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In-Game XMB: Official Playstation Website Accidentally Confirms?

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"The infamous missing in-game Cross Media Bar. Some want it, some don't. But with the sweet news of a possible positive implementation of universal in-game messaging, who's to be upset about that?"
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Update: The original webpage can now be viewed as a google cache screenshot, in addition to the messaging paragraph appearing on the Official Australian Playstation Website after the link.

Are Sony mixing up their words and giving us false hope, or is this a positive reveal just before GDC '08?
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Published: 674 days 7 hours ago | Rumors | PlayStation 3
 
 

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Relcom - 674 days 7 hours ago
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1 - This better not be BS
I'm tired of having my heart toyed with ;)

If true, best news since Resistance 2
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sonarus - 674 days 7 hours ago
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well lets hope. Voice chat especially cus sumtimes when i'm playing warhawk i only wanna talk to my friends lol. Regardless of what they add its very welcome. Been a while since ps3 had an update anyway. So if there is in game xmb with actual custom soundtracks...1up and the likes of them will stop using it in their reviews against ps3 so now all that is left is rumble
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Relcom - 674 days 7 hours ago
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1.2 - Believe you, me
I'm hoping. They definately need a mute feature too.
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iAmPS3 - 674 days 6 hours ago
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1.3 - I will explain how it works. Yes it's done, Yes I helped development.
Ok, here it goes, straight from Sony HQ:

In game XMB was created in a way that will not use lots of memory or important system resources of your PS3.

The interface will be mainly stored in your hard drive like options/changes/design/coding, occupying close to 13 MB of space for the code/structure/design. When accessed, the dedicated XMB SPU will encode/decode the interface code on the fly changing it's size to 120 kb when loaded on system main memory.

The in game XMB will not consume important system resources and will leave the system intact in terms of performance. The only SPU used is the dedicated XMB SPU that will do all the encoding/decoding and that SPU is not available for games anyway, and 120 kb of memory? that's is a acceptable compromise for such expected feature.

Enjoy the Power of PS3.

May Sony bless you all.
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Kleptic - 674 days 6 hours ago
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IamPS3...while you sound no better than some other extremists...I truely hope you are not lying...

While I did hear rumors that OS optimization for the xmb was underway, of which using 'slow ram' was the key to a very small main ram footprint...the current OS has not been confirmed to be any less than 50mb currently...so what exactly is all that doing?...that is still 18mb more than the 360's OS...

if what you said is true...that is fantastic...as soon as the PSN gets this feature...it will be next to perfect...
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Marceles - 674 days 6 hours ago
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IamPS3 if you're wrong, you know you're gonna have a million ignores right?
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iAmPS3 - 674 days 5 hours ago
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The development team worked with 3 main projects for in game XMB and all of them have little to none impact on the PS3. The most likely to be released is the one I described. The actual sizes may vary, specially the uncompressed size because they are still working on a pre release build. But no matter which one is released, it will work flawlessly, that, I can assure.

The goal on the dev team was to add all functionalities and not cripple the system in any ways, optimization on encoding and processing was only possible in such magnitude because CELL is insane for that, with the right algorithms you can do anything, I mean anything.

We could create "MP3" files as small as 200kB/128kbps
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scottie2521 - 674 days 5 hours ago
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1.7 - IamPS3 you better not be lying
or you'll definately be getting alot of ignores

if you're right you're my new best friend ;)
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pwnsause - 674 days 5 hours ago
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IamPS3, you better be right, if you were part of that dev team, can you tell us the different features you can access on it? like custom music voice chat, etc.?? if you are right, Im gonna have to virtually kiss your feet in Home then.
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sonarus - 674 days 4 hours ago
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i dnt believe dis iamps3 guy cus of his name. He's practically begging for attention. What i would like to knw though is, is this in game xmb or jst messaging feature. in other words no custom sound tracks.
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Kleptic - 674 days 1 hour ago
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well he seems to know more about this stuff than the average 'name-dropping' fanboy...

and I did read on the playstation forums about the main goal for OS optimization was utilizing that single dedicated SPU for most in-game features to a much higher degree, by way of HDD caching... (instead of just taking up a significant amount of system RAM to run those features, and still using that SPU, just not to its full potential)...

everything he said sounds legit...and if they are attemtping to get these features running flawlessly, yet with next to zero OS strain during gameplay...that would explain why the feature has taken so much time and development to complete...

but who knows...this is N4G...take every comment with a truck load of salt...
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AceLuby - 673 days 15 hours ago
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1.11 - Doesn't seem too far away...
I DL'd a preview last night of RE5 and during it I could hit my PS button for 'in movie' XMB. Seems that the basic architecture is there and they would be in the optimizing stage so that it doesn't interfere w/ resources dedicated to the game you are playing.
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iAmPS3 - 673 days 8 hours ago
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I know it's a lot of question about the new system, and I am not part of the official team, I was just a support programmer who contributed and helped during the development process. We had to really think outside the box on this one, but I am proud of what we achieved.

I just want you all to know that some people MAY be disappointed with the new feature at a first glance, cause some expectations will not be met, absolutely nothing major in my opinion, but we can't deny XBL is sort of a benchmark for some people. As a huge Sony Fanboy that I am I know for sure the new feature is awesome and will make your PS3 life a lot easier and more fun.

90% chance they go over it on GDC, that's what I was told.

UPDATE: I am a crazy Fanboy, yes I am, I've seen tech demos that the team came up with, that honestly are jaw-dropping-ass-whopping incredible, from my point of view PS3 is a hell of a machine and game devs can (if they want and know how) creat just the amazing.

And By the way, just wait until you see FFXIII running.
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TheHater - 674 days 7 hours ago
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In game XMB would be amazing. that the best thing I like about Xbox live. It make your gaming life so much easier.
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LightningPS3 - 674 days 7 hours ago
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3 - Since, it's only a matter of time
Why not hurry the F up? People want this obviously.
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pwnsause - 674 days 7 hours ago
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its obviously comming with PS home. In-Game XMB is needed to do things like checking out trophies, meet with your freinds, listen to custom music, etc. GDC is right around the corner. When Home and in-game xmb hits, everything that XBL had as an advantage over the PS3 will dissolve, with the possibly of the PSN jumping over XBL. that all depends if in-game xmb and home releases this year, the replacement of the PS store. sooner or later sony is going to have to replace the store since they have big plans for it such as a possibility of a movie rental service in the store, More PSN games and of course PS1 classics, and possibly and hopefully PS2 classics with the inclusion of %100 software backwards compatibility, something that sony should of implemented in the first place instead of Hardware BC to save for costs.
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rexor0717 - 674 days 7 hours ago
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4.1 - I agree but...
How could home and in-game xmb not be this year? Especially in-game xbm. Its a feature, not something as complicated as home.
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pwnsause - 674 days 6 hours ago
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well one of the problems is possibly how to emulate it like xbl, like when a friend is playing a game and you playing a different game and is inviting you to play the game he is playing online. on xbl, when you accept his invitation, XBL searches for the game that that you asked to play online, and XBL tells you as well to insert the game. thats 1 issue, the other 2 issues is custom music and ram issues. they dont want the system to eat up ram for this feature, correct? that will just make a developers day turn into a nightmare, so they are possibly trying to fix that as well.
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Daver - 674 days 7 hours ago
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Sony already confirmed this... its only a matter of time
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THC CELL - 674 days 7 hours ago
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feb 18th cant wait
i hope there is a Home release date and this new upgrade
woop woop
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Rice - 674 days 7 hours ago
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dont let me down... i need in game xmb...
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hunter21 - 674 days 7 hours ago
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ps3 is just starting.... expect for more features that ps3 will offer and will blow your mind <<< aight thats to much, anyways good finding hope it will be soon
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deep - 674 days 7 hours ago
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la la la la
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DrPirate - 674 days 6 hours ago
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"the option of choice? I choose not to listen to you. Now let me put on some of my music so i can't hear "la la la la la"."

lmao Deep.

And I agree with your point. Some games should disable custom soundracks if it becomes available.
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deep - 673 days 21 hours ago
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Haha! Stop spying on me :P You rock at Devil May Cry 4!!! Plus you used to rock at PixelJunk Monsters, but I beat all of yours ;)
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KnightwinG - 674 days 7 hours ago
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10 - Feb 18
wat happens on feb 18th?
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deep - 674 days 7 hours ago
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TheHater - 674 days 7 hours ago
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what DEEP said. Oh and maybe a new Killzone 2 Trailer, and a Resistance 2 trailer.
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Kleptic - 674 days 5 hours ago
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I am lost on what GDC is exactly...isn't it lots of boring seminars for developers that want to learn how to better utilize hardware and stuff...at least that is what it was last year, with lots of media block outs so that things don't get 'announced' before they are ready...

at least that is how it was with Killzone 2 last year...SCE showed a lot of different clips to show how to use the EDGE tool kit, partly worked on by GG...with some incredibly awesome sounding effects...such as bullet holes that you or an enemy made having dynamic light from an outside source shining through...yet there was a no camera rule, despite allowing people from the press view the seminar...

in fact I don't remember one announcement from last years GDC that had any significance to the actual gamers...but I didn't follow it that closely...

is there really a the possibility of some new trailers and announcments shown next week?...that would be great, I just thought that GDC was a totally different 'show'...
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deep - 673 days 21 hours ago
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Some boring seminars. Some not...eg. showing off Final Fantasy Xiii engine, star wars, far cry 2, mercs 2, Home etc etc. Plus you'll have Microsofts conference, a Playstaiton lounge, every dev will have it's own space where they can talk to you and show off their games/tech. Plus they'll be lots of partys! Weeee
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Kareem - 674 days 7 hours ago
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Just release the feature and stop with the silly teasing.
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Relcom - 674 days 7 hours ago
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11.1 - Yep
^^^
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hotshot127 - 674 days 7 hours ago
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12 - please people. are you guys that gullable.
lets not believe some foolish rumour. personally, im not expecting it until home comes out which wont be out until around aprail or may.

because the OPEN beta hasnt even started yet until that happens, i dont see it coming out this march.

so ingame xmb and home at the end of aprail or beggining of may.

if sony wants those gta sales, they should get it AROUND APRAIL
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sonarus - 674 days 6 hours ago
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haha everytime in game xmb rumors arise there is always someone like you that says they arent expecting it and its only rumors but u knw on the day its supposed to be out they will be hitting that ps3 update button lol
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DrPirate - 674 days 6 hours ago
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This time, it's true :)

The PSEdge update on the PS3 devkits :)

It's going to be a happy time :D
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hotshot127 - 674 days 7 hours ago
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13 - dmc4 allows IN GAME MESSAGING?????
if true, this i did not know
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deep - 674 days 7 hours ago
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No...ingame ALERTS (of your friends progress and achievments)
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Bubble Buddy - 674 days 7 hours ago
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woah. =O
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davez82 - 674 days 7 hours ago
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in game messaging ftw. Finally I can play rockband online and suggest songs.
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Where's my music? I want to play Nine Inch Nails while playing GTAIV Sony. A tiskit a taskit.
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gambare - 674 days 7 hours ago
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17 - Make it happen
I'll be your valentine, white day etc. PSN <3
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KnightwinG - 674 days 6 hours ago
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crazy man ^
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TwissT - 674 days 6 hours ago
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After getting constant messages while I am playing a game, it really annoys me that I have to quit the game to check it the message out. Sony release IN GAME XMB PLEASE!!
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Ri0tSquad - 674 days 6 hours ago
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19 - Good news.
Hopefully it'll come with custom soundtracks. Music in Burnout is terrible.
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skynidas - 674 days 6 hours ago
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IN GAME XMB!!!
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I'm probably the only who thinks in game XMB isn't going to happen because they pulled that messaging info off of the Playstation US web-site.
I hope I'm wrong though
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Kleptic - 674 days ago
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well they did confirm it for 2008...so it is coming at some point this year...

but yeah...some are hoping for an announcement at GDC...that would be awesome, but still wouldn't mean its coming soon...if there really is a bigger Home beta, available to everyone, then maybe we could see it in some form in the next few months...
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Mikelarry - 674 days 6 hours ago
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22 - this is
one feature i really want. my god i was so outraged today when i was trying to set up a game with my friends and anytime i wanted to tell them wat room i was in i had to quit the game start a private chat. i hope this is true because this is one feature that is hindering my fun with my online friends.
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23 - GDC hopefully.
I wonder when they will announce next update.
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It's coming, my guess it'll be inmplemented when Home has it's public release. I think we may hear something about it with Home At GDC, especially considering Home is now being talked about as meeting up with friends to get into game, you would still want to communicate with those friends during the game as well.
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