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Still no PS3 interest from Valve

Doug Lombardi tells CVG: "Until we have the ability to get a PS3 team together, until we find the people who want to come to Valve or who are at Valve who want to work on that, I don't really see us moving to that platform.

"We've kind of learned a lesson in that again, if we were customers of that product on PlayStation, we'd feel like we sort of got the stepchild version of the product while the guys on the PC and the 360 got the sweet version of it."

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GWAVE5415d ago

Oh well. It's Valve's loss.

Then again, avoiding the PS3 is a good business move on Valve's behalf, because their DLC games wrapped up and sold as $60 titles would look like rejects from EA Wii's cutting room floor compared to the PS3 games already out on the console.

Stevie Ray Vaughan5415d ago

Classic comments right here.

Half Life 2: Episode 3 coming Exclusive to Xbox 360 in 2010 or 2011. Confirmed.

StanLee5415d ago

I literally spit up my drink reading that comment. Absolute lunacy. Fanboys are so funny; unintentionally or not.

La Chance5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

Why dont PS3 owners just give up begging Valve ?!

And I thought you were all very familiar with PC gaming, so why all the fuss ?

table5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

come on, who plays half life on the 360/ps3 anyway? Valve games just feel at home on the PC with mouse and keyboard controls. I'm not too bothered because I wouldn't play their games on the ps3 even if they did support it. Orange Box on ps3 was utter crap. I played it on the 360 aswell a while ago aswell, it was ok but you can't beat the PC version.

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Raf1k15415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

Really?

That'd be the first bit of info I've heard about HL2:Ep3 in ages. If I remember right, didn't Valve say they'd be releasing an episode around every 18 months or so? (This was way back after the release of HL2 I think)

I'm hoping for it to come sooner rather than later. Been wanting to get my hands on the final episode since the I finished episode 2. Then maybe they can start on HL3 and the second Source engine (if they haven't already).

edit: @ stewgart. you're right about PC thing but wasn't Orange Box on PS3 EA's fault for a crappy port?

@ La Chance. You're making the assumption that every MGS game after rising will also be on 360 which TBH is a pretty large assumption to be making by anyones standards.

edit2: dazzalfc and Greywulf are right in that It's been multi-platform for ages. Plus it's still very possible that there could be another MGS game later that isn't on 360 or even the PS3 like the ones on PSP and iPhone

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dazzalfc5415d ago

MGS has always been a milt-platform title, or did the titles that appeared on Xbox, Gamecube, I-phone, PSP etc etc just pass you by?

Seriously, at least think it through before trying to wind someone up, otherwise you'll just look like a rather stupid pr1ck

Ryudo5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

Waaaahhhh snuff snuff

We don't want Valve games anyway! Honestly am telling the truth!!! I think Valve that have made some of the greatest games in history has no talent!!! Valve is talentless. KillZone 2 Is clearly better then Half Life 2 a Game that got game of year a few years running.

Valve are just big ignorant FANBOYS whine snuff snuff. We ain't interested in there games which eclipse alot PS3 exclusive in sales and quality! Valve are missing out not developing for the PS3 so screw them WHINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

The SDF clearly know better then Valve on making a profit from games and successful formats. I mean LOOK AT VALVE WITH THERE BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY WHAT IDIOTS! They clearly have no clue on how to make a profit in the gaming industry, LOOK AT THEM with there Ferraris and Mansions!!!

If only they wasn't so stupid and developed for the PS3 so they could own there own bloody islands to!!!!! bahHHH!!!!

Man you guys live in a lovely little bubble its funny watching you clearly nearly in tears over this acting like it doesn't matter. BTW Left 4 Dead is an amazing game I bloody love it.

rockleex5415d ago

They don't want to give us a game if its not up to par. If they are truly that scared of the Cell, so be it.

Just look at what happened to the Orange Box. Although it was EA that ported it, with the lack of enthusiasm from Valve towards the PS3, it would have ended up about the same. Then fans would be complaining about all the problems the PS3 version has.

I'd rather NOT get a port if it was shoddy. I save money by not spending it on bad ports, developers don't have to risk losing money on making ports that no one wants.

Of course, this could all be avoided if Valve had any employees who are interested in programming for the Cell architecture. But obviously that's not the case.

TheIneffableBob5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

(Do not read this. I posted in the wrong thread.)

GodGinrai5415d ago

i played half life 2 on 360! i liked it. granted it wont look as good as a high end pc but it looks good on my tv (sony kdl40 D3000). i also preffer control pads to the keyboard/mouse combo. on that note i dont feel like im missing anything by not investing in a fancy card to play it on my 20@lcd in my not too comfortable swivel chair..save for some minor graphic touches. i dont think any 360 owner who played it on a HDTV will disagree. I also enjoy playing private team fortress matches with my clan. they all love orange box too. you asked who enjoys playing this on console...well i can name just over 30 people!

SuperM5415d ago

So they would ditch the PC version then?

Im sorry but PC is and will likely always be the main platform for valve games. Not only do you have superior control on the PC version, but you get better framerate and graphics aswell.

Im totally fine with valve not developing for the PS3, but if they ever stop developing for the PC (which im sure will never happen) that would piss me off.

table5415d ago

thats fair enough its still a good game when playing it on the 360. But the controls just feel suited to the PC. Not just mouse/keyboard I'm talking about the overall feel of the game, the movement and the aiming. Valve have perfected the controls on PC shooters. Half Life 2 just doesn't feel right on consoles. And you don't need a high end PC to appreciate this game.

hermie5415d ago

Good lord man what brought about this outburst? I don't see anyone here whining to the degree at which you are suggesting.

Traveler5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

Valve make some of the best games around, but they are first and foremost PC games. I don't prefer to play PC games on the consoles. Those games play much better and look much better on the PC. I play consoles for the exclusives unique to the consoles, not to play watered down PC games.

That said, PS3 gamers that don't own a gaming PC are being shafted by Valve and that's too bad. Valve should want to get their games out to as many people as they can. Ignoring the PS3 will only hurt them in the long run.

Thugbot1875415d ago

At least they are real about it, they only have the skill and desire to code for the PC or simpler platforms. It's not a big deal when certain developers say they will only code for the PS3 or the Wii so why is it a problem here???

JBaby3435414d ago

I have orange box and have played the games on it and I don't see what PS3 fans are supposedly missing. I can't find a game made by valve that I want or like. Maybe Half-Life was cool when it first came out but I was very honestly not impressed. Portal is better but still not really to my liking. Let me know when they start making something worth having.

njr5414d ago

These guys won't develop for anything that's not similar to a PC, and that's all they should say instead of spewing this anti-PS3 bull around everywhere.

theEnemy5414d ago

without Valve.

Hell we've had an awesome 2 years.

Do you really think it's a loss for us ?

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Keith Olbermann5415d ago

Most ps3 owners dont care. I get my valve games on steam. they are always more superior on the pc anyway.

Black Maverick5415d ago

I wouldn't say that PS3 owners don't care. It's just that they are so many other great games coming out on the PS3, why worry about the few that aren't? It does suck that Valve won't make games for the PS3, but they're comfortable with the 360 and PC since they're so similar and I don't have a problem with that. Just don't pretend that after 3 years of the system being on the market, you didn't have the "ability" to put together a team to make games for it. Just say "We develop exclusively for the PC and Xbox 360" and move on from the PR bullsh*t.

Sangria5415d ago

Sadly not everyone has a PC that can handle any recent game. Mine can't even run Audiosurf in full screen, i can't put anti-aliasing on Painkiller and can't play Team Fortress 2 until i upgrade my graphic card.

Some players bought a PS3 or a 360 because you don't have to upgrade your console constantly, you pay one time for the console and that's all. So yes, there are PS3 owners that would like to play PC games just because they can't afford to have a gamer computer.

In my case, i own both PS3 and 360 so i don't really care about Left4Dead case, but i know many PS3 players would love to get it, but maybe not as much players as on 360 (see the sales differences between Fallout 3 and The Orange Box on both platform).

mrblacknut5415d ago

I love the
"I get my games on PC"
Yet Microsoft still wins.

As if you are causing the company any headaches not getting the console version of any game MS is still smiling to the bank for all you but it ain't exclusive because it is on PC fanboys.

Raf1k15415d ago

you misquoted.

I think you meant 'I get my valve games on steam'.

Plus you're going on the assumption that he was trying to "diss" MS somehow even though as far as I can see, there's nothing in his comment that would suggest that.

He did make a statement about most PS3 owners in general not caring but then he went on to talk about himself.

table5415d ago

Nobody in the right mind cares which company the money is going if its a good game. When ps3 fanboys say that they ae just taking a shot at the 360. Regardless, the PC version is always the superior so I think people should be allowed to say it without getting attacked in the comments for games like Alan Wake for example.

TheIneffableBob5415d ago

@mrblacknut
Many people pirate their operating system so no, Microsoft does not win.

rockleex5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

Its not about avoiding Microsoft.

Its about avoiding bad hardware such as the 360. Its also about avoiding bad business models such as Xbox Live Gold.

Think about it, I can play COD4 online for free on PC and PS3. Why should I have to pay for Gold to play it online on the 360? Just for cross game chat? Not worth it in MY opinion... and many others.

Its also not about which system is "better" than the other. Its actually about which system fits MY preferences better.

But I guess there's no point to speak logically to a fanboy.

poet2155415d ago

forget valve and forget their First Person Shooters. That genre is killing games as a whole.

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Nelson M5415d ago

Hey Gabe you Fat Barney Gumble Looking Creep
Shove it up your Ass Fatty

2FootYard5415d ago

Do you speak on behalf of all PS3 owners?

Sir Ken_Kutaragi5415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

Maybe they should put the PS3 in a BIG PIE and show it
to Gabe'Jabba the Hutt'Newell!!! ;-D

user39158005414d ago

Sorry, but Valve, Activision, EA and many other main developers are saying the same thing the PS3 is sh1t. I have no regrets in selling my BBQ Grill after holding on for good games to come out and 360 has giving me all the pleasure that a great gamer should have, and therefore to hell with sony over-rated garbage.

Only the best entertainment its played on the 360, all the mediocre titles belongs to the wii and PS3.

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sunil5415d ago

Valve finally accepts that they do not have the knowhow / technology to get to work on the PS3 / PS2.

The reason they work on the 360 is because its working is similar to that of the PC (not a bad thing at all)

mrblacknut5415d ago

It isn't the capability of working on the machine. It is the cost in money and manpower to get a PS3 version running whether you are leading or porting to the console. Has nothing to do with talent. More to do with do we want to take the "chance" to invest in a product that may not give us a return investment. Look at previous games sold on the console day and date or a year later (Bioshock says hello)

Raf1k15415d ago (Edited 5415d ago )

I agree about the cost but capability does have something to do with it.

Afterall, a dev who is able to create good games on PS3 will more than likely sell more (therefore see a larger return) on the PS3 than someone who is incapable of creating a good game but still goes ahead with the project anyway.

Edit: Bioshock is a good example of why developers intending on releasing games on multiple platforms should do so simultaniously and not seperate them by a year. I know timed exclusivity tends to be the cause of this but devs should take into consideration that there is likely to be less interest on another platform a year later.

ian725415d ago

I'm not that bothered they aren't making anything for PS3. I'll just buy the game (if any good) on PC.

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Ar Tonelico Qoga: Knell Of Ar Ciel Retro Review – Love Conquers All

Gary Green said: You’ll be forgiven if you haven’t heard of the Ar Tonelico trilogy. The previous two games arrived so late in the PS2’s life-cycle that they simply went unnoticed. While most were tinkering with their shiny new PS3s, Ar Tonelico: Melody of Elemia and Ar Tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica were being ‘returned to sender’ by your local Game stores. Luckily, you won’t need to have played them to understand and appreciate this third and final chapter, Qoga (pronounced k-yoga) tells the story of a racial war between humans and Reyvateils, a breed of biologically produced female cyborgs capable of reproduction, while still having a digital mind.

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Giga_Gaia2d ago

Oh my god. I kinda wish this would get a remaster on PS5, it would be awesome. One of my favorite games on PS3.

That and 3D Dot Game Heroes. It's a shame that some stuff is stuck on PS3.

Knightofelemia2d ago

Ar Tonelico 3 is good I still prefer the first AT game. The music is solid in all the games and Akiko Shikata is a very talented singer bringing life to the game. Only annoying part is well I find is Saki I always choose Finnel or Tyria. KOEI so needs to HD remaster the franchise along with Ar Nosurge and Ciel Nosurge since it never came to North America. I would day one the Ar Toneliceo games and Ar Nosurge if they were remastered.

TheColbertinator2d ago

I still have the limited edition of Qoga unopened. Unfortunately it never went up in value like I had hoped all these years.

Father__Merrin2d ago

Used to own all these quirky JRPG on ps3 good times. Wish I would have kept them all

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Mugen Souls Retro Review – Sexy Demon Space Adventure

Gary Green said: We have a juxtaposition of 2D and 3D visuals, flashy turn-based combat, quirky anime characters with cheeky dialogue with plenty of partial nudity; Yes, this is a Compile Heart JRPG. Whilst the engine is borrowed from Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2, Mugen Souls is more of a Disgaea spin-off. It’s not a strategy RPG as such, it merely sits within Disgaea’s ever-expanding universe (Multiverse? Netherverse? Your guess is as good as mine). You won’t find cameos though, since Mugen Souls is a franchise which aims to stand on its own two feet.

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies3d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken3d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing694d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker4d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing694d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt3d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken3d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.