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GameTrailers Editor-in-Chief Laughs Off Reaction

Shane Shatterfield, Editor-in-Chief, answered the calls for an official response from angry members to the crisis looming over GameTrailers' reputation. Finding the issue "hilarious", the bemused Editor reiterated that there was no bias involved (naturally) and showed signs of frustration with the vocal PlayStation community, saying they "have their controllers in a bunch.

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Published: 711 days 12 hours ago | Article | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | Gaming | Industry News

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Meus Renaissance - 711 days 12 hours ago

1 - Message Sent to Shane A Few Moments Ago

Hello there,

I don't want to waste your time and I hope by the end of this message you won't feel disappointed. I'm aware that you most probably have been contacted several times by now over this issue about the video comparisons but I just wanted to state my viewpoint on this and I'd love to hear back from you on it.

I agree wholeheartedly with the logical approach GameTrailers take in capturing the video of the consoles in that they use the same method for both. I understand the connotations of choosing to do it that, however, when such a method compromises the look of the game - then does it not defeat the purpose of a comparison, which is to see multiple subjects at their full capability and judge them upon that?

I disagree with your comment that "most PS3 owners wouldnt know about this". Although most likely quite alot would not have been aware of the RGB option, you must realise most PS3 owners on the general spectrum wouldn't be watching video comparisons anyway. Those who do are mainly hardcore fans who want bragging rights or just to decide which version of a game to get; so those who are complaining about this are most likely aware of the option otherwise you would not have gotten such a massive reaction to it. And those who did not, now know the difference that this RGB option brings which leads me to my final point...

There has been a lack of faith with journalism credibility in recent times in this industry, and PS3 owners have usually been the ones most vocal about that and unfortunately GameTrailers is now seen by many as a questionable source because of this misunderstanding. My personal opinion is that your explanation seems more related to a comparison of the consoles than the actual games as they do them injustice *you cant be comparing games in all honesty if you readily accept that the results may not be representative of the actual game*. RGB doesn't just add colour, it improves the contrast and sharpness which helps show the textures.

If you feel that there is still a demand for this videos, even though they won't be accepted by many now, I'd like to suggest that there be disclaimer at the start of the video simply stating the settings on the consoles used. Many times I have watched videos/comparisons of the games I own and I'm shocked to see them looking so "washed out" and poor; and I feel that any comparison made in the future will be either dismissed, frowned upon, or hotly disputed.

You have to do something about this or you lose an entire fanbase from your website, who'd be more than happy to spread bad-word of mouth across the gaming community.

I enjoy GameTrailers for all the media it provides and I sincerely hope we never see the day that this is blown out of proportion and you guys becoming a hate figure. As I said before, in our times, people are sensitive to what they read and hear from game journalists.

Thank you,
Meus

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Lucreto - 711 days 12 hours ago

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I fully agree with everything you just said. I hope they will have the disclaimer from now on.

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Hapimeses - 711 days 11 hours ago

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Good job!

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TheTwelve - 711 days 11 hours ago

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Word, Meus. Bring the Ruckus.

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Marceles - 711 days 11 hours ago

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"Although most likely quite alot would not have been aware of the RGB option, you must realise most PS3 owners on the general spectrum wouldn't be watching video comparisons anyway. Those who do are mainly hardcore fans who want bragging rights or just to decide which version of a game to get; so those who are complaining about this are most likely aware of the option otherwise you would not have gotten such a massive reaction to it."

Such a good sentence man...trying to make comparisons for the general PS3 owner when the general non-hardcore owner don't even look at the comparisons. I hope it really got through to him how much it didn't make sense from that standpoint.

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toughNAME - 711 days 11 hours ago

1.5 - while I don't agree with you...

that was really well written good job

I'd give you a bubble but...come on...seriously...10?

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Meus Renaissance - 711 days 11 hours ago

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Wow I just realised I have 10 Bubbles. I always have the limit was 9. Thanks for the support everyone!

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jcgamer - 711 days 11 hours ago

1.7 - bubbles....up? Meus....lol

wow, great post, and well written...I think this is the first time I've seen 10 bubbles!....GOOD LAWD...how about 11?! You goin' for the N4G world record?...LOL...

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Pain - 711 days 10 hours ago

1.8 - good post. To Bad he wont Care ; ;

But i hope he dose and the fix therr screwup.

Cuz By NO means am i a dumb Tech whore, rbg+super white where set on my PS3 hours
afters i opened my box.

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Marceles - 711 days 10 hours ago

1.9 - @ Meus

lol yeah I noticed that too. I counted yours and mine about 10 times to make sure I wasn't going crazy haha...good job

*remembers Meus never playing a Final Fantasy, looks at Auron avatar, takes away bubble* just kidding :)

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bigshynepo - 711 days 10 hours ago

1.10 - Thanks Meus!

Your letter was so much more professional than the responses received from Gametrailers.com already. I think this "Shane" goof needs to stop being so clearly bias towards the Playstation 3.

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LJWooly - 711 days 9 hours ago

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Meus, are you aware that there is a guy impersonating you, called Meus Resistance, who is going around acting like a 360 fanboy in order to disgrace your good name? There seems to be a lot of impersonations lately...

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jcgamer - 711 days 9 hours ago

1.12 - @LJWooly

I agree, there are a lot of impersonators lately...I can easily spot those tards by their bubble counts...the REAL Meus, Meus Renaissance, has 10 BUBBLES...so NO ONE won't have any problems telling the difference between "the good sir" and "the bad seed"...lol...I'll make SURE "Meus Resistance" (the bad seed...lol) only has ONE bubble so he's REAL easy to spot...or not (user hidden with only one bubble)...lol

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VirusE - 711 days 8 hours ago

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Meus Renaissance I am extremely impressed. That was very well written and you brought up a lot of good points in a very constructive fashion.

I take it you never heard back?

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jorellpogi - 711 days 4 hours ago

1.14 - @Meus Renaissance

A very intelligent letter. Good job man.

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Hapimeses - 711 days 11 hours ago

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Well, I found that reply less than satisfactory, and said so at the site:

http://forums.gametrailers....
http://forums.gametrailers....

Really, if they aren't taking advantage of the very features the PS3 was built to provide, what is the point?

Oh, and there are two links because the GT forum has a 10,000 character limit, so I had to split my reply in two to get the whole thing posted.

I was in a verbose mood.

:)

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TheTwelve - 711 days 11 hours ago

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Wow, Hapimeses, another well written letter. You and Meus are tempting me to join that site just so I can join in the fun.

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Hapimeses - 711 days 11 hours ago

2.2 - @ TheTwelve:

Come and join in -- you are more than welcome. The more voices explaining to GT in a reasoned and cogent fashion why they have misled people, the better; in my view, at least.

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TheTwelve - 711 days 11 hours ago

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Alright, well since I've been invited to do so, I'll do it. Give me some seconds and I'll post here what I message to him...

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TheTwelve - 711 days 10 hours ago

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Alright. Because Hapimeses said so, I wrote this to him in a message:

Dear GTShane,
Though I was never a member of Gametrailers until now, I have seen hundreds of your videos online. Can't help it. You guys are everywhere.

But I want to make a comment on the tone of your "GT Comparison Videos Explained" post. As a PS3 owner, I found your words to be very insulting. So much so, that you seem to be taking the same abrasive siding as the fanboys that you're speaking against.

And come, you do comparison videos for the sake of the fanboys. Your site gets hits based on the controversy between the two sides, and yet here you speak as if you are somehow above it.

If indeed you do these comparison videos simply for the sake of building up consumer knowledge, then you should also make sure to do your best to present the best that both systems have to offer. This is just basic professionalism.

Drama having to do with scandals with websites recently are just showing one thing: although the game industry is making as much money as the movie industry, the former is no where near the latter in terms of professionalism. We seem to still be a bunch of guys who don't have a life and don't care, playing games in the basement and ignoring standards of society. Your insulting post, GTshane, only supports this notion.

In the name of American journalism, which was based on the concept of being as unbiased as possible, I really hope that you work this out. I've definitely benefited from Gametrailers.com throughout the years but unless you at least give a disclaimer with your videos, I won't be able to take this site seriously anymore.

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LJWooly - 711 days 9 hours ago

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Great job, The Twelve.

If more people write letters as well thought-out as Meus, Happimeses, and The Twelve, then this will surely make an impact.

Come on, these guys, while incredibly well-informed, can't do this all by themselves!!

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The Wood - 711 days 9 hours ago

2.6 - one day i will write a letter

keep it up guys +bubbles

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liquidsnake - 711 days 8 hours ago

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Very nice letters indeed.

Hapimeses...was it just me or was that GT guy very arrogant. From what I've red of your post, he was constantly twisting and turning all your sentences like he had nothing to say for defense. Haha.

Anyways, nice letters from all of you. I would do the same if my english was better. (Im from Sweden ;) )

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Maddens Raiders - 711 days 11 hours ago

3 - Shane Satterfield laughs it off -

'nuff said.

Shane Satterfield is a tool, pure and simple. Gametrailers has completely lost any credibility it had in my mind.

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PSWe60 - 711 days 11 hours ago

4 - sighs.....

This whole thing is blown out of proportion, but I guess that Sony fans have to vent their pent up anger. We've taken our fair share of crap when the PS3 launched.

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Maddens Raiders - 711 days 11 hours ago

5.1 - LOL -

*reported*

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mullet - 711 days 11 hours ago

5.2 - poos3

Do you have a life? Did you drop out of high school and live with your mom? Go out and get laid. Find something better to do with your time instead of bashing everything PS3 related. What do you gain? Lol.

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tatotiburon - 711 days 11 hours ago

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*sighs...more excuses for sonyretars

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LJWooly - 711 days 9 hours ago

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Without realising, it, you've inadvertently made a brilliantly ironic post, by calling other people 'retards', but spelling the word 'retard' wrong.

Hilarious, my friend, and if you weren't being serious, I would have given you a bubble. Congratulations.

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liquidsnake - 711 days 8 hours ago

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hahahaha. I feel sorry for u man.

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shakka - 711 days 4 hours ago

6.3 - @#6

Says the one who cannot spell the word retard properly.
Now to the ones writings all the letters keep the good work guys the union make us strongers.

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Maddens Raiders - 711 days 11 hours ago

7 - Why do the usual Bot gadflys flock to this news like fresh -

horse droppings? On top of that, their comments are made with horrible grammar or spelling mistakes. What is a retars? ^^^^

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niall77 - 711 days 11 hours ago

8 - if they are not going to use each system to the best it can then what the point of the comparsins?

really?

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Orange Juice - 711 days 11 hours ago

9 - Wow, nice attitude toward the people with a decent argument

This is his closing comment, and it should give you a good idea of his professionalism.

"After reading so much erroneous garbage posted all over the internet we figured it was time to set the record straight before things got out of hand."

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Hapimeses - 711 days 11 hours ago

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Yeah, I'll admit I was pretty surprised at his unprofessional manner. Nevertheless, no need for us to devolve to that level -- I tried to be as reasoned as possible when replying to his post.

:)

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toughNAME - 711 days 11 hours ago

10 - Agreed

lol

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ThaGeNeCySt - 711 days 11 hours ago

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Let it go...

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kevoncox - 711 days 10 hours ago

12 - The crying never ends......

Bawwwwwwwww Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

Why are you crying over something this small? If GT was the only source for comparisom then this would be an issue. However, we have countless reviews showing the opposite. If you don't want to watch the videos then read the reviews that tells you the same thing. The texture work and FPS on the PS3 is usually worst.

To make matters worst, you first ps3 game designed from the ground up as a ps3 game first ( Burnout Paradise) looks and runs just as good on 360. Logically it would mean that the Ps3 is the one incapable of running games as good as the 360 some times. Infact i don't find it odd that the games used the champion what the 360 can't do are Ps3 exclusives...Where we can never compare them.

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Your analogy is terrible.
You are not squezzing a superior system into the smaller system.
The superiour system should be able to handle everything the lesser system can do. If the xbox 360 is the weaker system, the ps3 shoudl be able to do everything it can do and more. When the game is built from the ps3 down should looks worst on 360. You guys have a warped perception of reality.

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LJWooly - 711 days 9 hours ago

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No, the reason that Burnout Paradise looks and runs exactly the same on the PS3 and the 360 is because developers have only just began learning that it's easier to port from the PS3 to the 360, rather than the other way round.

Multiplatform games are supposed to look and run the same on the different consoles, but because developers have been porting from the 360 to the PS3 for a year now, the PS3 has often ended up with the worst version.

Lame analogy:
Think of it as trying to fit a shoe on two different sized feet. It's much easier to shrink the bigger shoe to fit the smaller foot, than it is to make the smaller shoe grow to fit the bigger foot. (The bigger foot being the PS3, the smaller being the 360.)

Hope I helped!!

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Afterburn - 711 days 7 hours ago

12.2 - omg..

it's worse. the word is worse. say it with me... w o r s e

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Silver Bull3t - 711 days 10 hours ago

13 - wtf?

You guys are seriously retarded. Seriously.... Their methodology is sound. You can't tweak one console and claim any comparisons to be even-steven. You fuking droids make me laugh at your console inferiority complex. Seeing as how Sony makes TONS of video consumer electronics it's not like they don't know how to set the factory defaults. Any comparisons aside from the defaults are moot and subjective, hence not worth posting as comparisons.... understand dolts?

Hopefully they stop doing these bullsh1t "VS" comparisons anyway, as it only helps recruit more fanboy dikweeds like the lot who post on here on N4G. Go play a game and stop counting pixels you homos.
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Gametrailers, stick to TRAILERS and leave the comparisons for the 14yr old pubeless fantards to stroke each other about.

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ThaGeNeCySt - 711 days 10 hours ago

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LMAO

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shysun - 711 days 10 hours ago

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Those settings were added in a PSN update. So it wasn't a default option. It's there now and they should use it.

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LJWooly - 711 days 9 hours ago

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No, if the 360 version is shown at it's full potential, then the PS3 version should be shown at it's full potentail.

Read Meus Rennaissance's, Hapimeses', or The Twelves' well-written letters to Shane, and you'll understand.

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Bombomb - 711 days 10 hours ago

14 - Yeah this sh#t is getting out of hand

and to think this all started with the capcom when DMC went multi.

Sony fanboys have never been the same.

you beg for AAA + (90+ scores
you beg for non-DEFAULT game comparisons.
you beg for devs to stay exclusive
you beg MS to stop paying every game reviewer that's not related to sony.

I'm sure all the review sites and their chief editors probably laugh at all the fanboys with 1 consoles crying over here on a fanboy site.....as if..riiiiiiiiigghhht
The superiority complex have gotten out of hand.. so it continues

Hey I would be laughing too, silly fanboy goons

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tordavis - 711 days 10 hours ago

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Most people who own PS3 systems don't see a need to adjust the RGB. I've been through all the video options on my PS3. I can't see why anyone would adjust the RGB when the games look fine by default. There's no reason to have to adjust the RGB in video captures just to 'even' the ground when comparing to the 360. They captured the video using the default settings of both consoles. That's as equal as you can get.

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BloodySinner - 711 days 9 hours ago

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Finally, someone with a brain.

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rofldings - 711 days 7 hours ago

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You don't 'adjust' RGB settings, you go into videos options and change it from "Limited" to "Full" - I wonder how you deal with power buttons?

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prowiew - 711 days 10 hours ago

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He miss the point that gamers are crybabies.

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