Why EDGE UK gave Heavenly Sword 6/10

EDGE representative gives gamers the full details as to why Heavenly Sword scored 6/10 from them. According to reviewer, "Heavenly Sword is a game that has had to carry the burden of becoming a standard-bearer for Playstation 3, and as its host platform's topsy-turvy ride has continued, its important has increased.

It's not good enough to simply be a good game and a flagship title: with the likes of Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 some time away, it has to be proof of the console's capabilities and, above all else, a system seller....

[ReconHope]

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[fenderputty]

They just admitted that they graded this game harder then a normal PS3 game. Ludicrous. I'm glad it got a good review from gamespot. The game played fun in the demo and, is gorgeous on top of it. I've got mine pre-ordered.

[ParaDise_LosT]

a real tough crowd....that all there is to it..
some of the only game they praise is
Half Life 2
but still...a 6?.. thats absurd....
the graphics deserve a 6 on its own....
but then again look at whan Im saying....graphics...
que sera sera?...

[larry007]

6 on EDGE is like an 8/9 on major websites

Heavenly sword has got 10 from PLAY

9 from GAMEPRO

9.7 from NEXTGENIRELAND

9+ from PSXEXTREME

9 from OPM

9 from PSM3

so i see no reason why people should be distracted by some reviews

[Bathyj]

PS3 is being judged by to high a standard. Because it has all this (as yet untapped) power the bar of expectation is way to high. Its not fair to review a game holding it accountable for PS3's potential.

The game looks, the game sounds good, the game plays good ei the game is good.

Day 1 purchase for me.

[WilliamRLBaker]

Yeah ok bathy its not ok to judge a game on its systems potential? BS!
yeah thats right BS!

When sony sits and promises before launch a super computer, then they promise 120 fps on all games *and yes this is what they promised* when they make out that all games will be 1080p, dual hdmi...ect

When they talk about this massive 4d, potential and this is what you get? then yes its perfectly right to judge all games on that system if they dont match up to promises.

Microsoft, and Ninty didn't promise the crap sony did at launch, and they met expectations.

Ninty promised a cheap fun game system and they delivered, Microsoft promised a fun online game system, and they delievered.

Sony promised a 4d, 120fps 1080p dual hdmi ported ethernet hub, super computer, and has yet to ever deliver, And they've done it in the past, They promised super computer like abbilities real life like human faces with the ps2, said it was 30X more powerful then the dreamcast, and never delivered.

When a company promises the world, and delivers a city...then its perfectly acceptable to judge games upon those undelivered promises.

[Bathyj]

http://au.gamespot.com/news...

Promised 120 fps my arse.
They never promised ALL games at 1080p.

Its like talking to a brick wall with you.

As for the other stuff I'm not going over it point by point, I might as well be talking to a goldfish.

Yeah at one point they wanted 2 HDMI's. I guess they tried to cut costs and decided 2 wasnt neccessary. If it was in you'd be blaming that for having to pay for something you didn't need like BluRay which actually has benefits.

And since when did you believe a word Sony says anyway? Stop acting like you trusted them so much and you're so hurt by their lies. Everyone lies. Its called advertising. Buy some tissues princess and grow the fuk up.

[ktchong]

Why Edge UK gave BioShock 8/10.

[larry007]

It has no MP/online

the graphics too are not good as well

BIOSHOCK is massively overrrated

[Ri0tSquad]

terrible

[Bathyj]

Screw multiplayer. Not every game has to be online. Dont we have enough shooters to deathmatch on.

[s8anicslayer]

didn't they give lair like a 8.0 or something high like that?

[TheExecutive]

It sounds like he reviewed the game on what it is supposed to be for the PS3, not for the game itself, at least thats the way the first part sounds...

He, however, did bring up the fact that he didnt like the distance attacks and thought they were repetitive. It really only adds up to about 30 min to an hr in the game (thats the way I read it). It may be a welcome break in the action. An

[ngg12345]

I wouldn't cry over their reviews. They hand out 6's, and 7's, and 8's to almost every game. They never give 9's or 10's.

[Anything but Cute]

I think most games are average. If a game gets a 7 from me it's very good because most average games would get like 2/10 and 3/10.

5/10 is solid from me, that's what I gave The Darkness
5/10 is what I gave Ninja Gaiden Sigma
5/10 is God of War

10/10 is like Final Fantasy X
10/10 is Grand Theft Auto 3
10/10 is Final Fantasy VII
10/10 is Resident Evil 2

Games that really brought it and are still rememberd long after their generation passes.

[Foliage]

"5/10 is God of War"? That one seems a little off. It was one of the few games I couldn't drop once I started playing it.

That's the problem with reviews, everyone is different and have different preferences. I hardly ever agree with movie reviews, why would this be different?

[no_more_heroes]

thats a lie. The game is too short for that to be true. It was good though. Didn't play 2 but it looks like more of the same, which in this case, is a good thing. HS and God of War are my kinds of games.

[Foliage]

I don't quite follow what you mean. Are you saying God of War was too short? I can agree with you there, but after playing Gears of War 2-3 times through I don't think many complained about the length of that game (about 7 hours). God of War was a more lengthy game (about 10 hours). They are very different games, and Gears has multi-player, but that was just an example of two highly successful games.

I know most players can sit and play a game for half a day, but I'm not one of those. Don't get me wrong, I do consider myself a hardcore gamer, but only a few games (like God of War) kept me in front of the screen for as long as it did. That is a personal thing though, I'm sure many can't relate, but I wasn't making a general comment.

I was stating a personal opinion, that relates to my gaming habits alone. It's kind of hard to consider that a lie.

[Wolfmoonstrike]

man i dont know what you were smoking but ff10 was the crap of final fantasy well that was till 12 came along. just my personal review.

[Figboy]

lol, you should work for Edge, Lorenz! lol. you're as hardcore as they are!

i understand what you mean, even though i don't entirely agree.

for me, a 7, 7.5 is a game like the Darkness, while a game like God of War is a 9, and a game like Shadow of the Colossus is damn near a 10 (more like a 9.5).

a game like Spider-Man 3 on the PS3, is a 5, which is average/mediocre.

i'm not nearly as harsh, but i don't think i'm very lenient either.

i can enjoy a game for what it is at times (for example, i admit to enjoying the Path of Neo, even though it's a 5 or 6 type of game), but if a game just *ISN'T fun (like Marvel Ultimate Alliance), i know to put it down.

for added confusion, i think a game like Ninja Gaiden is a great game, but i *HATE it. the game pisses me the f*ck off due to it's ridiculously cheap difficulty (damn those phantom fish! damn them, i say!). i'd still rate the game up there in the 8-9 category, however, as i understand it's merits and intricacies, i just suck at the game. it seems odd, i know.

as for this topic, Edge was being ridiculous.

i mean, you *CAN'T review a game based on it's perceived market effect! that's just absurd!

that'd be like grading Loco Roco on it's perceived market effect, because it's a unique, interesting game for PSP owners, that could broaden it's market, then when it doesn't, you give it a 5, even though it deserves more like an 8 for being such a great game on it's *OWN MERITS.

on it's own, Heavenly Sword is a solid 8, at it's lowest point, and a 9 at it's highest. that's not too bad.

i'm curious to know their reasons for rating Bioshock 8/10 also.

i thought they were just being hard@sses, but they're just being crappy reviewers.

[nomuken]

Good times.

[JokesOnYou]

now why are people making a big deal out of him saying he expected HS to be a "flagship title", so what? Isn't that what sony suggested it would be? bottom line is he was dissapointed with what was delivered ha ha either way he gave some sensible reasoning for his score and remember its just one opinion, you dont see 360 fans flippin out over not so great BD reviews, so what? 360 if you like that stuff get it and if you dont believe him about HS just buy the game sony kids=

JOY

[ParaDise_LosT]

"However, even on ‘Hell mode’ (unlocked after beating the game on normal difficulty) the enemies provide little sustained challenge"
....oh....hell...no....
thats a bad sign....
the 6-8hours doesn't help either.......

[San anto]

ill wait till the next issue of the UK Play mag in september to see wat they thought of it, ill most likely still buy this game, if it gets borin sell it.

[tony]

fenderputty - 1 Hour ago

1.1 - "Seriously
They just admitted that they graded this game harder then a normal PS3 game. Ludicrous. I'm glad it got a good review from gamespot. The game played fun in the demo and, is gorgeous on top of it. I've got mine pre-ordered".

gamespot hasn't review this game yet. i don't know where did you get that information.

[Shaka2K6]

I dont care what two or 3 guys think of this game its 10 for me and cant wait to play it my self and demo its the best demo on the PSN right now it just makes me want this game more cant wait to play it it looks epica and the it has the best graphics you will play on any action game to date now im out of here bye.

[khellendros1]

That's retarded, you can't review games based on games that haven't come out yet. you don't eve know if they are going to be good. I also think that HS Shows off what PS3 can do . I think thats a stupid way to review.

[Daishi]

It's more or less they promised a 10 out of 10 game, something we haven't played yet, but we got 60% of what we expected and it takes homage from other games like Jade Empire. That does make since, as much hype is behind something like Halo 3 and it ends up being as good as say Mercenaries, I would say give it a score of 6 even though it's fun. I would want to know if a game lives up to the hype or not and not just see a high score just to make people happy.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

"It’s not good enough to simply be a good game and a flagship title: with the likes of Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 some time away, it has to be proof of the console’s capabilities and, above all else, a system seller"

what does HOW GOOD KZ2,LBP and MGS4 have to do w/ how good Heavenly Sword is?

None of those games have anything to do w/ Heavenly Sword.

Its the BEST NEXT GEN game for the "non shooting action genre"

the fighting system is a GODSEND. thats enough for me.

[Panthers]

basically add 2 to the score and that is what it should be.

[iceman2000]

pyde baye mircosvfer

[gEnKiE]

so their rating a game based on other games such as mgs4, killzone, etc that are coming out next year? hmmmm...ok?

[fopums]

people shouldnt have to explain there review IMO, if they didnt like the game, make it a point to say what you need to say the first time.

[DaTrooF]

if they wasnt why else would they explain?
the "explanation" was more dumb then the review.
i know many of you say that Edge are hard critics,but c'mon.does their reason for their score even sound legit?i dont give a fu(k how big of a fanboi u is.if you got a brain you should know what i'm talkin about.
this is EGM and the lair review all over again=(.

[Staircase]

Ugh, that is not the way to review a game. I have a feeling Edge magazine will be giving Halo 3 a 1/10, just because of it's past, and the hype behind it. When people look at reviews they don't give a crap how hyped it was.

[Zhuk]

We see game after game on the PS3 that was overhyped by fanboys get average reviews and each time the fanboys refuse to believe that these titles are nothing but AAA experiences when they're not. So what Heavenly Sword just isnt that good, just like Lair and Warhawk I am sure you'll still have fun with them they just arent going to push systems or be considered classics, just accept the reviews and reality

[fopums]

lair and heavenly sword yes, but no warhawk is an awesome title. anyone who played the beta can attest to it.

[tfur]

So wait...

Now there is a sliding curve when reviewing PS3 games?

whatever...

[SIX]

and put the game one every demo kiosk around the globe and let everyone judge for themselves. It's obvious that everyone is grading against the PS3. By setting a higher standard for PS3 games are they implying that the PS3 is leagues above the 360? Last time I checked these 2 systems where on par with each other, and in which case should be graded accordingly.

[DaTrooF]

"By setting a higher standard for PS3 games are they implying that the PS3 is leagues above the 360?"
i was thinking the same thing.
if thats how they look at it this is like a compliment to sony,but a bad thing for games on the sony console.

[Daishi]

They definately should have given it a 10 because that's what people expected and others will get mad and degrade them for not just simply giving it the score the developers said it should have....

[DaTrooF]

i'm 110% sure i'm gettin this game=]
the reasons they gave for giving it a 6 are some dumazz reasons.
theres only two things in that article i saw worth mentioning.
1.they said that the AI for the game wasnt that much difficult.
2.the parts were you shoot a arrow or something and control it with the sixaxis.they say that it will get boring after a while.
i dont think those two reasons are really that bad to give it a 6.
same thing goes for IGN US.they gave gameplay a 5,and yet IGN UK says that beside the sixaxiz controls of the arrow,ect,the gameplay is very well made.

this guys needa get they mind right.

i got a solution for both of those two problems they have posted(as written above)
1.the AI dont really have to be as difficult,this aint no ninja gaiden.
2.if you are a ps3 owner,dont just get only one game(if possible)
try to get as many as possible,so that if the part with the arrow/sixaxis sequence get boring,you can go play another great ps3 game.
later the HS Sixaxis sequences will hopefully feel new again.
like they always say variety makes for a healthy life style.
the same goes for games.

[Itachi]

narutimate hero 3 10/10 i focking loved this game the greatest fighting game made in years but do you agree

its a matter of taste

[WilliamRLBaker]

Microsoft paid them off!! conspiracy!!!

[ParaDise_LosT]

your avatar...is that a squirrel...a hamster....a small cat...or a brown rat...I really can't tell ~_~

[sandip787]

im sorry but that is one of the stupidest statements ive ever heard.
they rated it based on OTHER games? why not actually eview the game for what it is, forget the console, and forget the other games. thats what they get payed to do. or at least it thought so.
i never really liked edge magazine anyway. i much rather prefer gamesmaster. they give proper reviews for all consoles

[Imalwaysright]

I dont care what those guys from edge have to say cos they gave a 8 to Bio i say fack them all

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Question: Why do reviewers all of a sudden have to justify their ratings?

Answer: Rabid PS3 fanboys freaking out and stirring up sh1t because the reviews didn't meet their blind expectations.

<EDIT> It isn't possible for H3 to get 6/10, because M$ has obviously bought everyone off.

Lemming.

[sandip787]

so if your mighty halo 3 got a 6/10, you dont think there would be an uproar? your stupid tactics at trying to get one over on ps fans is unbelievable. go troll somewhere else you weirdo

[Mu5afir]

Seriously, what is with reviewers today? Some want to take points away from a game because it doesn't have a single player mode, others want to rate game on the basis of how many consoles it can sale?

There IS a standard for scoring a game they are:

Visuals
Game play
Story

I don't see "System Seller" as a criteria for rating a game. There have been a lot of reviews trying to "explain" themselves. First it was EGM with their "controls are too hard to learn, so this game sucks." Then we had PSM which gave Warhawk a 6, when most people agree it's a 8 or better.

And now Edge goes around giving Bioshock a 8 and Heavenly Sword a 6, and they try to explain why a game if not a system seller can't get a 9 etc..? These reviewers are loosing their credibility left and right. Is there some bug going around that everyone should know about?

[crck]

But it does seems like mags are being unusually tough on PS3 games. Their professional reviewers and should be able to look beyond the company hype. Rate a game for what it is. Not mark it down for being hyped too much. I mean IGN gave Spiderman 3 a friggin' 6. And Heavenly Sword is only a 7? I dunno just doesn't seem right to me.

[Gondee]

reviews these days dont seem to like to review THE GAME. only what it lacks and what it means for the console

[Real gamer 4 life]

did gamespot review this game already? i kepp hearing that.

[heroman711]

nah it was gamepro

[Xbox is the BEST]

Sony's idea of "Next Gen don't start till we say so"

[MK_Red]

No matter what excuse they have, they're scores were utterly stupid. BioShock, Warhawk and Space Giraffe all getting same 8 is darn stupid and HS getting 6, 1 point below MOH is downright crazy.

[Numbman]

So Halo should get like a 5, cause it won´t be like the second coming of Christ as it is beeing hyped as. Even thou I might be one of the best games this year??

[Takanohana]

Halo should get 0, dressing niggers in colorfull armour is for g@ys.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Die.

Your comments are ignorant and misguided. You sound like your the lovechild of Hitler and and KKK leader.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

Are damn stupid. Other they are biased or plain stupid. Can we get REAL Reviews?

[TheXgamerLive]

And they said nothing to explain anything really.

Ask "EDGE" if you want what they really saw and felt. This is there interpretation of what supposed EDGE reps said. Official news is the only way to go.

I still agree w/the ratings its getting, like I said months ago, this is a game and not a cutscene, cutscenes are fun for the first 10 secondsa then it's like lets move on, oterwise it's just kind of boring, nothing exciting new or creative. Again, this would of easily worked on a standard DVD.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

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[VirtualGamer]

As a PS3 owner I have been looking forward to games like HS. The demo though short is alot of fun and I have played it at least 20 times since I downloaded it from the PSN.

While it appears some reviews don't like certain aspects of game play such as the range attack I can appreciate that. Since none of us have actually had a chance to play the entire game like the reviewers have, I find it odd that some feel its not a valid point. Its aspects like this that I can say well fine some don't like that part but given all the other postive aspects of the game I am more then willing to pick it up.

The one aspect that gives me serious concern is how short the game actually is to play. I know many people gave Gears of War alot of grief over how short the single player game was but at least it has a online multiplayer aspect to give good replay and entertainment value and people still gave the game grief. So how then can we say its ok for a single player game to only have 6 hrs of gameplay? I find that for $60 we as gamers should expect more. I have no problem with single player only games but please make then longer. 20 hrs of gameplay would be more in line with my expectations. As it is now why not simply rent HS over a weekend and play it and be done with it? That would be better value then actually buying the game.

Look at Warhawk that is going to be a online multiplayer only game. Less then $60 and I can see people getting +100 hrs of fun gameplay out of it. Now compare to HS at $60 for 6 hrs. Where is the value in that? I mean I think games should have great story and such like they are trying to do with HS but at the end of the day its a game and has to deliver on that aspect or why bother? I can pick up a movie and have the ultimate story, graphics and sound.

Of course none of this has to do with the PS3 potential it all has to do with what developers told us they where going to deliver and what they finally did. If we as gamers support single player only games that are 6 hrs long for $60 then all we will see is more and more games like that. Don't you think as a consumer and as a gamer regardless of what system you prefer that we should get more bang for our buck then that?

[heroman711]

onlu 2 ppl gave it below a 9. ign and these ppl.

btw ign's score which is a 7 aint that bad but not good either but decent and alright

[VirtualGamer]

Again I could careless about the score. Did you even read what I said? I have a issue with the game being so short. So unless the game is amazingly fun, so you would want to play it over and over again, it really is not worth $60 just to play for 6 hrs.

Another thing to consider is that even if the game is amazingly fun and people enjoy playing it over and over, should one still not expect a longer gameplay experience for $60 or am I just being to demanding? Remember many PS3 fans laughed at Gears of War for being to short and now appear to be very forgiving on HS. My personal opinion is both games should have been longer.

[mightydog01]

It would'nt surprise me if they rated lair and warhawk compareing them to killzone and mgs4 stupid way to review a game. Just think of the developer's time and hard work in this game then somebody come's a long, looks at it... and says ps3 can do better drop score. instead of rating the game fairly. otherwise we would call them BS and if they rate other game's who would believe them?

[PimpHandHappy]

That game still rules! Yea the fact that he says the game loses pionts because it was meant to show what the PS3 can do is just stupid!

you can also look at it this way

This is what the PS3 can do only 9months into its life cycle! The best game on the 360 came out a year after the system was released!

ok now the piont of this post! They say the game is stunning to look at and the gameplay is well balanced with the attacks and combo's! I thougt i heard the game play was boring just a few days ago! He did say shooting arrows and stuff can become a bit boring but so can following markers in Bio Shock and playing a game that is set on rails! Just wait for gamers like me and u all to play this game and u will know what the deal is!

The furture is bright for gamers so why dont we all just enjoy what we have and stop talking smack about games that we havent even played yet!

[PimpHandHappy]

let me review the last games i have played and some that i remember! Let me just say i dont own a 360 yet but i have played there games!

Madden PS3=8
Madden 360=8.5
no need to say why! 360 is smoother even if its such a small amount after one game on the PS3 u feel like its not a differnce!

NCAA PS3=8
NCAA 360=8.5
yea same! Nice job EA

Vegas PS3=9
Vegas 360=9
lack of a good server set up and easy clan creation makes this game just less then perfect

Bio Shock 360=8.5
lack of online does bug me and we caught some lag but i have two games i play online with my PS3 and if we(PS3) did get Bio Shock i would be happy to own it! Trade in value would be good even after a month! Not the game to get the new fixed up 360!

The Darkness PS3=7.5
The Darkness 360=7.5
FPS shooter! good try but still just that! If online was cooler i could have given it a 8.5 but it stunk! So there ya go

Ninja Gaiden Sigma PS3=9
dont know about you but being a Ninja that can run on walls and cut off heads is always fun!

GRAW2 360=8.5
GRAW2 PS3= not yet
I thought the controls where maybe a bit complex and it gave the game a good hour learning curve but when u got the controls down you can make things happen like a true soldier! This game is on my wait till later list!

Oblivan 360=9
Oblivan PS3=9.5
I played like maybe 4-6 hours on the 360 and 60 hours on the PS3! Hack slash was fun and all the travel was very cool. The .5 is because i felt it looked better on the PS3 but .5 in these reviews are more about view pionts

Fall of Man PS3=10
I still play this game online and its still very fun! I even like the new maps.

Motostorm PS3=8
If i had a killer TV i might look past the lack of tracks and cars! Its still better then Dirt and online Dirt is a joke! Killer TV gives this game a 8.5

Dirt 360=7.5
I see the goodness but i dont feel like im drifting so much as im floating! I dont know?!?!?! Just didnt feel like a 9! I wont get this game on the PS3! Maybe rent it just to see if it feels more rooted

Forza 360=8.5
Online is cool and i like the cars and the grphics! Im a big GT fan and i remember feeling like my tires wire on a real ground! This game is close to that feeling i had in the past! If i had a 360 this would be my racer! Till maybe GPR4

Gears of War=9.5
Yea its all its made out to be but i want bigger online maps with more ppl running around! U make this game 8vs8 on bigger maps this game gets a 10 easy! When i played this game online i always felt like ppl ran to one spot, got there weapon, and finished one round in 30sec! To small but still some good fun

God of War 2 PS2 but played on the PS3=10
Just the whole feel of the story within the game is so cool and very well done! Making those blades spin and smash was 2much fun for such a simple game! I cant say i see a game putting story gameplay and look into game like this in the near furture!