Confirmed : FF13 X360 FMVs run at 576p too

Neogaf has confirmed that the custscenes of the x360 version of FF13 run at 576p . It was confirmed before that the ingame FF13 x360 version ran at 576p days ago.beyond3d has also confirmed the FMV resolution of x360 version to be at 576p.The cutscenes of the ps3 version runs at 1080p,as confirmed by eurogamer's digital foundry division

edit:
The full set of 576p scans with analysis can be found here:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h8kyb8

One analysis chart is here :
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20074288&postcount=3826

edit2:
the scans are proven to 576p by beyond3d tech gurus too. The guy got banned for using provocative words . See other images of x360 versions as well

[godofwar333]

only on X360 LOL

[chidori666]

persons in neo gaf make this comparison in the graphics of ps3 and 360..

look:

ps3:

http://cache.gawkerassets.c...

360:

http://cache.gawkerassets.c...

look the 360 have bad textures beacause of old tech of dvds 9.. :/

[Game13a13y]

LOL, 3 times the discs, half the resolution. Enjoy disc swapping with your prehistoric console using format in the PS2-era. Jump Out

[Bill Gates]

Multiple discs...AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[DelusionalMsBot]

We get the superior PS2 version

POOR droids and their next gen version on one disk

HAHAHAHAHA

[Udidntlistenpunk]

Its over 57.6%!!!

[happy_gilmore]

bots' tv's are not even 480p.

[W831SOLIDSNAKE]

HAHAHAHAHA 576p ridiculous!!! Bu bu bu teh bue RaY no no not neEded HAHAHAHAH

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

That's what need to be done with all XBoXe's

[Mo0eY]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAH

[Mo0eY]

*breathes*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAH

[chaosatom]

HAAAAAAAAAARD!!!

[Antar20]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

...

Hmm...where is Bungie?

[StanLee]

WOW. Never have I witnessed more idiocy than in articles discussing this game. So many things get neglected when fanboys think they've "won" something. It's funny how all the criticisms are being leveled at the XBox 360 hardware but when PS3 ports are terrible, it's "lazy developers". So let's put things in perspective for you fanboy idiots;

1. There are games on the XBox 360 that look better and offer more content than Final Fantasy XIII so whatever inferiorities there are in the port, it has nothing to do with limitations of the XBox 360's hardware. Let's highlight here, the structure, scale and fidelity of Mass Effect 2. A stellar RPG on the console released just weeks ago.

2. Criticisms are constantly leveled at the XBox 360 for being responsible for the lack of content in the game but the game was complete on the PS3 and ported to the XBox 360 in less that 4 months. Any content omissions had nothing to do with the XBox 360 hardware. As a matter of fact, they don't even use all the space available on the 3 disc the game comes on.

3. THE GAME WAS PORTED TO THE XBOX 360 IN LESS THAN 4 MONTHS! This is something always omitted in these "discussions". Were you really expecting a comparable port?!

4. Square Enix failed Final Fantasy XIII not the XBox 360's hardware. The game is dated and derivative with every JRPG cliche. The genre is dated and Final Fantasy as a franchise has been mediocre for a while.

5. IT'S A MEDIOCRE GAME. Period. Fullstop. End of story.

[rawd]

6 paragraphs of tears and butthurt. LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

[baum]

I missed you, Nasim.

[darthv72]

Can't wait to get this game and see it for myself.

[God_Of_Epicness]

The XBOX version of the game is responsible for loss content on PS3's version like it or not. The actual planned game would've taken more than 4 dvd's lol. SE wouldn't want one version to be better than the other so it cut out PS3's content because if it didn't and went on with 4 DVD's wouldnt that make FLOPBOX 1.5 look stupid?

[KILLERAPP]

Let the war begin...

[godofwar333]

i feel bad for MS . so much money down the drain

[Mr_Bun]

Apparently, MS didn't spend enough....on the 360 hardware to keep up with this generation, anyways

[zoks310]

The 360 version will look like crap on a HD screen. Sorry for the fools that buy the 360 version.

[Godmars290]

As far as FFXIII is concerned, the war is over. The only thing left is to see if MS can sell more copies of a Sony title with a strangle hold on advertising.

By all counts, that "battle" is already decided too.

[Aquanox]

I don't know if what he says is true or not, but the guy got banned for lying or not proving he owns the game:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[Shadow Flare]

Geez.....the 360 really is the poor man's playstation

[Kain81]

he was banned cause he had the pirated 360 version i believe http://img186.imageshack.us...

this was one of his posts

[EvilBlackCat]

before you go rampage wait for both copies to be released

if you not and everything end up been all B.S. better prepare a apology note to post it here

[godofwar333]

the full set of analysis is found here

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

http://www.sendspace.com/fi... ------576p confirmed

your capture method has nothing to do with internal resolution which will always remain same

@vulcan

blurteam used ps3 captures and bullshots to come at a conclusion that x360 version was 576p ingame

in reality that was debunked by beyond3d. ff13 x360 is 576p for both cutscenes and ingame

as opposed to 1080p for cutscenes on ps3 and 720p ingame

[Montrealien]

I can deal with PS3 exclussives almost all being in 720p, this is not very important since at the very least it will be upscaled to 1080p. And I was taught a very important lesson by many PS3 fans here when refering to PS3 games being at 720p, which is, as long as the game is good, who cares. amirite?

btw, FF13 day one on the PS3 for me!

[rroded]

anyone who owns a ps3 and was anticipating this game needs to know that over half the game was slashed so they could fit it on this 3 disk inferior 360 version. I blame square as much as ms for this nothing but greed.

edit chk out the facts here if your inclined
http://www.siliconera.com/2...

[Montrealien]

Well, one thing is clear here, the PS3 version is the superior version, day 1 on the PS3 for me thank you!

[darx]

It's an average game.

[BeaArthur]

godofwar333...anyone who doesn't own a PS3 too will still get it. Just because one version is going to be better doesn't mean it kills the other.

[ProjectVulcan]

I dont know whats going on here. First Squenix said the gameplay was same as PS3, which is 720p. Then some guy got hold of shots and deduced it was running 1024x576. THEN 'team blur' as they call themselves said no, it DOES run 720P on 360, the previous claim was made from a low quality capture. THEN all of a sudden this 'coincidence' that the cut scenes run 1024 x 576. So......does this mean the gameplay is also actually, most likely the same too and 'team blur' are wrong? Its one hell of a coincidence that the cutscene resolution comes out the same as the claimed gameplay res resolution

[Game13a13y]

i just finished playing my import japanese version, the CGI cutscenes are georgeous, too bad the in-game graphics got gimped by the 360, even demon's soul has better in-game graphics than FF13, which is pretty sad. MS really screwed up this time.

[rroded]

beaucoup mon ami

http://www.siliconera.com/2...

more than enough cut out to make another game....

[Oner]

@ darx ~ Ever ponder that it being "average" may have something to do with the amount of content that had to have been cut because of the constraints SE had to deal with from the 360?

@ rroded ~ LoL! Good info that actually supports what I was saying to darx, Thanx!

[Montrealien]

So what you are suggesting is that if Infamous was on the 360 also, it would only be 5 hours long? The Ps3 truly is the rich man`s 360.

btw, square is known for cutting content in their games, this dates back to the snes days. Your link is nothing more the (enthusiast) popcorn. also, with DLC we should be seeing those areas.

[CYBERSNAKE]

I've got a feeling this is going to be the same for Metal Gear Solid Rising

[FanboysWillHateMe]

You ever think that the deleted content was cut because it didn't flow well with the game?

Content gets edited out of games on a regular basis, ya know. No different than deleted scenes in movies. Oh well, I'm glad you're upset over it. =)

[UltimateIdiot911]

He probably knew that would happen. Think about it, if this news reaches gamer who considered about the 360 version. This might be a reason for them to reconsider. It will affect 360 sales.

[rroded]

you really think a hidden base or a petting zoo woulda taken away from the game let alone actual towns n tons of npc's. Word is the game was going to b a lot less liniar and more open world b4 ms got their claws into it...

think ffvii on steroids rather than this on the rails rpg light we got stuck with.

also did i say anything about any other game? Tho we all know ps3 exclusives leave the 360 in the dust.

edit as for being upset yeh any ff fan should b but thx to the stellar game lineup this year ill get over it pretty fast. More than nough to tide me over till ff13 hits the bargin bin XD

[Montrealien]

If you where correct rroded, we would have a 30hour + campaign spanning accross 10 countries in Uncharted 2, all in the glory of 1080p, zero draw-ins and at a steady 60fps. And lets face it, this Liniar final fantasy crap has been going on since FFX, what was the problem back then? cutting edge DvD storage, or Square?

You are letting your imagine go wild here...for nothing frankly, game content gets cut all the time. This should not be news for an avid gamer. then again, you are not one, you are just another N4G anonymous troll. amirite?

[rroded]

guess it takes one to know one right lol

besides your the only one talking uncharted here

funny how trolls can change the subject so quickly when they cant argue the facts presented.

anyways assuming your also quebecois i hope you get a ps3 so we can play some uncharted2 n settle our differences gamer to gamer ;)

[Kain81]

and iam sure that Kitase said in an Interview long long ago, before the 360 announcement, that Final Fantasy 13 would maybe use a 4 layerd BLU-ray (100GB).

[callahan09]

Some people a couple of comments down were trying to say what the pixel count differential is between 1080p and 576p, and I would have liked to respond to them, but there is no "reply" button because the original comment was deleted by mod. So I'm replying here just to get the factual information out there.

576p = 576x720 = 414,720 pixels
1080p = 1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

2073600/414720 = 5

So 1080p is exactly 5 times the pixel count as 576p.

[himdeel]

...unless you have a PS3 and 360 version of the game up and running at the same time, side by side on two identical TVS, have 2 heads & 4 hands to play both games at the same time.

Play games on your system of choice and STFU :)

[Ravage27]

no one should be surprised. Have we heard anything from SE or MS ever since the 720p vs 576p news first got out?

Then again, the difference between 1080p and 576p cutscene is IMMENSE esp. since it constitutes a huge chunk of the experience...so anyone still thinks Sony was wrong about bluray?

[Montrealien]

RRODed said..

(funny how trolls can change the subject so quickly when they cant argue the facts presented. )

Well, since you are in Quebec I sent you a PM on where you can find me in Montreal and I will gladly discuss this subject with you face to face if you wish. I presented to you facts which you ingored. This is not important, and no one at square has ever said that content was cut due to the storage space problems DvD9s clearly have.

[pixelsword]

I didn't read the digital foundry analysis of FFXIII, so can someone do two things for me:

1. Answer if digital foundry released that information about the 360 version being 576

2. provide a link?

It's not that I'm doubting the findings (okay, a little bit) but if this is true, then why didn't digital foundry reveal this about the 360 version in their analysis?

[Udidntlistenpunk]

PS3 version is FIVE times better than the 360 version.

lol

Yup, Playstation won.

[Noctis Aftermath]

If there is one message Square Enix has been telling people this gen it would have to be that they are willing to sacrifice large amounts of quality for extra amounts of cash.

I think it's disgusting that a former great developer could turn into such a money hungry piece of sh1t.

[we won]

Don't believe this Iron_Sheik made a new account to post BS anybody can fake on Neogaf. Iron_sheik is making the so called proof himself.

LOL Iron_sheik/godofwar333/nasim/t anod/shmee/antan/greywulf/Mooe y takes random pieces of made up BS and posts them as proof. Your agenda is pathetic Nasim.

"Neogaf has confirmed"

You mean some random nut posting BS on the website thinks he has "confirmed it"

[edhe]

Getting Final Fantasy off the ps3 exclusivity is a huge victory for MS.

[Ravage27]

MS is more willing to shell out money on securing exclusive advertising rights rather than use it to persuade SE to put in more efforts for their version. There is just no way MS didn't know about the 576p downgrade, just goes to show how much they really care about their userbase

[Syronicus]

I would never buy a Final Fantasy on the 360. If it were Nintendo or PS then yeah, but never on the 360. I have only known FF to be on the nintendo or PS platforms and it would just feel wrong to play it on the 360. Besides, from the sounds of it, the PS3 version is the version to won if you have both consoles like me so there is no issue here.

[solidt12]

I usually don't care about these things because it may be a difference of just 640p vs 720p but the gap between 576p and 1080p is so huge this can't be ignored. This clearly shows the strength of Blu-Ray which should be the choice for games this gen. I wish Microsoft would of put a HD-DVD player in the 360, it would alleviate alot of problems and even though HD-DVD failed they still could of used it just for games and had the required space. This is a failure by Microsoft. When I got my 360 I thought it had a HD-DVD player because i know how much space HD video takes up and it's an HD system. I felt like I got screwed when I found out it was just DVD.

[vhero]

Wow so not even the cutscenes are HD. I remember when the 360 was first launched and MS made that golden rule that every game had to be at LEAST 720p it was the GOLDEN rule. Until Halo came along at 570p and of course MS rubbished the rule as it was Halo and MS wouldn't stop it releasing on the 360 for anything. Since then devs have been taking advantage of this. MS should really think about telling devs once again 720p or forget about it. But of course devs are too damn lazy and will tell MS to forget about it as the 360 is slowly becoming like the wii a place for lazy devs as its easy to develop for but without the huge fanbase that comes with the wii.

[morganfell]

You can't compare the length of FF13 to the length of a shooter. That is just grasping at straws and one of the weakest efforts to pretend you are not protecting the 360 when really you are doing just that. Besides, Uncharted has MP and co-op.

The 360 is utilizing a last generation disk format and it is responsible for reducing the content on the the PS3 version. Period. These absurd greedy developers are as much to blame for damning the PS3 version as is the 360.

It has become a standard now to attempt to make MP versions the same thus damning the advantages offered by the PS3's next generation features and open development architecture.

And please stop referring to bungie please. He is doubtless here under one of his other accounts. Put him on ignore and be done with it.

[tronz]

"The user jurai got banned because of using the pirated version of x360 ff13.the analysis of 576p resolution for fmvs has been acknowledged by tech gurus of beyond3d as well"

What really happened. godofwar333 a.k.a. (jurai) got banned from neogaf for spamming up neogaf.com with lies and then turned around and lied about the reason on N4G to save face.

The update is self-explanatory

[sikbeta]

The F*CK?

my post was deleted for saying the guy is an @ss#ole for using a Pirated Copy of the Game, I'm Against Piracy like every Person who enjoy Games and PAY for Them...

On-Topic:

Wada, is the Kod!cK of SE, he's destroying the Remains of Squaresoft and the Guy For Money can f*ck up every game he want, FF13 is The PROVE of that, he really don't care about the game and only goes for The money...

Gaming FTW!!!

[rawd]

My comment wasn't even remotely spam. Thanks N4G

[Geriatric Hero]

@ callahan09 - I'm no expert, but I think you got it wrong. 576 is the vertical resolution. The Xbox version of FFXIII is running at 1024x576. If we correct your maths, we get:

576p = 1024x576 = 589,824 pixels
1080p = 1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

2073600/589824 = 3,5

So 1080p is exactly 3.5 times the pixel count of 576p. Not that it's drastically different from your numbers. It still looks pretty bad (the numbers, not the game). I'm just interested to see how MS fanboys are going to spin this one. Especially after what PS3 users had to endure because of Bayonetta.

[Christopher]

This doesn't kill the 360 version at all. Just look at the Ghost Busters video game, which sold more on the PS3 even with the glaring flaws made by the developers compared to the 360 version.

We really need to just wait and see where the masses -- i.e. not us people who read game news most of the time -- put their money. I wouldn't be surprised if it was an almost even split down the line.

[edgeofblade]

I still care surprisingly little. This is the kind of rabid FMV-worship I despise. I have never liked a game that was carried by it's story, ergo I loathe people who stir up flame wars about cutscenes.

[harrisk954]

I can't wait to see how the media completely ignores the quality difference between the PS3 and 360 -- They NEVER ignore it when there is a substandard PS3 port (Bayonetta anyone?)... and you know that Lens of Truth will somehow fail to do a comparison of FFXIII.

[Parapraxis]

"The full set of 576p scans with analysis can be found here:
hxxp://www.sendspace.com/file /h8kyb8"
^ why does that zip file contain an exe?

[DaTruth]

Chill with meeting up to fist fight over this!

@Montreealien: A thirty hour linear campaign with multiplayer is impossible on any format and would just seem too drawn out for the purposes of not getting docked for length! The game of the year with Metacritic of 9.7 doesn't need to do that!

But I'll vouch for Montrealien; He was playing Uncharted 2 two weeks before all of us and I got it day 1!

[Death]

According to your very own "fact source", the additional area were cut because they affected play balance:

"These areas were running in an unreleased build of Final Fantasy XIII, but were cut from the final version due to considerations about game balance and game volume. Kamikokuryou says there is enough lost Final Fantasy XIII content was removed to make another title."

1080p is 1920x1080. 720p is 1280x720. According to the neogaf post the Xbox 360 runs at 576x1024 which appears to be an interlaced signal. The output resolution will be 1152x1024. The only time a progressive signal is a benefit is when frame rate is affected. If the game can run at the same frame rate in 1152x1024 interlaced as it does in progressive 1280x720, then which is better?

-Death

[Darkeyes]

@Pixel sword..

Dude Digital foundry never has done a preview of FF13 360 version... Here are the 2 links of the latest FF13 discussion...

Preview(PS3 version):- http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Latest Article:- http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

In the 2nd article they say "Website Ve3tro.com has reported the NXE hard disk install sizes for each of the three game discs that make up the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII" which clearly means they don't have the 360 version still for comparison....

There have been 3 DF articles about the same.. 2 I have posted and 1 is where DF compares the hardwares and pulls out the verdict if FF13 on 360 will be as good looking as FF13 on PS3 (which sadly I cannot find right now.. BTW PS3 won even then).

So the truth remains DF never really compared the 2 version or got Hands on with FF13 360 version.. The FACT that SE has not denied or commented is enough to solidify the fact that the game is Sub-HD.

[Pika-pie]

Its a shame for the 360 purchasers of this game.

Final Fantasy games are well known for having some of the most memorable prerendered cutscenes ever in gaming and this gen they should be enjoyed in all of their 1080p glory.

[pixelsword]

The links didn't work, it looks like they were cut off when I try to link them, but you get bubbles for your effort.

I wasn't trying to badmouth either version, but to see what exactly was said by Digital Foundry. You provided enough for me to say that DF is full of it; how in the world can they say that the 360 version will look just as good if they don't have the 360 version IN THEIR HANDS?! That's ridiculous to say if you don't have the physical copy in your hands and actually review them. IF you look at FFXIII on a sub-hd television, maybe they won't look any different, but even then I've seen it where lower resolution games/movies show a difference visually on a SDTV. If you don't have the product in your hands, nothing should be said about it; THAT'S true journalism: facts, not supposition, rules the sway of the article. It's just like that 'arc' test where the "reporters" claimed lag, but didn't actually have the arc to verify their lax theory.

They shouldn't have said anything because it gives the apperarance like they slid that in to deceive 360 owners into thinking that there would not be a difference. I even considered purchasing the 360 version based upon hearsay at one time (so my cousin can play FF XIII, seeing he has no PS3), despite all of the inherent advantages the blu-ray has (one-disc, lossless data, confirmed high resolution data); He'll just have to truck-it to my house because I simply cannot trust most game reporters; I'll just have to go on simpler things to judge my purchases between multiplats.

It's stuff like this that makes me (sometimes) wish Eurogamer could get banned when they don't make sense. I actually like some of their technical articles.

[Saaking]

Now it's fully CONFIRMED. The PS3 is at least two-three times more powerful than the 360. Maybe even more.

[Darkeyes]

^^^^ Sorry for the broken links people including you Pixelsword... Here are the 2 working links...

Preview:- http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Latest Article:- http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[darthv72]

If one game runs at higher res than the other, does that really deter in the actual gameplay? Resolution seems to be about the look but not the feel. If both have the same storyline, game play elements, and length from start to finish. What is the real agenda behind this smear campaign?

I have never seen a multiplatform game that has caused a single platform owner to purchase the other platform over. Well...maybe Mortal Kombat on the Genesis/SNES. (blood caused quite a stir in sales back then).

Nasim..err.umm..godofwar333, good effort though. It may be a moot point to those who are getting it for whatever platform they prefer.

[pixelsword]

You're a lifesaver; I'm trying to nail down some things on the computer, and this really helps me.

[rroded]

yep its what they said but much like i dont expect activision to come out and say that they fired the head guys at IW cause they wanted just compensation or creative freedom. Or expect bush to have said they're going into iraq for the oil...

has for fist fighting montrealien lol im a gamer he wants some he can do it online XD
tho he did pm me with a place n time ta "meet" face to face lol
still hasnt added me on psn tho sad how some people can get so bent out of shape over an opinion.

[vilanova]

this game is bad in anyway,put this 1080p in your ass sonyboy,I still think it will leave plenty of room

[John_Dylan]

the EXACT SAME resolution as my Component cabled PS2.

lol cant stop laughing, multiple switch discs with marginally improved 2001 gen graphics.

[Def Warrant]

Somewhere in the world a fanboys just run of a cliff lol. No but seriously this is a sad move by SE. How one developer can be so incompetent is beyond me.

[rawd]

Youtube quality gaming confirmed on 1985 technology. My Grandma still uses CD's

[godofwar333]

and still a few people will buy the x360 version
576p vs 1080p ?? lol 2x the resolution

[DelusionalMsBot]

1080p = 1920 X 1080 = 2073600 pixels

576p = 720×576 = 414720 pixels

1080p is 5 times BETTER res if you do the maths

[Game13a13y]

so that means in order for MS to make an equal version with the PS3, they would be forced to use 15 discs and packaged the game with a shoe box, LOL

[123360]

3 discs at 576p,i,m glad i invested in a ps3 as well.this will become the norm.it seems like only yesterday when eurogamer was doing comparisons from the early third paty games and stating bluray was a no go.thats when i bought my first ps3 uncharted 160gb model and thought have i made a mistake will it just be a first party game here and there from sony.since then its just been exclusive after exclusive with top notch third party games thrown into the mix,the best part though is there just started to warmed up.don,t give me that 3 discs 576p is as enjoyable sh@t that don,t wash with anyone but a fool who has both systems.

[Shaman]

Somebody downloaded pirated version :) hehe

[godofwar333]

so 576p cutscenes remain as 576p

that wont change

[Shaman]

Naww im not saying it wont,im saying that only way he knows that is if he pirated game :)

BTW.This is most embarrassing and lazy developer job since Ghosbusters and Bayonneta.Still gonna play it,but MS surely didnt care about res,stupid stupid MS...

[sikbeta]

I know right.. the guy is just $tupid and now is $tupid and Banned...

Unbelievable

[beardpapa]

well the pirated ff13 has been running around for a week or two now, so it's no doubt people are out there playing it as we read about this article.

[Socomer 1979]

What a Joke!

: )

No wonder some people needed PS3s 24 hour GLitch to be More than Temporary.

[Lirky]

Its not a big deal its going to sell alot in u.s. like the 360 since its the highly popular one than ps3 in some cases im sure the genius gamer/commen sense one would get the ps3 1 blu ray disc nicer quality version over the low quality multi disc which if scratched having to get a refund version.

[Socomer 1979]

Eat it XBUTTS!

Burrrrrrrnnnn!

[godofwar333]

i have become a legend i guess

[va_bank]

We know how you feel. Those of us with one console (PS3) have had our share of $#itty ports. I feel for ya. Times are changing - don't hesitate, go buy a PS3 and not just for FF. Lots of great games.

I really wanted to have an 360 and almost bought one when NG2 came out, but was not willing to deal with RROD. Then Sigma was announced and I bought a second PS3 instead. Have not regretted it. This week's PSN outage was the worst thing that happened in 3 years that I had my PS3. Just get one, you wont be sorry.

[Cernunnos]

576p? B... b... b... BUT DVD IS MORE THAN ENOUGH!!

/s

[i3eyond the Circle]

Been playing this game for the past couple days causing my abscence on these boards.

The cutscenes look great...WTF is this guy talking about.

If you download a FF13 trailer from XBL the cutscenes look no different they are EXACTLY the same.

So if that isn't good enough for you that is your own problem to deal with.

You guys do know GTA4 ran at a subHD res on Ps3 while looking better than the 360 720p right?

These differences are so minuscule once you have the game in your grasp and won't hinder your FF13 experience unless you're really picky and ressurected Galileo from his grave to create you some high powered bifocals.

www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/ videos/.../Final-Fantasy-XIII.h tm

Videos have been here for a while, differences noticeable? Try watching some Ps3 videos then make ur judgement.

[jdktech2010]

Bingo....everyone just complains about the 360 or PS3 because they have nothing better to do in their lives....which is quite sad really

[raztad]

I'm pretty sure the game looks great, a subhd resolution is not that important when you have a good texture work and a good AA applied.

That said your situation is similar when you watch a movie on DVD and it looks great but as soon as you watch it on BD you realize it doesnt look that hot. There are more details and everything looks crisper.

[no_more_trolling]

they need something to feel good about in their boring sh!tty lives
i mean come on, play the damn game and shut up

dont try to ruin it for those who dont own a ps3

[i3eyond the Circle]

There is a fundamental difference between movies and games.

Games are developed using trickery and utilizing console hardware.

They're built on engines that work different across different hardware.

The 360 running at 576p may be true, but the 360 may also possess a hardware strength that makes 576p match the Ps3's 720p.

Unified Shader maybe?

I have a 40'' XBR 4 running at 120hz (Waiting for some easter sales before I upgrade again) I'm about 23hours in and there are no jaggies in the in game scenes or FMV sequences and I am LOVING it.

The soundtrack is amazing and the game has story it is 100s of time better than 12 for sure.

Just get the game....it is pure crack....and the fighting theme never gets old.

[green]

I only have a 360 and i am super excited that i will be playing the game next week wednesday because i have been craving a good traditional JRPG since Lost Odyssey (which i consider to be a FF game in all but name).

People that sit down here and whine over a game being on 3 disks,sub hd blah blah blah must really have empty lives or really nothing to do.The funny thing is that doesw that will play the game on multi disks, with sub-hd resolution are not complaining but does that have the superior version are doing the complaints.

All i here about is "we have so many exclusives so we don't care about multiplats anymore".Okay then, go play WKC, it's an exclusive and must be 10times better graphically thanks to DA CELL with 10times the amount of content than FF13 since it was not supposedly gimped by DVD9.

If you really are trully a fan of Final fantasy then you will not judge until you get the game in your console,devote hours to it then upon completion, you can now judge if it reaches the standards or falls miserably in comparising to it's predecesors.

[Kain81]

...than the 360 version is indeed inferior

PS3
http://cache.gawkerassets.c...

360
http://cache.gawkerassets.c...

[i3eyond the Circle]

Those 360 screens are BS.

The only characters with jaggies are useless NPC's.

The main characters are as smooth as butter.

[Jaybad54]

What are you on about? If the resolution is lower, its lower. The xbox cannot make lower resolution FMVs and gameplay look as good (or better) than their HD counterparts

[rroded]

if your a 360 only owner you get ta enjoy the game. the dif in res shouldnt take away from that. The only thing that makes me mad is that it feels like they held back the ps3 version to b the same. They shoulda included all the content they could fit on b/r and made the 360 version according to its limits.
jus my opinion gamers 1st no matter what hardware we're all here cause we love ta game right.

[Tony-A]

"You guys do know GTA4 ran at a subHD res on Ps3 while looking better than the 360 720p right?"

The PS3 version of GTA IV didn't require 3 discs and compressed audio. It also didn't cut content that was meant to be in there...

[360fanboi]

YEAH!!!
Why go Blu-Ray when you have DVD!!!
Who go DVD when you have CD!!!!
Why go CD when you can have TAPE!!!
Why go TAPE if you can have errr... floppies and punch cards!

Why Buy PS3 when you can have a Atari or a commodore 64!!!

Look at Donkey Kong compared to FFX13, I can't see any difference in graphics!

You ppl are just Fan boys!

[Thoreau]

gta4 was 640p not 576p and it was a port from the 360. go ahead and type what ever makes you feel better. i got both consoles and i am going with the ps3. in fact me2(xbl-heavens boxer) is overated and NOT an rpg. it is more like a shooter with rpg elements(vanguard class=shield regen) stop defending the 360 and step your game up with the ps3.....

[Sarcasm]

"Those 360 screens are BS.

The only characters with jaggies are useless NPC's.

The main characters are as smooth as butter.
"

Snow is a main character...

[Xwow2008]

DVD FTW .
/s

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi_]

...'E3 2008' the ChavBots&ModBots but look what CR*P version they get!!! ;-D CLASSIC!!! ;)

+ After seeing 'Halo Reach' Gameplay today...MAN!!!...the xBox 360 'IS MAXED-OUT'!!! ;-D

[Unicron]

Can we give this a catchy title like Fox news does?

Karma-netta!

Maybe now people will see the experience is the same despite some technical differences? Nah, this is N4G.

[jdktech2010]

but then you would have to be biased towards one viewpoint or it wouldn't work

Then again, I just remember what site this is so it's perfect

[Socomer 1979]

FF13
Halo Reach gameplay Leak

Its like they are stuck with 1996 games of horrid graphics and formula gameplay. I guess if youre a kid you gotta start somewhere am i right? huh? any takers? ah well! 360 is Lameriffic! LMAO!

(Sings)
That old 360 aint what it used to be. Aint what it used to be. Aint what it used to be.

[XerockX]

FACT:
FF SUCKS!
;)

[Raoh]

why spend money to make a high end console.. just pay for marketing.. its pretty much the same thing to its consumers

[DarkSniper]

Another disproportionate and questionable move by Microsoft. Dark Sniper seriously questions their allocation of funds. Instead of taking the correct route and securing their own first party studios to enhance the gaming experience on their console, they waste funds on securing franchises that have jumped the shark.

Final Fantasy XIII is far superior on PlayStation®3 due to it's structure to produce grand scale games. With the Cell Processor and the RSX chips coexisting together to function some of the best titles the world has ever seen, PlayStation®3 gives the gamer the ultimate entertainment value that at one point was only a dream.

Xbox 360 on the other hand is a clunky and trashy device which fails to perform even the most simplest functions. As expected as it is, it's still humiliating for Microslaves to know that even if you squint your eyes, Final Fantasy XIII looks nowhere close to the quality it's PS3 counterpart provides on the television screen.

This is what you wanted Microslaves, now drown in your own humility and misery. Enjoy your inferior copy of Final Fantasy XIII and appreciate your luck. If this game was on the PS2, it would probably produce superior cutscenes and sell more copies than your piss-poor version ever will.

$niper

[Wrathman]

darksniper referring to himself in the 3rd person again.that gets some people put in a padded cell.and judging from his post, he def needs to be.wot a waffle of dung.

the ps3 version gets slightly sharper picture and on 1 disc.BIG WHOOP!

ff13 multi-plat game in favour of ps3.lets make a list of multi-plat games that look better on the ps3...wait that would be a waste of paper.lets count them on 1 hand instead.

jezzzz.you get a multi-plat game that looks better on the ps3 and we have to hear about it for months.like any gives a damn.less time cleaning teeth droids and it wouldnt be a big deal.

get a life

[chidori666]

you are jealous in coment of sniper cuz you are much kid for to understand his comment.

[VINNIEPAZ]

to me I think the spirit of gaming is becoming lost on this newer generation of kids. 90% of articles are just fanboys pledging there dying allegiance to 1 system that the company could really care less about you if you had no money. They just want ya money. You act like they are ya best friend or something. If ya car breaks down you gonna call Sony to come pick you up? Can you people really not afford a PS3 AND a 360 and BE HAPPY to play game on ya system of choice? Gaming is becoming so pathetic that you cant even talk about the fun factor of a game without some dork yelling, "But its teh wins on this system!!!" We need more gamers and less fanboys!!!

[corneliuscrust]

What happened to gamers loving gaming?!?!?!

It turned into a "my investment was clearly a better choice than your investment"

It's all just entertainment. One could have invested in a bowflex and gotten out of their parents' basement.

We are all gamers, and spend a lot of time gaming, why can't we just be happy that we all get such amazing games?

[Tony-A]

Guys, you're both missing a crucial being in the argument.

The Internet.

Back when people "thought" gamers did nothing but play and love gaming, the internet was young and had no real value to gamers. Although the way gamers bought and found interest in games is different, the attitude is generally the same. It's the simple fact that - because of the internet - the opinions of "fanboys" stick out like a sore thumb.

Remember. Fanboys weren't created in 2006. They were created in the early 1990s, when powerful companies and their hardware boasted an "our console is more powerful than yours" mentality, most likely brewed from Nintendo and Sega's big commercial war. From there, fanboys were born and favoritism reigned, but no one really noticed because the medium we know as the internet was simply not prevalent.

[Tricksy]

You talk like its the gamers that BECAM fanbois. Thats not what happened

Microsoft used PR and money to create fanbois out of the people who bought their system. Greenburg and others continues to fan the fires of the console wars and 360 fanbois.

360 fanbois-> aggressive about the 360 being bigger and better

PS3 fans-> retaliate providing facts that prve the PS3 is as good if not better

There is a difference and it starts at the top.

Microsoft-> aggressive marketing, ads and spin campaigns, including Greenburg talking a lot of smack

Sony-> facts about their games and system that make them look good

See what I am saying. It started at a corporate level with Microsoft buying their way into the console market, instead of relying on the merit of their system and games. They used and continue to use PR and money to create an aggressive environment.

You will notice that dynamic even in these comments. The PS3 fans would be happy to have the war stop, if only 360 fanbois would stop the smack talking. Greenburg doesnt, th fans continue it and PS2 fans retaliate and gloat when they are right.

[IHateYouFanboys]

PM
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"360 fanbois-> aggressive about the 360 being bigger and better

PS3 fans-> retaliate providing facts that prve the PS3 is as good if not better

There is a difference and it starts at the top. "

lol

Sony have had fanboys since the original Playstation. they then got the PS2, then when the xbox came out they all just rubbished it because it wasnt a sony console, just like they do to the 360 now.

fanboys go WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Y back to the day that there was more than 1 console at a time - they did NOT start with the 360 lol. although i assume you must be young and that the PS3 is your first console, so you dont know any better. not an excuse though - if you dont know about something, dont try and talk about it and pretend you do.

[Pillville]

http://forum.ecoustics.com/...

Look at the picture and think of playing on an HDTV

PS3 Cutscene: 1080p
PS3 Game: 720p
360 Cutscene & Game: a little above the 480p

that's HUGE.

[Corrwin]

You have issues.

[Biggest]

This is one of those times where witty comments and spin can in no way compare to the sad realization of the truth. I just wish I had urls for all the previous threads before this "confirmation". Some of you look like Kim Yu-Na right now.

[maximus1985]

really though can we get one fanboy, just one at the very least to admit that the 360 is the lower quality one of the 2. its almost like they see the world through different eyes. it just amazes me! for people to even think 360 will outsell ps3 on ff13 sales.

[Wrathman]

im a 360 fan.i can admit that.im not blind.

80% of the 3rd party games look better on the 360..can any sony fans admit that?

[Doc Sony]

Wrathman, I commend you for your honesty but your "80% of multiplats looks better on 360" is a damn lie. In the beginning of the PS3's life cycle maybe, but not anymore.

[mxrider2]

they dont use the cell and port it from the crapbox i admit they look crapier but not b/c they hav to b/c the developers choose to b/c they are lazy

[Master of Unlocking]

sucks to be a Micro$oft supporter these days: no exclusives, inferior multiplats, DLC payed for at the high price that ends up on the competition that didn't pay a cent for it, shut off of part of xboxlive support...and they still have to pay the monthly nickel and dime to the tyrants that make them go through all that.

Well, you people still have an alternative, you know... ;)

PS3: It only does self-resurrection! :D :D :D

[VINNIEPAZ]

Exactly what I'm talking about.......sad

[IHateYouFanboys]

*sigh*

the DLC 'that ends up on the competition that didnt cost them a cent', i assume youre talking about GTAIV? its true, sony didnt pay a cent......but Microsoft PROFITED off that DLC, and 360 owners got to enjoy it 12 months before PS3 owners, so who are the real winners and losers?

Microsoft:
- paid $50 million for DLC. now you might think this is a loss - and when looked at BY ITSELF it is. but then you realise that people have to pay for this DLC, and it looks a whole lot different. as it turns out, Microsoft got the first $50 million back from any sales it made, cancelling out the original $50 mill, and then also got to keep their percentage of the profit above the $50 mill that the DLCs made - and yes, they made well over that $50 mill back. result for microsoft? Winner.

360 fanboys:
- they got the DLC 12 months before PS3 fanboys. Result? Winners.

PS3 fanboys:
- they get the DLC 12 months later, going on 2 years after the games release, and still have to pay for it. Result? Winners cause they finally get to play it, but Losers because 360 fanboys have already played it and completed it 6+ months ago.

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

yeah like most of us people in 2nd & 3rd world countries will enjoy HD graphics in our SD screens!

HD screens are a luxury in these areas

for us it won't matter.

pirated DVDs cost US $2.50 in Hong Kong and Indonesia

[Jdoki]

Big Deal if the 360 version is at 576!! MS are going to market the heck out of this game, and do you really think SE or MS care about the res when they see the cash flowing in?

If you only own a 360 then I doubt you'll care what the res is. Sure some of the extreme 360 fanboys will be butt hurt, and claim some minor advantage over PS3 by any desperate means; but the average gamer is not even going to notice.

How many games have we had this gen that have run at less than 720p and still looked great? Plenty!

But for the record... I'll be getting the PS3 version! :)

[quiddd]

one of the draws is the ability to play comfortably. Something that was touted was, for 360 gamers, was to play up to 30 feet away. That may still be the case but you'll occasionally have to break in the action to change disc 1 to disc 2. Unless you guys don't mind sitting closer to the TV.

But look on the bright side 360ers, your paying $20.00 per disc............like "10 out of 10" $20.00 Deadly Premonition.

[VINNIEPAZ]

And were you bashing the PS1 when FF games had 3-4 disks?

+edit+ To the guy below me. I'm asking WAS IT A PROBLEM BACK THEN? Did you still have fun playing those games?

[Biggest]

Was there some other alternative at the time? I only saw those FF games on one system. And there was only 1 system that could have supported those games. Unless you like a suitcase full of cartridges.

[quiddd]

PS1 + FF - sans wireless tech

[Kain81]

and only FF7 and FF8 no FF9

[Kain81]

at this Time

[Biggest]

@ps360owner09

Console gamers knew to wait for a PC version? People like me, who didn't even have a PC at the time, only had consoles. Not sure why I am countering your weak comment. Let's flip it to mirror right now. There is no PC version. There is a 3 disk DVD version. There is a 1 disk BluRay version. There's the superior version. The 3 DVD version sucks. The 3 disk FFVII version sucks. Happy?

[Biggest]

The PS3 version will have the same game functions as the Xbox360 version. The Xbox360 version has crap graphics in comparison. It also has a crap format. The game itself is the same otherwise. Those "respected" sites have been proven wrong. Actually, since someone else already pointed it out, those respected American sites have been proven wrong.
Someone was sad that he didn't see evidence of people complaining about the 3 disk FFVII on PS. I pointed out the difference between then and now. You tried to counter with something that doesn't fit. But to make it fair, I decided that 3 disks sucks no matter what. That seems fair and logical. Both 3 disk formats suffer from the same drawbacks. The games looks much worse and you have to change physical media twice.

[Biggest]

How were gaming magazines able to review FFXIII without FFXIII? How are people getting banned from websites for having pirated copies of FFXIII without FFXIII? The game is at retailers around the world right now. People have the game. People have compared the games. Just because you don't have it doesn't mean comparisons can't happen. They have it. They compared. One is full HD. Three are SD. And you know what I will say when they start using 3 BluRay disks? 3 disks sucks. And it sucks 3 times as much if there is a better looking and storing alternative.

Edit: And try not to be sad when they release BluRay disks with more layers. They're already making it happen.

[Pennywise]

VINNIEPAZ, congrats for the dumbest comment of the day.

Back in the day we had what we had... CD. It had to be one 3 disks. Today we have alternative that have surpassed DVD. So it IS a problem. One day Bluray won't be enough and we will have to move on with that.

So I guess from your stu--- Er question... We should all be happy listening to our shows on the radio. Or using horses to trot around town since no one was complaining about them when they had to use them.

Technology is ever advancing at a pace we can barely keep up with. Get with the times or get left behind.

@the obviously unbiased guy below me - Blu-ray layers? WTF are you talking about now?

[edoman20]

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

poooooooooooooooooooooooooooo r retards patathic little stupid dumbass bots and its gimped version

GIMP IN, PAY BEYOND

[Socomer 1979]

just forget it bro.
Those guys are stuck in thier closed network prison and on death row.
just pray for em.

[maximus1985]

seriously though its like deep down they must know the truth. i feel like im trying to convince a kkk member and saying "hey open his eyes and let go of racism its 2010 we got a black president now you lost". but (much like 360 fans) he calls me names and doesnt aknowledge anything i say but instead resorts to insults. i cant wait to see the sales charts on ff13.

[mcnablejr]

gf droid's.

[rawd]

sniff

but hey, a 24 hour system glitch is comparable to the whole ongoing RROD fiasco, right?

[MetalGearBear]

576p!!!

only in 360!!!!!!

[The Maxx]

Would a multi console owning achievement whore care more about the achievements in the x360 version or would they say screw the achievements I want the better version for my money and grab the PS3 version?

Any achievement whores in here care to comment?

EDIT - why am I getting disagrees. I just want to know if someone cares more about achievements over resolution. Why are idiots disagreeing with a simple question?

[3dawg]

i doubt you'll get an answer to that. but here's what i think. achievement hunters/whores however you want to call them, don't have time to play 2 systems they don't even have time to think if the game their picking up is worth it, they just want the points. they want to go through games as fast as possible. so if they hunt for achievements then no doubt they will buy/rent the 360 version.

[The Maxx]

EXACTLY!!! Thanks for replying. Not sure why some people found it too hard.

In other words if you like to expand your achievements than resolution means nothing to you. While others who don't care about achievements (which if you own both consoles would be the only reason why you would get the 360 version) would get the game that they feel is better worth their money...and in this case I think FF XIII on the PS3 is the better version for your Money UNLESS you are really dedicated to adding to your achievements.

[360fanboi]

BUT BUT BUT WE HAVE NATAL!

[carreirabr]

Really sad.

[mxrider2]

im sorry you sound like a ratard were you trying to say the bluray version is just as bad like seriously its in 1080p uncrompressed hmm?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

AlexM/Tortella is back! Now using yet another dupe account.

Anyway, don't care. SE suck, JRPG suck and I'm playing a much better game in Mass Effect 2.

[Biggest]

How long IS that game for 360? You and others have been playing it for months now. Did PC get the inferior version and no one told me? I was done with Mass Effect 2 in early February.

[Arksine]

...FFXIII will be too. Fabula Nova Crystallis was one of the primary reasons I purchased my PS3 in 2006 (Along with MGS4 and GOW3). XIII looks like it is going to be a great FF game to me.

Fanboys get way out of hand with all these comparisons...360 fanboys did it with Ghostbusters and Bayonetta, now PS3 fanboys are doing the same thing. I don't think they realize how much alike they are.

[The Maxx]

My first play through took over 20 hours. I did most of side quests as well but there was still more plus I didn't finish all the mining. Also note that I only played through as the Vanguard that i ported to ME2 from ME1....I still have a couple ME1 classes that I need to port over. So 20+ hours times 4+ characters...that right there is over 80 hours.

[Crystallis]

"im a 360 fan.i can admit that.im not blind.

80% of the 3rd party games look better on the 360..can any sony fans admit that?"

80% of those mulitplats are made for the 360 then ported to the ps3. Just think how much better those multiplats would look it they were made just for the ps3. Can 360 fanboys admit that? Plus I wouldnt be to proud just b/c the majority multiplats look slightly better on the 360.

[maximus1985]

also @wrathman
this must be what it feels like to be a politician. porting 360s last gen stuff ofcourse lowers the quality on a next gen thats still pushing towards its potential. why do you think 360 has so many more titles! its already been mastered to its potential limit wheres as the ps3 continues to push its limits. now where seeing more and more titles come out for ps3 so the head start that 360 had is OVER!

[Master of Unlocking]

@ VINNIEPAZ - 7 minutes ago

"Exactly what I'm talking about.......sad "

Right...now, just NOW that the tables have turned, xbox fans are acting like victims, or even (some) are trying to act like grown ups. In the past, whenever this would happen on the PS3, you would have 10000 comments from rabid x360 trolls mocking the other side...but now that they're having a taste of their own medicine, of course, they don't like it and go with that holier-than-though approach, all of a sudden. Delectable. Absolutely and utterly delectable!

ps360owner09 - 3 minutes ago
"People need to stop with this final fantasy 13 xbox 360 hate the game will look fine
1up, gamespot and others have already said the game looks completely identical to the ps3 version during the in game gameplay..."

Exactly like Turok or Bayonetta on the PS3 were pretty much identical to the xbox versions of those games, but back then, strangely, people had to make a mountain out of a mole hill...

Don't come and complain now. Xbox fanboys and all that stupid anglo-saxon media biased towards M$ started all this. Only NOW that it's coming back to bite you in the a$$, of course, you all pretend like nothing ever happened. Right...

PS: and by the way, NO, the PS3 & xbox versions don't look the same. Not with a difference that amounts to double the resolution.

We all told ya, a loooooong time ago: Get a PS3 if you truly wanna know what new gen gaming is all about.

[Dacapn]

It doesn't really matter what your history is at this point. You're arguing the wrong side, and you sound retarded.

We've seen what happens when a game is built for 360 and ported to PS3, and the 360 versions typically win marginally.

Now we get to see what happens when a game is built for PS3 and ported over to 360: a trainwreck. Deal with it.

[Denethor_II]

Feels good to own a PS3 right now!

[Mo0eY]

GimpBox 576p

Edit: Here's the box art for the 360 game: http://img194.imageshack.us...

[Doc Sony]

haha lol, even the 360 FFXIII boxart was made from a screengrab of a youtube vid.

[gtamike123]

Game runs in 576p exclusive to xbox 360.

[ClownBelt]

Oh man..the bots got vastly inferior port from a game that ACTUALLY MATTERS. lol

[SSCOOLCHEA]

There is 480p , 720p and 1080p... only the xbot will make up some ridiculous numbers as that for there fake HD .

[FernandoMartinez]

Well we've known this for some time now, not realy news... People who played both versions already said there is a noticable difference in the graphics, it's not gamebreaking but if you have both consoles you're better off with the PS3 version.

[Enjoi915111]

a good year to dust off the ps3 finally

mag
ff
gow 3
heavy rain

thanks sony

[ExposingLames]

Confirmed: Final Fantasy 13 - 18.3GB Install for Xbox 360

Confirmed: FF13 X360 FMVs run at 576p too

Confirmed: Disc Swapping in 2010

Sometimes words don't even need to be said.

[Gago]

this is one game you have to get on ps3

[jdktech2010]

actually it is available for xbox 360 so I don't HAVE to do anything...this is so stupid, it's unbelievable.

If you have a PS3 or both, get it on PS3. If you have a 360 only, get it for 360. Is it really that hard for people to understand or does everyone just like whining to relive (or in some cases continue living) their high school days

[Whitefox789]

The Dragon Age Origins Console version is superior on PS3 Too :D.

Nah I'm j/k man I don't really care too much about how good games look (I mean if it looks good then great!), All I really care about is the overall experience of it.

[FF13TheHDVersion]

it only does 576p hehe

[abcd]

I don't see differences.

PS3 vs Xbox 360:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[catch]

That is your source? Random Youtube video?... really?

[abcd]

FF XIII is better on ps3 but the difference isn't that big.

And after watched this videos (there is a hd version if you scroll further down the page. ):

http://www.msxbox-world.com...

I don't care about 576p.
FF XIII looks great in both versions.

[Master of Unlocking]

This guy cracks me up, lol :D :D :D
Gotta be more present on N4G, pal, Ha ha

[xaviertooth]

oh dear!
<----

[xaviertooth]

xbox 360 made a historic feat.

[plb]

Glad I purchased a PS3 yesterday :)

[iistuii]

Yawn, id rather watch paint dry. goes back to Bad Company 2...

[plb]

They look good on both versions but obviously ps3 is far superior in both audio and video. There is no getting around that so no point in arguing really. If all you have is a 360 then get it for that. If you have both, PS3 is the obvious choice.

[AllroundGamer]

i'm playing the xbox version right now, and even if i have selected 1080p output resolution on my xbox360, the aliasing is horrible... and the videos sometimes are blurry and pixelated (they just had to use less videobitrate to fit the videos on 3 DVDs) :(

[IHateYouFanboys]

playing it in 1080p would make it look even worse than it would at 720p. there is not a single game in existence that looks better when upscaled than it does in its native resolution, and especially not when going from the reported 576p to 1080p.

[LiquifiedArt]

WITH ALL THE CUT CONTENT.

i'll RECONSIDER, but until then...I can't believe i'm saying this...I'm passing on this Final Fantasy (I have every single FF game). But this is the straw that broke the camels back.

I refuse to support this mutiliation of the Final Fantasy Franchise Any Longer!! I'm pissed!

[Denethor_II]

I to own all available FF's, but can still not help buying this game.

[Thoreau]

ye shall ask and ye shall receive. i am not a 360 fan but i bought one for the 360 exclusives. ff13 should have stayed on the ps3 and now conformation is here.

[maximus1985]

why so much advertising for 360? those poor fools. imma say it like this if you get ff13 on 360 it should only have been because you dont have a ps3, and even then thats no excuse cause really think about it. why after such along wait and who knows how much longer till the next one would you cheat yourself of the richer higher quality experience.

[Thoreau]

that the 360 version was crisper????????

my they typed 360 instead of ps3.

[abcd]

gameplay =/= FMVs

[Dacapn]

360 version=/=PS3 version

It's so hard isn't it? How about we meet halfway?

Bayonetta(360)>Bayonetta(P S3)

[hill71]

only on wii 576

[PoSTedUP]

wow you guys are wild over here haha... im leaving.

[Nathan Drake2]

x360 version should cost 40$.

[Shaman]

Now i know...if pre rendered cut scenes are 576p it has nothing to do with hardware rather with dvd limitation...thats why it was res downgraded,to compress it...It would be better if cgi for game wasnt 32 gb...but this proves that dvd is mistake,considering not every 360 has built in hdd which would ease the problem...

[jalen247]

So true...

[ironmonkey]

yea well blame ms for that part there's no such thing as small games anymore ms says there's no need for bluray well i'm confident to believe that those developers that make games for 360 are disappointed that they cant add more to their games due to limited space its just a matter of admitting it.

[JustTheFactsMr]

Been the case with multi-platform games since Day 1. MS going the cheap route has impacted the industry in a negative way. We all could have had more on every release. Everyone also could have had scratch free media and lossless sound as well.

Wouldn't be so bad if MS hadn't gone on a year long FUD campaign warning people to stay away from that new and likely unreliable Blu-ray technology and how extra space wasn't needed etc.

Just don't fall for it next time around.

[Socomer 1979]

Its like watching The GodFather Trilogy on VHS !

[abcd]

Of couse, PS3 version is better.
But I watched the first 10 minutes of FF XIII (xbox 360 version) and this version looks amazing.

[Whitefox789]

Umm I can't really complain too much about this seeing how in last gen we were playing games in 480p. I mean comparing this to the 1080p res. is very great but.... Overall I just want to see how this game turns out I'm still a little bit iffy about Sheva being a motorcycle.

[Pennywise]

Well with that train of thought.... Pong was in black and white. All games should be in black and white.

We used to ride horses to travel... who needs cars.

Bring back 8 tracks! I listened to music on them once... should be acceptable today.

Instead of medicine, we should just do it the old school was and bleed people out. I mean, come on... it used to be that way... why PROGRESS?

[Whitefox789]

Trust me Pennywise I love progression as much as you do. I just believe we shouldn't be chastising each other over this. Also what was wrong with Pong in Black and White? :D

And hey those horses would save us money on gas! :D

8 Track, I never listened to one so I couldn't really answer that one.

However its like I said earlier I really don't even care if there's a next gen game made all in sprites as long as I enjoy the experience of playing it I'm going to say its a good game.

Now do I believe SE F'ed up on the development of FF 13 that would be a yes. I mean why the hell would they work on the project for the PS3 for two and a half years decide to put it on the 360 thus reworking the entire engine. In my stand point it just wasted time and money.

Though I guess the reason I can't complain about this is because I only have a PS3.

[blackpanther25]

i have not commented in awhile but i had to say that was funniest yet truest thing i have ever read

"Instead of medicine, we should just do it the old school way and bleed people out" - Classic pure classic....im writing that down

[Denethor_II]

mmmmmmmmm this is just yummers:D

[-MD-]

Your receding hairline is just yummers.

[Domer25]

I'm not usually one to care about this sh!t, but this is a significant reduction (if true). I really hope the next metal gear doesn't suffer the same fate; to each their own i guess.

Happy gaming----------

[Denethor_II]

The next Metal Gear will have to fit on a DVD, of course it will be gimmped!

[redsquad]

Guess they had to save the money on the game to pay for those "buy our inferior version pretty please" adverts.

[Master of Unlocking]

@ ps360owner09

My "stupid little tirade", as you say, wasn't directed at you in particular, so calm down,will ya. I was just citing your comment as an example of damage control, and only the two lines below it were meant as a response.

And you have no idea for how long I've been playing video games, and how many systems I've had, and still have. I don't support only sony. I just don't see any reason to support a company that drags all the industry down due to its poor choices, lack of foresight and pure greed, and on top of that treats everybody (competitors, lawgivers,shareholders,custome rs...) like sh!t and behaves like they were royalty. Period.

[baodeus]

If you have both, buy it for the PS3 and if you don't just buy it for what ever console that you have. Period.

@master of unlocking

"I just don't see any reason to support a company that drags ALL the industry down due to its poor choices, lack of foresight and pure greed, and on top of that treats everybody (competitors, lawgivers,shareholders,custome rs...) like sh!t and behaves like they were royalty"

What? So you think Sony doesn't drags all the industry down due to its poor choices, lack of foresight and pure greed, and on top of that treats everybody (competitors, lawgivers,shareholders,custome rs...) like sh!t and behaves like they were royalty?

1. We Sony are very supportive of all game developers:

- Instead of making game on the PC and easily ported to other consoles and see relatively equal performances, developers should make games purely on PS3 architec, which is HIGH TECH and isn't compatible to any other platforms, and u will see some minor differences. Beside, we don't consider other platform next gen and because we say so. Xbox 360 isn't even in 1080P at 120fps, the wii is a gimmick and the PC isn't consider a gaming platform.

- Don't worry about game developement costs, time, advertisements or sells. We are Sony and people will buy it, so don't forget that fact.

- We ensure gamer with the most exclusives. Don't worry, we not monopolyzing the gaming industry when we say we buying up all "AAA" game developers. Don't listen to others when they offer deals for some exclusive on games/DLC contents while still allowing u to make games on other platforms. You will be fine staying exclusives on our PS3 platform.

- We will make PSN beyond level of xbox Live and you gamers don't have to pay a penny. Don't worry about our PSN cost because it requires very little maintenence and our engineering tech can work for long hours without eating; they don't have family to feed either.

I don't know who support game developers more, Sony or MS? You decide.

2. We Sony aren't greedy:

- Do not be concern with the Premium price tag on ours products like TV, CD/DVD/blue-ray player, PSPGo,PS3, etc...because we GUARANTEE to have HIGHEST QUALITY in comparing to any other companies products, hence justify our price. Our Customers will be satisfy with our 1 year warrantee on PS2, PS3, CD/DVD/Blue-ray player, TV, etc...disc read error or sound problems occurring right after our 1 year warrantee are myths so don't believe in them. As you can see, we didn't put out billions of dollars to fix PS2 for Free like M$ did with x360, because we never heard any problems from PS2 owners.

- Don't worry about $30 minidisc movies, because u can watch it on the go with the PSP LCD screen.

- Now u can watch all those old movies that you love on blue-ray, don't worry about it being pricey cause u can watch them all in HD. Really, i mean film back in the day were made digitally in HD?

M$ sure made some sh$ tty business decisions, but $ony isn't better in that department either. You see, M$/$ony or like any other companies, for that matter, are here to do BUSINESS. They aren't charity organizations.

I buy a lot of sony devices like cd/dvd/blue-ray player, TV, PS2 and PS3 thinking they are high quality and guess what, all of them either have disc read error or lost of sounds right after 1 year warrantee. Sony quality just isn't like it used to be. The things that haven't change are the Sony logo, royalty price tag, and their big ego.

[SephireX]

Lol SE have screwed M$. Well you'd want to be a fool not to buy the PS3 version. Or should I say the real and proper version. This title proves the hardware capability differences in both consoles and proves that the PS3 is the console to own.

[jdktech2010]

actually, it doesn't since it's a multiplatform game? I have both consoles but what if I wanted to play Halo or Alan Wake but wasn't as interested in Killzone or Heavy Rain?

People around here deal in absolutes when they shouldn't. The PS3 is a great console and the 360 is great as well and it's about what you want out of your machine. If you want Halo, etc....get a 360 and vice versa.

Believe it or not, you don't have the final opinion on what everyone should buy...maybe in your dream world

[SephireX]

I never said I was deciding what people should buy. I think you suffer with a comprehension disability. I'm simply stating that the PS3 is the console to own imo and FF XIII plays better on it. I'm not telling people to get it on the PS3. I'm simply creating awareness of the fact that it would logically seem the right option to do so if one had both consoles. I have both consoles and enjoy both of them. So I think it is you who are in the dream world. Time to wake up.

[cpt_kaos]

Yep now you know why Sony did'nt even blink when Micro$oft sounded it's horn thinking they had some sort of victory getting final fantasy on to there platform.

Sony already knew the 360 would be the inferior version and micronuts just flushed a ton of a cash down the gutter.

[Dark Collosis]

My friend you are so right its not even funny.. EVERY game thats better on the 360 gets smack talked and blaimed on poor developers. Hell Beyonetta was/is a huge difference in showing 360>PS3, and how could anyone forget GTA4?.. Not to mention ME2 blows this game away yet it doesnt matter. But if your a 360 only owner be glad you even get to play this game on your 360, because it was in all intentions early on a PS3 exclusive.

If i bother playing this game i will just play it on my PS3. No big deal score one for the PS3. Honestly it needs some better multiplatform game ports.

[frankymv]

xbox 720 in fall 2011

GUARANTEED

[Gameplay999]

I believe that the most important thing is that 360 users will be able to play FFXIII as well as PS3 owners, despite them having the lesser version GFX wise, the gameplay is fully intact.
I will be getting the PS3 version since I own both, that is if I even care enough to get it. I am there are some 360-only owners that feel a lesser graphical version of FFXIII is a hell of a lot better than no FFXIII at all.

[bjornbear]

inferior version

[abcd]

FF XIII will run well on xbox 360. Good frame-rate, no slowdowns.

[KrustytheClown]

576 is that even hd? you need 720p to be hd. but oh well.

[bigjclassic]

v_v

[divideby0]

if they did a compare with the audio, there would even be a bigger difference...
we all know that the only ones buying the 360 version are the ones who only own the 360...if you own both you know which version you are gonna buy.
besides the install base of the 360 will bring in good sales...

[macalatus]

My fellow Sony gamers, let us say "thank you" to Microsoft for giving FREE ADVERTISING to Sony! And oh...this is what the 360 dumb kids would be wearing when they line up for their console version on the FFXIII midnight release!

Sony Gamers Lead the Way!

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

That's impossible.

FMV running at 576p? Please, that's a shame for Xbox 360.

[stonecold1]

version swapping dvds are last generation its like 1996 all over better of with hte 1 blu ray disk at least it hd not unlike the other version which is standred def

[gamer7804]

So we are basing our opinions of the final game based on a Pirated Copy?? Tell me why this is even allowed as news on this site?

[GezForce]

to all you xbox only owners out there.. its time to invest in a ps3. Games are only getting larger and im sorry but dvd just doesnt cut it anymore. No more excuses its time to take the plunge.

[DitkaKenobi]

It's STILL going to sell double the amount on the Xbox 360 outside of Japan. Fact of the matter is that Sony lost Final Fantasy as an exclusive. This SHOULD have been a system seller. Instead, it's just another cross platform game that won't entice people into buying a PS3 if they haven't already. So, toot your Sony fanboy horns as loudly as you like. Also, this doesn't prove that the DVD format was a mistake on the 360. It just proves that Square gets carried away with FMV. WAAAAY carried away. MS choosing the DVD format is the very reason they are ahead right now.

[Biggest]

This is soooooooo true. There is nothing wrong with a SD format running on HD peripherals. I mean, you paid $2000 for that LED TV. Screw paying an extra $20 for a BluRay to watch on it. Pay $19.99 instead and boot up the ol' DVD! And what is this mess about HD sound? Doesn't a tape deck boom box make sound? BAM! You do not need BluRay for sound. Get a better imagination. Pretend you're listening to a live band playing your game music. And don't get me started on games. At least we get to play them. You guys act as if FFXIII on the Xbox360 is going to look like a Xbox game.

[jalen247]

Not surprising.

I have been saying for the longest that this game will have trouble running on a 360.

360 can't run a PS3 game that was designed to take advantage of the PS3's architecture, blu-ray disc drive, hard drive, etc.

This just proves what many have said since the beginning.

Square Enix dumbed down the PS3 version and yet the 360 still can't run the game properly the way it was meant to be played. Shame...

This also reconfirms that FF vs XIII won't come to the 360 since its pushing the PS3 more than FF XIII did.

People need to just buy a PS3 and play Final Fantasy XIII the way it was meant to be played.

[jalen247]

FF XIII (360) is gimped in every conceivable category.

I feel sorry for 360 only owners.

My advice...Buy a PS3...its now only $299...and it only does everything.

[NateDPG]

360 is so last gen

[DethWish]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

The only difference is this is progressive? :S
Might as well scrap your hdtv =P

Nvm, this 576p is actually a little bit higher than the sdtv version, because of the 1024 horizontal pixels instead of 720

[NateDPG]

WOW that sucks, 360 obviously doesn't have the power or maybe it's because of the outdated drive

[Claudinho69]

for real, visuals are a big factor of my love for final fantasy games,so having the better version wouldnt even be a option for me

[bison812]

Who cares, RPG's have always been about game play and story. As long as the game provides entertainment then be happy. You guys that post these stories really hurt gaming. I hate the competition between MS and Sony and really its us.

People like this hurt DC and so many other gaming systems and games from the past. Just learn to play and enjoy. Most people need ratings to decide if a game is good SAD

[The Rock Bottom]

I don't do allot of posting here but I've been reading allot of the posts from everyone over the years. With this being said. I notice allot of the pro 360 posters back peddling from their extreme bashing and spinning. Now that the 360 is starting to look bad they wanna play the victim when someone states the facts. After reading all the flame posts these guys have done over the years, it tickles me so. :)

[testerg35]

So I'm guessing 360 fans can't use the PS3 excuse of blaming the developer for a bad port?

Edit: catch, oh ok. Of course when multiplatform games look bad on the PS3, its because the 360 was the lead platform and you're allowed to talk crap about the developer.

[catch]

Not when the 360 is the less capable machine.

[sashimi]

yup, its the developers fault they have to compress compress and then compress some more data and add redundant data to every single dvd.Not only that they also have to reduce the amount of content so they can actually make a profit instead of paying tons of royalties to M$ cause they charge for every extra dvd.Then they also have to deal with no standard Hdd and don't give that BS that its the developers fault cause they've been making xbox games all gen.
Rant over and out

[RELAX]

AND SOO WHAT IF IT RUNS 570P , THE GAME RUNS THE SAMME ON THE SKREEN ,
YOU CAN SEE NO DIFFRENS

[unknownhero1123]

do as your name suggests :)

[ReBurn]

Who really cares? Really? What effect does that have on the story? On the gameplay?

[Absolut_Turkey]

That's the problem when you only own an Xbox. You seem to think you have to sacrifice graphics for gameplay. As a PS3 owner you realize you can have it all. Superior technology FTW!

[ReBurn]

Well I have both PS3 and 360, so it really doesn't make a difference to me. But the point still remains that this is a pretty trivial thing to be arguing over.

[JonnyBigBoss]

So are the PS3's FMVs at 720p?

[PirateThom]

1080p FMV, 720p gameplay

[ReBurn]

So whenever my PS3 switches resolutions and I'm plugged in via HDMI there's always a 1 or 2 second pause while the change from 720p to 1080p happens. I hope that doesn't happen during gameplay. Seems to me that it would make sense to pick a resolution and stick with it.

[Finalfantasykid]

No when you launch the game, the PS3 will default as outputting 1080p, even during gameplay. It will just upscale the graphics to 1080p whenever there is gameplay. So you don't need to worry about the PS3 having to constantly switch between 1080p and 720p.

[Rageanitus]

What is the the native resolution of the ps3 version vs the xbox.

Remember im talking about native resolution no upconversion, because we all know that console games these days do not pump out 1080p native resolution games.

[PirateThom]

PS3 is 1080p FMV, 720p gameplay
360 is 576p

[Rageanitus]

quite a big difference. nice to hear.

But honestly if you have a monitor under 32 inch you wont notice it that mucha diff... but then again most ppl nowadays have bigger monitors

[thehitman]

And i had it long enough that I can EASILY tell the difference when looking at anything lwoer than 720p resolution and anything that supports HD its usually upscaled to 1080i on my screen, so 576 would look pretty bad even upscaled because of the compression and loss of quality.

[JustTheFactsMr]

"because we all know that console games these days do not pump out 1080p native resolution games."

Not true.

PS3 has 40 or more.

~30 of them are full 1920x1080p. They are mostly sports, racing or PSN.

360 has about 5.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

[DigitalAnalog]

-End statement

[Rageanitus]

We all know the resolution in the game play is quite a bit higher, how about the textures.... did the improve that on the ps3 ?

Please no fanboy comments.

[Rageanitus]

Audio, Since alot of the game will also be movies... I sure hell want better sound..... horray for those ps3 owners who own hdmi recievers.... btw they are really not that expensive these days under 500 bucks for a cheapo HDMI reciever.

[thehitman]

Im pretty sure the only way to get best quality sound is through optical cord and not hdmi. I use to hook my ps3 up on my dads surround sound system and man it really immerses you into the game soo much better you hear things like footstep etc background music all from diff angles and it really does make the game feel like its popping out at u sometimes. When I get my own place ill buy a 7.1 system cant imagine how that is like.

[JustTheFactsMr]

Not true. HDMI gets you the best sound - lossless (HD). Optical is lossy (non-HD).

[Rageanitus]

Its the only way i can get lossless sound from my blu-rays.

Optical is not as good ;)

[CobraKai]

MS wanted this game. I don't think they realized it would make them look this bad

[JJFNIGHTS80]

Never heard of that resolution it's either that or they really make it very very tiny pixels on their version. I thought only 720p 1080p are the best resolutions. It looks like PS FFXIII version kicks some ass on this fight here. All the money is being wasted M$ don't even bother trying.

[Dkesh]

I have both ps3 and xbox 360. i like 360 more and both have good games.but when i read articles like this i get pissed off...point is FF13 is on 360, those who have 360 will buy 360 version and no need to get a ps3 to play it...and moreover Mass effect 2 looks better FF13 and its only on 360

[Absolut_Turkey]

Your entire post is filled with opinions, poor spelling, and a lie. Last I checked, Mass Effect 2 was also on PC. Pay attention and learn to spell.

[batman2million]

man. so many angry people!

[ReBurn]

And angry over something that is so trivial. People act as though the game is going to be unplayable because what's in the frame buffer gets upscaled from 576p to 720p. The reality is that in the end nobody is really going to be able to tell, even though they think they can.

I had no idea that resolution is what makes a game enjoyable. No idea at all. But I guess folks will fight over anything.

[horndog]

I still don't undertand why you guys keep bragging about this game like it's the best thing since sliced bread. Noticed why not many bots are in here?? They just don't give a f*ck. This game could run on 480 p and in black and white and many still wouldn't care.

"The xbox is so last gen" say the droids, but yet they fail to notice just how so last decade the FF series are. You guys are the ones stuck playing this crap with no other choice, FF is so last decade boys, the bots have moved on the the new generation in rpg with games like ME2. lol lol lol

Hey guys we also have the choice of FF if we really want to buy it, but nah. Where is your ME2 for ps3?? What oh , you guys don't have that option?? Sorry to hear that.

Remember "FF series is so last last decade", ME2 is where it's at now and this is the year 2010, It's funny how you guys need a bluray player to play a decade old series. lol lol lol.

[Tito08]

I recognize ME as a real great franchise, I'm not a Final Fantasy fan, but look MS is more interested in that Final Fantasy 13, even they went as far as to go to PS based websites to advertise Final Fantasy 13 for their system.... ME2 or FF13(not a fan of either series), IDK which is better(like ME2 more since is shootin n all that, n I only played FF7, 8, and 10 from last 2 gens), but when it comes to $$$$, Microsoft are more interested in Final Fantasy, if FF13 was ever exclusive to 360, it would of pushed more systems than ME2, that's a guarantee!!!!

But we have to wait and see how the 360 version will do despite being an inferior port!!!!

[IHateYouFanboys]

this 'revelation' brings up a few things for me:

1. WTF was square doing? there are PLENTY of better looking games on the 360, on a single disc, that are running in native 720p. its not the 360s hardware, its the programmers.

2. the PS3 version of FFXIII wasnt 'cut down' for the 360. they made the game, THEN looked at how many DVDs it would need - they did NOT say 'ok we have to make it fit on 3 DVDs so lets start cutting stuff'.

3. i really dont care, as i have both a PS3 and 360 so nothing changes for me - if a game i want is multiplatform, i buy the best version. that would be the PS3 in this instance.

4. again, i dont care, as FFXIII is not a game that i have even 1% interest in. its an FMV heavy turn based JRPG - do not want.

5. peoples obsession with FMVs is what caused all this in the first place. if the game used the in-game engine for cutscenes this whole game would fit on a single DVD with room to spare. but because they go the whole hog with FMV, the size balloons out exponentially with every minute of FMV. i personally prefer in-engine cutscenes as it keeps you more drawn in to the game, as everything looks the same across cutscenes and gameplay.

6. PS3 fanboys are loving this, and they have reason to. just like 360 fanboys had every right to love Ghostbusters/Tekken/Bayonetta/ etc being vastly superior graphically on the 360. this is hands down one of the worst cross-platform conversions i think we'll see this generation.

[IHateYouFanboys]

double post

[Omega Zues]

Final Fantasy XIII on the 360 is not even in HD?

' . '

Words fail me.

[360Mirror]

WTF??????

I just upgraded from SD and spent my hard earnt cash on an HD TV so that I can enjoy this game in HD. Now I am told that it cant even achieve at least 720 in-game on my 360 console. What a joke. Maybe the boys at Square should have ran across the road to SEGA HQ who managed to make a superior port for a foreign console. Square you lied to me. Either that or the articles are a bunch of bollocks.
Lost Odyssey is on four disks, double the game length and runs at 720 and still looks beautiful. Is it lazy programming? Or a rushed Port to try and coincide with the Eastern release.
I am pissed off and I will be scouring the net for more authentic reviews to see if it still plays and looks fine even at 576p.

It defeats me how one can take the Mona Lisa and cover it with glazed glass. It just does not make any sense....

[TheObserver]

Resurrecting this argument is worthless. XBOX 360, it is just a battle lost. Fight another day?

[PirateThom]

I think it's safe to say a multiplatform Final Fantasy was a nice experiment, but it's obvious the differences in the consoles just make it impossible.

Should have stayed exclusive, it was at least an event there rather than just another multiplatform game.

[DigitalAnalog]

I guess this exposed the true fanboy in Gamespot who claimed otherwise.

SAD SAD SAD SAD SAD SAD.

-End statement

[axerated]

......this is why i don't care that it went multiplat, very funny square enix, using the extra cash to make ours better lol :P

[theone26]

Makes me wonder what resolution a 360 would run Uncharted 2 in, wii resolution? But seriously Square is nothing but epic fail this gen, they watered down the PS3 version of FFXIII for multiplatform purpose, made a fool out of 360 owners with that 576p bullshit and yet blatantly states both version looked equal. Goes to show much you can trust them.

[Becko]

mmm... it seems that the 360 is a poor machine ... at least when it comes to a FF title

[divideby0]

I am surprised than MS allow this, after all they day and all they marketed to have this game come to the 360, to accept it in this form...kind of surprises me

[bartender64]

You are calling the 360 a less capable machine when you don't know what are you talking about.

Do us a favor PS3 fanboys go and do a little research about both machines architectures and find out what they have in common, apparently theres a lot of things none of you know, or maybe you know it but still want to believe sony BS marketing.

Oh but thats right you are fanboys and you don't want to know the truth, so here let me help you with this, and then come back here saying that the 360 is holding down the PS3.
http://online.wsj.com/artic...

[Cerbus]

You linked an article that was published in 2008. Talk about fail.

[Jaybad54]

Hes just pissed off because he only has a 360, let him whinge

[Midgard228]

get a ps3

[Denethor_II]

I can tell you something not in common concerning the capabilities of the said machines: One can run GOW3, and one can't:D

[Midgard228]

lmao ahhahahahahaha good for ya.

only good for ya for laughin that ps3 lost ff as an exclusive series even tho it started on nintendo, then ya brag about it.

well now ya do have it, that crappy ported 3 disc, compressed sub hd version :3.

im sick of people saying the 360 holds its ground against ps3 in quality when not even one game on 360 runs as smooth or looks as good as uncharted 1. lmao i know because i own one and gears is ugly, very ugly. if thats the best ya got ya need both systems already

[MadMan00]

LMFAO @ the people thinking 360 did ANYHTHING to the way the game turned out...Anyone that says this has no idea what there talking about...Your PS3 fan boys so much worse the 360 fan boys my god this is just pathetic.

I own both systems and WILL be getting it on 360...so yeah f*ck you fan boys.

[PirateThom]

If you own both systems, why would you get the vastly inferior one?

720p gameplay vs 576p gameplay
1080p cutscenes vs 576p cutscenes
1 disc vs 3 discs

You don't have a PS3, you have no choice. No one with a choice will get the 360 version, it makes no sense.

[Midgard228]

lmao u dnt have a ps3 u wish u did, like pirate said y wud u get the one that is worse????

that wud be either extreme fanboyism and stupidity, and ontop of that u just dont have one.

and sadly yes the 360 affected ff13 whether anyone admits it or not.

obviously why else would ffV13 which is ps3 exclusive have far better graphics, and a world map with flying over oceans and mountains annd have towns again.

if ff13 had towns the 360 version wud be 10 disc longs.

just think, ff13 with no towns compressed, 576p = 3 discs on 360

[JustTheFactsMr]

Not sure how anyone could believe that hardware used in the last generation would lead to true next generation games. Defies common sense really.

Small scratch-prone DVD, lossy audio, no standard HDD ( < Xbox), no standard HDMI.

What did you expect? Next gen needs next gen hardware all around. Not major hardware the same (or less) than the Xbox of almost a decade ago.

The 360 had everything to do with the way it turned out. Slow memory, old style architecture and old hardware for key components.

Just like the PS3 has everything to do with the way GOW3, UC2 turn out. Fast memory, new architecture and next gen hardware all around.

Admit it you were duped by the marketing and media propaganda. But instead of admitting your wrong you hate.

Madness.

This is in German and loading really slow right now but this pretty much says it all .. first 10 minutes GOW3.

http://www.4players.de/4pla...