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Playstation Move Is Going To Be Expensive

Gizmodo writes:

"Sony barely mentioned pricing with their PlayStation Move motion controller, only noting that the combo pricing with PlayStation Eye and a game will cost less than $100. But by our back-of-the-envelope calculations, the experience is going to be really expensive.

Our previous look was with the Wii MotionPlus, which clocked in at $80 per person to be fully equipped. That was $40 for the Wiimote, $20 for the Nunchuck and another $20 for the MotionPlus dongle. Now, you can get a WiiMote + MotionPlus bundle for $50, bringing the 1 person cost down to $70, factoring in the Nunchuck. For four people, assuming you didn't trash the bundled WiiMote and Nunchuck from your Wii console purchase, the cost would be $230."

mau645158d ago

yeah this adds up after a bit.

Christopher5158d ago (Edited 5158d ago )

Definitely a downside to just buying one component, like Natal.

But, honestly, in the long run it's not much at all. We already buy standard controllers in duplicate. Heck, Activision makes most of their console gaming money off of people buying more controllers. So, it's nothing new, but definitely something to consider.

Also, expensive is kind of subjective. Expensive was a PS3 at release. Now, it's not expensive. Expensive is the Ion Drumset, but GH or RB special editions with all the instruments for the same price, not expensive. As long as the people who are buying them utilize them, then their cost is really negligible.

StanLee5158d ago (Edited 5158d ago )

The problem with Move is; is the entry level cost too much for the consumer to be drawn it? Sony faced this same problem initially with the PS3 and then again with the PSP Go. I do question there pricing strategy. I think gamers are tired of additional peripherals and cost is going to be a deterrent.

menoyou5158d ago

A PlayStation Eye, plus PlayStation Move and nunchuck, plug a game for $100 is not that expensive... That's what they said the bundle would be.

markbob5158d ago (Edited 5158d ago )

Did you even read the article? They are talking about if you want to have more than one person playing at a time.

Also the initial bundle is a good deal, you get a good start for under $100

Raf1k15158d ago (Edited 5158d ago )

The $100 dollar bundle is good for casuals but TBH for core gamers all they will need is a Move controller + nunchuk and that's not much. This isn't true for everyone but it is for me as I'll be buying only core games on my PS3 as I won't be buying casual games.

edit: @soulraver, that's just what I was thinking. Only a fool would buy a starter pack for each person wanting to play. The starter pack is to get you up and running with the motion tech. If you want others to play along then all you need is another Move controller which is likely to be below $50 considering $100 gets you controller + camera + game.

For core games you'll need to buy the nunchuk seperately which is likely be relatively cheap considering it's basically half a DS3.

edit2: let's not forget that $100 is the RRP so I wouldn't be surprised to find the bundles and extra controllers on offer for less.

chrisnick5158d ago

but i figure that just not having to buy any batteries for this ever would save me a decent amount everyear anyway. A wiimote on the other hand, is a different story altogether.

soulraver5158d ago

The math is wrong, this is why, the $100 starter pack is for the Eye cam and the controller and a game.. but to play with 4 players you don't need 4 Eye cam's or 4 games, so you buy one starter pack and 3 extra controllers by them self, which we don't know how much it will be but obviously cheaper, and you get a lower price for the whole thing.

Mr Logic5158d ago (Edited 5158d ago )

I have one word for this "article". RETARDED! The eye can only track 4 moves max. $100 for a move, eye, and game. Logically we can subtract a $40 eye and let's assume it's a cheap $20 game. That makes one move $40, exactly the same as a wiimote. Everyone should know by now that the "accessory controller" or whatever it is called can easily be substituted with a DS3 or Sixaxis. So if you already have 4 controllers, which you should. For $160 (without taking into account a cheaper bundle) you can have 4 people playing a shooter or some other game and two players can play a game that requires two moves.

edit: BTW Gizmodo has realized their mistake and updated their figures, unlike this website. Price has gone from $550 to $290. Way to go media!

Cheeseknight285158d ago

This could be PSPGo all over again. An overpriced "upgrade" that people don't really want.

I sincerely hope not, though. We could see some very cool Wii ports or original IPs if this thing takes off. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

headwing455158d ago

Yup you're right about the article being wrong, I think they were sleeping during the GDC presentation.

I don't think this will be too expensive, Its less then 100 for the eye, controller and game, I have the eye so I don't think buying a controller and sub controller will be more then the dualshock

SoapShoes5158d ago

Yes, sleep is the only excuse they have... Well that and day dreaming.

Raf1k15158d ago

We all know that it's Sony's first party studios that are going to make the best use of this tech so I'm interested to see what they come up with.

I've got my fingers crossed for well thought out third party motion implementation.

randomwiz5158d ago (Edited 5158d ago )

atleast its better than the price of each fully loaded wii controller.
Wiimote + nunchuck + motion plus = $80

clonerz5158d ago

they didnt add the cost of four nunchuck for wii that another 80 dollars

FamilyGuy5158d ago (Edited 5158d ago )

Wow, way to pull prices out of your ass.

First of all the camera can ONLY TRACK 4 WANDS
PERIOD.

There will never be a game that requires 8 Move wands so 4 subs is the most you would ever see and seeing as the PS3 only supports up to 7 buletooth devices simultaneously and they'll (sub controllers) probably be around $20 each.

four wands, 3 subs at most.

$100 starter pack (Game, camera, Move)
$60 3subs
$150 for 3 additional Move controllers

Since you will NEVER be able to use 4 subs the most you will spend on this for one PS3 is $310.

Still high, but much less than your proposition and knock at least $10 off if you already have the PS3Eye. Drop off another $20 if you're logical enough to realize that no game will be made that requires 3 subs to be used simultaneously.

siyrobbo5158d ago

i dont see it, you will only needa max of 4 moves and 4 subs. they are not like wiimotes, the wiimotes have infrared cameras in them, the moves only have leds in them, so they should be a lot cheaper to manufacture and sony could sell them cheap maybe in even sell a bundle with 4 movesfor $149 or something

its going to be interesting going into E3, i wonder which will reveal price first, sony or MS, whoever goes fist leaves the other free to undercut them (i can imagine sony announcing $99, and MS announcing $89 not long after, or vice versa)

i think sonys biggest uphill battle will be with nintendo, they have so much leway wih regards to price, a slash on the wiis price the week before this launches and they can kiss goodbye to the casual crowd (same goes for natal) unless they have something earth shattering to reveal

jamesgtaiv5158d ago

yet be worthless at the same time. Im annoyed as a PS3 owner about this.

kneon5158d ago (Edited 5158d ago )

So it's pretty much the same as the Wii. The Wii has been the most expensive console to own this generation, followed by the XBox due due it's over priced accessories. Now the PS3 can move into the #2 or #1 spot :)

I've already got 4 wiimotes plus 2 nunchucks and half a dozen dualshocks around the house, what's a few more controllers hanging around :)

Somnipotent5158d ago (Edited 5158d ago )

so does the wii...

$39.99 for the wii remote
$19.99 for the motion plus
$19.99 for the nunchuk
a crapload of batteries OR
$29.99 for the quad charger with batteries

thats what... 80 bucks per player or 320 bucks for 4...

the ps move bundle would include the move controller, the sub controller, and the ps-eye for $99.99

the ps eye goes for $39.99

assuming you have an eye already (like myself) you can deduce that sony will sell the controller components at 30 bucks a piece, that would make it $60 per player...at $240 for 4 players. oh yeah, it comes with rechargeable batteries. add in the ps eye, it's $280. STILL CHEAPER THAN BUYING 4 WII REMOTES!!!

SolidSystem5158d ago

the ps3 can have a max of 7 controllers at a time, thank blue tooth.

so theres no way to develop a game having 4 people with 4 controller sets. that would be 8 controllers.

i think the max number of controllers you will need will be 4 move, 2 sub.

its not like you can have 2 v2 gladiator or that boxing/fighting game.

Anon19745158d ago

...they more than make up for it by still charging subscription fees for the "privilege" of playing 100% of your games as the developers intended after you've already bought the title.

evilmonkey5015158d ago

this bundle is bogus for me.Who am I kidding, I wont buy it anyway and I'm a Sony loyalist!

saint_john_paul_ii5158d ago

theres a difference between this and the PSPgo.

The PSPgo is 5 year old technology that should be cheaper. and i have a PSPgo. its really good piece of tech, its what i believe in my opinion, should of been what the PSP should of been, but not worth the penny due to the price.

the move will most likely cost around the price of a Dualshock 3. you will most likely pay 50-60 dollars for both a nunchuck and the controller. thats about the same price as a wii-mote with the nunchuck.

as for the bundle with the eye, its a great starter pak. if you dont have the PS eye yet, wait till that comes out, or buy one now. it will make your buy cheaper to purchase if you buy the eye now.

IdleLeeSiuLung5158d ago

Max two players with Moves and sub-controller (nunchuk) or four with just the Moves.

This means in some experiences it is even more limited than the Wii.

Reasons to get this is getting fewer... I will buy it, but wait for the inevitable price drop or for the killer app.

Pillage055158d ago

I'm thinking the most anyone would ever need is 4 moves and 2 subs...but yeah that is still going to be expensive. Until I see a better reason to invest..I won't (Although I am a sucker for rail shooters :D )

On a side note, if we end up getting Mii's too...I may make a move to pc gaming only lol.

lokiroo4205158d ago

So how many "hardcore" gamers are going to claim they dont already have half of what the move bundle package is?

vhero5158d ago

Wii controls are super expensive for the whole lot as is this so big deal! Honestly though you only need 1 PS eye per 4 controllers with the wii you need 4 motion plus.

HolyOrangeCows5157d ago

Controllers aren't incredibly cheap.

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Dukeoffl5158d ago

wow, this so different from the wii.......not.

brandynevils5158d ago

yeah tye are all pointless, game controllers is all i need and not this motion bull.

Kahlanamnel5158d ago

With the Camera it is a bit different. But man...those demo's yesterday didn't look much better than the wii

stoppre5158d ago

Will the camera make that much of a difference?

tplarkin75158d ago

Sony must like throwing money away. The Wiimote was a cheap novelty.

siyrobbo5158d ago

so far sonys offering has been a bit crap, bowling-table tennis-boxing-archery, its all been done before

i sincerely hope that ms doesnt come along showing off the same stuff, MS sports, 360 play etc

Pillage055158d ago

The camera adds a third dimension...but other than that..no not much different than the wii. One thing I will say that will be better that sense it is the camera making the observation of where the ball is....the move will be better about pointing away from the screen. If you've played a wii game where you have to point, youve seen how it freaks out when the controller can't see the infrared. This should be no/or less of an issue.

Still, not very excited about this. It's a waste of time this late into the console cycle. Also is no one worried about balance issues in online games like socom 4. Hopefully they aren't allowed for online play. :S That would be kind of like letting half of the people use keyboard and mouse.

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stoppre5158d ago

This is kind of crazy once you sit down and think about it. Really expensive!

smashly5158d ago

exactly, supposed to be for the casual but the price just keeps on going up. I love the PS3 and how the price of everything went down for a bit but to play this with friends add another $100+ to it.

stoppre5158d ago

Yeah. natal is sounding better price wise at this point

SoapShoes5158d ago

Hmmmm, perhaps because it HAS NO PRICEPOINT? Yeah, PS4 is sounding better as well.

Kahlanamnel5158d ago

MS already said Natal will be 100 or less. so yeah...it IS sounding better price wise.

rexus123455158d ago

I have a couple friends who already own ps3 all said they are willing to pay $100 for this toy

SoapShoes5158d ago

I'll wait until official pricing comes and if that is true it still sounds worse. Natal with no games for $100... Well, add some extra for a game then. But then again we don't have any details on Natal, so how could we compare? Heck, we barely have any details on the Move, we don't know how many different starter pack bundles they'll have.

Arnon5158d ago

Lol it still sounds worse? :/

Natal is one peripheral, and will require absolutely NO MORE add-on accessories. That in my eyes, is a solid win. Games are subjective to the player. You don't have to buy games, when a blockbuster or gamefly is right around the corner.

Honestly, the only thing that should be compared are the price points of the actual accessories being sold, not it's games.

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Nicholas Cage5158d ago

i payed 600 bucks for my ps3 at launch i can easily afford this, im getting it cause its sony,lol sound stupid but i play bass and you know quality when u hear it play it.

Kahlanamnel5158d ago

you sir are in the minority on this one.

stoppre5158d ago

Yeah...there is no way i am paying 800 plus for a ps3 and all that move crap

evilmonkey5015158d ago

c'mon dude. 299+100=800? You must be doing Obamacare math...

SKGamer5157d ago

If you're trying to get into the gaming market fresh, and want the core gaming experience AND the Move stuff, yeah you would easily rack up 800.

$300 - system
$300 - Move controllers
$165 - Additional Dualshocks
$60 - New Game

That's $825 for the system, controllers and first game. That's not counting the additional costs if you want to get a headset for online (which I have), an HDMI cable for full-quality visuals (which I have), and of course the additional software you eventually get.

Gaming is a very expensive hobby.

evilmonkey5015157d ago

my friends will have to play with me from their own house now! lol...

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Kahlanamnel5158d ago

They should have just made the Sub Controller Motion activated but put a on/Off switch on it.

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar955d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal955d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein955d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k955d ago (Edited 955d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH956d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS956d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH956d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721956d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever956d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar955d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics956d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH956d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos956d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils956d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH956d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein955d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr956d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721956d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard956d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH956d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever956d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal956d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal955d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH956d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin955d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290956d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo955d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC955d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy956d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa956d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins956d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos956d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever956d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC956d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever956d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen958d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad958d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007958d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia958d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992958d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992958d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad958d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex958d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992958d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic958d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad958d ago (Edited 958d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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