Bungie dev: 60-man Resistance 2 will be a 'challenge'

v1c1ous - 677 days 1 hour ago

he's is not saying 60 person multiplayer CAN'T be done.

it's more like "so you got 60 people in a game. now what? what's to stop this from turning into a frag fest where nothing gets accomplished?"

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Anego Montoya FTMFW - 677 days 1 hour ago

RFOM2 vs HALO3 (2 years after the launch of each system.)

RFOM2- 60 players
HALO3- 12 to 16 players

RFOM2- 8 Player Co-op
HALO3- 4 Player Co-op

RFOM2- 2 storys
HALO3- 1 story

RFOM2- Looks Unreal
HALO3- Looks OK

RFOM2- 720p/1080i (possibly 1080p)
HALO3- 640p

RFOM2- 60FPS (most likely, Ratchet was)
HALO3- 30FPS (i think, not sure)

IMO

bungie should just sit back and enjoy their success right now.
because RFOM2 is a serious problem for them and their image.

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CRIMS0N_W0LF - 677 days 1 hour ago

It was done and not ended in a frag feast and it had team seperations. I'm talking about Battlefield. I saw the some of the most tactical matches 32 vs 32 players.

Most tactic "matches" I saw were on PlanetSide, where different clans meet up and pratice formations to raid a whole planet

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v1c1ous - 677 days 1 hour ago

@1.2

way to miss what i just said

@1.3

yes, it is possible to make such a huge game be controlled, but it all depends on what methods the developers go through to keep the game balanced.

that's the main problem Imsonmiac has to overcome.

and don't get me confused as defending bungie either. i played halo 3, and even with 8 vs 8, that game is filled to the rim with LONE WOLF type gamers who won't listen to reason or work together,

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jwatt - 677 days 1 hour ago

People at bungie were not trying to bash Insomniac and I agree with what they were saying. 40 players is alot but I felt like it was too hectic.

Now Insomniac said they will address this issues by splitting teams up into groups and giving them thier own objectives. That sounds like that can help out alot and I am definitely looking forward to this games.

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Fragking28 - 677 days 1 hour ago

1000 players on a 56k dial up connection yeah right buddy

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wallace1000 - 677 days ago

What game ever had 1000 player games? That must have taken a long time to find that many players :-P

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TheSadTruth - 677 days ago

The original resistance multiplayer was pretty bad.. first off you die WAY too quick considering how much autoaim their is.. makes it so even little 10 year old's can aim

The truth is that is just too many people in a console game.. it makes the game fast paced but it's just boring spawning and dieing from getting shot in the back and since there's so much autoaim, the best Resistance players will still get killed by low skill players. The nades are pretty ridiculous as well.. I mean all you have to do is touch a player with a nade and they explode on impact, takes the skill and timing out of a normally skilled weapon. I do like the sniper rifle from what I recall... takes some skill to use effectively. Before anyone flame's me.. I also think Halo 3's multiplayer is pretty bad too.. just because the horrid map designs... I've been doing nothing but play CoD 4 as of late. Good, now Sony and MS fans can both mass disagree me.

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Jenzo - 676 days 21 hours ago

Bigger isn't always better...

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gambare - 676 days 21 hours ago

It's obvious that the Halo3 MP engie never player BF2, BF2 got a healthy 32 vs 32 players on a single map, and it wasn't a "running chatroom"

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RelloC_ReBorn - 676 days 19 hours ago

dude, she is just telling you that to make you feel better.

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kwicksandz - 676 days 18 hours ago

you must have been smoking some powerful stuff to dream that up. you cant even run 3 player games without lag on 56k with your neighbour

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rofldings - 676 days 16 hours ago

"Massive numbers should not mean massive confusion: 60 players (up from Resistance's max number of 40) may sound like an awful lot, but Insomniac is doing everything in their power to make sure competitive battles don't get out of hand. Players will be split into lobbies of six-to-eight-member squads, each with unique objectives. Specific areas on each map will foster frantic large-scale battles, but most of the fighting should come in the former of smaller skirmishes."

No. Sorry, that sounds like fun. Not just a 60 person frag fest.

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Monty_The_Great - 676 days 15 hours ago

Line of the Year.

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ngg12345 - 676 days 14 hours ago

:o.

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BobDog - 676 days 13 hours ago

massive numbers have been done of 56k, but u got to remember when u had 128mb of ram and a 20gig hardrive and games were a couple hundred megs

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Jenzo - 676 days 13 hours ago

I was referring to the subject at hand. The penis measuring contest is that way --->

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Stubacca - 676 days 3 hours ago

Anego Montoya FTMFW, good point. Bubbles for you.

V1c1ous, have you played resistence? Because if you have, you would know the maps can be massive. As such, these battles turn out to be good old-fashioned war and not just a 'frag fest'.

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Blankman - 677 days 2 hours ago

The media has already dubbed resistance 2 as a halo killer lol to get the record straight killzone 2 is the halo killer not resistance. Resistance is gears killer lol.
if they could do 40 without feeling like running around in a chat room why do you doubt they can do 60. Sure it will be hard but thats not to say it can't be done. Insomniac has an excellent track record and they are an excellent games studio. They have made 2 really good games in 2 yrs on a console notorious for difficult development and it looks like they are about to deliver a 3rd in resistance 2. Bungie hasnt worked on anything but halo in almost a decade yet halo runs at 640p on xbox

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BloodySinner - 677 days 2 hours ago

...yet you worship the 600p Call of Duty 4? Wow!

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shysun - 677 days 2 hours ago

COD4 looks like a HD games, Halo3 dosen't.

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BloodySinner - 677 days 1 hour ago

Basically had you not been told that COD4 was running only at 600p, you wouldn't have been able to tell the difference.

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Johnny Wadd - 677 days 1 hour ago

@ blankman & bloodysinner:

Not to flame or anything.... but you can't tell the diff. between 720p and 1080p unless you've got a LCD/Plasma tv that's 46 inch or higher. I don't think the general public knows how to distinguish true HD on a smaller tv. That's why I laugh at those people who spends the extra dough to buy a tv that's 1080p but the screen-size is only 37 or 40 inch..... LOL silly consumers that doesn't do their research.

just a side note, you can definitely see the diff. between Resistance/Halo 3 on my 52 inch sony.... I chose the 2 to compare because they are similar games. However, I enjoyed Halo 2 a lot more than Halo 3.

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Bombomb - 677 days 1 hour ago

only if you actually thought about what you've just said, you wouldn't have fallen for the trap.

Good trap and bait sinner...

see, it's all in the mind..so mindless delusional fanboys

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Pain - 677 days 1 hour ago

Have Not been hyped for ANY other FPS since Perfect Dark 64.

This game is going to Rock.

And Make others take a look at what they doing .

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Perkel - 677 days ago

@ Johny Wadd

pff haha sorry guy u are wrong

1080p on 24 or 40 or 100 inch tv is still 1080p. I have Sony KDL40W2000 and yes it's 1080p and 40" 1080p in Lair is mindblowing and waaaay better than 720p Motorstorm.

Can't see the diffrence ? You are blind my friend then. More, picture at bigger tv with 1080p looks worse than same picture at smaller tv with 1080p. Go figure why..

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wow14 - 677 days ago

Resistence (86) and Killzone (70!?) have both been owned by the Halo Series (97,95,94).

Really, it is the universal opinion of the industry that RFOM and KZ are second rate when compared to the pinnacle of the genre: Halo.

YOU might disagree -- its your right -- but the collective wisdom of the industry says you are incorrect (in the sense that one can be right/wrong about such things..).

Edit, just show you something of interest:

MGS 94
MGS2 96
MGS3 94
Average 94.6 / 100

Halo 97
Halo 2 95
Halo 3 94
Average: 95.3 / 100

So, In the pantheon of Shooters, are you going to say that RFOM and KZ(!?) are better than MGS? Because they would have to be in order to be "better" than Halo.

M'kay thanks.

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Johnny Wadd - 677 days ago

@ Perkel:

You, my friend, are wrong. In order to truly "see" the difference between 720p vs 1080p, you have to have a television that's preferably, 50 inch or larger. As you sit at the same distance from the TV from 40 inch or 52 inch, you can tell the difference. What you're buying for in the 50 inch or larger 1080p tv is the clarity/resolution factor that you get as you move away from the TV. As you move away from a 1080p 40 inch tv, you will notice a pretty significant image deterioration. Go on AV forum and read the faq list. Trust me, 1080p for a 40 inch is just a way for tv companies to get more of your money.

You're right in the sense that 1080p @ 20 or 24 inch is the same....
But it also looks the same when you compare 720p @ 20 or 24 inch between its respective 1080p counterparts. Because the tv's are so small, you can't see the extra resolution/pixels on the 1080p. In essence, you've paid extra for something you can't see.

Oh yeah, if you sit close enough to the 40, your pictures will turn crappy just as when you sit close enough to the 50.

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RecSpec - 677 days ago

@wow14

What the hell are you talking about? MGS is not a FPS.

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SSCOOLCHEA - 677 days ago

it got 10 10 10 9.5 .....and thats was from and xbot magazine EGM

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kurochi - 676 days 23 hours ago

@ Perkel:

ha ha ha ha ha
what the hell are you talking about? Go read up on some of the facts before you embarrass yourself in regard to the HDTV subject.....

ha ha ha ha ha ha

I'm sorry, it's just so funny at how brain-washed you are by the tv companies..... ha ha ha You should return the 40 inch you got and spend the extra grand to really enjoy 1080p on the 50 inch..... ha ha ha ha ha ha

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Johnny Wadd - 676 days 21 hours ago

@ Crank:

You, get educated my friend.
Goto this link as these people know what they're talking about. What I said above is exactly what these people are talking about in greater detail. Have fun reading the post. I'm too lazy to explain the diff. to you. Bottom-line, on a smaller screen, you eyes cannot see the diff. from 720p vs 1080p. Of course if you're talking about 100 inch tv, your image will be lousy at 1080p and worse on 720p. But the optimal viewing distance for 1080p 50 inch is about 7-8 feet from the tv. But at 8ft for 720p 50 inch, it's not the same.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs...

Oh, one more thing. The quality of your display ultimately depends on your signal input. So, if COD4 and Halo 3 is only at 640p, than that's all you're gonna get (unless there's up-conversion involved). So, nobody can tell the difference unless, like I said on my previous post, you have 50 inch or above 1080p tv.

Please get educated. I suppose for some people, ignorance is bliss?

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pukka_p - 676 days 20 hours ago

#Wow14
Resistence (86) and Killzone (70!?) have both been owned by the Halo Series (97,95,94).
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I honestly thought - resistance 1986, Killzone 1970? Halo in 1997, 1995 and 1994? "What's this fool on about?", I thought...

Then I realised... Of course. Why would anyone ever want to argue their own opinion of a game when they can use another person's opinion expressed as a number out of 110?

I'm sorry to have a go, but I just played pixeljunk monsters yesterday (a true classic) having seen a score in a magazine of 7/10!!! Sooooooo very, very wrong. But then, that it just my opinion (although most agree with me this is a great game).

So back to my criticism.... Variable reviews with dubious scores are bad enough, but people quoting them like gospel is well just <INSERT OpenZone comment>. Please don't lower yourself to quoting random scores.

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socomnick - 676 days 20 hours ago

I dont mean to sound fanboys but imo resistance 1 multiplayer was absolute trash it felt tacked on. It was nowhere near what halo 3 multiplayer is. Resistance 2 might have a chance who knows.

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Mpiece - 676 days 15 hours ago

Crank...well said. I know a bit more than the average joe when it comes to this stuff . definitly not as much as you (pro)

and I have been saying the same thing on other forums of course in much less detail. What kills me the most is 90% of consumer dont even know what the real details are to look for when buying a tv or monitor, and you would be surprised as to what peoples questions are when searching for a tv or monitor. NO one that I have ever came across ever refers to ppi or dot pitch or the measurements

Most just argue over 1080 vs 720 ...occasionally they argue over contrast ratios or more rarely aspect ratios , and everyone expects perfection out of the box or as seen on display out of the box
i love tech first and self school myself for the most part and second i just so happen to be a salesmen and installer who does NOT calibrate tvs on a pro lvl but i do calibrate em...and as far as pro goes im a sound guy and i do calibrate those systems on a pro lvl

and as far as screen size goes you can only take recommended viewing distance into account...since at a fixed distance say 20ft a 50 inch and a 20 inch looks different at the same resolution DUH cuz your not going to sit 20 feet away from a 20 inch tv

anyway bubbles for you and dont mind my grammar and punctuation ...i just type

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Skizelli - 676 days 15 hours ago

You people pick the stupidest things to argue about. Talk about Small D#ck Syndrome.

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Perkel - 676 days 9 hours ago

pff BTW i have enought of stupid people who think 1080p (or any bigger resolution) is good only above 40inch or more. It's like fight with air...

Crank bubble for u for time spent fighting with air ^^

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Daurelus17 - 676 days 3 hours ago

MGS 94
MGS2 96
MGS3 94
Average 94.6 / 100

Halo 97
Halo 2 95
Halo 3 94
Average: 95.3 / 100
UR trying to compare the scores when MGS came out on the ps1 while the other 2 game out one ps2. mg2 on the ps2 was better then halos 2 score while halo 3(360) got the same as MGS3 (ps2). not to mention the halo scores go down since the game never changes. try to compare something else there buddy

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pukka_p - 675 days 23 hours ago

Have a bubble...

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wallace1000 - 677 days ago

I might have misinterpreted what you said but if you are referring to halo 3, big team battle is 16 person multilayer.

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PS360WII - 677 days ago

ah, well no you didn't misinterpet me and I guess that why I got 5 disagree's ^^ I've only done 8 people multiplayer games must of missed out on the 16 maps :(

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streeks1984 - 677 days 1 hour ago

AMEN! Bubbles for you!

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Pain - 677 days 1 hour ago

Cant say it beter then that.

Have some bubbles ^^

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Hatchetforce - 676 days 23 hours ago

I love HALO but damn if that isn't laying the truth down. Bubbles to you on that one.

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BrianC6234 - 676 days 22 hours ago

Joey - This shows the difference between Bungie and Insomniac. Bungie cries and calls it a challenge. Insomniac, they laugh in its face and say bring it on.

This reminds me of the babies who say the PS3 is too complicated. If you can't handle the PS3 stick with the weak 360. The 360 is fine if you're just a PC game developer. If you want to learn how to make real games though go with the PS3.

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Jason 360 - 676 days 22 hours ago

Come back and talk when Insomniac scores 3 9's in a row and has one of the biggest multiplayer game known. Also go find some GOTY award that Insomniac have won, and let me know when they sell 4 million copies in a day. No...then shut your little droid pie hole.

....."The Jason 360 has spoken"

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Genki - 676 days 18 hours ago

You're quoting third person accounts(reviews) from pundits, sales numbers from the teeming masses, and accolades from said pundits...you are WHOLLY submitting to arbitration and the BANDWAGON mentality, not once have you said what YOU appreciate about the game, and somehow he's the droid?

Logic much?

Nobody is saying Halo sucks, and although his numbers may have been off by a whole 4(ooh, big change), his POINT still stands.

That isn't to say that Resistance is necessarily better than Halo because of the numbers game, but from a volume and variation standpoint, you really can't argue that Halo doesn't and won't hold a candle to Resistance in that regard. For all I care you can consider Halo God and Resistance as Satan, that's your opinion.

Don't try to rationalize(read: damage control) 16 somehow being more than 40, let alone SIXTY.

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SlappyMcTaint - 676 days 18 hours ago

Those hating little Bungie b1tches!! Too bad they don't see how pathetic that comment makes them look. Feeling the heat of competition, are we, Bungie? Suck on it!!

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Bathyj - 676 days 15 hours ago

Um, of course its a challenge. Thats what Insomniac do. They challenge themselves, not sit back and milk what the did 7 years ago. Bungie have released the same game 3 times on two consoles. Insomniac have reinvented their technology 3 times in under two year and they've already stated they are aware they need to keep things from degenerating in 60 people just running wide. It will be all about being in squads and helping teammates. How far will you expect to get running in by yourself against 30 guys?

And 8 player co op? Bungie could never dream, and why would you bother? Most the SP levels are just copy and pasted corridors over and over.

You want innovation and vision, call Insomniac, you want a franchised milked, call Bungie, (what? no Lego Halo yet?)

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LeonSKennedy4Life - 677 days 1 hour ago

I love this section...

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Jason 360 - 676 days 21 hours ago

Viva Pinata 1280x720p 2xAA
COD4 (360) 1024×600p 2xAA
COD4 (PS3) 1024×600p 2xAA
Uncharted (PS3) 960×1080 in 1080p
Def Jam: Icon (PS3) 1152×648
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (PS3) 1920×1080 FullHD
Transformers (PS3) 960×1080
Pirates of the Caribbean (PS3 720p): 960×720
Pirates of the Caribbean (PS3 1080p): 780×1080
Oblivion (360): 1024×600 (PS3 version is full 720p)
ICO (PS2): 512×224p (less than Tekken on PS1 at 512×240)
VF5 (PS3 720p): 1024×1024 (same as 360)
VF5 (PS3 1080p): 1024×768
Full Auto 2: 1920×1080 AA 4x, bad framerate - PS3
NBA Street: 1920×1080 AA 4x (30-60fps) - 360
LocoRoco Cocoreccho 1920×1080 MSAA 2x -PS3
Tony Hawk Project 8: 1040×584 AA - 360
Tony Hawk Project 8: 1280×720 - PS3
Virtua Tennis 3: 1920×1080 AA 2x - PS3, 360
XMB: 1920×1080p - PS3
Dashboard: 1280×720p - 360
Perfect Dark Zero: 1138×640p - 360
Halo 3: 1152×640p - 360
Call of Duty 3: 1120×630p 360
Ninja Gaiden Sigma: 1280×720p PS3
Project Gotham Racing 3: 1024×600 360
Tomb Raider: 1024×600 360
Ridge Racer 7:
NBA 07: 1920×1080 - PS3
NBA 08: 1920×1080 - PS3
Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 600p - PS3
Tony Hawk Proving Ground: 720p - 360
GRAW2: 720p - PS3
GRAW2: 720p AA 2x - 360
Super Rub a Dub: 1600×1080 - PS3
GTHD: 1440×1080 - PS3
Super Stardust HD: 1280×1080 - PS3
Skate: 1536×864 - PS3
Skate: 1280×720 AA - 360
Bioshock: 1280×720 - 360
Harry Potter: 1280×720 MSAA 2x PS3 ?
Pixel Junk Racers: 1920×1080 PS3
Heavenly Sword: 1280×720 AA 4x PS3
Blast Factor Demo: 1920×1080 PS3
The Darkness: 1024×576 PS3

Now repeat after me: DarkSniper feals stupid and now reaches the class of subretardation. What will DarkSniper say now? how about a RROD comment, that should help with the pain of getting owned that DarkSniper is now feeling. DarkSniper and his shadow DarkSnipa will now hit the disagree button and run into the dark plate where all DarkSniper minions go.

P.S. What the hell is a dark sniper anyway? is a sniper that only snipes when it's "dark" outside?

$niper (missed)

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ASSASSYN 36o - 676 days 20 hours ago

Snipe...just got ASSASSYNATED by Jason 360.

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Fat Bastard - 676 days 20 hours ago

Harry Potter doesn't understand Jason 360. He thinks it is because Jason 360 must be very retarded. Jason 360 posted many games that were on the Playstation 3 and also many games that weren't developed by Bungie. Harry Potter knows that Dark Sniper meant Bungie has never made a game in 720p visuals, and for some reason Jason 360 copies a list full of other games. Harry Potter thinks Jason 360 is very dumb and resorts to defensiveness when he feels threatened. Perhaps it is because Jason 360 is a woman.

Avada Kedavra!

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robbo918 - 676 days 18 hours ago

Dark said he challenged BUNGIE to make a game that was 720p visuals, how many of those games that you listed that were 720 or above were Bungie games? He never said MS or X360.

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thekingofMA - 676 days 17 hours ago

the king of Massachusetts wants to severely injure Harry Potter, perhaps by putting the Imperius curse on him, because he copies other, "smarter," and funnier sony fangirls and the way they speak in first person, which is way overdone (btw i think i just complimented DarkSniper, but to insult this guy is worth it)-also, unless youre name is Harrry Potter, you come off as a huge loser by lying about it-finally( not really, but ill keep your list of faults down to 3), the fact that you put a curse at the bottom of all you comments...i dont even know what to say to that, other than how incredibly gay it is-seriously, go read the books, watch the movies, masturbate to emma watson(or daniel radcliffe, since thats probably more your type...), whatever-just leave youre crappy, stupid flamboyant sony fanboyism somewhere else

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Fat Bastard - 676 days 17 hours ago

Harry Potter thinks the king of ma is an idiot. The king of ma doesn't understand that Harry Potter talks in the THIRD person. The king of ma is just stupid and Harry Potter doesn't need to stoop to his level to talk in the first person. Perhaps the king of ma is jealous of Harry Potter? Harry Potter will never know, but will stay busy with Hermione and Ginny while the king of ma jacks off to his useless 360 junk.

Avada Kedavra!

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Fat Bastard - 676 days 16 hours ago

Harry Potter also wants to ask the king of ma if his real name is thekingofma, because if it isn't, according to the kingofma, then thekingofma is "really gay" as he called Harry Potter. Harry Potter also wants to ask why the kingofma knows the actor/actress' name in the theatrical Harry Potter. Perhaps because thekingofma beats the meat to them? Harry Potter doesn't see what's wrong with talking in the third person, and won't listen to anymore of this "gay" kids annoying whining.

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DarkSniper - 676 days 14 hours ago

Thank you Sony Snipers for reiterating Dark Sniper's initial challenge.

How many games on Jason's list were developed by Bungie again?

$niper

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ps3freak18 - 676 days 2 hours ago

to harry potter for making me laugh multiple times.

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Joey Gladstone - 677 days 1 hour ago

Best comparison I've heard in a while LOL.....not too many people are up to date on their Godzilla(Gojira) characters..
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......"The JOEY has Spoken"

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Gaara_724 - 676 days 23 hours ago

i would compair killzone 2 and rfom2 vs gears of war 2 as in
eazy e and tupac vs 50 cent (if u like rap u will understand but if u dont basicly 50cent is ok when it 1st comes out with a new song listin to it a few times its boaring tupac and eazy e been listning to th for over 4 years still not board of them)

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Hatchetforce - 676 days 23 hours ago

Really I don't listen to rap but I think of it more as Dr Dre and eminem vs vanilla ice.

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Trinity_Marc_Blu - 677 days ago

Gran Turismo's graphics have improved a great deal.
And the game as basically been the same since PS1 because what they have works, and sells like hotcakes. So there isn't much they need to improve on.

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meepmoopmeep - 677 days ago

actaully, Halo 3 took 3-4 years to develop and Insomniac is doing it in a year, give or take a month

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Hatchetforce - 676 days 22 hours ago

I am not dissing Bungie or HALO. Most of us were dissing a Bungie dev in particular that should have kept his mouth shut. If anyone should be questioned in this mess it is him. I like HALO a lot. I have every game made (pc versions too), every book, hats, shirts, bags, and coats. But Bungie themselves failed to capitalize on a phenominal science fiction story.

Anyone that has read the books will agree. Anyone that hasn't read the books and makes comments about the story are some punk fanboys that are acting out of insecurity. PS3 fans have nothing to be insecure about anymore. They didn't from the start.

Bungie does a great many things well in mp like stat tracking, replays, etc. But they also made some monumental errors in mp and walked past some phenominal opportunities such as having the warring factions from the games (Earth vs Covenant) against each other in MP. They could have but they didn't.

They also dropped the ball in a massive way by not having a searcheable browser for Forge games. Duh, what good is a level editor if only friends I pm can find the game.

All in all Timmins should have kept his mouth shut. His remarks look even more suspect seeing as R2 is a PS3 title and Bungie is building a 360 title. It reeks. It reeks of jealousy and adolescent 'my dad can beat up your dad' crap.

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BrianC6234 - 676 days 22 hours ago

That was a dumb post. Why bring up Polyphony Digital in this topic? I don't see anyone from PD going around saying how it will be a challenge to do whatever Forza or another 360 racing game is going to do. This Bungie dissing is about some idiot at Bungie saying 60 player Resistance 2 will be a challenge. I think Insomniac knows that already. But they aren't scared of a challenge. It looks like that guy is just upset Bungie isn't able to hndle so many players.

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Percy - 676 days 21 hours ago

I think that is one of the least true statements i have heard maybe madden but then thats multiplatform so it doesnt fit your needs.

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strongbad1441 - 676 days 17 hours ago

The physics and realism in each subsequent release blow away the predecessor, making them the most realistic racing game you can play. It parallels real-world driving in a way that no other racer can achieve, whether it is on the 360 or the PS3.

So you should definitely check on your facts before you make stupid comments.

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Bathyj - 676 days 15 hours ago

GT physics and graphics have improved every release and every game was the best of its type at that time and was only ever beaten by its own sequel.

Plus would you consider 16 player online a substantial improvement?

Plus them graphics, really are the best in existence.

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Hatchetforce - 676 days 15 hours ago

You haven't got a LaChance in hell of being right bot boy. Think about what you are saying. GT5 is the same as a PS1 title? Did you suffer a severe acccident and decaptitate yourself right before posting?

You seriously need to lay off the bong water if these are the comparisons you are going to make.

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littletad - 677 days 1 hour ago

No, there's two different storylines. One for multiplayer co-op and one for single player.

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wow14 - 676 days 18 hours ago

Speaking about Resistence in the same sentance as Halo is silly.

Halo == the higest rated series of 1st or 3rd person shooter *ever*.

Resistence? Not so much.

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PopEmUp - 676 days 17 hours ago

The biggest overrated games ever then you my friend are absolutely correct on that one

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gamesblow - 677 days ago

I never said it was a 1st party game... I just said it's canceled on the xbox 360. & it is... don't buy into these B.S. hopes and dreams. alan Wake is nowhere to be seen, other than games for windows live. Deal with it.

Edit -When it shows up, give me a message... I'd like to talk to you about it. Until then... I'm right, you're wrong and so is anyone else whowishes to belive in such false hopes.

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