PlayStation Motion Controller Officially Named; Detailed

Since it's debut at E3 2009, the PS3 motion controller has been known by the boring working title 'Motion Controller'. Just a few weeks ago it rumored to be named 'Arc', a trademark and a domain name registration backed up those claims. However, a recent finding of a trademark for the name "Move" threw us for a curveball. Finally all the speculation can end, as the real name for the PS3 motion controller has officially been revealed.

[The Great Melon]

Lol, its the Move not the Arc. First time I have heard about the Move name was today. They did a good job keeping the name under wraps.

Good, they are selling both parts by the sound of it together. EDIT** Shoot they aren't selling them together. I wonder how much the addon will cost. **EDIT Hopefully, if you have the camera the Move will fall around $50. Plenty of options though to get the product into homes.

Looks very responsive. If it has the same latency as the Dualshock III as they said, then that already is a great victory.

[Blaze929]

Playstation Move huh?....

EDIT:

Anyone seen that motion fighter game?...more particularly, did anyone notice that LAG? I thought only Natal lagged....pre-alpha? Nah, Natal is pre-alpha and people judge that so let's do the same for Playstation Move people!

/sarcasm

[davekaos]

PS Move. Move off that stage and show us some gameplay.
God im really excited

Edit
The mock pick was exactly how it looks
Starter pack = 1 game ps eye ps move under $100 WOW

Edit
Seriously people you need to watch this, its amazing.

Whats with the disagree's? there must be some xbots who are really butthurt that MOVE actually works.
So i was right ps move sub controller (nunchuck) is used for FPS
http://n4g.com/up/ActionRed...
I called it.

@ Immortal Kaim. The starter pack will be under $100 £70 which includes ps eye ps move and a selected game.
How is that not excellent value

[coolcole93]

I like it.

[matt247]

PS Move away

[Jamegohanssj5]

F this announce my GTA Collections.

TGSI

[Megaton]

Great. Sony and Microsoft both devolving with motion controls this fall with the push of a "new console launch". Should make for a facepalm-heavy holiday season. Hoping to see some hot flying controller on TV screen action at some point during this presentation.

[InfectedDK]

The Wii just died..
Wii 2 HD = PS3, It only does everything

[Shang-Long]

Wow eye and move for under 100 wow talk about win!

[Immortal Kaim]

So they only said 'under $100 (US)'? If it is any where near that price I don't think it is going to take off. This is going to be heaps expensive in Aus...

@Davekos: Because when they say under $100 it usually means $99 ;)
Sony has a bad habit of overcharging PAL territories, so $100 US will likely equate to $200 over here, and that price just won't cut it. Anyway, we don't know the actual price point yet, It is likely that Sony will wait to see how MS price Natal and release their price accordingly.

[young juice]

sony better market the SH*T out of this, cause if they dont show people what the controller can really do, some people are gonna brush it off as another wii.

blu-ray, motion control = casuals

psn premium + AAA titles = for the hardcore.

[Timesplitter14]

That was arguably the worst conference of all time.

PS3 fan here

[siyrobbo]

the fighting game looked junk, didnt even have 1:1

the table tennis gamee looked fun

socom loooked interesting but a little awkward, but i trust zipper

not impressed with anything else shown, but theres more to come

[Jinxstar]

Wow. That was like a whole 45 minutes of them calling out MS.... Not that I would ever enjoy Socom with motion but it looked very doable and is a good option... Crazy...

[FlameBaitGod]

blaze? lag ? you must of had crappy link. There was like 2 parts where it lagged a lil bit but it wasn't really noticeable

[Rumor]

ZOMFG! wii who???

[WhittO]

Dont really like the name, really like the product!

I was impressed with how accurate it is and the pricing seems to be cheap considering you get a PS Eye too.

I'm guessing once you play this for a month, once you go back to the Wii the controls will seem really inaccurate and worthless lol.

Wii controls with 2X Accuracy + PS3 Amazing Graphics = Win!!

[Greywulf]

Sony has just shown multiple applications of working game with absolutely minimal "lag" which looked more like he did the thing too fast. Compared to Natal showing nothing withn 1:1 controls. Motion controls are a gag, No Sony fanboys are waiting on it to be the savior of their PS3 unlike others are for the 360. Its a luxury item at this point.

Its 1:1 which you can see from any of the demos. Any of the demos(again), any of the demos. Unlike hitting a ball or twisting an entire avatars body, the guy even pulled off a spin move on a second attempt.

Or hell.. pickup a DS3 and see the lag, since its the same technology. You guys are so lost this gen.

Lets see.. 45 minutes of 2 seconds of lag, vs...

Everything Natal has ever shown?

No surprises here though. Sony has a 1:1 Benchmark, and working games. While Microsoft has... uh... advertising, and hitting a ball.

[Darkstorn]

I liked the 'Arc' name better...

It still seems gimmicky, but I'm listening.

[van-essa]

hmm self-contradicting much?

BTW, Iwata must be laughing his ass off right now.

[Bilbo65]

It was GDC not a trade show they had this mostly to get devs interested.
People expecting game announcements got their hopes way to high.

[Immortal Kaim]

Where can we watch the the vid again?

[WhittO]

Also, I like the fact this is getting the Marketing of a new platform launch, since ps eye can basically already do what Natal can (watching the eye pet demo), alot of people will see Natal as a fail, since you cant really PLAY games by waving arms around in every game.

[mugoldeneagle03]

About what I expected, yet as a long time SOCOM fan I'm still not sold at all at using the "move" instead of the Dualshock. I'll be reading plenty of the hands on previews first.

As for the name, it doesn't sound that bad. I like that it's more of an official name. It'll give random consumers an idea of what it does from just it's name unlike "Arc".

[fox02]

As from this moment Sony fanboys can no longer hate on anyone for copying anything, ever. First the Sixaxis, then the trophies... now they're blatantly ripping off the Wii? come on.

"Sports champion" LMAO. What's next, Wario? Oh wait, that's been done already, but I'm sure they'll find something.

[BattleAxe]

The PS Move is hot! Much better tech than Natal. Would I rather play Socom4 with the PS Move, or a game with balls flying at me with Natal?............My choice is clear........SOCOM4 FTW!!

[W-k]

i am blown away,this was really good!! i cant wait now!!! socom with
ps move was impressive and that fighting game MAN i cant wait!!! gaming will never be the same and the best thing is if i want my six axis i can if i want to use move i can,no need to worry about using one or the other and that's awesome!,well done Sony,well done.

[CrazzyMan]

But nothing special so far.

If we can get Red Steel 1,2 with PS Move, then i`m happy. Maybe some other Wii games in HD too.

PS Move a bit stupid name, like for PSP Go.

Anyway, people laughed from Wii back then, but now, it`s best selling console this gen.
We shall see, what can PS3 Move("Wii HD") show to us.
IF people want motion controls on PS3, they will get them.

Also, i don`t think, that Move is VERY important to Sony. It`s just a plan of it only does everything. Still, if there are about half a million people in Europe, which already bought Eye Pet, i think Sony will be doing fine with this new add-on.
Prepare for a lot of Wii ports and multiplatform games.))

[Christopher]

The only lag I could tell on the small screen was when he performed certain special moves (head hitting and the such), which may be intentional or something, I'm not sure.

But, you can't come here with a straight face and try to compare one instance of lag when you see that there is a completely lag free TPS right after and none of the other games had any lag whatsoever.

This is interesting to see how they've implemented the technology, but I'm just not sold on it. It definitely is very precise and has very little latency between movement and result.

Edit: I do have to admit, and please no laughter, but I was very much into the table tennis. We don't have space for one in the house and I played it a ton as a kid. But, I'm not going to buy that just for table tennis.

Also, I don't really like Move, but the name of the 'expanded' controller was even worse. They need to think of a new name for the expanded controller than whatever the heck they were throwing out there.

[INehalemEXI]

that glowing ball in the dark is actually pimp sh1t. I got to get this and Socom 4.

this just in from sony.... "all ur casual r belong to us."

[Jinxstar]

@ Fox02....

Really dude... I dont think anything in the games industry is 100% original man... I belive PS as a brand take other ideas and make them better. I could do the same thing for MS Ready

"Avatars are Mii's how unoriginal"

"Natal is a rip off of PS eye for the PS2"

... It is all the same crap it's about which is the best end game product for me the Hardcore gamer... in the end for me it's the system that does everything

Bluray, Free online, Precise motion(Not interested in motion but if I were it would be move), Epic GOW3, Fantastic exclusives, Wifi, Hard drive standard, Rechargable controller standard.... Everything I want... you can talk all you want about cross game chat making the 360 superior but thats just something I would never use... Other then that the 360 has a few exclusives that... Dont stand up to the PS3 bro... It's no wonder you have no bubs. time to make a new account eh?

You can prefer whatever you like but dont troll PS3 threads. Like whatever you want bro and prefer halo if you choose over anything else... just realize almost nothing is original anymore it's all evolution and no revolution...

[Noctis Aftermath]

It's been updated with Move info and pictures.

http://blog.eu.playstation....

[jack_burt0n]

tretton is a frigging legend

"I am coming to say hello cos you guys the hardcore pay my wages and i dont forget that"

Only wish the marketing team was as cool as him the technology is happening but in terms of making it look cool or hyping it they fail lol fighting game looked pretty good and the table tennis accuracy is perfect but they need some japanese stuff going on like survival horror and ape escape but the show was not aimed at "hardcore" it was family time.

[The Maxx]

You are absolutely right. Don't listen to the SDF in here. I watched it and yes there was lag.

@Greywulf
YOU are out of your mind. "Sony has just shown multiple applications of working game with absolutely minimal "lag" which looked more like he did the thing too fast."

when Natal was shown with the guy break dancing the SDF was all over it, including a site that looked at it frame by frame, and the guy dancing in front of Natal was moving a hell of a lot faster than that guy doing the punching moves with Sony's Move.

[IHateYouFanboys]

@Greywulf:

Killzone 2 has 200ms of input lag with the dualshock, so if Move has that much.....

ive already got a PSEye, and living in australia im not looking forward to the pricing of this. a US$60 game is AU$100, so a US$100 Move pack will be pushing AU$200. unless they sell the Move + Sub-Controller for less than $100 i will not be buying it. Same with Natal - unless its around $100 or less im not interested.

[Hellsvacancy]

Arc sounded dumb, Playstation Move though? i quite like, still not interested in it though its up 2 Sony 2 persuade me in that department

[van-essa]

Do people really truly think Wii owners are going to buy a $300 console and then spend another $100 so that they can play the exact same games that came out on their current system 3+ years ago? Really? I genuinely can't tell if people are reciting bullet points or actually believe it will happen.

[INehalemEXI]

Motion Fighter (working title) is win ....that is all.

[Immortal Kaim]

Thanks for the pics Noctis. As always, Sony has an awesome design team, the thing looks damn stylish. I just can't help but think, this has to be the most blatant rip-off I have ever seen in the videogame industry. It is so damn close to the Wii's basic design that it just seems...I don't know... tactless.

Of course we can't really have these discussions on N4G, because anything even remotely 'not praising' Sony is out of bounds, but I'm sure other PS3 owners feel the same? It is kind of funny to see all the fanboys praising motion controls now, especially after the last 3 years of hating on the Wii...

[jack_burt0n]

@van-essa

Alot of people will look at $80 is less than a wii if they already have a ps3, and people will look at the bundle and think which system will give them HD movies, GT5 and party games for the kids and fitness games for the wife.

Makes sense to me.

[JaredH]

At first the under $100 price tag for the bundle sounded good since I don't have a PS Eye but to get the full experience I have to buy that, a single controller(coop) and two second attachment things so it'll cost me like $170 roughly or maybe even more. I'll wait till they release the actual price as I'd rather buy this than a wii. I also want to see hardcore games specifically designed just for this(deadspace extraction HD?) not just the option of using it like Socom.

[Jinxstar]

They said less than 1 frame of lag... 1/60th of a second... That's nothing... Also every demo they had on stage was either a. A working title or b. Pre alpha and they all looked fantastic to me... I don't see what people are complaining about lag for. The proof is in the demos. Price may prove a tough sell but wii owners may trade up especially if they want a blu ray player and such. Or for those that 3d appeals too. It won't sell gang busters but I think t will have a good audience

[solidjun5]

He's tries to be clever about it.

[RememberThe357]

It's not "tact-less" if they were working on the tech way before any mention of the Wii (or even the Revolution, for that matter). What has be more excited about this than I was for the Wii is that they are selling it not as a "motion controller" but as a "new controller". I'm not completely sold on it either but I don't see it as a rip-off at all, just as I can't legitimately call Natal a rip-off.

There was bound to be a change in the way we control our games and some one had to do it first. The Wii started it off and now Microsoft and Sony are going to prefect it. The fact that they are coming out with hardcore games right next to casual games shows that they want everyone to be able to use this device. If they can get the hardcore games down, I would have no problem buying this.

Jinxstar: They're going to selling it the same way they sell everything else. It will start out at a higher price to make it seem desirable and elite then they'll lower the price after working all the kinks out. Same thing they did with the PS3.

[-Alpha]

Was worried Sony was starting to market this towards "teh cazuals!" but the tech seems to work great with games.

$100 or less is good news
Games seem solid, though I'm not too fond of the casual demonstrations
Third party devs seem to be on board though I don't trust many of them to make proper games-- I'm expecting shovelware from some guys but thank God for Sony's First Party Studios.

@FlameBait God

The point people like Blaze was trying to make was that people were ragging on Natal lag despite being pre-alpha and when Move lag is pointed out people are pulling out the "jealousy" card. It works both ways. The point is, we should just wait till the products completely release. I am not hearing anything about lag anyway and GDC seemed to by smooth sailings for Sony, but yeah, let's just be a little patient before starting Motion Wars. People are already making wild accusations and trying to condescend the opposition. It's silly.

Also, OMG they showed Socom 4!(?) Am I the only one excited to see gameplay? I'm playing MAG and loving it but I've wanted Socom 4 for a while now. I can't wait for E3, Arc (I don't want to call it Move) keeps moving ahead every time I see it. We saw the games but now I want to see the capabilities with the Eye Toy (User Identification, social networking, and of course, more games).

[FlameBaitGod]

jinx the fanboys and the people who try to act like if their not fanboys are the ones complaining about lag lol. I think some here haven't seen the natal video of the balls LOL, thats true lag. The video will be available to see again in g4tv so the people can point out where they say those amazing LAGS.

[StanSmith]

I remember seeing this excitement a little while ago when the eyetoy was announced. Remember how Sony told us that it would change the way we game and look how eyetoy turned out.......

Sony and Microsoft are not going to capture the success of the wii. The shovelware will arrive on both consoles and once both are released, I'll give it 6 months before everyone no longer gives a crap about either of them.

[Immortal Kaim]

Oh please, not the usual spiel 'they were working on it before 'X' company', because we all know that's bs...It is clearly a response to the Wii's success, anyone can see that. I think most people are going to see this as a clear copy-cat move, will it hurt Sony's image as innovator in the industry, who knows?

I just don't see how all this hate for motion controls has suddenly dissipated now that Sony has unveiled their motion control, if you're (as in people) are going to hate on something with fanboy vitriol, at least be consistent...

[ThatCanadianGuy]

"That was arguably the worst conference of all time.

PS3 fan here"

Not really, you must of been one of the many hyping it up nonstop for the last week.Thinking they were going to announce dozens of new games or something..

It's GDC not E3..
I kept my expectations low, and i'm quite content with what i seen.
Certainly better than last year's anyways.

[solidjun5]

"It is kind of funny to see all the fanboys praising motion controls now, especially after the last 3 years of hating on the Wii..."

I'm still not down. Regardless who it's from. I think the concept is cool. Don't get me wrong, but whether it's Natal or 'Move', it's kind of a wait and see for me. I have a wii and even I was surprised at it's success. It has great games that uses the motion very well and it'll continue to do so. I'm sure it'll be the same for Natal and 'Move.'

If it's pulled off nicely, then it shall be a great christmas and beyond.

But I'll honest with you. I wasn't hyping this up. The price is reasonable and that's cool but it'll take more than that to come after my restricted wallet. I want to see some more games and demonstrations. Particularly from Sony's first party studios (ND, Santa Monica, etc..)

[N4BmpS]

That wasn't a lag the move just didn't register. Learn your terms people, I would also like to know what the point of that video was but I doubt I'll get a competent response.

[callahan09]

I noticed this comment from a different source ( http://www.psnathome.com/ge...

"Note: DUALSHOCK 3 and SIXAXIS wireless controller can be used in place of the sub controller for all games that are compatible with the sub controller"

That's good! When I was watching the RE5 demonstration at TGS with the Dualshock 3 being used in place of the "subcontroller" (as it's been called now) I thought it looked good enough, and I went ahead and practiced using the dualshock 3 with 1 hand in that manner, and it also felt good enough to me.

I'd rather just do that then spend extra money on the subcontroller, at least at first. The good thing is that for games requiring that functionality, you don't HAVE to buy a subcontroller. Which is nice.

[RememberThe357]

I've never been personally against motion controllers. I've been against how Nintendo has handled it but pushing shovelware and not taking advantage of their massively talented first-party.

No one outside fanboys are going to care that Sony and Microsoft are trying to mock Nintendo's success. And how is it that I can't bring up the valid point that Sony was working on this before Nintendo's Revolution was even announced? There is no doubt that with the massive success that is the Wii, the motion controller was put on the fast track. But they aren't "copying" Nintendo. This in not a pointer, or glorified guncon.

If I'm getting exited for this it is because Sony is showing me games that I actually want to play. Nintendo never really did that so I never got excited for it. Like I said, I'm not completely sold on it yet, but I'm not as against it as I was.

[IHateYouFanboys]

@Immortal Kaim:

thats the sony fanboy way - hate on everything that your console doesnt have UNTIL it gets it, then blindly say that same thing is the best thing since sliced bread and how sony are so revolutionary for getting it.

it happens with everything the PS3 gets 'after the fact':

- Bioshock and other previously 360 exclusive games: when it was a 360 exclusive, it wasnt worth getting. it was rubbish, boring, bad graphics, and a 5/10 game. then it gets announced for PS3, and all of a sudden its a AAA game, best graphics around, must-have, and could only be done on the PS3 somehow.

- Trophies: PS3 owners dont want achievements. theyre pointless, not fun, add nothing to games, and just make people play games not in the way they were intended just so they can get trophies. then Trophies get announced for PS3, and suddenly theyre a game-changer. best thing to happen to video games since the ability to save games, and we apparently have Sony to thank for inventing such a wonderful thing. Games are now so much better because of trophies, and if a game doesnt have them its not worth playing.

- Motion Control: PS3 owners dont want stupid gimmicky remote controls for motion control. The PS3 is a HARDCORE GAMERS console! casual games are rubbish and for kids, and motion control is so stupid that it will never take off. the 70 million + (or however many wiis there are) wii owners are all idiots. Motion Control is a fad that will never take off, and will die out soon. Then the PS3 gets motion controllers announced. Motion control is so awesome now, its the future of gaming! being able to swing around a controller like a bat is so HARDCORE GAMER now, and pointing at the screen to select things is just awesome. Sony really are re-inventing video games as we know it, bringing motion control to us in a way we've NEVER EVER EVER seen, through the use of 2 single hand controllers used to waggle around.

- In-game XMB: PS3 owners dont want to be able to send messages to friends while playing games, cause theyre too HARDCORE! they dont want to be able to look whos online, or listen to music, or do anything other than play the game thats in their PS3. Then the PS3 gets in-game XMB. WOW!!! Sony are so awesome for letting us message people and check our friends lists while in a game!!! how did they do it? its revolutionary, a break-through! all of a sudden we all want to message everyone while we're playing and check our friends list to see what people are playing.

- Custom Soundtracks: PS3 owners dont want to listen to music while playing games. they just put their stereo on if they want to listen to musice. why would we want our own favourite tunes to replace the in-game music? thats stupid, we want to listen to the developer-chosen beautifully crafted, professional chosen, emotionally moving soundtrack, or have no music while playing multiplayer. Then the PS3 gets custom soundtracks (albeit in a very limited way in only a select few games). WTFOMG this is so awesome!! i can listen to MY OWN MUSIC while playing Killzone 2 online! thanks sony, youre really innovating now! no longer do i have to sit there with no music on, or listen to the god awful generic electric guitar rock soundtrack in most games today!!!

its just the fanboy mentality, and its especially prevalent in sony fanboys - hate something you dont have, say you dont want it, then love it when you get it and say you said it was good all along.

[Greywulf]

Video of a break dan.. Who gives a damn? 1 video.. of a breakdancer? Versus Oh I dont know, any video you can pull up right now with Natal showing its lag? How about video of the thing being demo'd with a basic BALL HITTING Demo and there being lag during the entire thing? You guys are so invested into natal its pathetic. THe dev stated its not 1:1, they also said its 30fps, and won't include any processor outside of it just being a camera which takes 10-15% of the Unreal engines power to run on the 360. You wanna try to ball up and spout some nonsense at me, bring something solid. Not "BUH A BREAKDANCER VIDEO" How about "BAM THERE IT IS!" Nothing shown of Natal has been 1:1 Because it can't.

Wheres the lag while playing Ping pong, or archery, little big planet, socom or the gladiator fight?
Oh yeah no where. Go take your bag of "buhs" somewhere else. You're done outside of just rattling off at the keyboard to save face.

And some other chump "I HATE FANBOYS"

WHy are you talking about Killzone2? I always see you talking about Killzone2's Lag. Are you this obtuse, or do you not get that Motion Controls (K E Y W O R D) MOTION require 1:1 response time? Because YOU are the control. Not an input into a control, thats inside of a game universe. Its like you're all excited to point out a FPS game, without motion controls, has an input lag? Which was minuscule and doesn't affect gameplay since the engine is designed around it. Its clearly your ace in the hole... a AAA title, with input lag shows that MOVE isn't 1:1 @ 60fps? -- Or that NATAL will work fine as a ( M O T I O N ) controller with input lag? LoL.. you believe this right?

Unlike NATAL, which is 100% lag, since the developers themselves said its not 1:1. Why are we arguing this? You're flat wrong. Period. Natal can't do 1:1, or 60fps. These are facts. It can't react as fast as your body can, which all NATAL demo's have shown.

Oh and IHATEFANBOYS:

1. HDMI
2. STREAMING/DOWNLOADABLE HD MOVIES & Games( You can purchase on PSN)
3. HDD Installs (WOW HALO RUNS SOO MUCH BETTER NOW!)
4. Mii/Home Avatars -(WOW I LOVE MASTER CHEF SHIRTS!)
5. 3D gaming
6. Final Fantasy - Who needs this we have mass effect2
7. Metal Gear - Who needs this, we have splinter cell!
8. NATAL - 360 am only 4 hardcure.

Get out of here. Your arguments are the Day 1 systemwars arguments from 5 years ago. Just the fanboys care about that stuff, not the people buying more PS3's during holiday seasons than 360's.

Not 1 single Sony rep has said Motion controls are the future of gaming. But thats because Sony didn't blow its wad early in the game and have nothing else to look forward to but swatting at balls on a screen... Unlike...

Unlike NATAL & Peter Monelux..who have already claimed Natal will change your life..

your arguments are garbage. Next time don't trip all over them on the way to the debate.

Sony actually put thought into Move, which is why they can show it off in a variety of games.

Bam, there it is.

[theEnemy]

It
Only
Does
Wii.

^_^

[IHateYouFanboys]

lol wtf greywulf?

i didnt make any 'arguments' about system wars or natal or ANYTHING like that? all i was doing was pointing out the hypocricy of PS3 fanboys.

when you use a camera to recognise movement there is ALWAYS lag. the picture has to get taken, sent through to the PS3, then put up on the screen. it is physically impossible to have it not have any lag - all you have to do is look at the eyetoy to see this.

where you WONT have lag is when the camera is NOT being used to track the motion, but instead the motion tracking is being done by the actual Move hardware using the sensors in it. that is just relayed straight to the PS3 via bluetooth, the same way that a normal controller does it. which brings me to my comment about Killzone 2.....

Killzone 2 uses the standard controller but features MORE lag than Natal does in videos/demos we've seen. so you saying - and i quote:

"Or hell.. pickup a DS3 and see the lag, since its the same technology. You guys are so lost this gen. "

is completely incorrect, since using that same technology CAN result in very noticable lag, ie Killzone 2 and its 200ms of lag.

now i suggest that before you go on another little fanboy rant about things that i didnt even say, like you just did, you ask your mum to sit down and read the other posts with you, so she can explain what people are actually saying. your comprehension skills appear to equal those of a piece of 2 week old moldy bread.

i was ONLY talking about fanboys and how hypocritical they are. NOTHING ELSE.

[MiloGarret]

It looks like a dildo, you all know it's true. It's also a shameless ripoff. It's also crap. If you buy this, then you are sto-pid.

At least natal tries something new, this is just disgusting.

[insomnium]

Are you really THAT stupid?

This is the first time we are actually close to 1:1 motion controls. Ps2, x360 and wii doesn't have it. PS3 does. WITHOUT 1:1 EVERY SINGLE MOTION CONTROLLING IS S*IT!!!!caps lock off.

Tell me are you still trying to tell me you don't get me and tell me I'm a hypocrite or something?

@IHateYouFanboys

Sorry buddy but greywolf owned you no way around it. You can cherry pick comments from thousands of fanboys and pretend every PS3 fan thinks exactly the same all you want. With this motion controller we once again have facts on our side.

There's virtually NO LAG. That makes ALL the difference. LAG is sh*t. That's one of the reasons why we love PSN more than XBL. Dedicated servers = no LAG and no host advantage. You guys really are lost.

Good job greywolf. I cannot understand why your bubbles are down. I always try to bubble you up but there's only so much one man can do on this site when he is legit and not using multiple accounts.

@Milo Garret

Oh man. That is just priceless.

[SkyGamer]

I personally liked the "Arc" name better. It sounds like it has more flair and pizzaz. Move just seems bland. Should have stuck with PS Arc.

[vhero]

playstation move sounds a LOT better

[The Maxx]

IT WAS PRE-ALPHA!!!

You defend Sony's Move by saying it's pre-alpha but then turn around and COMPLETELY IGNORE that NATAL was also Pre-Alpha.

It's unbelievable your hypocrisy and total bias towards Sony.

[insomnium]

Do you think that Natal and Wiimote and Move are on the same level when we are speaking of lag?

To all the earlier disagreers if you disagree without a comment you agree with me.

[Darklord_Blade]

Oh oh here come the fan-boys lol. Now before anyone starts flaming me let it be known that i own all 3 Consoles, 4 if you include the PC so I'm not choosing sides here but i think its funny when the Xbox 360 announced the Natal and it was shown PS3 fans said it was a rip-off of the PS-Eye. Now we see the "Move" and those same fans are fine with it even though it seems to be a rip-off of the wii-mote. I think that all 3 motion controllers will succeed or rather i hope they will all succeed no need for all this, the more they succeed the better for us gamers.

[Oner]

The amount of shear misinformation is staggering in here!

"Lag" ~ BS
"Wii Copy" ~ BS
"Natal Innovative & New" ~ BS

Sony/PlayStation has done what Natal is doing now with the EyeToy LAST GEN with the PS2 over 8 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And my absolute favorite

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The PlayStation Move/Eye & EyeToy does/did what EVERYBODY else is doing NOW. Deny it, lie about it & avoid it all you want...but it won't change the FACT that SONY innovated it from the get go! Your misinformed and biased BS is clear to all who have the tools and information to prove you wrong EVERY time.

[N4g_null]

Once the casuals see this it's over. It's like reebok trying to make a Nike like product. The price is going to get pretty bad and the price of the games are not appealing to them and where is their balance board? When will Zelda and Mario 5 come out for it? Oh they won't? You guys fail to see why people like the wii.

Sony runs the risk of looking like a higher priced rip off in hd. Sure Sony fans like it yet this may attualty end this gen if they can not make this work.

They also risk ruining the games of the hardcore. Yet if motion control is an option only waggled will replace button presses. What is even sadder is the resort has already been shown to the casuals and the hardcore and so far it does every thing the MOVE does.

They really need to fix the nun chuck and put a gyro in it or it will just get even more over priced and actually limit or even split the market into people who have two moves and people that do not.

Something tells me they should delay this till next gen. Just like what nintendo did with the wii. I would love to have a ps3 with more ram and power. I hope it works for them yet good luck in converting all that motion gaming and the non hardcore focus along with the idea you are not slowly turning your back on your fans.

This is going to be interesting since there is no lag in motion plus at all now.

[doctorstrange]

Really dont like that name

[-Alpha]

But Arc sounds so much better. Sony needed a thesaurus, out of all the names they used the most generic, obvious one. I mean, I'm sure everybody thought "Sony Motion" or "Sony Move" but I can't believe they actually went with it. Arc sounded fantastic IMO, and to hell with it, that's what I'll call it! Whatever, it's just a name, I'm hyped with the product though it looks fantastic.

@357

You are likely correct, but it's a name, and I think your not giving the casuals credit. I mean, what the hell is a Wii? They loved that though. I think Move is just way too generic. Arc sounded clever. SIXAXIS is the most clever name since PLAYSTATION for Sony IMO. Move is just an everyday word. But whatever, I don't think people will stop calling it Wand or Arc. And in the end it's just a name, so long as the games roll in I'm all happy.

[RememberThe357]

"Arc" fits well with gamers, but might seem a little too strong for the more casual crowd. IMO

[N4BmpS]

More Than likely when people who don't usually look at games and they see the name and the commercial they'll find simple but Catchy, the name aims for the casuals and beginners but everyone else that knows about games, they'll know about everything else(the more hardcore games)

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

they probably had a committee of 15 spend eight hours over the course of a business week discussing the findings of four months of focus groups and consulting before the came up with the name.

[Bren86]

Not a good move

[mushroomwig]

I like it, it's sure going to get gamers moving.

[Nitrowolf2]

i am use to calling it arc already lol

[Biggest]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! Those morons stole Microsoft's little "Like a new system launch" line. Really, dude? Couldn't they come up with something NOT that lame?

Edit: After watching the video. . . I am not surprised. I made fun of the Natal from day one. I made fun of the Move from day one. I am still making fun of both pieces of poop.

Edit #2: And now I feel like a moron. The Gladiator thing looks gotdamned fun. So at least that one won't suck balls.

Edit #3: Move Party? Really? Screw this junk.

Edit #4: They got me with the Socom use. I want Playstation Move.

[The Great Melon]

The more hardcore the games get the more promise I see in the device. I have hope in this move.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Not a SOCOM fan, I might buy the game to try out the controller. I will also dust off my Little Big Planet too.

I want HEAVY RAIN with motion controls, SONY!!

[rucky]

Kinda reminds me of the Nintendo Revolution before they slapped the ridiculous Wii name on it. Might be good luck.

[The Wood]

lol

[SB_tanker]

What kind of name is that?? Move is terrible. Thats just weird to say. 'PlayStation Move'... no thats definitely awkward to say. I like 'Arc' 100x better. 'Motion' would have been a better choice too. At least it has a bit of a ring to it. I dont like 'Move' at all.

[infamousinfolite]

actually if you think about no one liked the name 'Wii' either but soon everyone kinda got used to it just give it a month or two and it will settle in.

[Bravo4]

Move...Hmmmm...Not bad, not bad. I like it!

[Lucreto]

Lol at the moaning. I remember people complaining about how the slim looked.

Move looks good with 1 frame of lag just like the dualshock 3 and a price of less than $100. It seems to be an okay price for it.

I missed the part about the packs but will it contain 2 controllers or just 1?

edit: Subcontroller? I thought the name will be more inventive than that but if it does the job it is fine with me.

[halojunkie]

i love the ps3 move name. i think its better than ark. but teh ark teh ark

[frankymv]

Oh and nintendo says no new console?? BULLSHIT

[beeeffess]

The fact they show off table tennis and golf is worrying.

I want a little more action and games that the wii doesn't already offer.

[The Great Melon]

True, but at least they are doing the ping pong the way I thought the Nintendo tennis game should have been made.

[4pocalyps3]

the fact that they showed anything was good. not sure if natal showcased anything live. but yeah i enjoyed it.

[The Great Melon]

These games apparently are still pre-alpha so I expect a lot of polish before it is released.

[Kakihara]

I'm the opposite to be honest. I've never played any motion control games but always wanted to have motion controlled golf game. I don't even like golf, I just want to feel like a scumbag 80's businessman playing electronic golf in his office while deciding how many employees to fire today.

I just want the fun little minigames and party accessories, I want them to stay the hell out of the hardcore games. I don't want to be pulled out of the atmosphere of Dead space 2 by having to wave around a giant dildo to kill an alien zombie.

[W-k]

more action.. there was a fighting game a gladiator game and socom4,but you have to remember Sony wants the casual too they want to have more family friendly games like lbp and such i think there doing a great job,whats wrong with a little golf and table tennis every now and then,and this is only going to make Nintendo and M$ up there game witch will be great for competition so far i think Sony is head and shoulders above everyone in the motion controller department but every one has a different opinion,props to Sony for a job well done i cant wait for more at E3!!! and i think its great that they make this a option for hardcore games might make some games fun again after you beat it 2 or 3 times :P , and might liven up some shooters,i had no interest in socom4 until now.

[Kakihara]

Is it just me or is anyone else feeling like the tracking doesn't look all that accurate? Especially on that fighting game they just got done showing.

[jdktech2010]

granted, they said it's pre-alpha but I don't see how this is any different than the Wii controller with a bit more precision...it's not that impressive to me and unless Natal just amazes me at E3, I'll pass on that too...I think motion is one possible future but not yet

[Lucreto]

I saw that as well but they are pre-alpha stage so it can be forgiven. I think he just missed a lot as the guy was dodging a lot as well.

[shadow2797]

I think the boxing game had animations that were triggered via movements rather than 1:1. Which is why it lagged a little and didn't always register.

The gladiator demo worked just fine (and looked like a whole lot of fun!). If I get Move, I'll be getting that sports game just for the gladiator game. I'm sure my family will enjoy the other stuff. I hope it has split screen, because that would be epic.

[prodg52]

tracked the player accurately, but the little grey avatar is what's slow not the gameplay.

[THC CELL]

Ohhh baby socom 4 just blew me away

[THC CELL]

Natal is doomed Socom 4 baby

[avengers1978]

Though i don't care for the name i have to admit, socom looked amazing and played very well with the move. I also liked the barbarian fighting match. The move packaged with a hdmi camera, plus the sports champions game all for less then 100 bucks, is a great deal... let's see what Natal can do to counter one to one motion capture and actual game support

[The Killer]

i am very excited for the games of Move!! and Socom 4 with Move?? that will be killing!!

i bet they will patch killzone 2 and battlefield bad company 2 with the Move!!

ow yeah!!! lets Move it baby!!

EDIT

guys am i missing the video? or there is no video? all i see is pictures!!

[Bill Gates]

Move is going to Move so far up you big red asses....AAAAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHHA

[rawd]

Sony just jizzed all over the Wii and Lagtal

[Rockox]

I will be shocked (and a bit disappointed) if Sony doesn't use the Technotronic song "Move That Body" in commercials to sell the Move.

[rawd]

I think Natal is just a trick to get Xbots used to getting off their couch, for all the multi 20+ CD games coming in the next few years.

NEXT XBOX360 EXCLUSIVE, MILO DISC SWAPPING PARTY

ahah

[Rockox]

^ I don't have a problem swapping discs, but I'll admit, that was pretty funny. :P

[Brklynty1]

"Move" aside Wiimote, the bad boys at sony is showing you how its done.
Just the Gladiator games looks sweet. The table tennis also looks good for launch games. Omg the fighter games. OMFG SOCOM4 with month control!!! I'm SOLD!

[The Great Melon]

As many others have wished for, I would love to see an Oblivion game with this kind of control. I want one to one sword control finally.

[Slient Knight 9]

bust a move

[young juice]

truthfully i hope all of the motion controls fail.

get some other company like atari to give the casuals their shovelware.

[Griffmo]

That socom footage didnt look at all stunning with the motion control use...the guy could have used a dual shock and it would have been the same.

[Vegetom]

Just what I thought. He almost didn't move his motion stick at all during the Socom 4 demo.. why not just use the dualshock instead? Everything looked a bit 'meh meh' to me actually. They also let you buy two motion sticks ánd a uhhh playstation move subcontroller to play most of the games.
Another thing.. sometimes it looked like you have to focus really hard to do what you really want because it's that precise, know what I mean? :P

[Biggest]

So when you're moving around or aiming with a normal controller do you whip your thumb around like crazy to achieve maximum precision?

[kingboy]

I though they said these were pre alpha demonstrations,hope u know what that means right

[Greek99]

Im glad Im not the only one that feels that way. Even if I had the motion controller I would still wouldnt play Socom 4 without my dualshock. All the PSmove does is replace the right analogue stick on the dualshock. Thats about it. Not to mention playing online with the motion sensing.....

GDC wasnt all that great this year. They didnt announce anything besides PlayStation Move. PShh....What a disappointment.

[shadow2797]

I imagine it's a bit like using a mouse: More accurate, more intuitive. I also believe he was purposefully moving very little to show how precise Move is.

But you can always play with a DualShock, so don't worry. If it's not your thing, you don't have to use it.

[kissmeimgreek]

hope this isnt a "bad move" for SONY.

[kissmeimgreek]

im lmao since people were calling natal gatal ad lagtal. That video looked pretty laggy to me.

[SUPREME RULER]

it's different, but if people got use to the wii name, people willl get use to this name.

[kissmeimgreek]

yes but the wii was excepted since its purpose was to make it easy to say in all languages, which it succeeded in. the "Move" just sounds like some stupid name to get people to realize that its obviously a otion controller. They could have easily called it the Playstation Motion and people would be happy since it doesnt sound so cheesy...

[A change in the wind]

I was excited, but this was completely underwhelming. Move looked like wii 2, and Socom 4 did not look good at all.

[Fishy Fingers]

Just finished the stream, shouldnt of bothered staying up really (1am now). I knew motion control (Move) was going to be the focus, but hoped they'd have something else on show. Guess I'll have to wait on E3 unless something slips out over the next few days.

Anyway, night all...... (old fashioned) Controllers FTW :) ha

[Hidden Star]

This. Stayed up cause im from the UK. Wasn't worth the wait tbh. Nice periphral, but that's about it.

[jizzyjones]

What a let down, playstation move? poor name, games look like wii games with better graphics. I love playstation but the whole move thing looked much worse than expected. It honestly make wii sports looks amazing.

[jizzyjones]

PS3 it only WANTS to do everything. HOME...wtf MOVE.....wtf 3D....wtf no1 has a 3D tv. Deary me jus giv us summat simple like....ps2 backwards compatability

[jjesso1993]

yeah socom looked like he didnt even use motion but they said got added on on the last second. the fighting game did look good looking forward to this.

[BannedForNineYears]

Thank god they changed the name....
Move>Arc>Gem>Dildo.. .
Impressive development conference.

[abi980]

time to move on sony, just get out of the console business

[infamousinfolite]

Now why you suggest they should do that huh?

[The Killer]

that simple

[PopEmUp]

nah, it's actually time for you to 'move on" and get your head out your @ss

[devsgreat]

lol go look at this...its natal running on a ps2!! (no its not eyetoy) 8:00...lol
wht ms is doing now, sony done like 7 years ago lol

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

well not soo laggy

[mcgrawgamer]

i was not impressed to be honest. I'd love to get some hands on. I'll stay reserved at the moment. A HUGE plus though is I'll be able to double my ps3 as a family console for me and kids would like to see more hardcore stuff for me personally though

[PirateThom]

As expected, pointless.

Casual nonsense, LittleBigPlanet being awesome, fighting game looking broken, SOCOM 4 being the best due to requiring little movement, but getting full advantage of the aim from the controller.

Overall, I wish they'd announced a GT5 release date and shown less motion controls.

[zack61]

I agree.

[ViciousBoston]

DUDE did anyone else catch that Socom 4 has a cover system!? THATS AMAZING.

[Hidden Star]

And the hype begins.

[omimasum]

Wii HD is coming this fall. It's the PS3 + PS Move bundle.

[A change in the wind]

Seriously? WTF was that? As if the wii, I mean "MOVE" wasn`t lame enough, the SOCOM 4 gameplay looked like utter trash. What a slap in the face.

[rezzah]

what they showed was pretty cool, and fun too. What were you expecting? to be able to fly to the moon?

[Convas]

Don't even bother with this guy. He's an all around jackass.

[_vx]

man did u see that gladiator fight FOCK LOOKS SO DAM HOT!!

[SlipperyMooseCakes]

Wasn't for me.

I can see where people that are into this kind of stuff would like it, but I am going to pass. To me it seemed more of a Wii HD than PlayStation doing its own thing. I guess someone could equally say that Natal is a beefed up Eye Toy, and it could be, but we haven't seen it fully demoed with actual retail games yet for the most part.

It's just not for me, a bit disappointing imo. Hope the people that buy it enjoy it.

[mcgrawgamer]

will say this though. sony has definitely put the ball in Nintendo's court from a competitive standpoint.

[omimasum]

2 important questions I have are:
-Will it work in darkness? I can play games in the dark, but I'm assuming the PS Eye, as a camera, likes light? Is that what the ball is for? So it'll work in the dark?
-Will I be able to adjust sensitivity? If I've had a long day and don't really want to jump around to play gladiator, can I adjust my sensitivity so that just a mere twitch of my wrist will swing the entire hammer, etc.?

[Blackcanary]

if you notice that the balls were glowing so it can pick up ur movements.

[NMC2007]

Slave2DController will not be called, Slave2DSubController.

Lulz.

[rexus12345]

Don't like "move" at all. The "under 100" (99) price sounds fair considering its performance but still a little high for casual gamers

[willykyu]

I love PS3, I love the fact we're gonna have a wonderful Wii HD, with hardcore games using PS3mote etc. but, well, how can SONY think they're gonna sell it with such a horrible presentation, with ugly games and underwelming examples... at least, Nintendo shows pretty cute games, immediately nice, even if the technology is pretty limited. Sony must make nicer games.

I'm pretty confident some gems are going to come out, but I think this presentation is a very very bad start. And I'm not excited by Natal at all, which to my eyes is a better Eyetoy, meaning: no feedback, no precision.

I also wonder if this PS move is "shock" proof. I mean, vibrations. I really hope so, for without it, it's far less interesting (like hitting a golf ball, hitting pingpong ball, hitting a shield with a sword etc.).

Well, I hope they can refine what they're gonna show at E3.

PS: I liked the stupid family game though. Simple, but at least the best way to show the accuracy of the device, and augmented reality is excellent.

[thehitman]

Lol we must have been watching 2 diff conferences. Its wii w/ ps3 graphics and more precision. Thats exactly what its suppose to do nothing more nothing less. Thats how the wii should have been and maybe people would actually play it a month after purchase. Also show me a motion control game better than any of those??

[willykyu]

well, I totally agree with you (it's what the Wii should'have been in the first place!), but, nothing sexy in the presentation, and the games were pretty ugly and not appealing. I'm not criticizing the technology, but the look of the content. Nintendo has pretty cute stuff,nice characters, round graphics, with a very limited technology. It's immediately appealing. Their motion control games are tied to AAA games, and they launch Zelda with it. Metroid Prime 3, is a perfect example of what a good motion controller is.
I have all 3 consoles, I like the Wii, but I don't play it a lot, because it lacks AAA games, and my eyes hurt after 30 minutes of gameplay on an 52"HD TV.
I'm totally excited about "move" but what they showed today, while showing the accuracy, was pathetic as a presentation. It's the first time they show it as a final product, they must sell dreams! they must generate excitement.

Also I was expecting far more than more accurate badly copied Wii games.
Natal is nothing more than a better Eyetoy, but they put all they (virtually) had on presentation. The whole internet is crazy.

I think it was lame, and they have to do miles better this E3 to generate interest from everybody (especially haters...).

[StanSmith]

My wii gets as much use as my ps3.

Open your eyes. This is just Sonys answer to tapping into the wii market. It won't work and if you truly believe that the ps3 won't get filled with shovelware like the wii has been then you are mad.

*EDIT* @thehitman below.

Fair enough i can understand your reasons for this but in no means now should any ps3 or 360 fan now be taking a dump on the wii for motion controls. I agree with you that its great for those who only own ps3 or 360 and want motion controls without buying a wii but lets be honest, there will be more shovelware for these then proper games. Also, you should really check out Mario Galaxy if you want graphics with motion controls. That truly is a beautiful looking wii game.

[jizzyjones]

wii sports looked better than any of those games, an im a ps3 bumboy. I agree horrible presentation, awkward an games looked terrible, dont care if the graphics are good. After watchin i was like meh wat was ever wrong with the dualshock3. Pure disappointment.

[prodg52]

This is a DEVELOPERS conference not a public demo. It's purpose is to get developers to use the tech to MAKE "pretty" games using the controller.

[thehitman]

OFC its Sony way into tapping into the wii market they said it themselves lol never denied that but Sony is brining something new to the table with being able to use motion controls w/ hardcore games using the power of the ps3. Reason I didnt buy a wii 1 its not HD(it looks horrible hurts my eyes looking at SD now) and 2 its 200 dollars just to move my hands. I already have a ps3 that can do everything I already want put that w/ this I think this will be really good and I never been excited about any motion controls ever actually before this conference I was like arc FAIL natat Fail etc I even have an eyetoy from ps2 days so I know how it is etc. But I dont know 1 wii game that looks funner than any of those games let alone as pretty. Being able to play socom w/ it may make me buy it ill have to try it out ofc first to test how precise it is and easy to use but the idea, which is what the purpose of the conference has me SOLD COMPLETELY. Only thing can change my mind about Move is trying it out myself and its not fun etc.

[Slient Knight 9]

all about the "move" i guess oh well time for sleep.

oh before i forget .....

[Ikanago]

...is how are you supposed to play with different configurations. Some games seem to require two Moves (sword fighting), some need one (LBP), and some need the subcontroller thing (SOCOM).

It's confusing to me. Does that mean each person needs to have two wands and a subcontroller to play all the games?

[siyrobbo]

could they not have come up with something better than 'sub controller' for the nunchuck thing?

[Ronster316]

1 LAME MINI GAME

$100?

What a rip off, you still have to buy your 2nd dildo (MOVE) & crap like nunchucks ect.

You have been screwed droids.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

Its below $100 if you do not own the PS eye.

the controller with the Nunchuck will most likely cost $40-60

[Anorexorcist]

The starter bundle will include the PS Eye, a game, and the PS Move controller for no more than $100.

Get off the little yellow bus already you f*cking idiot. Let me guess, you think $150 for a new Xbox 360 harddrive is the bargain of the decade, right?

If you really want to see gamers with sore a$$es getting ripped off left and right, look in the mirror and look all around you at the next d*ck-headed Xbot butt buddy awareness event.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

if anyone is interested in getting this controller, get the PS eye now and wait till the fall.

the bundle that below $100 is a great bundle to start though.

they are also bundling the controller, the camera and nunchuck with the console, which is also a great idea.

i think we should expect a GUI update for the XMB later this year for the PS MOVE.

[Brklynty1]

@ Griffmo, yea your kinda right I posted that when he said socom 4 XD I guess the point was to show that hardcore games like that is possible with motion control, think like MW2 with melee attacks and what not. This looks promosing all together.

[Figboy]

Playstation "Move"

or

Playstation "Motion"

i can't find the link though.

Move is appropriate.

[green]

but that was one hell of a lame press conference. Anyway, the Move looks cool but Sony needs to show the Move utilized in games with a control scheme that can not be done with a standard controller or by the other motion devices. Showing an optional $100 device used in situations that can be accurately replicated and in some cases bettered by a standard controller will make consumers look at it as a gimick.Will just have to wait till E3 to make final judgement.

Another issue is the fact that the nunchuk is optional. Selling the move without the nunchuk is a mistake IMO.they should be bundled together.

[Blackcanary]

that wasn't supposed to be a reply gonna retype it.

People expecting more are the one's that will fill let down its GDC i hope people understand what that means.

[So Easy I Can Do It]

gladiator one looked good.

[Griffmo]

I agree. I guess I just expected more. Especially with the promises of "bridging the gap" between the core and casual gamers. No need to jump to any major conclusions yet. It is still early and who knows what e3 has in store?

[unrealgamer58]

socom 4 just killed everything (and if youre not hype with lingo, thats a good thing)

[divideby0]

Move, Natal...just not into this stuff...Our Wii is fine and want to see the next Wii machine anyway.
Just as I thought Natal or motion is not gonna work for shooters...you see how stiff the dude was when playing socom...yea its early but still not impressed and the fighting game, the delay was way to much.
What about the nunchuck

[gumgum99]

Sony, I like the way you "Move" ^_^

lol, I couldn't resist

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Lucreto]

Don't give them any ideas. I don't like that song.

[gumgum99]

lol

[Ronster316]

your boasting that it's under $100?

you do realise that when people say under $100 they mean $99.99 right?

And the only reason that grade F droids like anorexorcist are upset is because they know deep down that this is a rip off.

You still have to buy your 2nd controller and nunchucks ect.

Yet another nice "stealth" money grabbing move from sony.

[Anorexorcist]

I once again reinterate: $150...for a damn Xbox 360 harddrive. Nuff said.

You seriously got some issues kid. You look at that and think it's just as right as rain! All that proverbial MS love juice that was pumped up your butt has now gone into your brain and has turned you into a full-fledged bot. A living, breathing, diaper-soiling bot.

[damnightmare]

Excuse me while I pop your bubbles

$100 and under for all that's included is a great price, wtf are you freaking smoking man?

[kissmeimgreek]

that they cant fathom their Gods at Sony ever trying to rip them off

[RBdrift]

How about you take a good look at that xbox 360 Wireless N Networking Adapter rip off for $100 dollars or how about that rip off 120gb hd that MS sell you for $130 dollars.

[garos82]

u stupid fanboy

OT
i think its still expensive at 100$ it will be more expensive in europe too no doubt.
ill wait and see

[JonnyBigBoss]

This will be big. Motion controllers have been considered casual because of their execution. This controller with change the way we think about motion controllers and gaming integration.

[tunaks1]

"This will be big. Motion controllers have been considered casual because of their execution. This controller with change the way we think about motion controllers and gaming integration."

/facepalm
You clearly have not played Metroid Prime 3, RE4 on the Wii, Sports Resort, hell even Boom Blox, those titles showed how Motion Controls should be done and how when done wipe the floor with traditional gamepads. Please before having an epiphany about motion controls do some research.

[Morbid Bulldozer]

In Leackville there is no Nintendo. Only glorious Sony and eternal praise for anything PS-related.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Are they going to sell it without the camera? I already have an Eye and don't need the whole package.

Now I'm going to mark this post so I can compare the reaction when Natal does it's first real demo. I already feel a double-standard coming on.. I see nobody seems to be bothered by the lag here let's see if everyone is as forgiving of Natal.

[Blackcanary]

they are they be a package where u can buy it with out the Eye.

I'm really happy with what i saw. Since the games they showed was in pre Alpha stage to. Some people here expect to much and when they don't get what they want they moan.

[Blackcanary]

did anyone one else see that game with the Flash light i'm hoping that's a new Fatal frame for the PS3.

I'm even more hyped now i really want it i can wait for more info.

[jack_burt0n]

Yeah people seemed to miss the presentation was called "introducing the motion controller" lol, and complain it was all motion controller.

Table tennis looked sharp as did archery fact that real world skill applies to those shows how satisfying it will be, presentation could have been cooler but it was headed by the marketing guy and he aint great imo.

[Blackcanary]

like someone stated before its called GDC for a reason. Game Developer conference i.e. to give developers a taste of what is to come and to get them on board to make games for it. The stuff people wanted to see will happen at E3 like they stated in the conference.

I really want that Sports champion game, when i had my wii i loved wii sports and i love archery so that's even better. And if its got tennis then boy i'll be a happy moving 25 year old when it's rain i can do my sports thing inside.

I notice that the gladiator game was spot on no lag. That fighting game had a bit of lag i think the movements that u make wont in sync with the game it was like 1 second behind or so. but with it being in pre alpha that's still amazing that they was able show what they did.

Wish i was there to be able to try it out my self.

[Ronster316]

More personal insults from you, very subtle.

I'm taking the p*ss out of sony, not you.

Why do you have to resort to making things "personal" in a console war?

It's cheap. (unlike thirdstation wiimote version 2.0's)

[Anorexorcist]

You are the one with the personal issues. You have absolutely no shred of sense concerning objective, nonpartisan discussions. You are just another delusional idiot fanboy who looks at the situation with only one eye and one ear open.

You're as thick as a brick. You are so full of sh*t that you won't even agree to disagree on anything remotely promising related to the Playstation 3.

[TheGuardianFID]

SOCOM 4 on the MOVE, I like it, sign me up!!! 8)

[StanSmith]

I am truly shocked at the amount of ps3 and 360 fans here hyping natal and move as being amazing whilst all the time since the wii launched, looking down on motion sensing gameplay as "Casual." The double standards of the gaming press are actually very active within the gaming communities it seems.

Anyway, the conference didn't change my mind whatsoever. I still believe that natal and move will do nothing for either companies except allow quick ports of shovelware from the wii. I own wii and ps3 and if i want to play motion controlled games i'll use my wii. My Ps3 is for them truly impressive games like god of war 3 and uncharted as well as a host of multiplatform titles. Granted my wii is mainly for the exclusives on the system but i prefer to use a dualshock on my ps3 for these truly AAA titles.

Anyone else notice that Sony showcased mainly casual games for move???

*EDIT* @ Jack & Jeff

I totally agree with both of you that it is a great alternative to buying a wii if you don't already own one. I am sure Sony will provide great uses for them, it's the third parties that won't.

I am truly shocked though at the amount of people still looking down on the wii here when sony, microsoft and nintendo are just copying one another.

[jack_burt0n]

Yeah i get what your saying but people who have a ps3 or about to get a ps3 now dont have to get a wii, nintendos first party is so small now they dont need to compete with that they are going for the casual crowd but also saying this technology is robust.

but the marketing was pretty shockingly bad as usual by the head of marketing lol.

[Jeff257]

I can see what your saying as well. I for one though still dont have a Wii but i do want one. I havent bought one up to now because frnakly I just dont have the money to support 2 consoles. There are quite a few games I will get for the Wii if I ever do get one but at the same time. I can get a lot of what I would have played on the Wii on my PS3. Granted I cant get Mario, Zelda, or Metroid games but for those I would gladly buy a Wii and will in the future.

[LiquifiedArt]

The Wii taunted 1:1 tracking, but in reality it was ONLY gesture based. And spacial. That is why Wii-Motion Plus exists.

It was a lie from day 1.

[StanSmith]

It does do 1:1 now though with motionplus. Yeah you had to buy an add-on but i don't see how that is different from what sony are doing. After all wasn't the sixaxis supposed to best the wii? Now sony want you to hand over more cash for move.

And as for Nintendo lieing since day 1.....Sony and Microsoft never did this did they? They all lied. Still lie now. You have shown a prime example of the hypocrisy shown by some in the gaming media and communties.

Instead of looking down on Nintendo, you should be thanking them as if not for the wiimote and nunchuck, you wouldn't be seeing this tech at all.

[Jeff257]

I was really impressed by what I saw. From the casual games that was shown to SOCOM 4 I can see what Sony has planned for the future. Like they said they have something for everyone so for all you naysayers out there saying that they are going casual shut your mouths. Sony has always had a wide variety of games. Adding Move just gives us another way to play and can really do something to get more people on the PS3. This really can be a natural extension for people who have a Wii but want something more. They will have that familiarity going from the Wii motion controls to Move. Also Sony showed that they are working on more hardcore titles with SOCOM 4 and the Street Brawler game. Im sure they will have more games in the works and it will be interesting to see what 3rd party studios do for Move as well. Anyway I just see this as a step in the right direction for Sony.

[tunaks1]

Sonys going ca ca casual!
LOL

[Blackcanary]

gone for the casual to ever since they brought the eyetoy for the ps2 and the PS EYE. I see as now there just expanding on it.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

No, not only casual. Why don't you read the articles? Sony already said will have Casual and Hardcore games for Move.

[rezzah]

Natal + Wii controller = Move (which also includes the Eye Toy). Seriously why use one when you can have two? Not only that, but with precise precision.

EDIT: Wii motion controls suck (I rather use that controller they have), and what i like about Natal is that it can implement your entire body on the screen (think back to the vid with the guy danceing).

[Brklynty1]

1. AOTS didn't show the entire conference, because as you can see, when the show returned to it, eyepet just finished.

2. All of these games are WIPs. SOCOM 4 was announced last week and they already have motion control for it. Its not finished yet. That gladiator games looks sweet, I'll admit maybe I was too hype and my 1st post should be ignored XD, but the Move looks promising. That thing is so precise, its crazy. That street fight game can be improved to the point where its a good game.

3. The whole point of the conference was to show off the Moves capabilities when its completed, which it looks like it is. The games are far from being completes and you can be sure they will improve because Sony is probably looking at these comments as we speak XD.

Overall I'd say it was a decent conference just to get us prepared for E3. As for a price point, unless the PS Eye drops its price soon, I can say the Move will be at $45 max, since a DS3 is $54. So for a bundle, hmm I'm guessing $80, and that's good for both periphials and a game. I just want to know if that Sub controller will be included in the bundle as Sony said its a add on.
Conference rating = 7.9

[Ronster316]

There you go again, you can't string a single sentence together without insulting somebody for disliking sony.

If anyone here is as thick as a brick or as bright as a cloudy day its you pal.

You insult microsoft and the 360 time and time again, but when i see your comments i keep it on topic (ie the console wars).

When are you going to learn that personal attacks are not clever?

[Anorexorcist]

How is this not on topic? The bottom line is that you just can't stand to be corrected. I have witnessed you bringing up Xbox 360 games and other PS3 exclusives in forums concerning one particular PS3 title. You certainly don't keep the focus on topic then.

You say I insult Microsoft time and time again? You are in no position to be critiqueing me when you can't even REMOTELY acknowledge anything positive about the Playstation 3 at any time, not just on what had occurred today at the GDC.

You do nothing but insult Sony. I have at least acknowledged the fact that the Xbox 360 has a fair cache of excellent exclusive titles and online services. You claim Sony are ripping off the Playstation audience by releasing the PS Eye, a videogame, and the new controller for $100, yet you have no objections to the ridiculous prices Microsoft is charging it's audience for more arbitrary accessories like a harddrive ($150) and a wireless adaptor ($120).

How can a person like you who refuses to give equal time to both sides of the argument be viewed as anything other than a delusional idiot fanboy? oh is that an insult and not a question? Don't b*tch and nag now, you can't run from the truth your whole life.

[LiquifiedArt]

The fighting game (street fighting) was a gesture system, not a 1:1.
Thats why the gladiator game was vastly different in response.

[Vegetom]

Neither is some kind of bowling game.
Quote form destructoid:
"Right now we're not doing anything that far from a what you'd do in a Wii game. Nick is playing a bowling game now. It's not 1:1 motion, but he says it's in pre-alpha."

[batman2million]

seems like all the games require at least two 'moves' and the bundle is only coming with one?

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

I want that fighting game. I was going to buy it any way because that's what I do, but now I'm looking forward to a game. That changes it. My interest is piqued.

I have to pick up my PSEye from behind my television.

[thehitman]

People complained what if I dont want to come home move my hands and just play Sony added extra value to the controller by making it easy to use it for anygame and fps being a huge market is a HUGE plus.

They added pretty nice looking games I mean those are just beginning games all at early stages of development besides LBP and they looked almost ready to go imagine playing games like someone already stated Oblivion with the sword and shield of Move.(Sony jump all over the next Oblivion game if your reading this :D).

If you dont think that this is better than what natal is offering or even the wii has to offer than you can act like Move doesnt exist because you dont have to use it and obviously motion controls will never change your mind if this hasnt.

[StanSmith]

"imagine playing games like someone already stated Oblivion with the sword and shield of Move.(Sony jump all over the next Oblivion game if your reading this"

This will never happen. Your're jumping the gun like everyone else. Go back and watch the demonstration of the Gladiator game. See how 2 Moves were required? You would need the sub controller to play oblivion which has no motion sensing built in to it. So it is already impossible.

As for that gladiator game, imagine 2 player multiplayer on it. You would need to buy 4 Moves for 2 people?? Thats just stupid. Then you need 2 sub controllers should you want to splitscreen another game. This has already failed. It's going to be for Shovelware except other games (Socom etc) require the sub controller.

Say what you want about the wii, but at least they put motion sensing into the remote and the nunchuck. At the end of the day Motion controllers are still way in their infancy and will never best a good old dualshock/360 pad.

[W-k]

@MARIOFTW ""imagine playing games like someone already stated Oblivion with the sword and shield of Move.(Sony jump all over the next Oblivion game if your reading this"

This will never happen. Your're jumping the gun like everyone else. Go back and watch the demonstration of the Gladiator game. See how 2 Moves were required? You would need the sub controller to play oblivion which has no motion sensing built in to it. So it is already impossible."

actually this could work if you lose the shield and just use a 2 handed sword,or play as a mage,but your right if they dont have any motion control in the Sub then they should add some six axis or some thing,or another one of those balls at the top of the sub controller but WE MUST HAVE a motion Controlled OBLIVION GAME.to have the power of the ps3 and motion controller and not make a oblivion like game for the ps3 to take advantage of the motion controls should be a crime.

*side note if i say motion controller(s) one more time today my head is going to explode,and my mom will need mr clean,to get my goo'ie brain guts off the wall.

[chavafx]

Natal + Wii controller = Move (which also includes the Eye Toy). Seriously why use one when you can have two? Not only that, but with precise precision.

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sorry i did not know that the aye toy has a full motion cature in 3d /Boise recognition of multiple people/and facial recognition of multiple people ..

all i have to s ay is playstation move??? can you move yeah youre arms haha

[ivant]

The Move shows fast accurate responsive aiming with no lag while playing S4.

But KZ2 had weighty, slow aiming for realism. A dilemma for KZ3 if it allows Move controls?

[chavafx]

sorry i did not know that the aye toy has a full motion capture in 3d /Boise recognition of multiple people/and facial recognition of multiple people ..

all i have to s ay is playstation move??? can you move yeah your arms haha

[Silly gameAr]

It's funny seeing you guys get so excited over what the PS2 eye toy could do when it launched.

Just stop.

[Silly gameAr]

I think the Wii and the Move will offer the same experiences, but it's what the Move can do that I haven't seen on the Wii yet that I'm interested in.

Killzone 2 with move support would be cool and Socom 4 with Move support IS cool in my opinion.

From what I can tell, the PS3 could get a bunch of Wii ports, but i'll pass on those because that's what I have the Wii for. I want a unique experience with the Move controller.

That's what I'm looking for.

[1800GETOWNED]

who approves this crap from playstation lifestyle...they suck and they steal articles from other websites.

[Socomer 1979]

Thank you All for Being Here Today.
PSMOVE3DHD.

[bviperz]

I've read other blogs that did hands-on saying this is still pre-alpha and has a chance of tightening the response. Show more new games and how I might use it in older games (KZ2 maybe?) and I'd be set to buy in.

[GrandpaDoakes]

i can imagine controlling the chain/whip with the move

[makacelli]

and ready to move. I must admit at first I wasn't into the whole Sony motion control thing, but seeing the possibilities of what it can do I'm all for it. Take a look into the future with me and imagine the next AAA exclusive game using move. The difference between a Wii game and a ps3 move game will be the ps3 hardware! I have played the Wii a lot but don't own one mainly because most of the games I have played seem to lack any depth. Sure its fun for a while but seems to kind of stale after playing for a while imo. The possibilities are endless. What if one of the games that the makers of GOW 3 are making will use move.....epic! Or maybe I'm just a dreamer, but the tech is there its just up to the developers to take advantage of the power of the ps3 and move together. And for those people worried about having to buy a lot of extra accessories, I think I recall someone from Sony saying that the sixaxis can be used as a substitute for the subremote nunchuck thing. So like I said before l, the possibilities are endless. I wonder if they are going to add patches for existing titles already out to use move? That would be cool (uncharted 2 anyone). I can't wait until E3. Sony is gonna own again this year!

[Henry Cain]

Looked better than milo and that dodgeball game Natal has coming out.

[soren]

why r sony fans exsited? its just an exspensive wii mote o.o ya ppl acting like this is inovation o.- and its far from it y do we need another wii style play type? the thing even looks like a wii mote atleast natal is trying to be diffrent and not replicate nintendos idias whats next 2 screen psp???? yea.... copying needs 2 stop sony is like a good conterfiter lol w.e though thats life and even the games are like wiis 0.-? next is animal walking Crazy life o.-

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

YEAH BABY! YEAH!

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

''Will be sold as a starter kit that comes with a game, controller, and PlayStation Eye for under $100''

Epic Win. Will gain a lot of sales for sure. People was worried about the price.

[hyderide]

meh

[Bassen]

The only problem with the PS Move is the fact that it is not based around the console itself. The Wii is a console where the motion controls are needed to actually play the games. The way i see it, the PS move is not actually needed to play games on the PS3 and i think the PS move wont have a chance against the Wii when it comes to Motion controls in this generation. I mean, how many BIG devolopers will actually create hardcore games for the PS Move? The Wii already have some great titles using its montion controll system, and more coming like the newest Zelda with Motion+. And i honestly dont think the PS Move can match that. However i thought some of the things that were shown was really impressive. But Socom with motion controlls...Nah

[BooBaggins]

Games are more enjoyable with a controller. No need for move or natal. Those are for the fat kids and the weight loss games they will buy. I honestly dont care but its going to make for one of the best E3's to date!!!! I love this competition. Stop sucking MS and SONY's balls.

[jujulolo]

After all the bashing on nintendo for its wii-mote/nunchuck , now that sony copy it, it turns out to be a very good concept.
Only on n4g...

[ikral]

PPl like you,who´s only spittin´ on everything,are commin´ only on N4G,that´s right.

[harpoon3r]

Well he's right, 90% of this site are unsecure PS3 fanboys, so its always funny watching them damage controlling & changing theirs minds like chicks .

[Silly gameAr]

You guys whine soooo damn much about PS3 fanboys. I can't wait until Natal shows some games so maybe you can see that it's not just PS3 fanboys, but 360 fanboys that are just as annoying.

Fanboys calling other fanboys fanboys.

That's only on N4G too...

[bjornbear]

ALWAYS has been, always will

to me i just want a controller

now, if Sony can pull off hard core games successfully with high end graphics and 1:1 precision, i think its a little better than a Wii with SUB-HD quality, and NOT 1:1 precision (or 1:1 precision after a year of launch)

what I can't stand is pathetic little people like you that abstractedly point the finger "baaah 90% fanboys here bahaha i'm not one i'm superior bahahaha"

well, reality check

you are a bigger idiot than all of us =) why?

well...for starters, show me proof that someone bashed the wii is now supporting the move

and secondly, well, your comment is void because people like you (the 10% right?) are always complaining about fanboys, but you are the worst of them all =/ sad people that spend their life projecting their problems onto a bigger crowd hoping to be able to spread your problems onto faceless people.

if you think 90% of the people here are PS3 fanboys that are doing damage control, then why the HELL do you come here? if its so bad...leave =)

[ChickeyCantor]

And people love this name now?
O THE IRONY.

[Kwertie]

It's funny how everyone dissed Nintendo for motion controls, and now Sony has copied it (quite blatantly I might add), it's cool.

Personally, this is the beginning of the end for gaming. Motion control will never be as fast or as accurate as pressing buttons.

[Hot_tea]

I'm pretty light sensitive and waving this thing around with glowing balls on the end of it will bug the sh1t out of me. Especially in low light, which is best for gaming on lcd's.

[Silly gameAr]

Wrong reply. Sorry

[harpoon3r]

It is a total rip-off, stop the damage control please and be honest guys :D

If better games comes out why not ( i have more faith in Natal tough ).

[Silly gameAr]

Of course you do.

[harpoon3r]

why ?

Ah ok cuz im an Xbot .

( lul )

[Silly gameAr]

I didn't say that. You did. I'm not too fond of using silly names like that.

Also, why do you have more faith in Natal? You know something I don't?

[360fanboi]

I'm in line to get one (once I get a ps3) gonna trade in mah 3 X-boxes once they come back from repairs.
Got no problem with the cost. It's rather cheap actually for the quality. Nice how the ball can change into any color, I can see games using that as visual feedback.

I liked how it played on Socom 4, didn't notice any lag.

Like the package as well, at least I won't have to buy the camera and the controller seperately.

Sony stuffed up at the start, at least they seem to be making up for it now.

[Convas]

I was expecting to come on this site and find that the internets had exploded because Sony revealed Killzone 3 in 3D utilizing Sony's "Move".
Socom 4 looked good, but I'm still not sold on this motion stuff.

Now, let's watch Microsoft name their Camera "Turn". LOL

Sony's Move vs Microsoft's Turn. Epic.

[djmindz]

looks cool

[Wh15ky]

That price is not very good at all.

Lets brake it down:
In the UK the PS eye is £25.
The game will quite possibly be a wii play/ wii sports type set of mini games worth around £15-£20. I doubt very much that it will be a full game.
That leaves £25-£30 for the PSmove. That's the similar bundled value of the Wiimote. It will probably cost around £30-£35 when bought separatley, again similar to the Wiimote.

Then there's the nunchuck possibly costing £15-£20, if it's to follow the same pricing structure as nintendos.

I'm quite dissapointed by the pricing. I like at least two of every controller for when friends come round so this will be very expensive:
Starter pack = £70
Additional PSmove = £30-£35
2xNunchucks = £30-£40
TOTAL = £130-£145 or around $200, Ouch!

I was hoping for the PSmove and the nunchuck device to be sold together for the same price as a dualshock 3 (around £35). Instead they seem to be going down nintendos route by selling them separatley at a combined cost of around £50. That may seem reasonable as it has certainly worked for nintendo but the difference here is that we also need to buy the PSeye.
If the PSmove and the nunchuck combined equalled the same price of the dualshock 3 then a PSeye + 2 sets of controllers would cost around £95, thats about the same price of 2 sets of nintendos controllers and the price it should be, IMO.

[solidt12]

This is gonna be great. I have full faith in this controller after seeing the E3 demo, can't say the same thing for the Microsoft Motion controls because they haven't shown much. The PS3 is the new Wii HD Plus. LOL

[galgor]

Looks nice. Just hope it isn't stupidly overpriced.

[solidt12]

Does anyone know when I can buy this?

[Xander756]

I thought their motion controller was called the Sixaxis. So that is obsolete now?

[Rageanitus]

Sony thinking this is the right time to attack the Nintendo Market share.... quite honestly I believe Sony has enough momentum to slowly take over even the market share of xbox in NA.... the storm is coming....

[Rageanitus]

SONY better make all these small games 1080 p.... since the graphics are not expected to have high res polys and textures.