiplatform) if they start making all the games using this engine, the 360 can not in no way match up the PS3, it's impossible.
Stop crediting yourself and look at your own post and call yourself something other than a fan boy, I dare you.

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fusionboxer - 683 days 13 hours ago

When people say the next gen xbox will have a blu ray drive it's possible it might. Just don't expect it to have the same one in the current playstation 3.

I'm sure the R&D department at sony and now toshiba (laughs) are working on blu ray drives with faster read times so load times would increase without using various tricks and installations.

So if the next xbox did in fact have a blu ray drive it would most likely be an improved one.

Next would be sony releasing a slimmed down ps3 with a faster blu ray drive that everyone would then rush out to purchase due to the huge library of games on the system at that point.

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AngryTypingGuy - 683 days 12 hours ago

Xhairs, do you honestly think that the next Xbox won't have a disc drive. And if it does have one (which it will), do you think they would have DVD9? No, they'll use BluRay, since it's the winning format.

Yes, MS is looking to increase their DD business, but they'll also want a disc drive in their next console. It would hurt it sales-wise not to.

"Stop crediting yourself and look at your own post and call yourself something other than a fan boy, I dare you." -- Is it that time of the month for you? Yeah, I'm an Xbox fanboy, and proudly so. However my fanboyism isn't extreme to the point where I hate the other companies. I wish success for all 3 brands - it's what is best for the industry and the customers as well. And I still say that anyone who can't acknowledge that each console has its pros and cons is only lying to himself and is pathetic.

Good luck with your PhyreEngine.

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ben hates you - 684 days 11 hours ago

one thing i know, everyone i know who bought the core edition bought a hard drive, i mean you can't do much with out it, and i could careless about this game, all sports games are the same you buy one and your set

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Jenzo - 683 days 17 hours ago

If you don't buy a rumble controller for the PS3 you don't get rumble. If you don't buy component cables you don't get HD. I'd rather have that out of the box than miss out on some uniforms/stadiums.

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xhairs - 683 days 15 hours ago

Rumble is a feature, not a requirement. Not to mention an HD cable is $50 tops, HDD? You're looking upwards to double that amount, so I don't understand what your post is even trying say. I would much rather only pay $50 and an optional $45 (rumble) than have to buy an HDD and wifi add-ons (this is also an option), etc. etc.

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tethered - 684 days 12 hours ago

What about Burnout on the 360?

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KnaveX - 684 days 12 hours ago

If they had no hard drive online couldn't be played thats what

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tethered - 684 days 12 hours ago

Oh wow. I didn't know that. That would suck.
Thanks KnaveX

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socomnick - 684 days 11 hours ago

Ok so you cant play burnout if you did not have a hardrive right but you cant log in to live without a hardrive so whats the big problem ?

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Skerj - 684 days 10 hours ago

What? I thought you could log into Live without the hard drive, if not then why is that stupid XBLA download limit imposed for people without hard drives. If they can't get onto Live wtf are they going to download?

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EZCheez - 684 days 7 hours ago

I log into Live and I don't have a hard drive. My profile is saved on the memory card.

However, I just bought one off of ebay because I need one. I only bought the arcade because it's all that's left where I live other than the limited edition Halo 360's.

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switch-it - 684 days 11 hours ago

We got Lost Odyssey so its begun already.

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Wildarmsjecht - 684 days 12 hours ago

Without a hardrive, online play wasnt possible.

Edit- Hard drive*

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Kain81 - 684 days 12 hours ago

for the 360-versio you need an Harddrive and all owners of the Core version cant play it online.
PS3 is definatly the superior version

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Real Gambler - 684 days 11 hours ago

But I would think that one of the main reason would be the fact that in most games, you see the same bad guys over, and over, and over. In a game like baseball, I would assume that all your bad guys are totally unique, i.e., they have to keep a 360degree picture of about hundreds and hundreds of different player's faces (that alone is huge. Remember, those guys do not wear helmets like in hockey, so lots of details). Then you have to have stats for each of these players. Simple things like, "are they left handed?" is important. (how often have you seen a left handed bad guy in any other games?). Different uniforms, stadiums, etc. Now, add to this that today's baseball games if by default bigger than ever before. Higher graphics, weather conditions, crowd moving, you name it. I can definitively see such a type of game getting bigger than 9 gigs...

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xhairs - 683 days 15 hours ago

I see what you mean but that's why functions and references are made within the code. They pretty much map out a model, and place a picture on it, whether it be 2 different baseball players or what, the only thing that's really taking up the space is the pictures of the people. As far as crowds go, aren't they all exactly the same for every field you play at? Atleast that's what I see... I don't know, to me it's just simple referencing within the code, so it should not take up space, but the pictures take up space whether you optimize it to a jpeg or leave it a crappy BMP.

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shine1396 - 684 days 12 hours ago

downloads are cheaper....

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hotshot127 - 684 days 12 hours ago

which would be irritating. i wouldn't want to switch disks everytime i want new apparel. @shine. and that too. it all just seems easier for download considering most 360 owners have live anyway

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heyheyhey - 684 days 12 hours ago

also if the content is something miniscule like 500mb, then it would seem foolish to waste a whole extra disc on it

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Arriemo - 684 days 11 hours ago

MS wont allow any multiplatform game to pass certification that is released on more than one dvd. Having 1 disk on the ps3 would be more attractive for buyers then 2+ disks on the 360 and MS doesn't want that. GTA4 can only be on one disk, as an example. 360 exclusives can be on as many disks as the developers want it to be.

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Gina-get-u - 684 days 11 hours ago

That's good info. Can you give me a link so I can archive it?

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cmrbe - 684 days 11 hours ago

After reading comment from people like POG and the lot i get the impression they don't mind having multiple disc. Man i am so happy that i have blu for my games.

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Genesis5 - 684 days 10 hours ago

2 discs makes online play very difficult.

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heyheyhey - 684 days 11 hours ago

the question is:

why are they STILL selling the arcade SKU

HDD's are quickly becoming a necessity and the more arcade untis they sell, the more this oppurtunity becomes restricted for them

if i were M$, i would have discontinued the arcade SKU ages ago, lifted the 150mb limit on XBLA games and let devs take advantage of the hard drive

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Gina-get-u - 684 days 11 hours ago

They were thinking they could sell it for less?

Now don't get me wrong. I think the core/arcade is a bad idea too, but it's not irrational.

Edit: ouch you changed your comment on me. If you change "discount" to "discontinue" then I would have to agree with you 100%.

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mrlakadaddy - 684 days 3 hours ago

need the arcade if they want to continue selling thier propriety hard drives thus ensuring that they will make more money.

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Bill Gates - 684 days 12 hours ago

AHAHHHAHHHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHHAHH AHAA

What now BABOONS?..

If you don't own a HDD, than go BUY ONE from M$ because that's the reason they stuck with DVD9 and didn't include a HDD with every console,....TO RIP YOU OFF.....AHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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ben hates you - 684 days 11 hours ago

yea i think i know who the real baboon is... you

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pwnsause - 684 days 11 hours ago

nah, I think hes right about xbots being baboons.

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Homicide - 684 days 10 hours ago

LOL! Stupid xbots believing DVD-9 is big enough for all games.

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BrianC6234 - 684 days 9 hours ago

"LOL! Stupid xbots believing DVD-9 is big enough for all games."

This is too much. Just wait for another year. Then what? Games are just getting bigger and bigger. I've read where sometimes a Blu-ray was almost too small. That's because they include all the languages in the game so I guess that could be cut back. But what do you do for DVD?

I guess EA could have the game on two DVDs. One for the AL and one for the NL. I guess a third could be for the World Series so the two teams could play each other. Or maybe a download?

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Kain81 - 684 days 11 hours ago

thanks to 360

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BrianC6234 - 684 days ago

Kain81 - If the game is downgraded on the PS3 because of the 360 you can always buy Sony's baseball game. The demo is great so it might be a better game anyway.

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heyheyhey - 684 days 12 hours ago

this is only the 360's third year

and we already have Lost Oddysey on 4 disks, Blue Dragon on 3 (which basically proves the 360 is crap for big RPG's), no online Burnout for the HDD-less, lack of content on disk for this game

what M$ don't seem to understand is that most publishers won't bother with more than a 4-disk set which means that the 360 is pretty much limited to 36gb, or the devs have to heavily compress the games or release the missing content on XBL- which will clog the hard drive fast

and 36gb seems like a lot- but games are constantly evolving and now we are getting games that require huge capacities- like MGS4 which requires more than 30gb at least

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power of Green - 684 days 11 hours ago

Good point.

Good lord theres alot of pent up anger in here. lol

Must be feeling the reality of how the year will play out.

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PirateThom - 684 days 11 hours ago

2K... didn't they make Bioshock?

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heyheyhey - 684 days 11 hours ago

they sure did PirateThom- these 360 fans can say laughable things at times (and by that i mean every 5 minutes)

and assasin- Oblivion re-used textures like it's some kind of re-cycling campaign and lets face it- it wasn't exactly a looker

and i don't think they have confirmed on how many discs Fable or Farcry will be

although im still puzzled by by GTA4- even though it's obvious it's not exactly a graphical feat- they must be using the same tricks as bethesda did with Oblivion

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pwnsause - 684 days 11 hours ago

excuse me? blu-ray sucks for games? ask Naughty dog and insomniac if it sucks. as of matter of fact ask the guys at Kojima Productions, where kojima states that his game might not fit into a 50gb Blu-ray disc.

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Ri0tSquad - 684 days 1 hour ago

I don't know how they could fail because the game doesn't fit on your almighty Xbox 360 dvd. Oh well, MLB 08 will sh!!t on this game.

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BrianC6234 - 684 days ago

Welcome to the future Xbot. Things are going to get bad for you free here on out. The PS3 will be getting some huge games. Xbots, not so much. You're always welcome to join the real revolution though.

Maybe Microsoft will release a Blu-ray add-on for you. Oh, wait, that will only be good for movies. Too bad.

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BrianC6234 - 684 days ago

"Blu-Gay is great for movies - SUCKS for games now go die plz"

Bwahaha. You funny. You wish the Xbox 1.5 had Blu-ray I bet.

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Dragon Boy - 683 days 14 hours ago

There are 29 basesball teams, 29 tripple A teams, 29 double A teams, 87 different stadiums, 2610 players, 6-10 different modes, and add in the high def graphic you can kind see why running out of space on DVD9 is pretty common.

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pwnsause - 684 days 11 hours ago

FAIL

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Fat Bastard - 684 days 6 hours ago

"Anyways its funny how PS3 gamers dont give a damn about a game like left for dead but care ALOT for a baseball game."

Harry Potter thinks its funny how you "dont give a damn" about Resistance 2, Killzone 2, LBP, MGS4, GT5, Tekken 6, God of War 3, FFXIII, La Noire, and the countless other PS3 exclusives. Yet you do "care ALOT" for stupid games like left 4 dead and halo wars. Harry Potter sees through your stupidity to the poopy lump you are inside all that talk. Harry Potter thinks you and all the other 360 vermin cumbags are dumb.

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BrianC6234 - 684 days ago

"So I really dont get PS3 fanboys , strange creatures..."

I agree. Anyone who buys a piece of crap that breaks down every two weeks with the RROD is a strange creature. Oops, that isn't PS3 fanboys. That's Xbots. How could anyone buy a console made by Microslop?

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Snukadaman - 684 days 10 hours ago

when you cant even spell expect or friday... I think its time too hit the books and stay off these boards until you get some knowledge and reading comprehension ...theres a dam spell check on this sheit for gods sake.

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Gaara_724 - 684 days 10 hours ago

u know if u use the spell check u would notice that it is kid. not kid... u know an extra 2 doots (..) is just well a typo so shut the f up

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Snukadaman - 684 days 7 hours ago

shiet..it makes it even worst..some dumb azz adult...when you cant spell friday or expect its not a typo..its probably some slight mental retardation...

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PirateThom - 684 days 10 hours ago

Considering the content is a FREE download... what does that say?

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jke82 - 684 days 9 hours ago

yeah its just a crappy baseball game anyway AND NOBODY likes baseball that has a 360 anyway so there ya dumb fanboys!!! and besides who cares if its not on the disk i can just down load it.....wait i dont have a hdd damn im screwed... (end sarcasm) ANY way since you didnt read the article ill spell it out for you dvd9 cant hold all of the content hence the reason they are releasing it for free on xbl so they can compete with sony. the bad part is people with out internet access or hdd will not be able to get the content period. its pretty sad really that fanboys will defend this to the death saying oh well its just a crappy basball game anyway...someones gotta like baseball on 360 hence the reason for the release of the game ON 360!!

and using your own argument against you pwned, if its just crappy baseball game how come the 360 cant hold it how come the ps3 has no storage problems at all JUST FOR THIS LITTLE BASEBALL GAME, and whats gonna happen when something bigger than a little baseball game comes out that the 360s storage media cant handle....??? any thing?? answer at all?? no.... i thought not. your name is fitting cause i just pwnd you.....

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pwnsause - 684 days 8 hours ago

?? YOU FAIL.

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