Five reasons Elder Scrolls IV will be better on PS3

While it may have struck out for adventure on Xbox 360 roughly a year ago, PS3 is still treated to a bigger, better and more beautiful experience. Oblivion is the first game to so obviously acknowledge PS3's more flexible hardware, while winning a round of one-upmanship with Microsoft's great white hope. Here's GamesRadar's five reasons why Bethesda's life-comsuming epic will bring the crowds to PS3.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Firstly the game is a year old been there done that and only £22.99 on gameplay.com, how much on PS3? Oh wait around £50! Its a port with less content than the 360 version because if you forget the PS3 has MEMORY ISSUES! Also the 360 has a better GPU so it can outdo the PS3 graphically thats a solid fact set in stone.
Also who is getting Shivering Isles first? Oh that would be the 360 and PC wheres the PS3 version? Nowhere to be found.

Also if you havent read already the 360 will get a GRAPHICAL UPDATE that will make it EVEN with the PS3 version!! STRIKE 3 YOUR OUT!

[bobbybrown]

"Above: It's exactly $4.83 cheaper than on Xbox 360"

"And, if anyone tries to tell you that PS3 won't see further content because of mythical memory issues, just give them a withering look. In a video interview that'll hit GamesRadar tomorrow morning, Bethesda's Pete Hines told us exactly why the downloadable goodies now available for 360 and PC aren't included, and it's nothing to do with RAM. He even confirmed that PS3 will see a Shivering Isles download this year. But whatever you pay to download in the future, Oblivion will always be that little cheaper to begin with on PS3."

[Marty8370]

Bethesda devs just wanted more time to test downloadable content using 'PS Network'.X360 owners are just jealous of all the extra content that the PS3 version has.Not to mention the visual improvements,bug fixes,frame rate fixes,loading times halved.Some of which are only possible cos of the 'PS3 hardware'.

[Hymons]

*withering look*

[sparco]

PS3fan - "Some of which are only possible cos of the 'PS3 hardware'"

Dont you mean. "All of these are only possible cos of the EXTRA YEAR ITS HAD TO BE WORKED ON!?

yea, i think thats what you meant to say :)
Either way, at least your getting the game. Enjoy!

[MikeGdaGod]

i think what ps3fan was talkin about was that because of the ps3 HD the load times were fixed. because all 360s dont have HDs this cant be fixed for them. i think thats what he meant

[Antan]

what? strike 3 bubbles?

[AuburnTiger]

To funny

[GaMr-]

Going off on a Angry (Im a fanboy, I hate PS3) rant. You should of just gave me one second to submit my next post. lol

It answers and clears up your following questions and allegations.

"Oh wait around £50! Its a port with less content than the 360 version because if you forget the PS3 has MEMORY ISSUES! Also the 360 has a better GPU so it can outdo the PS3 graphically thats a solid fact set in stone."

"Also who is getting Shivering Isles first? Oh that would be the 360 and PC wheres the PS3 version? Nowhere to be found."

(WARNING: THE CONTENT IS NOT FOR XBOX FANBOYS) READERS DISCRETION ADVISED.

http://n4g.com/ps3/NewsPend...

[eques judicii]

I thought that xbox 360 version was getting patched around the time of shivering isles to upgrade the shader engine and so the graphics between the ps3 and the 360 would be identical?

[MissAubrey]

The 360 is getting patched.

[peksi]

Even though I'm interested in PS3 I think this is more just hyping. Graphical upgrades will come to both systems (I think?) and it's a fabulous game for all platforms. Please just keep it that way.

[Loudninja]

WHat is wrong with that?They shader update for the 360 want fix all of the graphical advanatges the PS3 version has over the 360

[Havince]

automatically reduce peoples bubbles JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT AGREE WITH A 360 FAN ????????? its damn stupid, its supposed 2 be used for when someone is using offensive language etc NOT EXPRESSING THERE VIEW. Some people need 2 grow up

[Master of Menace]

Yep it sure looks better. Can't wait to get a copy. Why are bubbles reduced? Because there are more XBOX 360 fanboys surfing the PS3 pages, for some strange reason.

[PS360WII]

between stating opinion and just spaming hate is rather clear. When your spaming you use !@!!!! ???? and sucker and omg you stupid people can't you see that 360 is getting an UPGRADE that's going to make all this stupid talk USLESS becuase 360 is better than your silly PS3!!!!!

See those comments aren't wanted. If the same person would of gone.

Well it's nice to see that ps3 will for a short time seem better MS and Bethesda will give the 360 a graphical update and get things looking right again. Also don't forget that while the ps3 will get future updates PC and 360 users will have a little advantage for we'll get them a bit sooner.

See same comment but I'm not shoving it in your face and saying how stupid you are for liking the PS3. Oh plus I don't think the members like it when said pro console boy of another pools in the other forums just to pick a flame war fight.

[Captain Tuttle]

They've had a whole extra year to work on it!

[TheMART]

Not again...

Same stuff over and over again.

The draw distance and updating the graphics will become available in a downloadable patch for PC/360 also...

What's left? The Vilians on a diet? Come on. This article is hyping for selling the game obviously for the rest the game will be about the same. Plus, 360 gamers have been playing it for over a year now...

[Loudninja]

Theres more than that

Mosters look better
NPC looks better
Grass is better
The weather effets is better
It runs faster
No slowdown
No bugs
No pop up

[Master of Menace]

Just one problem with that downloading idea. Not everyone has access to the Net.

[Shadow]

Prove that the draw distances and updated graphics are coming to 360.

The 1up quote states... "Furthermore,the shader which helps the textures in the distance is coming to the 360."

Texture detail has nothing to do with draw distance. What's the point of having better texture detail if there's nothing to texture yet? More importantly, "Distant Shader Fix" does not mean "ZOMG improved graphics everywhere!" like the majority appear are making it out to be. What does it mean? The PS3 version looks better up close, far away, even the falling snow looks better (particle effects improvement?). There's stuff there that can't be attributed to a sole shader.

[techie]

Ok people don't get angry. I don't think it's anything to do with any platform being stronger than the other, but just different and time to work with the ps3, but this is what Pete Hines said;

"Question; When will the visual enhancements be coming to the xbox360?

Pete: Probably before Shivering Isles. But visual enhancements is a bit of an over statement. There are perhaps one or two things that we did with the ps3 that we can bring to another platform. What we did for the ps3 is what can be done on the ps3, and the way the ps3 works is very different from anything else, so it doesn't really translate to take optimisations from things we've done for the ps3 and try and make that available, you know, on the PC or...it doesn't work the same, so... You know, there may be one or two things that we've done, like with shaders that work on any platform...but beyond that theres not a ton of stuff that was done on the ps3 that can be used."

[calderra]

Yes, the reason everyone's going crazy about this is because the Oblivion devs shot most of it down. Draw dist fixes, etc are going on 360. Also, the PS3 won't be getting all the downlodable content due to RAM issues.

At best, it's a wash.

[big_tim]

He said that they downloadable content will come as downloadable content. He specifically said there wasn't an issue with RAM limitations.

The best part of the interview is when he said that they don't play favorites with systems. That should be enough to satisfy the fanboys.

[Loudninja]

No its not dude to ram isssues read whats in the link, the devs made another new interview

[THE TERMINATOR]

How can a simple patch bring the 360 version to the ps3 level? What about loading times, improved framerate, drawdistance? The developer even said some optimizations will be exclusive to the ps3. Even with the patch it still wont look as good as the ps3 version. Just accept it and MOVE ON!

[GaMr-]

Not if its Pro-Sony. They just read the title the start preaching there sermons from the "XBOX FANBOY BIBLE" it goes like this

Verse 1. PS3 is inferior, Cell is not for gaming it has an outdated GPU etc. etc. Its only has 512 shared ram to 360's dedicated. yada yada yada no scaler chip.

Verse 2. Blu ray is crap, PS3 is expensive, It has no games, It gets hand me downs. It gets ports. Games look better on Xbox, PS3 is a bluray player (yea know s)-(it if it wasnt it wouldnt be able to use its own media format).

I just get sick of the same rants and raves over and over again. Sad part is most of these kids doesnt even know what any of it means. They just read it in a pro Xbox article. Even if Peter Moore and Bill Gates went to one of these fanboys houses smack their mom and told them. "Hey PS3 doesnt suck as much as we say it does its just marketing" They would probably throw ol Pete and Bill out of their house and accuse them of being clones sent by Sony. Just give it a rest guys. PS3 had a bumpy start but its starting to build up speed and at a rapid pace if I mite add. Either roll with it or get rolled the hell over.

bethesda said it is a better version. Yet fanboys are ready to argue with the creators of the Game "THE CREATORS OF THE F $&%*NG GAME" LMFAO and (SMH) get over it. I posted a Decoy article just to keep the fanboys of this one (its about the bioshock rumor) Go flame that one.

[Balance]

i don't understand why it would shock anyone. think about if you made a game and got it out the door then had a whole year to do nothing but polish up the game etc... of coarse it is going to be better, it has nothing to do with the systems or their power potential it is all about development time and the fact the ps3 version has had almost a year more work on it. imagine (i know it won't but hypothetically) if RFOM came out on the 360 this november, if you believe for a second that it would not be a leap better on the 360 with the extra year of just polish etc.. and other additions you are fooling yourself.
you can not compare any ps3,360 game to each other if they come out a year apart, if you are just dying to compare something on the ps3 and 360 choose something that is released roughly at the same time.

[techie]

Agreed. As I said I don't think differences in the game will show that a system is better - but that they've had time to work with their differences. I do feel it is easier to grasp hold of the 360, especially from a PC port - and a year working on the ps3 may not actually provide that much of a different, because most of the time they are trying to make it play the same on the ps3 - and the enhancements are just little extras that they could pull out of the hat.

[gogators]

with, and if Bethesda has been able to improve on them with their PS3 version then that's great. Hope everyone gets to enjoy this really well done game. Maybe if they clear enough money through Oblivion then their next project in this realm will be even better. The load times didn't bother me while playing the 360 version and the graphic already looked great when compared to previous generations. Oblivion whether it looks better on one system or another isn't going to affect the war between MS and Sony. It's a great game from a solid developer that needs to make some cash so we all can get some more great games in the future.

[dantesparda]

Oh so the system doesnt matter? it has nothing to do with the system? Then if this came out next year on the Wii, then what? it would look even better still on the Wii, cuz the system dont matter right? and how bout on the PS2, Xbox or GC the year after that? What nothing? Give it a rest, if it wasnt possible to make it better than it wouldnt be better. And they worked on this game for about one year, they started work on it on March of last year right after they released the 360 version. And p.s. the 360 is way worst than the PC version, this game looks SO MUCH BETTER on a PC, its not even funny

[super bill]

bull.i hope you ps3 fans enjoy a game that came out over a year ago.fancy paying 50 quid on a game which is a year old and a straight port from a 360.these developers must love you lot for buying a game which has been out for a year all so.

[dantesparda]

Oh so you are saying that this game sucks now then, eh? cuz its a year old, well that means that it sucks on the 360 too, cuz its a yr old game. Hey you said it.

[CAPS LOCK]

am i the only one who thinks this game is crap? i have it on pc, i bought it a couple of months ago for 20 pounds and i still think it is crap. i mean what am i missing? someone please show me how to enjoy this game. shall i make a new character? i have one already whos kinda weak and when i steal or commit a crime i get all these poice following me and never leaving me alone. someone HELP ME enjoy this game.

[CompGeek]

I agree, I didnt like the game, it's moot for me. It looks "meh" either way.

[gogators]

committing crimes until your player has progressed far enough along to defend one's self against the guard. You need to finish either the warrior or mage questline before tackling the thief or assassin questlines, preferably finish both the warrior and mage questlines first. Avoiding the guard when you are weak, is almost impossible. Even if you get away, they still remember you and will put you away when you try and come back.

[BoneMagnus]

The differences are minor...the point is that everyone will get to enjoy this great game and with the increased sales numbers - a complete new game becomes that much more likely. C'mon guys, shut up and play!

[THE TERMINATOR]

Dont be angry that its best on the ps3, and that the pc and 360 versions wont be able to match it. The developer states * why most of the improvements in visual quality probably won't be making it back to 360 and PC versions, its because of the code which is not portable therefore proving the ps3 is superior to the 360 and pc. Even with the patch it still wont look as good otherwise the developer would not have said that.

[bouncybullet]

they had more time to polish it up for the ps3.
(your product will be better if you work on it for 2 weeks as opposed to 1.)
the 360 would pump out the same results if they had another YEAR to work on it.
i finished it 8 months ago,
upgrading those grass and trees across the lake really isn't going to make me want to play it again.
they could update oblivion graphics all they want.
the graphics weren't really that great in the first place.

nothing i've seen comes close to how amazing Alan Wake looks.

cream in my jeans.

[funkysolo]

I'm sick and tired of all this ranting from people fighting which system is better..graphic wise is there that much of a difference between the 2, not really...I don't think there is going be a crown for graphics this gen..I have a 360 but I do intend on getting a PS3 once the good games starting rollin out..I do prefer the 360 but it never has stop me from playing other systems, we play the games, not the systems..The PS3 could of bn better but they added a blue ray player instead of the 512mb graphic card which they should of done..

[GaMr-]

He Nailed it. "Round of appluase" someone that actually reads. Now take that put it in your pipe and smoke it. Straight out the mouth of a dev. But like I said in the past. Fanboys will even argue with devs if they dev speaks against there favored console.

[rowdy 1]

The 360 has to get upgrades. They couldn't get it right the first time. They need to get upgrades on all there games if you ask me. Except for Gears. I've been playing the hell out of my PS3. Can't wait to see Oblivion on it. That damn Dark Kingdon is a good looking & fun game on the PS3 too. Do you have to have a bluetooth headset to chat on the PS3? I use the old one for SOCOM CA, but I'v noticed it want work on Madden and Blazing Angels, and NBA 07. Little help

[xfrgtr]

Excellent news,another proof that the ps3 hardware is much better than the 360 and the xbox fanboys don't want to admit it and are just crying right know,I feel sorry for you. "Betheseda said it is a better version"

[BIadestarX]

What are you 8 years old? Stop trying to start a flame war. Most people here are smarter than that. If the PS3 has better hardware than the xbox 360 it will certaintly not be proven with some texture upgrades? Do you even know the definition of textures? The improvements this game has over the xbox 360 versions are not due to some advantage on the PS3. As stated by developers the xbox 360 can be updated to be the same.

[BIadestarX]

Congratulations for PS3 owners if this game looks better on their console. This is to be expected for a game release a whole year later. The advantage for the xbox 360 had it was that Xbox 360 owners got the game first. Would Xbox 360 owners rather have this game delayed for 1 year until the PS3 version was released in return for an upgrade on textures? Ofcourse not. Many fanboys would like to use this extra polish as a proof that the PS3 it's capable of more. But any body knows that port always look better than original game. Wait until virtual fighter 5 is released for the xbox 360; it will have some improvements over the PS3 version; it's a fact. Developers get more time to work on the game, learn about mistakes made during development and fix or rework areas of the games that werent complete due to time lines. I Think it's about time we all recognize that both consoles are powerful enough to handle the games we want to play. I don't like Sony forcing a format (blu-ray) but I have no doudts it is a great console.

[Jamaicangmr]

The Developer came forth and gave the reason for them not puttin some of the content for the PS3 version on the disk. He said it's because they have had no experience with the PS3 store so they decided to use those contents to test it out. It has nothing to do with RAM. As a matter of fact many of you who speak of RAM have no clue what it does anyway. This is not speculation it's a fact so give the RAM thing a rest. Your startin to look really stupid the more you try to hide behind your mythical belief that it's because of RAM. lol! If you understood XDR RAM then all this stupidity would have stopped a long time ago.
link:
http://www.opentechsupport....
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http://www.rambus.com/in/pr...

You can do deeper research but this is just a basic understanding of the advantages of XDR. Enjoy...

[GaMr-]

And the best line yet that never seems to get old. The age of the game. lol good its so obvious that fanboys really need some kind of sick twisted reassurance that there favorite console it superior. The age of the game has nothing to do with the quality. A game like Oblivion being a year old means abosuletly nothing. Micorsoft fanboys forget Xbox 1 launch title was 'Onimusha Genma" wich was a PS2 game remake and it was still a decent game. Resident Evil 4 won a buttload of awards when it hit PS2. I didnt hear anyone saying OMG I played it 2 years ago on my gamecube. Maybe when Resident Evil 1 was remade for Gamecube I should of said OMG I played it 6 years ago on PSONE. Or maybe wen 360 got the final Fantasy 11 port with absoulutely no touch ups whatsoever people should of ranted "OMG I been playing it for like 3 years on my PS2" Or maybe when XBL for Streetfighter 2 turbo people should of ranted "OMG I been playing that for 15 years on my SNES". Bottom line is. When games go multiplat its to show "well look we offer everything they offer" So what if you have been playing ot for a year. There is tons of people that want nothing to do with you beloved Xbox that would like to play this game also. All you fanboys know that "hand me down,leftovers talk is a sad sad compensation for the fact PS3 is on the rise and it hurts you so bad cause you chose to be a fanboy instead of just a gamer. You chose to love you console instead of loving "great games". I hear Xbox360 owners all the time say "wow I cant wait for Virtua Fighter 5 or I hope we get a version of Metal Gear so on and so on. Cause those are people that love games not their console. All you other owners preaching that hand me down crap are nothin more than console loving fanboys.

[techie]

Ok people don't get angry. I don't think it's anything to do with any platform being stronger than the other, but just different and time to work with the ps3, but this is what Pete Hines said;

"Question; When will the visual enhancements be coming to the xbox360?

Pete: Probably before Shivering Isles. But visual enhancements is a bit of an over statement. There are perhaps one or two things that we did with the ps3 that we can bring to another platform. What we did for the ps3 is what can be done on the ps3, and the way the ps3 works is very different from anything else, so it doesn't really translate to take optimisations from things we've done for the ps3 and try and make that available, you know, on the PC or...it doesn't work the same, so... You know, there may be one or two things that we've done, like with shaders that work on any platform...but beyond that theres not a ton of stuff that was done on the ps3 that can be used."

[BIadestarX]

First, I do recognize that the both consoles are different in term of hardware. Which one is better? I believe this is not something we should care as much as many here do. Why? Because I believe both consoles are more than capable of handling the games they make. They proved that. Resistance, Gears, etc. They will continue to improve even more. Than why does it matter which is better?
Well, I agree with what you said for the most parts, but "A game like Oblivion being a year old means abosuletly nothing." do you actually believe that? Are you saying that developers didn't use the extra year to make improvements, fix bugs, improve the game engine, etc? So, you are saying sport games which are release yearly improving on little by little as developers learn more is a lie? You are saying that A game made in 2005 should look the same as a game made in 2006 by the same company? ohh wow, and you calling people are fanboy.

[GaMr-]

(@ Bladestar)

You completely took me out of context. If you took time to analyze what I wrote instead of taking to the heart you would realize that your more agreeing with me than you are disagreeing with me. I am talking about the people that use the line "Its sloppy seconds, its left overs, its a year old" as reasons to persuade other people to not buy this game for their respective console. The reason those are weak attempts is because of every reason you just stated in your post. Those reasons you just stated are exactly why there is nothing wrong with buying a game thats been released for a year when its released on your console of choice. So thanks for the back up! ; )

[specialguest]

seems like you guys can't handle the straight facts that are coming directly from Bethesda. Everything is right there in plain text, only if you actually read the article. Stop scrambling to find explanations and justifications to why the article is wrong.

What ever reasoning it may be (more development time, customized for specific PS3 hardware, etc.) the plain fact is that the PS3 version IS technically the better enhanced version. Even if the only difference is improved in only one aspect, the keyword is TECHNICALLY.

[XbugPosse]

BTW that's one of the best if not the best 360 game which beats everything on graphics besides GOW.

[THE TRUTH]

After reading deepbrown's (man you get +rep from me, your unbiased and honest equal to eachside) it's clear that the game made avalible on the 360 platform won't reach the level of the game made on the PS3 platform.

"Question; When will the visual enhancements be coming to the xbox360?

Pete: Probably before Shivering Isles. But visual enhancements is a bit of an over statement. There are perhaps one or two things that we did with the ps3 that we can bring to another platform. What we did for the ps3 is what can be done on the ps3, and the way the ps3 works is very different from anything else, so it doesn't really translate to take optimisations from things we've done for the ps3 and try and make that available, you know, on the PC or...it doesn't work the same, so... You know, there may be one or two things that we've done, like with shaders that work on any platform...but beyond that theres not a ton of stuff that was done on the ps3 that can be used."

BUT what is exactly WRONG with that? Who cares? Furthermore what sense would it make for these developers to waste time and money "upgrading" a game 360 owners played through almost a year ago?

Some of you 360 fanboys NEED to grow up and undestand ONE vey important point! There is NO need to bash the gamers that prefer a PS3 over 360 because good news has surfaced about the PS3 console! I see this trend time and time again, and it's just ignorance, we don't make the games or the consoles we just play games so why do you feel you need to direct your flames at a cetain group of gamers about a game we had NO hand in creating?

Every 360/PC owner has had the chance to play the game (myself included, no offense but I hate this game) and if you loved it or hated it the point is you had a chance to play it before any PS3 owner correct? If you liked the games and enjoyed the expeience than who caes about the version on the PS3 console? Furthermore it WILL cost the developes money to make a patch to level the platforms out, money that will indeed be WASTED just to appease some fanboys! I'd much rather them spend that money on making a whole new game.

[Silverwolf]

spoken like a gamer and not a fanboy. Hope this becomes the norm on this site...

[techie]

Cheers dude - did the same for you.

[Maldread]

Excellent said The Truth. Good to see a PS3 version which actually had improvements and not downgrades. Still i would wait on reviews to see just how much. I guess we can (unfortunately) only hope this becomes the norm, Silverwolf, there are more flamers on this site than gamers.

[FeralPhoenix]

I think a few people have already said similiar things, but I think your post just about sum's it up.....furthermore I like to stress one thing you touched on, which is; WHY should Bethesda spend alot of time and money with upgrades for the 360 version?....360 gamers have had the game already for a year its not like "anything" is going to make those 360 owners or future owners who didn't want it before now say "damm I have to get that game"....sure those who already own Oblivion "might" be willing to pay a small fee for new content but they were likely to do that with or without these much talk about "upgrades". I honestly believe this is more of an arguement to "defend the 360" than it is about which version of Oblivion will be better, which IMO there's really no need because common sense say's it "should be better" after a year....and the only reason I say "should be" is because when you are talking about videogames they almost always improve when dev's have more time on the same title, but you do always have to be a little cautious because dev's do "hype" games for release and don't always "achieve" what they say, in this case however I think these dev's will get the job done so I will take Bethesda's word for it.

[darx]

Based on those pics, are they worth the extra $200.00?

[R34GTR]

To a PS3 owner or anyone planning on buying one. Yes it is. When you add up those screens plus all the other updated features (no frame rate issues,sharper character designs, faster loading times) its definetly worth it. Then you throw everything Sony's machine has to offer especially coming in the next month. This isnt the only port getting tweaks Rainbow Six Vegas is also. Did we forget about Vegas? Quit flaming. My favorite quote for right now.

" A STORM IS COMING" .... That should of been Sony's slogan this Gen instead of "Play B3yond"

[THE TRUTH]

First off it isn't 200$ more! You CAN buy the 20gb model (like I did)! And no one game (not GOW, FF, MGS, Halo, Mario ect.) is worth the price of a console doesn't matter which brand, so stop being ignorant and enjoy you console of choice!

Seriously the statement "are they worth the extra $200.00?" got old almost a year ago! At least do yourself a favor and get something origional to bash.

[Takumi86]

its not about what's worth it , it's the HD DVD worth it? that's a dumb question
Sony and Bethesda giving you choice whether you like it or no then if youdon't like it don't buy it but at least there are games that coming out for PS3 you have choice. i found this website so many full of fanboys either 360 or PS3 but i agree more on the PS3 side they are getting good games so as 360 . but base on the Article that's a definitly a good news for PS3 you can't deny that.

[Bhai]

Wow ! I bet TheMART is wishing he never had said those things to DJ in the first place about downloadable armour HaHaHa, but yeah anything can be expected out of a fanboy like him. Nothing was ironic you know. Man, next-gen has arrived, its only 3 months out and difficult to work upon and MS' transitional technology has already showing signs of ...you know...being 'TRANSITIONAL' HeeHeeHee !

[Takumi86]

with all those upgrade faster load , better graphics ,better texture , better experience this game it must buy for me

[R34GTR]

Because was the 2006 GAME OF THE YEAR and it was on 360. How dare the PS3 take the 360's game of the year and do it better. Who do those guys at Bethesda think they are. They should be Microsoft fanboys like us.

Guys face it. Hate it or Love it this game will be a knock out and probably win Game of the Year again for 2007. Only this time on the PS3. This is just "karma" for all that 'Games look better on Xbox360" jazz all you fanboys were touting around since the PS3's launch. What goes around comes around.

Here quote a little 50 cent in your life it will make you feel better:

Hate it or Love the underdog's on top and im gonna shine until my heart stop. Go ahead Envy me im "The Gaming World" MVP and I aint going nowhere so you should get to know me.

[bouncybullet]

sarcasm right..?
there is no way this would win again.
this game has YEAR old graphics.
even WITH the updates.

when Mass Effect releases everyone will forget about this game.
i forgot about it 8 months ago.

also, Alan Wake is the balls.
www.AlanWake.com

[techie]

Agreed. I never thought this games strength was graphics anyway - it was more the world and gameplay surely? There were other games that had better graphics at the time anyway.

Those do look like good games. Don't forget BioShock as well.

And the Ps3 has Heavenly Sword, and Lair to name two - both look like incredible experiences...taking entertainment to the next level (got the likes of Andy Serkis performing and helping on Heavenly Sword)

[Jrocks_4_ever]

I like that!!!! "Hate it or Love it" should be the slogan for the ps3....lol

[rowdy 1]

PS3 was only 1 month in 2006 and RFOM still did pretty good.

[Daytona]

The title R=FOM had been worked on by sony and company as long as Gears of War had by MS and company, so to think it was worked on for just a few months and that's the end result is wrong.

Also look at MGS4, by the time it's released it will be almost 4 yrs. in development time. It had better look great, but will it? No, not from what's being shown from the various demo's we've seen spread out from time to time.

The ps3 is not a marvelous development tool/console, it's a major pain and is required to play ALL games w/o rumble. that's a major weakness in itself.

[PS360PCROCKS]

first off I never really liked this game, but it's not really my type of game. second who cares? We've all been playing this since last March...you get improvements we got it first. If someone said you can have this game right now or you can wait a year for improvements I'd laugh and take the game, sorry.

[Silver360]

I mean I have all the acheivements. Beat every story line so why should I care if it looks better on the PS3 after a year of development. They can have it I am done with it. And that brings up the point Bethesda had to make it look better to get PS3 owners to buy it. I mean who plays a year old action rpg that isn't online. PS3 owners enjoy the game and move on like us 360 owners did.

[NextGen24Gamer]

No sorry that won't happen. It was a great game. The ps3 version a WHOLE year later is going to have graphical tweaks and a bonus quest that the 360 has already had out now. Thats excellent news for anyone who calls themself a gamer and has never played the PC or the 360 version already. Now, yes the 360 version and the pc version will have the same graphical tweaks that are coming built into the year late ps3 version. But, there is no way the same game with a few extras will take game of the year. Not over Halo 3, Bio Shock, GTA 4, Mass Effect, ect....It won't happen. But, I'm happy for all gamers. Everyone gets to play the best version of oblvion no matter what they have. Computer, 360, or ps3. Well, the ps3 version is missing the add on and many of the extras....But, its still 4 dollars less than the original game from a year ago. But, hold on...you can buy oblivion for 39.99 at walmart right now. Oh, well....Great game. I highly reccommend it.

[R34GTR]

MARK THOSE WORDS.... Cause when VF5 hits XBox360 in 4-6 months after its PS3 debut. Im going to copy and paste these statements you both made. And if anyone says. Who look at the time difference. Then think about this. Appearently Xbox360 owners completely KO'd a Massive RPG in less than a year. Cause technically its not a year till March 6 2007. So then how long will it take PS3 owners to completely demolish VF5 and move on. Two weeks tops maybe 3. So lets say Virtua Fighter gets slight mods and upgrades for the 360 you just forfited your comment card because of your statements. But I garuntee you or other Xbox owners will be bragging about those tweaks if there is any. Highly doubt it though Sega is lazy just look at the Sonic port. But just wanted to show how hipocritical people get.

And yea im kiddin about GAME OF THE YEAR by the way. You xbox butt boys need to chill out a bit. Its just a little joke. Come on with Killer apps like ; Lair, Heavenly Sword, Ninja Gaiden Sigma,Motorstorm,Virtua Fighter 5, Assassins Creed, Killzone 2 , MGS4(hopefully) and God of War 2 (PS2 baby all day still hurting feelings) its going to be hard for anything to snatch it away hands down... ; )

[Booneral]

Oh yeah, the game has so much difference that it will cause supernova. Unless I see a difference like I saw on Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory from last-gen (PS2 version was obviously inferior) I don't think I'll evet go out and scream "Oh yeah! this is PS3!!!"

[Dusk]

....but just as sad as people saying that the PS3 is crap and won't have great games (it will), is saying that this game has anything to do with which system is better.

Bethesda had an entire YEAR to tweak the PS3 version. Any game a year later will be better than the year before, it's just that simple. If Bethesda took a year and tweaked the 360 version, it would be much better than the original and may or may not be better than this PS3 version. Who knows? You can only compare games with the same development cycle from multiple systems to attempt to say which console is better. Once the development cycle changes, the games can no longer be used to compare systems.

This goes for fanboys on both sides. To think that with an extra year, the PS3 version couldn't possibly outdo the other versions is ridiculus. The PS3 may not have blown the 360 out of the water like it was hyped to, but it by no means sucks and is quite capable. Personally, I was very surprised that the PS3 version of FN3 with its extra development time wasn't better than the 360 version. Then I remembered that FN3 was done by EA. Bethesda is no EA and actually takes pride in its work.

However, on the flip side, to actually think that because the PS3 Obvlivion version has received a years worth of tweaking that this makes the PS3 a superior console is just as ridiculus. Any game with a years worth of tweaking should look and play better than a year old version, on any system. The PS3 version is not going to win 'Game of the Year' like someone said, because it's a YEAR OLD GAME that has already made its splash. Minor graphic and performance updates does not make an entirely new game. While this version of Oblivion is great news for PS3 owners, the gaming universe no longer revolves around the PS brand. Oblivion has already been played by millions of people. It is now.....old, been there done that, but is still great for those PS3 only people who haven't yet had a chance to enjoy it.

[Mr Murda]

Just like Vice City for XBOX.

[THAMMER1]

Your 100% correct bro. I wish we had more members like you here buddy.

[Takumi86]

but there are some of your comments that bugs me.i heard a lot Developer that PS3 is hard to program for, we all know 360 is easier to program as Dev said from the past or present. Im just saying if you guys want to Compare games between PS3 vs 360 just give it a year or so cuz thats when all the AAA games comes out.

[zonetrooper5]

Well the PS3 fans should be happy that they are getting this game, I got this game on the Xbox 360 and its an awesome game, i just wish that some people on this site would be banned already as they just try to start flame wars, spam and they try to be offensive.

[NextGen24Gamer]

Saying anything about Vitual Fighter for the 360 when it releases after the ps3 version and is superior. You won't see one fan bragging about that on the 360 side. Its expected with 360 fans...whether the game is late, early, or on time....I guarentee you that. So to claim something that hasn't happened yet to be hipicritical...is too funny. I have noticed that is how ps3 fanboys are. They get games a year late and brag about the minor tweaks that are being claimed in "previews". Then the actual game comes out and doesn't match up to the year old 360 version...and we hear excuses about lazy developers...its all getting tiring and played. Stop already. The war is over. Buy the console you want. Play the games you want. And stop searching frantically for some sort of sign from ps3 games that they are superior to the 360 games. It's just not there. How many head to heads do you have to read to realize this? Previews show nothing...they are hype machines to build hype and boost sales. Thats it. Over and over again we have seen this happen.

P.S.

When the xbox launched one year after the ps2....why is it that it came out of the gates with games that blew away what the ps2 was doing for that whole year prior? Why isn't the ps3 doing the same thing as the newer piece of tech to the year old 360? Think about it. The ps3 was delayed due to cell problems, blu ray problems and hdmi testing with the new 1080p tv's that weren't released until mid to late 2006. But all in all the ps3 as is today...was done at the same time the 360 was done. Remember Sony claimed it would launch a couple months after the 360 back in 2005.

And why are we still bringing up the Fight Night Rn3 comparisson? I have both versions and on my 1080p tv...The 360 version is notibly better. On top of my own personal opinion....They did a head to head comparisson at the Apollo theatre on national TV...The 360 version beat out the ps3 version hands down. Not even close. The key with head to heads is you have to display them on the same tv in the same tv. Not just going of of what you thought you saw...but actually side by side or swich back and forth....In both cases the 360 version was better. The ps3 version did have a few more options...which is to be expected....but thats about it.

Once again...All versions getting upgraded is "GOOD" news for all gamers. Who started all this comparisson stuff anyway? Everyone should be happy with this news. 360 and PC owners get a new expansion pack and graphical upgrades...the ps3 version gets the graphical upgrades as well built into the game. Everyone gets to play the "Game of the Year" in all its Glory.

[techie]

Dude did you even read what the guy above you said? Stop flaming. Trust me xbox360 fanboys seem to be more prevalent on this site and attack ps3 fanboys for being excited about a game. I wish they wouldn't say things like these improvements mean the xbox360 is worse - but I'm not sure if they do. All I can see them doing is being excited about a good game that has some improvements that are something to be pleased about.

All I see on this site is ps3 supporters desperately trying to defend themselves and give a postivie outlook of something they are excited about and see a huge amount of potential in - and people who seem to dislike it just shouting them down. Why can't they be pleased with they're purchase? As long as they don't say the xbox360 is worse, or is going to be worse, I see the problem with it. I think everybody should back off.

And the reason that this news is exciting is that these developers are using the cell for some postivie effects and improvements, not that the xbox360 coulnt have had this if they had more development time - no doubt it could have. But it is warming to see that the ps3 is working, and can bring out the stops - and will continue to improve (as well the 360).

[specialguest]

(Quote from TOPGAMER)"You won't see one fan bragging about that on the 360 side"

Complete and absolute B/S. Ever since Day-1, 360 fanboys are always provoking flamewars. Always making unfair comparisons. Even when the PS3 version clearly has the advantage, they will still twist these facts in a negative way...*ahem* Bladestar. TOPGAMER, you are completely blind if you think 360 fanboys are totally innocent.

Seems like you 360fanboys are experts at bashing Sony and also very creative too, but when there's positive Sony news(again, not news that puts down the 360, but just plain old positive Sony news)...oh no! emergency! emergency! we must quickly put out and extinguish it immediately!

[sabbath420]

Well the way I see it, if the developers had a year extra to develop the game on xbox like they did on the ps3 it would look just the same as the "new" ps3 version.. maybe even better. This game is old news anyway no matter how you spiff it up.

[Anerythristic26]

These look like really minor tweeks to me. As I understand it the 360 is getting a patch to add some if not all of the graphical upgrades. I understand the PS3 version loads much faster because of the Cell. So there is an advantage right there. I think the graphical upgrades are because of a year more development time and not solely because of the Cell.

[ujsplace]

I am currently playing throught this awesome game on the 360 and it is absolutely one of the best games I have ever played. I am certain that those who purchase this masterpiece for the PS3 will also experience all that this game has to offer. With that said, I think the article is clearly bashing the 360 while promoting the PS3. Clearly gamesradar.com is truly lacking objective writers who can lay aside their own opinions and place the facts above all else. Reading the article and looking at the images clearly illustrates this obvious slant because the proof is ironically enough there for all to see and judge.

[R34GTR]

This article is in no way "bashing your beloved 360" . Thats saying every article that says "gears of war is a knock out hit or bioshock will be a killer app or Lost planet is a very fun game is bashing PS3. This article is simply tryin to show PS3 owners and future owners. "Dont be discouraged yes this game is already in production yes other platforms have it. But if you want to play it on PS3 its still worth a buy because we have added some late comer tweaks. There is absolutely no reason for someone to buy a weak port. Especially if they have already played it. Im positive this game is not being released with intentions that anyone who has 360 will sell their 360 and buy a PS3. Its more geared strictly towards people that already own or are going to own a PS3. Its basically sayin "hey remember that game Oblivion you can play it here too so your not missing anything by choosing playstation and we even add some features incase you have already seen it in action. PC gamers are getting Gears of War. I want some of you Xbox fanboys to go bash on PC gamers about getting Gears Late. They would probably laugh dead in your face like "what are you kidding me". Good news it PS3 is gettin oblivion. The Bonus news is Oblivion is getting tweaks. So that puts PS3 owners in a WIN WIN. So why is everyone so angry. PLease tell me. Better yet. This article is called 5 reasons why Oblivion will be better on PS3. So since you fanboys are so opiniated. Give me 5 reasons why me a PS3 owner who doesnt own an xbox360. Should not get this game and I'll give you bonus points if you should tell me why I should go pick up the 360 version as well? So go ahead. Make me a believer. Prove Betheseda wrong.....

[ApocalypseShadow]

ESPECIALLY FROM GAMR AND DEEPBROWN.gamr is pwning all the naysayers and deepbrown is keeping it real about it all being about the games.KUDOS.

so since you guys already summed up what could have been said,i just want to add one thing:a lot of you 360 gamers were saying ps3 had memory limitations,but not only is oblivion on ps3,but it's expansion is also included on the disc.and will get more content later on.and it runs better and looks better.this is from the devs.but that's beating a dead horse(not that i would do that)but anyway,yuo guys have been saying:

"PS3 IS NOT CAPABLE OF MAKING ANY GAMES LOOK BETTER THAN 360."TOP GAMER,YOU WERE ONE OF THEM."GAMES WILL NEVER LOOK BETTER."if it took the devs a year or two years,you guys said it will never be better in any way.BUT YOUR LIES ARE BECOMING TRANSPARENT.PS3 IS BECOMING A CAPABLE SYSTEM TO PLAY GAMES.EVEN THOUGH YOU GUYS SAID"PS3 IS NOT OPTIMAL FOR GAMES.""RSX IS UNDERPOWERED.""256 OF RAM IS NOT ENOUGH."EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNEW THAT PS3 HAS 512 OF RAM THAT IS SPLIT.

now you guys are not only dogging the devs and trying to argue with them and tell the devs they're wrong or are just trying to sell their game,but now you're scrambling trying to save face.so i'm not going to say anything to you guys but this:

YOU GUYS GOT PWNED BY THE DEVS.YOU GUYS GOT PWNED BY THE DEVS.

so you can yap all day pulling out other games or call people names or try to upset sony fans,but:

YOU GUYS GOT PWNED BY THE DEVS.YOU GOT PWNED BY THE DEVS.

i'm done.

[joemutt]

You keep saying it over and over, but the devs gave us the game a year ago, and you still havent played it, so I think its you who got "pwned by the devs".

This is old news, last years news!

[DJ]

It seems like everytime the PS3 gets a leg-up over the competition we get a crapload of bickering from the other camp. The one argument I see every single day (and a weak one at that) is "Well, the PS3 version had more development time. The 360 version would be just as good if they had the same amount of time as the PS3 version."

However, no one has the ability to make valid excuses for the end product. All that matters is the product itself. While companies like Activision rushed the PS3 versions of Call of Duty 3 and Tony Hawk, Bethesda took their time and put a lot of effort into learning the hardware, and it totally paid off. Trying to compensate for the shortcomings of your hardware of choice by punching out immature and baseless comments against others is just pointless.

[THWIP]

...they just shipped it without online MP, because Sony STILL didn't have their s**t together in that department. You can't blame a developer for something like that, when they've been spoiled by LIVE for 5 years. ;)

[Black Republican]

HEY ALL
I own a xbox 360, i bought Oblivion for xbox and i have had the game for a long time now.
I like the game and this will prob make some xbox 360 fan boys mad, but I gonna just say it how it is.
How do you all expect the xbox 360 version to be as good as the ps3 version???
They have had over 1year to make this game better and to improve on it, even if ps3 did not have the same conent, regardless it will still look better, it has been over year. EVEN IF THEY DID IT ALL OVER FOR THE 360 THAT WILL ALSO LOOK BETTER THEN THE CURRENT VERSION, because with time it gives the ppl who make the game improve almost everything.
I don't own a ps3 just xbox360 but I dont undertsand why their are so many haters, i mean, why cant you just except it. ps3 will look a little better and thats all their is to it, same content at the end, same gameplay etc etc...

[uxo22]

It makes perfect sense, If I had a chances to paint the same painting, I think my second rendition would have the improvements that I felt I should have done on my original. But here is where most of the antagonizers are getting fuel for the flame war. No one said that the game looks better because the PS3 is better (Except for the sony fanboys) and those that did are just glad to have something to finally boast about albeit an empty something. I simply look at it like this, I've had the game since it released for the xbox, and I am perfectly fine with how it looks. The game is old news to me as far as the shock and awe goes. PS3 Fans, enjoy it. Don't just brag about how much better it looks, support the developers by going out now and buying it. Although most of the people on this site that are running their mouths about how great it looks WILL NOT BUY IT. They just want something to Talk Sh!T about.

Xbox Fans, sometimes you guys fall right into the trap because you can't stand having someone talk smack with out a response. I know it stings but learn to take it if you're gonna dish it.

[NextGen24Gamer]

hype the game up. Always talk about how the game is going to be better than anything before it. We have heard this same hype for every single ps3 game that is out now. The funny thing is....once the game gets released....it doesn't match the hype of the previews. Every single time. Not one ps3 previewed game that was released since launch....has been as good as it was hyped up to be. Understand that develolpers are always going to say..."we are taking full advantage of the Cell"... ha ha ha ha ha.... They have to say that. THey want their game that they spent oodles of money and time on....To sell on the ps3. You guys really have that short of memory? Remember the hype about Madden, Need for Speed Carbon, Call of Duty 3, Nba 2k7, Full Auto 2, Sonic...and those are just the 3rd party games that were "pumped up" in their previews....They all fell short of the 360 version when released and reviewed. Then you have the first party exclusive games for the ps3. Same deal...but those games were rated 3's and 5's. With the exception of Resistance...Rating the highest..."8" on average. All those ps3 games were super hyped up in "previews"...Just like this one for "oblvion". Now, I'm not saying the game will not be as good as the 360 version. I'm just saying " I have heard it all before"...I own a ps3. I have played every game released for it. I know what I'm talking about. Many "Fanboys" on this site don't even have the ps3.... but yet they talk about it and attempt to compare it to the 360. I'm not saying the ps3 is garbage. I'm saying that its absolutely "NOT" better than the 360 in regards to games. It hasn't proven anyting yet. And previews are not "PROOF"...THey are hype machines to try and sell copies of a game. Get it? Got it? Good.

P.S. Its not the Cell that makes the load times faster folks. Someone above said that. Its due to the built in hard drive. 5 gigs of data stores to your ps3 hard drive, which drastically speeds up load times. That is definately one of the advantages of having the hard drive built into every ps3. But I'm sure you can see that if you have the 20 gig ps3....4 games pre loaded on your ps3 will fill it up to the max....And the 60 gig drive.....12 games....Interesting indeed.

[Alymon]

I would hope its better on the PS3. Considering the time difference in release, if it wasn't better, there'd be something seriously flawed.

This article really does nothing more than state the obvious.

[Black Republican]

i agree with u TopGamer
360 and ps3 will always claim they are better then each other
and i myself do have to agree that the ps3 has not impressed me thus far.
my roomate owns one, and we have some of the same games, and im not saying it looks better on ps3, or on 360, but on paper which machine is supposed to be better??? and visually their is barely a differnece, i sometimes cannot even notice the differnce, and we both have hdtv's
I believe that the graphics will almost be the same for 360 and ps3 only because developers have had over a year advantage working with the 360. both systems have its pros and cons, some ppl just cant leave it at that

[Boink]

They need to give ps3 people a reason to buy a game that's already been out for a year.

if it didn't look better, I would be asking what the hell is wrong?

[Bullseye]

I thought 360 version was great, but it did have a few annoying niggles with loading, popup etc. If those problems are ironed out on the PS3 version then i think that is more important than any superficial improvement in graphics.Hopefully they will use one of PS3 advantages and load from HDD. I'm sure all PS3 owners that purchase this game will enjoy it enormously.

[THE TERMINATOR]

You can see the difference, graphics are much sharper and better textures. I was going to get a 360 when they were released but was put off when i found out that the game was quite inferior compared to the pc version. The 360 was supposed to be next gen and yet it couldnt match a 1 year old pc in terms of performance. ill tell you one thing though i am DEFINATELY BUYING A PS3!!!!

[highps3]

Anyone can see that difference and its so big im picking up the game for my Ps3...

Wasnt going to beause i didnt know about how much they improved but it looks great...

Cant wait for this game!!!

[spacetoilet]

I'm looking forward to playing this bad boy. I have had it on my PC for ages, but I didn't play it so much, because for fighters, Rpg's etc Id rather be in the front room with the surround sound etc. It does look nicer than the 360 version but not by much. To be fair they have had a year to optimize.

[ApocalypseShadow]

it's called rush jobs.companies trying to release the same game on two different developing environments.you can't do that with any game.360 is not like ps3.and ps3 is not like 360.you can't rush a game out for each without losing something.

but all you guys kept saying was"ps3 is not optimal for games."256 of ram is not enough."SO HOW CAN A SYSTEM WITH 256 OF RAM BY YOUR REASONING BECOME BETTER LOOKING OR EQUAL THAN IT'S COUNTERPART?UNLESS....YOU WERE LYING AND DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

that's what we have been trying to say.the devs proved you guys were wrong in interviews that you want to disagree with.and that multiplatform games will look better on the primary system unless you put work into the port.which these devs did.do i think the 360 version made today would look just as good?yup.i believe that.

but ps3 is proving that:

"IT IS OPTIMAL FOR GAMES.."IT DOES HAVE ENOUGH RAM TO WORK WITH.""IT DOES HAVE A DISC THAT CAN HOLD EXTRA CONTENT WITHOUT HAVING TO DOWNLOAD THE REST."

motorstorm,heavenly sword,resistance,f1,rr7,vf5,ob livion,virtua tennis,etc are proving it day by day that ps3 is a capable machine to make games on.even though you don't want to believe it.i know you got both systems top gamer.it means you won't miss out on these games.just like i want a 360 for mass effect.i won't be missing out on scifi.(where's my stargate game?)but day by day these pointless arguements are becoming worthless.

[zonetrooper5]

Why are people buying the PS3 for Obilvion, its not a killer-app to be honest. I thought that people would buy a console for more than one game.

[techie]

It was the 360's strongest launch title - 94%. How is it not a killer app? Of course there are other games for the ps3. Do you think Sony who's been at the top aren't going to release any games? Would be a bit of a downfall from a company who have moved software and games forward for years.

[joemutt]

I dont even remember playing this game its been so long ago.

A game comes out a year later, and it looks better, wow, who would have guessed that?

But games that come out at the same time on both consoles look better on the 360, so why be upset 360 fans? We got the better deal.

[R34GTR]

#52 - Preview's of Games ALWAYS
hype the game up.

He's right. Just look at lost planet and Crackdown. ; )

[Daytona]

To say that you'd need to compare like scene's and views, and that wasn't done, the one screen wasn't even close to the other, also yes yes yes, they've had an additional year to make the game look good and w/the ps3's handicapps, they needed it, didn't they? If they would of taken equal time for the Xbox 360 verision, "NO" they wouldn't look the same, The Xbox 360 version would be sooooo much better, so please stop being proud of a slightly better smoother looking tree from 200 feet, lol. What idiots, and yet the ps3 boys badly need something to be happy about.

The Xbox 360 version has more content, much more and will continue to recieve more. The ps3 is sadly weak in so many area's, stop being proud of a 1 additional yr. handicapped system.

The ps3 is like the mildy retarded cousin of the Xbox 360. Your always going to need special circumstances just to be playable and still being played on a weaker level. ALWAYS!

The ps3 doesn't actually do anything that the Xbox 360 doesn't do, ya see, look at ANY pther game out that's coming out for BOTH systems AT THE SAME TIME, not one of them, not one single ps3 game will be looking or playing better, case in point...Assasins Creed. Remember that game?

Your always going to be slower, weaker, less playable, less downloadable, less "LIVE". F A C T

[MikeGdaGod]

you made so many incorrect comments i don't even know where to start. instead of arguing just know this...you're not even close. i could go on but i got better things to do. just read the other 100+ posts and get educated

[Jay da 2KBalla]

1. Game looks slightly better because of 1 additional year of dev time.

2. Game on ps3 loads faster due to hard drive.

3. Pete Hines VP of marketing for bethesda said that both consoles are equally powerful.

4. Blu-ray has nothing to do with anything. Hines said blu-ray is only an advantage if you plan on using pre-rendered cg.

5. 360 will be getting an update around the time of shivering isles that will fix sum glitches/bugs and give a few graphical upgrades but Hines said that some of the graphical upgrades wont be making it into the 360 and pc version.

6. Oblivion on ps3 WILL NOT use six axis. What a joke.

http://www.gamesradar.com/u...

[DJ]

The PS3 version has almost non-existent load times, has further and better-looking draw distance, bug fixes, additional graphical upgrades, and higher-res textures.

It also includes an expansion pack, free of charge.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

1. You dont know what you are talking about as usual.

2. Non-existent load times? No. The game loads a few seconds faster.

3. 360 will be getting those bug fixes and some of those graphical upgrades and knights of the nine is not an expansion pack.

[MoonDust]

One year has passed and the game looks the same. PS3 is inferior to the 360, this will be proven again and again.

[DJ]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

An entire year later and some people still refuse to acknowledge the PS3's power.

[MoonDust]

?

[FFVIIFan]

This is really just a badly written article. Yea they were valid points, but they weren't godly like this article says. You're not going to get a huuuuuuge difference on the PS3. Bad article. Great Game.

[JPomper]

Oh man, that article is just reaching for valid points. 4 of the 5 were "MORE MEMORY MEANS MORE IRON" and the last had absolutely nothing to do with the 360 version.

[Jay da 2KBalla]

I read it and nowhere did it say anything about nonexistent load times. I've said it once and I'll say it again: obviously one of the rperequisites to being a sony fanboy means you have to struggle with reading comprehension.

[FeralPhoenix]

Since both sides are repeating the same things over and over again, I guess I will join the madness and paste my earlier post:

31.4 - Great post Truth....
I think a few people have already said similiar things, but I think your post just about sum's it up.....furthermore I like to stress one thing you touched on, which is; WHY should Bethesda spend alot of time and money with upgrades for the 360 version?....360 gamers have had the game already for a year its not like "anything" is going to make those 360 owners or future owners who didn't want it before now say "damm I have to get that game"....sure those who already own Oblivion "might" be willing to pay a small fee for new content but they were likely to do that with or without these much talk about "upgrades". I honestly believe this is more of an arguement to "defend the 360" than it is about which version of Oblivion will be better, which IMO there's really no need because common sense say's it "should be better" after a year....and the only reason I say "should be" is because when you are talking about videogames they almost always improve when dev's have more time on the same title, but you do always have to be a little cautious because dev's do "hype" games for release and don't always "achieve" what they say, in this case however I think these dev's will get the job done so I will take Bethesda's word for it.

If either PS3 fans or 360 fans disagree with this, please tell me why?

[Dragonopolis]

Its small miss quotes that kill a joke, comment, saying.

for instance.

In your bible, the xbox 360 has 512MB of dedicated ram is incorrect. The Xbox 360 shares its 512MB with the GPU. There is only one dedicated memory on the board and it is for the GPU - it's the 10MB edram
(Thank the Heavens that edram was included shared memory sucks! - integrated graphics on a PC been using it for years with not much success) - Think about it, you have a Triple Core Processor and a Powerful GPU fighting all for that 512MB ouch! The Fact that Xbots always wave this at Sony fanboys face is stupid. The Xbox 360 will never utilize 512MB of memory especially if the developers want the GPU to use at least 256MB of RAM. That doesn't leave much for Three Core Processor ).

On the other hand......

The PS3 has 256MB of DEDICATED ram for the GPU. the PPE on the Cell has 256MB of DEDICATED ram. Sony did a little techno voodoo and gave the GPU access to the Cells 256MB memory for that "just in-case" scenario. The "extra" 256MB from the Cell is of course never going to be fully utilize. This bridge to the Cell's memory just lets Developers squeeze the maximum amount 256MB of Memory Available to the RSX. Now if it were just the RSX and PPE on the Cell Developers wouldn't be able to take advantage of the bridge because both the GPU and PPE would be doing all the calculations and workload thus pushing the Memory usage to the max. Just like Microsoft/ATI put the edram to give the GPU/CPU memory some relief. Sony put 8 SPEs (only 7 I believe are usable) to give the GPU and PPE some relief.

This dramatically reduces the amount of workload the GPU and PPE have to do because the SPEs can actually do calculations were Xbox 360 edram well... its just that - fast memory and the CPU don't have access to that fast memory - only the GPU.

PC's have been doing fine with 256MB dedicated ram. DX10 has up that to what is the econo DX10 card? Nvidia 8800 384MB. Well, PS3 might get actually get close (but no where near as fast), but PCs don't have access to 7 superfast SPE calculators to ease the pain.

Granted, I not trying to compare Nvidia's new DX10 cards to the PS3 or Xbox 360 GPU because quite frankly they are more powerful graphically. What I trying to point out is that Xbox 360 and PS3 use Techno magic to get the most out of less hardware than what's currently available and I believe Sony's Techno voodoo is way stronger than Microsofts Techno Magic. I believe that once the Developers/Programmers get comfortable with managing system resources on the PS3(which is the real show stopper right now), it will pawn the Xbox 360 and might even keep up with the first gen DX10 cards.(may actually be able to pull a few spells even DX10 cards can't do with out a dedicated PPU)

It's true that the Xbox 360 GPU is a little (and I mean little better - it has been said they are pretty evenly matched by several tech sites) than the RSX, but the RSX has something the Xbox 360's GPU doesn't have (or any PC for that matter) - Up to 7 SPEs to do all the dirty work.

RSX + SPEs Pawns ATI GPU!

I love my Xbox 360. Gears of War is the Best FPS to ever grace consoles so far......However, I don't pretend that my Xbox 360 is the god of consoles because it isn't. PS3 isn't god of consoles either but if both were in a track meet PS3 would be the first to cross the finish-line as far as hardware is concerned. The Xbox 360 is easier for developers and programmers because the Microsoft/ATI do all the work for them as far as System management - easy yes - efficient no. The PS3, on the other hand is harder for developers and programmers because, well, they actually have to think about managing memory/system resources. However, once they figure it all out the PS3 will easily out do the Xbox 360 (and figure it out they will).

Until then! I'll be happy with my Xbox 360! (I wish I had $600 for a PS3 - anybody want to donate? I'm not selling my Xbox 360 so don't get any ideas about buying it from me xbots. The PS3 may be a better hardware machine but its not that GOOD!)

Chow!

[FeralPhoenix]

I'm no tech guy so I won't disagree with your knowledge of how GPU, Cores, SPE's and etc. work, however I do know that there are a 1,001 tech articles out there that attempt to show how they do work and I think I've read my share, the one thing that seems to be consistently said is that M$ made a "better" choice with the way the GPU in the 360 is designed.(even PSM)

Also you and I know that when it comes to tech, someone with even a little knowledge can "spin" the numbers anyway that they want and "claim" it to be the "law" to explain which architechture is better, -not saying you are doing this, I'm just saying "theres more than one way to skin a cat", -just as good. Yep, M$ and Sony have both already put out some "questionable" tech sheets explaining WHY, their hardware is better, furtunately the more "tech stuff" I read from different sources the more I'm convinced that the hardware for both consoles whether its SPE's, Cores, or GPU etc. -DON'T OFFER ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH OVER THE COMPETITOR, that will make it possible to have a game that just simply CAN'T BE DONE ON THE OTHER CONSOLE, so where does that leave us, well simple some games will look AWESOME/better ON BOTH CONSOLES, not because of the hardware (uhm of course you need hardware to render Tetris) but because of what the dev's do with that hardware.

Hell I think the more appropriate question we should ask ourselve's this gen is "Who are the top dev's?.....and just as you ASSUME(safe bet) that they will figure out how to get more out of the PS3 the same should be said about the 360, one thing to note is that the original xbox was more powerful than the PS2 and visually it showed that from day 1, so sooner or later the PS3 has to stop getting a "free pass" because of "potential" -some things NEVER live up to their FULL potential......so IMO PS3 is far from assured of coming across the "finish line" first....either way it seems that the 360 is a strong runner so far with a early lead, Sony needs to pick it up(alot) and pray M$ runs out of gas.....I fully expect a close race.

[Xi]

you're wrong.
plain and simple you are wrong.

Dedicated memory is not as useful on a console since you do not have competing programs and background resources to fight for resources(dedicating memory means the cpu is not allocating ram from the gpu), the edram is far far more useful.

the 360's r500 chip is the first dx10 card(ati did get dx 10 running on the 360) and the r600 is based off of it's design.

the rsx is faster than the cell spe's and had clock times turned down to remove bottlenecking.

the rsx un-unified pipelines mean that the gpu in the 360 is more than just a bit stronger than the rsx.

there is no techno magic.

the workloads are the same since threading 7 spe's is a lot more stressful than the 3, 360 cpu's.

spe's are built to do a lot of small fast calculations are less usefull for gaming. There's a reason we don't use 7 cpu's in pc's, it's because it's NOT USEFUL!

the ps3 may one day be called king but don't expect that to happen till 2009 at the earliest.

[kornbeaner]

I agree with everything you just stated, but by the same token outside of what we think is better, Developers who know how to use the tools given to them by either Sony or MS are the ones making these games what they are. Bethesda didn't just port it over and said here take or leave it. They worked to the strengths of the PS3 just like they did (at the time of release) for the 360. They saw that the machines were two completey different machines and worked it that way. They never once said what Epic or other Dev houses say " this game couldn't be done on said machine" (epic said that about GEARS, and i believe Phil harrison said that about Resistance). I do believe that graphics, since the GPU in the 360 is a DX10 capable Card (not a true DX10 card, the r600 will be the first for ATI) will always have that little bit more pop to it to give those games a little more wiggle room in graphics. But the PS3 will never be far behind or can be ahead if Developers were to Program with the PS3 in mind first(and works vice-versa if the 360 is first in line). And for the most part Sony has a history of making machines that are extremely difficult to program for at first but they tend to have more headroom later on in their lifecycle (look at God of War 2 for the PS2) as a PS3 fan yeah it's a little of a let down when some games don't look as good as the ones in the 360, but in the end we have more games to play so it evens out.

[TheXgamerLive]

according to DJ's linked interview.

That's not a good positive link for the ps3 btw DJ. The ps3 may have memory issues if they try to bring all available content to it. the ps3 online we all know isn't up to snuff and is also suffering.

The Xbox 360 version will still be the superior version as shown that even being out a yr. earlier is still the more complete version. A L L downloadable content will be on the Xbox 360 version.

Given they've had an additional 1 yr., this isn't at all impressive.

1 other thing. There's only 1 video out that show's how the ps3 version will look? Somethings funny here, I have a feeling that the ps3 version wont be available in march as stated. In fact, I'll bet when it does come out that there will be some problems, major problems with what's available to play and download.

Stay tuned everyone, this isn't going to go as prommised or assumed by everyone. Get ready. I bet you.

[Aflac]

then this d@mned article wont mean sh!t.

[ChickeyCantor]

i do believe there is trouble with the memory, BUT i also believe developers will understand the PS3 better and will resolve this issue, never the less i would never play this game... i dont know why...

btw...the picture where its split in 2(360 and ps3 image), all those tree's on the mountains and still looks empty :S i dont like the "level" design.( this has nothing to do with my taste for the PS3 or 360 im just saying the developer/level designer whatever! just did his job wrong!)
within the forest it looks good.

[AppleSlime]

And I own a ps3, so, I look forward to playing this. I looks really good, too.

[vettle1]

glad for ps3 owners, but they had an extra year to work on it. think about it. if it didnt look better there would be a HUGE problem with the ps3. congrats on good news/good game

[Gruffy]

Hi all - well I guess if they want to cash in on a game on a new format they will! & they will keep on doing so.
Given how much later this version is compaired to the 360, i would expect it to be better & not just a poor port over ( like EA are doing just to get some money in the bank, because of the late ps3 launch).
Untill the dev's get to grips with the code you won't see the best out of any console untill 3rd/4th+ gen games - only time will tell...

[FKN Unbelievable]

When it was a Xbox exclusive it did'nt matter to sony fangirls.

Now PS3 owners are interested because they have no other games to play.
Ya'll make me sick,I'll be glad when this sh1t folds.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

ITs jsut better get over it u 360....fanbots......are the worse....

[JHFKDFNFGJKFHDKF]

1) "GAMR" submitted it
2) Its full of non-facts (lies)
3) its from a PS3 - biased site
4) "GAMR" submitted it
5) its all untrue

[bouncybullet]

Was it better?

Nope.