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Guerrilla Speaks: Killzone 2 Should Meet Target Movie

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"The Killzone forums have awakened and one of Guerrilla Game's developers answers questions where he can. Killzone 2 should get very close to their target movie and in some ways will exceed it."
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Playstation.com Forum Post - boardsus.playstation.com | By: StalkingSilence
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Published: 695 days 23 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3
 
 

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TheExecutive - 695 days 23 hours ago
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we really need more info on this game. Its time to come out and tell us what they have and where they are going. KZ2 has been in the shadows long enough, heres to hoping GDC proves me right.
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DEADEND - 695 days 23 hours ago
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Hey your right it is time for them to come up and give us some info about Killzone 2, but I have the feeling they won't show much at GDC. It more likely they will show the full game and a ton of details we've been waiting for at E3.
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f7ss1 - 695 days 22 hours ago
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who is surfur girl and how would she know anything? anyways, by the sounds of it this game should be lookin pretty sharp, hope it plays as well too
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fenderputty - 695 days 22 hours ago
1.3 - I totally agree
They showed us stuff last year and have killed that footage. Don't get me wrong ... it's awesome stuff. I just want to see something, anything, even a small texture on a wall. lol I've been waiting so long for this game. I don't care if comes out later then thought. Just take your time ... make it look and play great and toss me a bone. Show me what I've been waiting for.
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marinelife9 - 695 days 21 hours ago
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Wasn't the stuff Guerrilla showed before just pre-alpha builds?
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mighty_douche - 695 days 22 hours ago
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In the words of Johnny 5...

"need more input...." "need more input..."

edit... lol a disagree for saying i want more information?? dress up the site as much as you want, doesnt get rid of the idiots i guess....
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fenderputty - 695 days 22 hours ago
2.1 - You should be honored lol
You have to internet ninja trolls tailing you. ;)
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MetalProxy - 695 days 21 hours ago
2.2 - LOL
Johny 5 !! priceless
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Kleptic - 695 days 19 hours ago
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haha agreed...I defaulted open zone to 'legally' argue with people...and none of the regular retards did the same thing apparently...now the standard trolls simply throw in a friendly stab instead of just being blatantly wrong with nothing else to offer...
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achira - 695 days 22 hours ago
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nice to know! cant wait for that game. one of my most anticipated games!
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Meus Renaissance - 695 days 22 hours ago
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He avoided the question of GDC, dammit. He also ignored the guy complaining why we don't get hardly any information.
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Luca Blight - 695 days 22 hours ago
5 - FPSotY?
2008's CoD4 (or Bioshock) anyone?
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sak500 - 695 days 19 hours ago
5.1 - No
That would be expecting too much from a game with a prequel having 7 avg rating.
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fenderputty - 695 days 17 hours ago
5.2 - @5.1
because Bioshock's predesessor was rated high? There's been plenty of games that have gotten better as the series moved. Others have gotten worse. I fail to see your point. At least they delivered on the PSP game. Quit being such a pesimist and go post in the other forum if you're going to spoout off crap like that.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 695 days 1 hour ago
5.3 - guys
Honestly, I think Resistance 2 will get shooter of the year...

MGS4, GTAIV, and Spore will be the big three GOTY contendors...
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Luca Blight - 695 days 22 hours ago
6.1 - to some extent...
you can see how the game controls by looking at the gameplay videos. Looks pretty solid to me so far with lots of fluid animation and idle/active situational movements. Game seems to respond quickly. Scroll speed seems relatively tight (about the same as CoD4). Of course we haven't seen more complex gameplay mechanics yet, but judging from early videos, I'm willing to give it a pass if it Guerilla doesn't show more at GDC. Of course, I would love to see more, but it's not 100% necessary IMO.
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Adamalicious - 695 days 22 hours ago
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It takes an awful lot of effort to get a demo or even a demonstration ready build to show off at something like GDC and wouldn't find it so strange if Guerilla wanted to keep everybody working on the game so they can hit their deadlines and ship whenever it is they are intending to.
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Kleptic - 695 days 19 hours ago
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while the PR surrounding KZ2 has been an utter nightmare..I don't think the lack of stuff being shown is any sign of the condition of the game...

what they need to stop is falling back into old ditches...don't release pictures, then admit to them being touched up...don't touch them up in the first place...or don't release them...where anyone thought tactics like that would get positive press is beyond me...

stop showing or saying anything to do with targets...just show the game...or don't...the hype will be so immense leading up to release it won't really matter...they didn't show a ton of Halo 3 before release...in fact wasn't the first official gameplay footage released just a month or so before the beta?...and the hype for that was second to none, although for the most part...the hype was far greater than the final experience...

they have shown enough to know that it will be something special...at least on a technical level...but they haven't made any promises except for how it compares to the target stuff...just start releasing little confirmed bits about gameplay, bosses, multiplayer aspects, etc. here and there...and then no one will be left underwhelmed...

but again...they release another batch of pictures with "touch ups" to show what they are trying to have for release...and that is all that will ever loom around the game...but GDC should have some good stuff about it...SCE knows they have 2 of their own games competing one another...with no outside games even close in comparison so far...and being that we already have more confirmed information about Res 2 than KZ2, they will start showing enough of both to shut us up pretty soon i would imagine...
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marcellizot - 695 days 22 hours ago
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My prediction is a conspicuous absence for Killzone 2 at GDC with the gap being plugged by resistance 2 which for my money looks like it will be the a far better game (though probably a bit less pretty to look at).

I can't help but feel that Killzone 2 will be motorstorm all over again. I was playing said game last night and though it is definitely a great looking title, probably one of the best looking racers ever made, it is still a far cry from the 'target footage' that was shown in the beginning.

I think Killzone 2 will follow a similar pattern. If you ask me the most impressive looking fps game on the way is Project Offset, that is a game I want more info on.
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solidt12 - 695 days 22 hours ago
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Im banking that Resistance and Killzone 2 will equally impress. Either way both are must have shooters for 08.
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hazeblaze - 695 days 22 hours ago
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I'm sure that the visuals are going to be impressive as hell!!! Probably the best looking on a console when it comes out... However, I am concerned about the gameplay elements. I have no idea where Surfer Girl gets her info, but 1UP made similar claims that the gameplay so far is mediocre and that the quality of the game may be lacking if it releases this year. That is VERY troubling to hear... but I'm still willing to give it a chance.
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Lord Cheese - 695 days 22 hours ago
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to be honest i'd level the same criticism at the original. It did look good (especially for a ps2 game), but it just didnt cut it gameplay-wise.

I have no basis to suggest the same will apply to the sequel, but i think any hopes for this game need to be tempered with a touch of realism - guerilla have made 2 games in the series so far, and liberation wasnt even an fps - we can only hope they learnt from their mistakes in the first title, and havent repeated them.
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Kleptic - 695 days 19 hours ago
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the main thing with Motorstorm lacking was with shipped content...while its since become a very robust game, it also is roughly $85 if you bought all that extra stuff at its respective releases...

but as far as the target render...I think they got really close overall...the target render was far crazier than anything in KZ2's now infamous mess...but it was mostly with camera angles...that shaky cam stuff made the game look so unbelievably intense compared to the standard racer angles of the actual game...it made it not look as crazy overall...but the layer manipulation in Motorstorm is still the best around...the 8 cars exploding into little pieces as you drive through the wreckage...the flopping muddy roosters are all intact (albeit with not even a hint of the 1/2 mile long dust tails in the target render)...and all the little track details; definitely allow it to hold its own...

I think if motorstorm actually had a GT like replay system...with all the goofy camera work available...it would make the game look much closer to the actual target render than a lot of people think...
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xg-ei8ht - 695 days 14 hours ago
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Just wait till you see Motorstorm 2:)

Hehe

Oops i don't know anything honest!!!

ID TECH 5 eat Your heart out
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Sevir04 - 695 days 13 hours ago
7.6 - well Hellblaze thats coming from 1up.
and just like any other i've heard what gamespot, IGN and Gameinformer have said and what they said greatly convinced me that the game has made very big improvements over the PS2, alot of the things were address, game informer writes that the Ai was Smart and intellengent and very agressive, especially if you slip up as they were quick to flank and exploit your position if you were unable to surpress them with fire, as amatter of fact they said that if you ran out of ammo it was a done deal. and that was the september issue of game informer last year which would mean they played the build that was just after E3 last year. IGN has even gone on to say that the enemies moved and reacted to fire realisticly, moving for cover and flanking when the opportunity was deemed relevant without consequences

after all we all know how much 1up is in love with MS and thats cool but i think there is some bias, especially when you factor in how much the first game fair in reviews, great on paper and hype but a farcry from it. it was a good game but lacked because of PS2's limitations.

with all thats going into the game, and everything everyone that helping... check ther site

all the american studios in the sony family are helping both first and second party because they all know the importance of the game is to sony. Insomniac and ND, sucker punch, Slant six, incog and Zipper are all in some way or form backing ths huge tit;le, for Sony to pour more money just states that they are paying to ensure that the best in Sony's arsenal of devs are giving this game the best. with taht i rest completely sure that this title when ever it comes out will be amazing

and if anything i think this game will get it's grand unveiling at gamers day 08 and at E3, if it does show up at GDC it will prolly be a new Trailer and thats it. and probably a lecture on the engine. i think R2 and LBP and perhaps 8 days will be the game that shows out this GDC and Home as well.
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Silellak - 695 days 22 hours ago
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There's really no reason to trust a developer one way or the other on this.

The only thing that will speak to the quality of Killzone 2, both graphics-wise and gameplay-wise, is the actual release of the game.

Of course a developer is going to claim they will match their target video. They'll claim that up to, during, and even after the initial release. Even if the game looks nothing like it.

I'm not bad-mouthing game developers, in fact, I have a large amount of respect for them. But really, do you expect one of them to say "We won't be meeting our target video, sorry. Please buy our game still my family needs food."?
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TheHater - 695 days 22 hours ago
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It doesn't matter how good the game look. Which it already look really good, and I am getting it. The gameplay, and online mode is what matter. I would say story, but it a FPS.
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LeonSKennedy4Life - 695 days 1 hour ago
9.1 - dude.
Are you a caveman or what?

You're butchering the English language...and we hates that!
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Bits-N-Kibbles - 695 days 22 hours ago
10 - When is E3?
I expect a HUGE presentation there, and for it to draw the most attention and provoke the most excitement...

an open beta before game release?... i am not getting my hopes up
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solidt12 - 695 days 22 hours ago
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Hopefully it will be at GDC. I can't wait to see more of this game.
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TheHater - 695 days 22 hours ago
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I think they will show a new trailer at GDC. I don't think they have a stage Demo like when the first showed Killzone 2. But I think they will show how much the game have improve over the past 7 months for so. Maybe they might even announce a release date, and some information about the online play.
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KILLERAPP - 695 days 22 hours ago
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Well the game looks good but I want to play it I hope they release a demo for it so we can be the judge of the game that way if it's good there will be more hype.
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KILLERAPP - 695 days 22 hours ago
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Well the game looks good but I want to play it I hope they realize a demo for it so we can be the judge of the game that way if it's good there will be more hype.
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vloeistof - 695 days 22 hours ago
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lol this game is being mad 1/2 hours frome my home and in dont know nothing about it
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LJWooly - 695 days 22 hours ago
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Who here thinks that Surfer Girl has something to do with viral marketing? Seriously, think about it. She posts 'rumours' that hype up the games she mentions; do you think that it's really that unlikely that a company might pay for her services in order to hype up a game they'll be releasing soon?

Just a speculation.
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SIX - 695 days 22 hours ago
15.1 - I was thinking the same thing
On the opposite end she could be used to un hype games as well which have been over hyped. We all know that Killzone could never live up to expectations, but if expectations are lower then this game might have a chance. Conspiracy theories aside. I think that this game will look mighty fine when it's released.
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LJWooly - 695 days 21 hours ago
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Yeah, it would be the perfect viral marketing plan!

Like how Microsoft used to hire Zhuk to spread the word (hence his talking about the 360 as if it were royalty), until he stopped posting on N4G. Ah, those were good times...
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ceedubya9 - 695 days 22 hours ago
16 - I don't think anyone cares about the graphics anymore
We all know that the game will be top of the line as far as visuals go. I think that we all just want to get a good idea about the gameplay now. There are plenty of point-and-shoot games out there right now. What will Killzone offer that sets it apart this time around? Gamers are dying to know Guerrilla!
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Adamalicious - 695 days 22 hours ago
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Good point. The pre alpha stuff we've seen looks amazing so the finished product is certainly going to look great - so it's all down to gameplay and, for me, hopefully a decent story,
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timmyp53 - 695 days 22 hours ago
17 - It will look awesome
no doubt.
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lesferdinand - 695 days 22 hours ago
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I'm not so much interested in the pixel count as I am in the art direction TBH. I really liked the character design of the first one. The gameplay was good as well. Loved the slower pace and the 'realistic' weaponry and I had no problems with the enemy AI. They rarely did something stupid, made good use of cover and alternate weapons and were often quite hard to kill without taking too much damage in the later levels. Going in gung-ho was no option, while it often is on for instance Resistance.
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DEADEND - 695 days 22 hours ago
19 - To marcellizot
I just went to ign.com and Project Offset is stated as a multi-platform game for PC,360 and PS3. If it is a 360 exclusive can you give me a link that sates that please, I really want to know who is publishing this game and for what system it is coming out for. Not that I'm saying you said it was 360 or anything I'm just interested about this game and I want to know more about this game. Or can anyone else let me know please I will give bubbles for those who can give me some info about this game.
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Adamalicious - 695 days 22 hours ago
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Originally it was developed just for the PC, but the developer talked about bringing it to consoles. It's been confirmed that they are working on a version for the 360, but it hasn't been confirmed that they are working on it for PS3 - so far it doesn't look like they are. Some people say "exclusive" refers only to console exclusivity - i.e. "Bioshock is a 360 exclusive" - I don't know that that makes a whole lot of sense, but there you go.
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SoulReaper - 695 days 22 hours ago
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It will the best PS3 game ever!! If you guys disagree just look at this video and tell me you can honestly say its bad..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...
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streeks1984 - 695 days 22 hours ago
21 - Can't wait
I having waiting sooo long for this game and I believe that the longer we wait the more and more sexy and sweet it will be so I cant wait until september but please nooooo longer than that until then Haze will satisfy my thirst for a first person along with COD4 and Rainbow six vegas 2.
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mighty_douche - 695 days 22 hours ago
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GDC... release beta....

mighty_douche... dies from excitment....
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fenderputty - 695 days 22 hours ago
23 - Anyone else think
they're coming out and saying this because those RFOM2 screens? I think KZ is going to look better but, they did steal a little thunder from the gorilla guys.
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fenderputty - 695 days 17 hours ago
23.1 - Either that or that
surfer girl rumor.
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