Editor writes: "The package of maps Killzone 2: Steel and Titanium meets with the mission it is proposed and previously reported to prolong the longevity and maintain some freshness. Two new maps fun and enjoyable, but it has in its price the main enemy and the main question that arises to potential buyers. But at the end of the responsibility to decide whether each is worth paying for two maps almost the same as for a full PSN game."
PSychic Gamers' review for the hit 2009 first person shooter, Killzone 2.
So many things were removed from kz2 that were patched into it from kz3. It's a head scratcher.
huh? go take a look at killzone forums, alpha male has made a near complete list of items from kz2 MIA in kz3.
KZ3 actually has slightly worse graphics than KZ2 because it added the 3D crap feature. There was enough power for that, but NOT enough power to including Online Campaign Co-Op without sacrificing graphics.
lol u dont have HD 108p do you (with HDMi) i can say kz3 looks better but kz2 looks crispier but kz3 looks better ~_@
Barely anything was 'removed' (changed) from KZ2. (tighter turning, tighter reticule on single shot rifle. 2 things.)
And people are high if they think KZ2's graphics were better. The only flaw in KZ3 is the background has aliasing a bit more than it should at times, but techincally is using better AA than KZ2, which used the old method that blurred the screen and made it look lower res. KZ3 is also so much colorful in the right ways while keeping it KZ. So much more detail in the characters, more effects, more everything.
I know, but The_Stacked_Nerd only recently got Killzone 2 - in fact, he only recently got his Playstation - and wanted to review it for our site.
With the release of kz3 kz2 has got more popular check the lobbies theres more people online on kz2 then there was when i got the game a year ago and if killzone 2 is still avalible how is it late? i looked at reviews for it last year a year and a few months after release
Yeah - loads of people are always on. And it lets me move through the ranks quicker!
Great game, it is a shame Black Ops has sold 4 times better than it on its exclusive platform in 4 times less the time, shocking, but true.
Lets blame it on the noobs right? Yeah, this game is noob-unfriendly. Thats the reason
wanted to put 9.4-9.7 but R834 posted it...
Tis a good game - I am going to hopefully plat it next week...
KZ2 online > KZ3 online
KZ3 graphics > KZ2 graphics
KZ3 controls > KZ2 controls
KZ2 difficulty > KZ3
Anything else?
"Psychic Gamer"? I'd expect a site with a name like that to be reviewing KILLZONE 4, not KILLZONE 2... ;)
Playstionunlimited writes: " There is no denying Killzone 2 was THE definitive marque first person shooter when it first arrived on the PlayStation 3. With Graphics to-die-for and rock-solid game play mechanics, the game ultimately lived up to the infamous E3 2005 trailer, and further solidified that the PS3, is in fact, the graphical BEAST that it initially proclaimed itself to be.
Although this game is one that I thoroughly cherish , I couldn't help but to feel that even though Guerrilla took a giant leap from the earliest chapter, that they still did not (and please don't hate me for this :/ ) push the game as far as they can go.
Now, its been almost a year since the release of Killzone 2, and with the recent rumors buzzing around on web about Killzone 3 being released sometime between 2010 – 2011, I felt that it is only fitting to create our own Killzone 3 Wishlist."
My wishlist:
1) Co-op play
Whether it's incorporating singe player, having a whole different side story via Resistance 2, or giving us objective scenarios, Killzone NEEDS a co-op mode. K2 teased us with it, and now it's time to deliver it. They can make great use of the classes from competitive mode or reinvent it all together. Whatever the case, it seems that the competitive multiplayer modes always need a dance partner, and co-op play is just the answer
2) A more fleshed out, serious story
The atmosphere of Killzone 2 was often off-set by the annoying characters. What am I, playing Haze? Kill off Rico.
Better than that, give us a whole new squad to play with. Perhaps a team who aren't a bunch of high-school jock meatheads?
I don't mind comic relief, but Killzone 2's supporting characters were a joke. The bad guys were at least bad, but who the hell makes a mom joke when Radec is about to execute you?
I'm not asking for Team Ico to help us with the story, but can the juvenile characters. Hated them with a passion.
And am I the only one who thinks it would be great to play as/see the side from the Helghast?
THEY are the good guys who lost everything because their fellow species screwed them over. Sure their leader is a maniac, but I hate the ISA.
-Improve on Multiplayer
This is a given, but give us more modes. Killzone 2's multiplayer was unique and great, but pretty standard. 5 common modes, but at least they were intense and fun. Tinker with some new concepts, keep the same great map layouts, etc.
And for the love of God add a party room and tell us how long modes are in a game. I hate joining games where every mode is chosen to last 30 minutes. I mean come on, I dont want to play Capture and Hold for 30 freaking minutes and then go through the rest of the modes. Some people like that, hell I wouldn't mind if I planned ahead, but let me see more match specifications when someone hosts a game.
Match specifications must also be patched to K2 whenever GG gets back from their "break".
Anyways, K2 was pretty good, but now that they got the most important and time consuming parts down, they can work on spending more time and resources on giving us an even better game
I pretty much agree with everything you said, especially killing off rico..
The two things i would love most would be..
A) Something similar to Killstreak rewards in the MP
B) A sort of dual campaign.Example, you play a full 10+ hour campaign as the ISA, thinking the games over you return to the main menu and be greeted with the option to play a whole other 8+ (at least) campaign as the Helgast.
Co-op would be welcome too..
Haha I didn't want to put Killing off Rico, because I didn't know how people would feel about that. I completely agree though
-Kill of Rico, slow and terribly. Make some Helghast Barbarians torture him for information.
-Improve the melee. It's pretty useless in Killzone 2. Hell people make matches with just pistols just to GET the badge, which shows how useless it is. Problem A) Two hits to kill an average player (that is, two hits to kill somebody who isn't an Assault class/is sitting on health packs) I don't mind having to melee someone twice on the front, but smacking someone across the back should be an instant assassination kill.
Problem B) The biggest problem is actually the button mapping for the melee button which leads to point #3:
3) Completely customizable button mapping schemes. My set up has me aiming with L1 and shooting with R1. The biggest problem is melee hits are mapped to R3. This becomes a nuisance when I'm trying to chase somebody while moving and having to press R3 multiple times to ensure a melee kill. I would much rather have customizable button mapping, though the list they provided is not too bad
4) More guns! And not necessarily anything over the top, but make them feel different/have variations! One sniper rifle for both teams makes no sense. I would like guns that had different variations which would mix up the gameplay. Again, nothing over the top, but more variation in guns would be nice.
5) Balance out the classes a little more.
I for one never liked Assault classes because they truly were unbalanced. I mean, I understand he is a heavy but the fact that he was super fast AND overpowered with a rocket ticked me off. Some people don't mind him, and team work usually takes them down, but I felt that the class way exploited for this reason:
He can pretty much suicide without consequence and still manage to get +points.
It pretty much makes dying useless. I think they should have made it so that if you commit suicide, you get an extra long spawn delay. So instead of 7 seconds it would be something like 14 seconds, and every consistent suicide would result in longer spawn times.
This way, the assault class could keep it's extra health and maybe even speed, but people who used the would actually have to be CAREFUL and use strategy.
6) Reduce the amount of damn grenades you can carry. You can carry two from the get-go after you get a badge/ribbon, but after that you can even have three.
I prefer if you start with NO Grenades and have to rely on the Engineer to get two maximum. Grenades were spammed a little too much sometimes.
Or at least give hosts the ability to take out grenades.
7) REPLAY MODE!!!!
Halo 3 came out in freaking 2007 and it was jam packed with awesome features. Replay mode DOES exist on Killzone 2's WEBSITE but it's 2-D and not as exciting/accessible. Give us a theater mode PLEASE!
8) Split Screen
I don't care if you have to sacrifice graphics. If it's for gameplay, then I'm all for it! Split screen would be awesome. I know that "K2 was so full of awesome sauce that even the PS3 couldn't handle split screen" but surely there can be a way to modify that. If we can land an astronaut on the moon (go away conspiracy theorists), then it is possible to have an amazing looking game have split screen.
I even remember talking to Uncharted 2 developers (on Best Buy, they actually have these events) where he said they would have liked to put in split screen but they couldn't. I can forgive Naughty Dog for two reasons:
1) I love them
2) They offered a multiplayer in UC2 to begin with, so I was already super satisfied with UC2
Anyways that's my wish list. Sorry for the wall of text :P
all i want is
4 player co op
better grafix with colors
better multiplayer and map editor
Vehicles in the MP
better SP
and better AI
Downvote him and ignore him
The AI was a magnificent achievement I must say - havent seen anything like it before or after
Replying to 1.1
Please, no killstreak. The reason KZ2 multi was so good is because of the highly tactical element, with continous movement and squads trying to outflank each other and very little camping. I hate CoD's multi, so much camping, all because of killstreaks
The dual campaign idea is brilliant, especially because it would enhance playtime without adding much development cost, and most gamers would love to play both sides. I suspect the majority would prefer the Helghast!
Nice list dude.
Only one i don't like it, the splitscreen.
Why not two PS3 with two games and two 42" Sony Bravia Full HD TV's ;) and connect the two PS3 and you have a nice coop with youre own TV :)
- 2 Primary weapons and a secondary. At least in single-player
- More weapons
- More game modes
- Co-op story
- Co-op mission mode (a la resistance 2)
- Co-op survival mode
- Elimination of "kill lag"
- Elimination of badges
(Badges were cool and all, but I think that if they eliminated them they could do a lot more class-wise. Such as give saboteurs knives, make tacticians spawn points, etc.)
- Die faster...why does everyone absorb bullets like you are shooting paintballs?
- Increase maximum players, but have each map have a limit (again kinda like Resistance 2)
- More mature story, if you are going to get your game rated M, it shouldn't be because it has more curse words than Bad Boys II.
And I think that is it and although it seems like a lot only a few of them are necessary. Others are just icing on top of the cake
no need to improve the melee, regardless of how many hits it takes, you can continuously melee for as long as you want. I get like 30% of my kills each game from melee, so it's not too useless.
i played codmw2 for three hours straight, straight away after completing the game i put on killzone 2, i realised that kz2 controls are a bit clumsy, CODMW2 controls are very easy and the player enjoys and gets satisfied by the controls. in killzone 2 the controls are hard to master, its very hard to kill enemies 1 afterb the other usually we spend shooting more bullets on walls than the actual enemy
The controls are one of the things that make KZ2 great, as you said COD is easy, too easy, which is why it gets boring and unsatisfying very quickly. To get good at KZ2 you need to be good, it takes time and effort and skill, a requirement sadly lacking from MW1 & MW2.
It make me cry two times(maybe because I play kz1 and read the history on killzone.com)
I was more into it
but many of you jst for hating miss the great
experience, Rico is just bad as that's his job
you guys talk about history on games like you
know something stfu
what I agree is to make single player more deep
mode cutscenes longer cutscenes
I didn't feel anything for the characters.
What do you mean Rico's just bad? It's his job to be bad? I'm confused :S
Do you mean he's a bad ass? If so, I disagree, he comes off as a meathead. He reminded me of some frat kid. Compare him to the atmosphre of the game and he just didn't fit. And it's not just him too. If you want bad ass, play God of War or something, but I was certainly annoyed with Rico. I don't recall him exemplifying anything "bad ass", Unless saying the S word and F word count as "bad ass", which I don't think they do.
That's the thing, the dialogue was just forced and they tried to make it look "cool" to 12 year olds.
1) Co-op
2) Bigger variety of enemies
3) Snow Level and as too tall said, a jungle level. Overall, I wanna see more colors in the environments.
4) Replay Mode is a MUST.
5) More engaging characters. I felt NOTHING for the characters except for the part when Garza died. Lets face it, the voice acting was crap with the exception of Sev, Templar, and Visari.
6) Match that infamous E3 2005 trailer graphically
I like how you realize that Rico is supposed to be a single faceted character. Most people are retarted and think "Dur, all characters are should be deep and complex". Rico's job was to be a kill hungry ultranationalist who want's to "get some". In other words, a marine.
If the helghast take the battle to earth we could well see some different and more colourful environments. It would be interesting to see how GG would pull it off graphically.
@walrus - I deeper story with better characters makes the game more engaging regardless of a stereotypical marine. The dialogue and characters made the game feel a bit tacky at some points. I'd love GG to listen to the fans and kill off Rico, it's the outcome we all want to happen in the game.
the big thing about Rico is, although he is supposed to be that way, it doesn't work for me and many others. His behavior is "encouraged" by the remainder of the cast except for Sev. I don't mind some humor and some muscle head marine type characters, but there needs to be a balance which doesn't exist in KZ2.
@stewgart
I'll admit that the dialog did feel tacky at points, so yes I'll give you that. In fact, I want to argue with you, but youre right. THe problem, IMHO, isn't that RICO isn't a multi-faceted character, but that every one of your comrades isn't a multi-faceted character. But, at the same time, GG wasn't aiming to make your fellow marines into characters. The charachter they're developing is the Helghast in general. That is, in fact, the unique thing about Killzone in general (not just KZ@) It's that the character that the story focuses on is in fact the Enemy, and not you. They do an interesting thing by making you go "These guys ar Nazi's. That means there bad" but then, in the end, it's you that turns out to be the biggist A-hole in the building, and the Helghast are really just fighting for survival (in this respect I think they did this better than AVATAR, in which the Smurfs were peace loving hippys and not man enough to punch them back in the face, as the Halghast were. I had no repect for the Navii and really just wanted to see the Humans take some names)
@ShadowRyu: Same thing.
Just know this: Be careful what you wish for; after Gears of War came out we were all like "We want a better plot" (wich I kindof like the plot and Dialog in Gears. the whole "your jut a cog in the gears of war" thing) so they sacked their writers and hired some other one who was like "I'm gonna make in all emotional, Da-hur" which resulted in havin to listen to Dom whine about his wife for half the game, and then panic because you think you might have to go through an escort mission (My brother sighed in relief when dom shot her and we didn't have an ashley tailing around us)
-Jungle level
-Helgahst Campaign
-Rico as a boss
-Different bases to spawn from besides your home base but still keep spawn grenades
-bullet penetration
-more options against bots
Vehicales in MP would be a big undertaking though. It would imo change alot of the online gameplay feel as KZ2 MP is more intimate and more grounded in reality imo. It could be done and the way the author explains it sounds really exciting but it will end up being more like Warhawk than KZ. Offcouse there is no harm in including this plus the same MP as is right now. Having the option is never a bad thing.
For me personally i wan't
1. Offline split screen co-op.
2. I want class based segments similar to KZ1.
3. I want more varied gameplay segements. The mech and turret segement in KZ2 didn't really wow me that much. Perhaps because they were too short.
4. Following from #3 KZ3 will need more OMG! action set pices like Uncahrted 2.
5. Better story that fully leverage the amazing KZ universe story with different takes from different perspective.
6. Get rid of Rico and the god awful mucho crap.
For one reason, players can already run REALLY fast, they can use the super speed class ability, they can run for a REALLY long time, and even when the run meter depletes, it just goes back up really fast.
Unless they slow down the running and make the maps MUCH bigger and balance the amount of indoor and outdoor sections, I wouldn't want vehicles in multiplayer.
Though, it would be interesting. I just worry it would ruin the gameplay.
I wouldn't mind transport vehicles though, but I always get concerned with tanks in games. The only real game where I didn't mind vehicles was Halo.
Actually, I change my mind. As long as maps are balanced for both running and vehicles and as long as the host as the option to add or remove vehicles I'm for it.
As an option its fine. The problem with vehicales imo is that it will require huge maps but then you will also need to have 32 plus players to be of any fun.
If you're looking for the wishlist for MW3, you're in the wrong place.
why should I care about MW3, they can only make it more unbalanced, and they won't be adding dedicated servers again so screw em.
What is wrong with the controls?
The controls is just wonderful, no auto aim, real feedback when you use youre weapon.
MW2 is for nubes how dont know how to play and he whant ez games.
maybe it KZ3 will be better than Gears of War .... don't expect it to arrive until 2025 though ... That's when the PS3 dev's will finally understand the architecture ...
could include different controller lag depending on what size weapon you're holding instead of one general lag for all weapons ...
because controller lag ... that's realism !!!!
how about dropping the grey fade when ur hurt, that annoys me blood wud be better no ??
edit: on the MP the screen greys up bad time wen ya get hit a few times and its hard to diffrentiate team m8s from enemies. just think it wud be a bit better to use the blood stained effect prodominantly.
Great article, and equally great bunch of posts. I really hope the developers at GG read this.
#1 on the wishlist is coop for both killone 3 AND resistance 3. Ofline and preferably online.
Would love to see some class based coop in KZ3 similar to Resistance 2 or UC2.
And a better story, thye just need to tap into the backstory a bit more, few other games have such a fascinating, layered setting as Killzone but most of it is not apparent in the game.
Also, most of the game mechanics are perfect. They nailed most of it perfectly - the AI, multiplayer map design, classes.
I loved kill-zone 2 finished the story and online but even though i've gotten use to the controls I would love it if they could put regular controls because in KZ2 their kind of on the heavy side.
At the end those guys are over run with Helghast ships. so part 3 will come :) I can't wait for it, the best FPS i ever play.
I don't care what they add in the next game. I just want to play it ASAP. Maybe in 2011. And please don't change the controls. That's what makes Killzone what it is.
Now I know most of you guys have only ever read The Hungry Catapillar bookwise and wouldn't get it if it hit you in the face,but Rico is supposed to be the guy who blurs the line between our current views of good and bad.
I didn't like him,but watching him become more and more extreme as he slowly cracks from war fatigue was a first in shooting games.
Very strong, rocket spamming, and dorky boost that you can never shoot.
I'd like to see hardcore modes where if you die you dont come back.
Please make the capture and retrieve less about speed and more about co-op play. The mechanic now is whoever gets it should bolt all the way to the objective. I would rather not know where the enemy has the speaker and set up our defenses so the other team would try to bring in the speaker as they inch forward with their squad. For a game that I consider "hard core" some game mechanics/modes are a far cry.
Snow level please.
I really like the idea of vehicles, spawning in intruders would be awesome. Maybe some huge AT-TE type vehicles, helghast secrets?
Other than the stuff on this list the only other thing I would want would be a party system
I love Killzone2 because it truly is a unique game and the best shooter on PS3 hands down. It seems a lot of what the author wants makes it more of a "me too" game and I don't want that.
No vehicles and leave the player count the same. More doesn't mean better. I did a agree with a more fleshed out story. I went online and read the background and it's really good. It's hard to say who is good and who is bad in this one, both sides are at fault.
The only thing I'd really like in a sequel are more environments. Particularly a forest or jungle. I'd like to see what GG can do with a more advanced engine.
p.s. get rid of Rico. In fact, get Naughty Dog or preferably Ninja Theory (Heavenly Sword) to help with characters you care about.
but wouldn't adding a forest or jungle map make it similar to Crysis or Lost Planet 2? I completely understand what you mean by not making it a "Me too" game. But at the same time, what i wrote is just to add extra modes, options, & abilities, without completely changing what is already there. As my mom always says, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But you can surely innovate so aspects of the game and make things better :)
A better framerate is all I want. I havent played the multi as the 30fps really really grates on me!
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that's Awesome!
Keep the Controls & Involve The Story Co Operatively.
That's all.
- Slower running.
- No health buff on Assault class.
- 40 a side.
- APC vehicles.
- Moveable mounted guns.
- More big maps like Saluman Market,Killzone is the king of street to street fighting,small maps are lame.
i wish they would make the game like renegade anyone here remember that how u had a base and u bought tanks and upgrades solders its was the stuff and with kz2 shooting it would be amazing. only thing i have seen like it since was a half life 2 mod empires which was pretty good. oh and defiantly need 60 people in multiplayer that would be amazing.
Everything was perfect for me, The story was just fine It try to capture the real atmosphere of war. To those you complain about the dialogue about all the cursing, try watching Generation kill its the closest to a real war and also a great show. In war you don't have time for epic moment around every corner or have time to say something epic after each kill or each gunshot a la MW or halo . Its a sh*tstorm out there for god sake, you hesitate you die. The only thing I'd like for KZ3 is the multiple way of playing like KZ1 and the secondary fire on both ISA and Helghast assault rifle the ISA had a grenade launcher on it while the higs had a shotgun those weapons kicked ass in KZ1.
1.Split screen on and offline. They had split screen online in K1. Why go backwards?
2. A different squad minus Rico
I agree with the above poster about no vechicles in K3. It would ruin the feel.
Bungie,you FAIL !!!
better AI??? LOL
everyone who played Killzone 2 knows what I mean
Right on, the AI is unmerciful and unforgiving. This game beats all FPS that have came out this year except borderlands. Borderlands is an open world RPG game with very good things. So those are the top 2 of 2009.
they should have just made it like battlefield and gave they them heavy machine guns and called it a day
wtf what heppen to the weapons' attachments
.double pistols!
.a helgast story mode-elite group to killl sev and RICO!!!
.and how bout some more moving maps!
.replays through out the whole match like uc2
.more unique and a veriety of guns
.more bada** lookin charaters-i love the scouts
.more unique mp modes-all games are the same
.party system
.better melee system
.more user generated content
.more customization
i second the secondary fire. maybe it can be a special attachment for the assault class that way there isn't a class dedicated to just rocket or grenade launchers.
my wish list:
1) better story and narrative. get ND to help out with the campaign as they know how to introduce less known IP's into stardom. when it came to pacing and initiative to do something urgent based on circumstances, uncharted 2 nailed it. (note: get rid of the intel. i hate looking for that crap and it doesn't enhance the story in anyway. if they're going to be in the game, make them more similar to the glyphs in AC2)
2) improve the aiming. even though it isn't too difficult to master the controls, some refinement would be nice. i wish for the controls to be more akin to battlefield and put more emphasis on using your iron sights when shooting since it's more realistic.
2) i guess co-op would be nice but i can live with out it. it has to be special though since i find a lot of co-op game types to be a little boring to be honest.
3) improve the enemy AI and physics. they're already phenomenal as it is, but improving them would just make it better. i would love to see more blood splatter on the walls like in Half life 2 or rainbow six also.
4) more weapons and make each gun feel unique. some guns should have specific attributes for certain players. maybe some guns shoot better from the hip, maybe others shoot better with iron sights. i found myself only using the ISA assault rifle as it fitted my needs for any situation, but i wish i could say the same thing for other guns.
5) a more robust online component. keep the digital chirp, but include visual aid for your actions like in BFBC2. show on your screen how many points you get for certain actions like reviving a teammate or repairing an ammo crate.
more weapons and unlockables and less linear upgrading system. in rainbow six vegas 2, there are three different types of actions you can perform and level up in the game. there are assault, marksmen, and close quarters actions. for an example, if you get headshots or long distance shots, it improves your marksmen level system. once you level up your marksmen class, you unlock weapons specific to that tier such as sniper rifles or other far ranged weapons.
make the maps bigger and cut down on the choke points. i have a hard time playing KZ2 with full 32 players since it's a huge cluster f*** and think bigger maps would be better for not only allowing more space, but maybe introduce some vehicles.
alter and enhance the class system. as cool as the mix and match class system is, it can still be improved on. i don't know what GG would have to do, but i think more abilities to unlock for each class would be cool.
and the last thing i would love personally is for in-game notifications for your actions. instead of viewing your ribbons and medals after a match is done, i would like to see them on screen during gameplay and where my points are being distributed into my player models (the marksmen, close quarters, assault, etc). the little number notification at the top right hand corner doesn't cut it for me. i think it would be cool to also include whether you're on a kill streak or that you revived a whole bunch of teammates just like in BF.
one last thing; make killing people more satisfying. it's already awesome as it is, but find a way to make it feeling more addicting to kill someone.
EDIT: more varied environments. the game still be dark and gritty but i honestly wouldn't mind more colors or a change from scenery. i kind of get tired of the industrialized look. maybe a level on the beach with palm trees or something. i guess i'm saying this because UC2 looks so amazing.
Colors? I see enough colors when i play Killzone 2, what is your point?
But, in a warzone you dont't have any nice weather with nice green forest in another planet ;)
Try not talk bad about Killzone 2 dude, you are so like trojan the way you talk bad about Killzone 2 about more colors.
Furtere more, the AL is just insane, why do you always talk bad in nice words?
they need to keep the cover system in the online it would be so much better thats 1 of the reasons i dont play it to often cause u die al the time u cant get a role going . but i still play it every once and awhile
From Both KZ1 & KZ2.
I miss the Shadow Matshalls and that silenced semi automatic pistol, oh and bring back secondary fire on all weapons like in KZ1...
But it did what it was supposed to do. It set the graphical bar and utilized a unique gameplay experience by being more tactical and a WORKING cover system.
No doubt the only thing left to worry about is more improvements, a better story OH, and bump up the graphical bar please.
**Note: A multiplayer mode with a "Non-High Precision" option would be very VERY highly recommended.
-End statement
They change many things from kz1
and kz2
And kz2 is already epic the way it's
know make killzone3 diferent change everything
like kz1 was diferent from kz2
make sure for kz3 to be very diferent to
and go big perfect everything
Its already been said but i'd like to see a bit more color next round around, maybe bring the fight back to Vekta and give us some lush jungles to trek through or rivers to cross just not more of the industrial look, it looked great but lets move on.
I can't say i agree with the Killstreak bonuses just cause of the mess its created in MW2 but i suppose if they are better fleshed out it might not be so bad.
What i would really like though is the ability to map out your buttons wherever you want, keep the presets in just give me a custom option.
As far as vehicles, so long as its something akin to the BF:Bad Company 2 beta, they would be a great addition but that of course would mean some larger maps as in the aforementioned game.
Being able to use cover in MP would be sweet and i completely agree Rico needs to be put to pasture in the worst way possible. Easily the biggest douche I've had to tag along with, i wanted him dead so bad and was crushed when Radec and Visari failed to do so.
I can't wait for KZ3, it's going to be F'ing E P I C!
destruction everything destructable. i like how the game felt before the updates where it seemed like you were carrying a big gun that was heavy. yeah more open areas too many hall ways in k2
is your name talking about sony because that could be the stupidest name i ever heard of.unless you havent been paying attention to what has been going on around the world since 2006 you would think that a company like ms took a 4.7 billion dollar loss on the recall of the 360. because i look around and i dont see blu-ray becoming the standard and i never read articles about the cell because the cell was a terrible idea. and the games on 360 do look better than games on ps3, and there is a better variety of games on 360. becuase when ms put out the 360 they didnt hold back anything, and since bill gates has so much money he wouldnt possibly put out a crappy product.
becuase you sound like a bot and this is how bots think.
Like most on here I definitely want the following:
- Campaign Coop (split screen), even if it doesn't make sense story wise.
- MP split screen (four players offline with AI bots inclusion & 2 online), doesn't matter if there is degrade in graphics department as it's expected.
- Better integration of vehicle in campaign mode instead of dedicated levels. I liked the tank and robot levels a lot and didn't mind the air turret segment either. I just wished there were more of them.
- More involvement in bigger campaign battles with every type of AI ally and enemy with vehicles and all. I want to feel like I'm really in a war and not some squad corridor shooter.
Otherwise, I'm fine with how MP works and love the changing objectives idea. The one for all people game type works great. Better character develop on Sev wouldn't hurt either. I know he's a soldier and taking orders without questioning is part of the job but allow us to get to know him a bit. All the mamma jokes could've been better spent on other things.
Would love to play as a Helghast would like to see then bring back old characters like Haka and Luger, loved using her weapon in KZ1 and especially dual ability on assault rifles, the grenade launcher and the shotgun.Co-op would be good too
RespawnAction writes: "Why are you watching this years Video Game Awards? Do you even find these awards credible? I personally feel the awards are a bit biased, and I see that as a big problem this year as well. Yes, the winners are picked by us, the gamers, but even then can you really take the awards seriously? I for one am only watching for the debuts, and here is why..."
Ok everyone should be watching it, to give them ratings.....why you ask?
BECAUSE I dont want to wait till GDC for new announcements, we will have announcements each year on Dec. it will be like a mini E3
so support it dammit.
yeah. I kinda agree with the Hype part of his argument. but yeah I always watch the VGAs i like the show and I'm hoping for some Good Games to be announced for all consoles.
Does anyone even care about there awards? its basically an excuse for gametrailers to expose the public to their special brand of stupidity, luckily they have some nice trailers
wait the VGA awards on today? o_O
if not, when is it?
@below.
Last time i watched VGA was Live streaming online. I couldn't be bothered to watch that stuff on my TV. Had my lappy running on max vol. so i could hear when the teasers come on lol
F the VGA's
but I don't have cable so I can't watch it anyways.
@above
I watched it last year too(but on my T.V.), and I couldn't remember why I hated it till I read your 2.1 comment haha, the teasers weren't worth watching all the fakeness and promotion. It was a weird set up with singers and celebrities for a gaming awards show, IMO.
1 - 12 new games are supposedly being announced
2 - Halo Reach Trailer
3 - Possible unannounced announcements (lol)
4 - Everyone else I know is watching it too
5 - Boredom
I'm not, I'll just watch the "special" announcements on youtube or some other site. I can't stand to watch through this bs even if I tried.
I won't watch it. I will wait for the news at N4G or another site. I saw it once and it's boring as hell.
That's easy, for all the new games being announced... Oh yeah, and the awards.
I'm not watching this crap. I'll just catch all the trailers literally 5 minute after they air on TV right here on this website.
I watched the VGAs last year and OMG, it's SO terrible.
agreed. Really bad singers, really bad music, really bad dancers, really bad ceremony. .you get the point.
Glad the vids went up shortly.. It wasn't worth watch the stupid VGA for just teasers of games =/
They didn't focus on the industry or the games enough. I acualy have hopes for this year. To tell the truth as long as they dont make it as "sexual" as last years and focus on the games more I'm all for it.
I watch it for the exclusive unannounced games they show and videos of upcoming game like halo reach and that's what I care about I dont really care who wins any awards. But the announcements are pretty awesome you gotta admit.
yeah i dont care about who wins.. i know itll be the crappy games that are more popular that win. not the BEST game. Ill watch for the new trailers and stuff
I'm NOT.
If i want to watch CORRUPTION i will watch an episode of 'The Shield,' on FX.
The Video Game Industry needs its Video Game Awards Show and this is the best we got. We need to support the industry and this show so we can critisize it and they can make it better. Plus there are going to be some cool games that are going to be announced there. You can trust me about the world announcements part. Can't promise anything about the show because....... well I dont work for GameTrailers or Spike.
Edit: I agree I think the ESA should do one. Until then this is the best we got.
They need a better one and not to be hosted by Gametrailers. Make it hosted by all big gaming media outlets.
I have games to play why would I watch a lame show like the VGA's? All the announcements will posted online in a few short minutes after they air. I don't think anybody takes it seriously anyways.
VGAs are really just popularity contests... Usually the most recently released big title wins.
... but with all the negativity surrounding it, I'm pretty sure that I shouldn't. Besides as someone else said, who wants to watch the VGAs when they can just hop on this site, youtube, or any other gaming related website and get all the juicy details there. Besides, I'm pretty sure I'm supposed to be feeling up on my girlfriend around the time the VGAs air.
Fooling around with a voluptuous woman vs Watching the VGAs.
I think we all know what wins.
were all hoping that U2 gets it but are u kidding me every 360 fanboy will be voting for MW2 and the IW fans also and all the other ppl that are just hearing the hype against the gamers who actually know something, bottom line MW2 is awesome no doubt but does not deserve GOTY.
i will lmao if arkham asylum wins best 360 game xD
the Call of Duty franchise will be getting all the GOTY's for as long as they keep making games. lol
CODMW2 holds a lot of records indeed. Even most hacked, most glitched, most out of map ways, most USB stick cheat down loads, fake leader board, fake stat player's boosting game of all time. All this on a revised 2 year old foundation game format of COD4. Nothing innovating at all about it. It next to UC2 is not even close at all. Not even in the same remote league. Judge as a true game and not as a popularity contest.
It would be odd to see Batman for the Xbox get GOTY. More so since the PS3 has the Joker to play.
well im pretty sure that the first trailer for uncharted 2 was shown at last years VGA, so for that reason ill be tuning in. especialy since there is to be 12 games announced there....or at least thats what i have seen posted places.
if uncharted 2 doesn't win at least 3 awards i will get pissed off
I may tune in to see some new announcements. But we all know it`s just gonna turn into a "drool all over MW2 awards show".
Poor Guerrilla Games, they didn't even had a single nomination... And it is a miracle that Uncharted 2 got a shot for GOTY seeing how much the media favors the X360 console. Even for prior VGA's most of the games that won anything were Xbox games, not PS2.
I agree completely. Also let me add that the GTA franchise was previously exclusive to PlayStation platforms (up until the early years of PS2 then got ported over to the Xbox). Anyway, ever since then, I think the GTA franchise is in trouble to current PS3 fans as M$ now has exclusive DLC episodes for GTA IV; which they now made into a full GTA game (also exclusive to M$). This is why I fear the GTA franchise is in jeapardy for PS3 owners. Because, since this new GTA game (GTA: Episodes from Liberty City) is currently exclusive to Xbox 360, the franchise as a whole may become exclusive to them as well, if they continue they're deal with Rockstar, that is. This is also why I feel the GTA: Episodes from Liberty City should come to the PS3 itself, where it belongs, and used to belong.
On topic:
I'm watching the VGAs because they're also gonna announce details for a lot of new games coming out nect year which I may want to buy eventually. Examples are:
- new Medal of Honor
- new star wars game (hoping its BF3)
originated on the PC. came out on the Playstation. GTA 2 again originated on the PC, then went to the Playstation and Dreamcast. GTA III and it's expansions originally came out on PS2, then went to the PC and Xbox. GTA IV was multi, and EFLC exclusive to xbox 360.
basically, GTA has been FAR from an exclusive franchise, so get the facts straight and don't act like it wouldn't have existed if not for the Playstation Brand. Though i will admit, GTAIII being on the ps2 and in 3D did bring it to the mainstream, and make it very popular (obviously).
I wont deny that the spike vga's might be nothing more then ludicrous advertising... but this author is obviously a sony fanboy. His whole argument for the show being bunk is that killzone 2 isn't included... how dumb is that crap?
He tries to cover it up at the end with a quick paragraph about how he think rockstar deserves something but that argument seems to have significantly less effort then all his rants on Killzone 2.
I don't know his instant obvious fanboyism makes me stop caring instantly about his opinion. It's for the best.
Meanwhile... who cares about VGA's... I still don't know even know when they are nor do I care to look it up.
@Shnazzyone
hey why dont you look at the whole comment, d**kweed. Because if you did, you would notice that I didnt say ANYTHING about Killzone 2!! F**king Xbox 360 fanboy a**hole.
BTW Ya I admit it. I AM A PS3 FANBOY AND PROUD OF IT!!!
At least I had the guts too unlike other PS3 fanboys out there.
dissagree all you want, I don't give 2 sh*ts about it anymore.
There are sony fanboys who DON'T make that fact abundantly clear?!?! Now that's a news story right there!!!!
and so you know... I was talking about the actual news story author... not you. Just because i posted a comment after yours does not mean i was directing it at you.
So you know what I was talking about (since you must not have read the story)
2nd paragraph:
"Why isn't Killzone 2 even in the GOTY nominations? That is the second biggest Sony game for 2009 and yet not a nominee. While I love Left 4 Dead 2, in all fairness I would take that out and give Killzone 2 the spot just because it is a more complete game."
3rd paragraph:
"once again no Guerilla Games, who also kept updating and putting out decent DLC for Killzone 2. People wanted certain features, GG gave it to them."
That's what I was talking about.. not you. sorry you put that much anger into your response when it was totally misdirected.
The fact that Megan Fox is nominated for "Best Performance by a Human Female" and Shia Labeouf isnominated for "Best Performance by a Human Male" should already indicate how out of touch the media is with gaming culture and how corrupt the VGAs really are.
I pity any fanboy that uses Spike VGAs to defend any game.
wow, i can't believe he wrote that whole thing without knowing. He is half right. half of the vote comes from us...the gamers. However, the other half comes from a panel of expert reviewers (such as game informer who i will also source as the basis of this info) So we get both sides of the playing field. jeez. the vga's are the most legit because we have fans, and we have a group of the most popular respected gaming media.
let me clarify my first comment
I'm newer to the gaming industry than you are and thus I don't have all my facts straight yet. I'm looking more and more into it all the time so plz give me a break. I was also angry at Shazzyone so that clouded my judgement, too.
my bad as well, i may have flew off the handle a bit. being on this website and seeing the basic workings of the websites and the comments section day in and day out can truly put people on edge -__-
also, it's understandable if you're new, i'm just so used to seeing everyone on this site declare themselves a self-appointed Master of Video Game Knowledge, yet proving themselves idiots in the same statement and i jumped the gun a bit. ESPECIALLY when it comes to console exclusivity. still, not very often do people admit that they're ever wrong on this site, and i respect that you did. TBH i only know all that about GTA because i wrote a College Essay on the GTA series and the various 'effects' it has on society, and the various responses to it.
carry on thy gaming education, and let not the dark lure of fanboyism cloud thy judgement :-P
I won't be watching. I'll be playing Uncharted 2, which will unfortunately lose to Mega Glitchfail 2.
I don't usually watch em, only thing of my interest is the trailers, last years show was the worse I ever seen, in my opinion.... When they showed the trailer for one of the GTA DLCs, I already knew it was gonna b GTA4 as the winner.... That same scenario might get repeated with Halo ODST as they gonna b showing Halo Reach trailer..... MY guesses will be MW2, Uncharted, Batman, Halo ODST, L4D2(there's no Killzone, but it should OF BEING INCLUDED) But don't get me wrong, those awards can b very biased so they might go for MW2 L4D2 or Halo ODST, they never go fair, they go where they can get access to $$$$$$$$ from companies!!!!!!!!
Not watching them,last year where a joke,i couldn't even watch it till the middle of the show,it was worse than a B movie,the same will be with this year,and the nominees,wow,what the hell they where drinking for choosing L4d2 in GTOY category ,Halo ODST 4 hours gameplay,wow,i'm not saying they are bad games,they are good games but not worthy to be nominated,games like Killzone 2 or Infamous who really did something,more important they had a long single player experience they where not nominated,the Batman AA-best 360 game,wtf,lats time i checked its a multiplatform game,pathetic
Damn, I forgot about Infamous.... Demon's Souls was great too, but u know, the media goes for the OverHyped games, that's what really sucks!!!!!!
duh.. the nomination isn't. unless i'm wrong.
the nominations were all wrong. may the best game win though. it's for the betterment of gaming industry. if MW2 wins then that's the kind of games you'll end up getting forever - short, with tons of glitches and expensive too.
We're all waiting on the unveiling of HALO: Reeks because we all truly know how rubbish it'll look.
Mostly watching for the new game previews and what not
But its also interesting, I mean we all voted..........lol
I know my personal overall GOTY wont win (Assassins Creed II) even though it deserves it
Uncharted 2 or
Modern Warfare 2 will win GOTY
MW2 will be because...do I have to say it? *sigh*
and U2 because the PS3 crowd will make damn sure it does lmao.
i watched some of last years show and it was awful.
the only reason to watch is for the new games and trailers. but, these will be available on the internet in the following days........so, i'll wait to see them when the hit the internet.
im not gonna watch it at all....and i bet MW2 wins GOTY, buncha bs thats why i dont watch it
Never watched after the first year, always a joke. I'll catch all the debut videos right here on N4G. Its time the VGA's disbanded.
Heres another little tidbit of information you may want to consider in the future as well:
Try "PROOFREADING" your comments before u post them. That way, you can AVOID coming across as a fanboy who doesn't have their sh*t together the FIRST time! Then this whole thing could've been avoided. Comprendre?
lololololololol
You want to know the weirdest thing?
This map pack has a listing on Metacritic. What a sad state of affairs that a map pack can be given a rating as if it's a game...
People don't expect to pay 10$ for maps unless they're something legendary such as the Halo 3 map packs.
10$ DLC should only be charged on single-player campaign missions.
lol! eurogamer is trying hard... so lame so pathetic!
so now we rate DLC map Packs? WTF?