Killzone 2 Demo Ready?

There is a hot new rumor today that Sony and Guerilla Games have secretly completed a playable demo version of Killzone 2..... and Sony plan to release the demo before Microsoft release their Halo 3 Beta!

Quoted from Luke Smith's Blog at 1up:

"Rumors pointed at the game's intended resurgence at their pre-launch Gamers' Day event last year. Ultimately, if the rumors are to be believed, Sony shelved showing Killzone 2 in favor of spotlighting Insomniac's new shooter franchise (and it will be a franchise) Resistance. The same rumors have pointed to Killzone 2 being much further along than previously expected -- with the apex of the rumor arc concluding that the game has been playable online for almost a year."

[Antan]

I should think a playable demo exists!!! they have had long enough. If they are holding back till Halo 3 breaks cover then they must think they have a big hit on their hands. I think, even after the the whole CGI trailer nonsense, i hope the internal optimism proves all of the doubters wrong, and we know there are many MANY doubters!

[RedGr3mlin]

This is the only game that will make the 360 and the ps3 go to true-war.

I mean

Motorstorm vs what? 360 don`t have any directly game to putt up against motorstorm on the ps3 so we don`t know witch one is better.
And none of those gams have been called Halo killer.

Then we have Resistance[<---spell check?] the game that we where told would bring GoW to the knees butt it was Gow that Curb stomped the Re.. to hell where it belong...

BUTT NOW!!!
The true halo "killer" is back, that if we should listen to watt they called the game when halo 1 was about to come out.

Could Killzone 2 be the HALO 3 killer?
let the real Game war begin!!!!

IN THE RED CORNER!!!!
KILLZONE 2 WITH HIS YOUNGER BROTHER KILLZONE 1 THAT WAS BADLY BEATEN BY HALO FOR 2 YEARS AGO!! Now his bing brother KILLZONE 2 is back to take the throne of the most beautiful gfx fps out in the first wave of games to the next gen consoles.

IN THE BLUE CORNER!!!!
2 MAJOR GAMES ( wins ;)), THE WORLD LOVE IT!, NO ONE HAVE BEAT HIM YET!
LOTS AND LOTS of BADGES and PRICES in GAME shows and MORE!!
NOW HE IS BACK!... HALO 3,,, the MASTER OF MASTERS!!!
so,,,, IS HE BACK TO TAKE THE THRONE ONCE AGAIN FROM THE "HALO KILLER"?

LET THE MATCH BEGIN!!

[Maddens Raiders]

the announcement we've all been waiting for. (head nodding down, eyes closed with loud AC/DC in the background)......///

[spacetoilet]

Hey, this game may well kick ass, but does anyone truly beleive ANY of the new consoles can do realtime graphics like that e3 video?
I don't think a current top of the line pc could even do that.

[BrotherSic]

firstly of all can we make sure we all see that this is a rumor,

secondly i just looked at the killzone cgi footage and to be honest, graphically, it is not much better than gears. Of course the scripted action is great and but graphically i dont think it is now so impressive.

One thing that does come to mind if this rumor is true, i thought great games didnt have demo versions. + I think the Sony hype machine would already be in action if this were true

[big_tim]

Halo 3 and the beta program. Does that mean that it won't be great? What about Lost Planet, Rainbow Six, and the others that have demos that turned out great.

[BrotherSic]

you misunderstood what i said, i should have been clearly in the first place,

I think it was Epic that said great games dont have demos as they dont need them (speaking about gears). Which i do have to agree with but as you say a number of games are now releasing demos as Live users are getting used to getting demos of ever game.

I also dont see Halo 3 beta as a demo, a beta involves feedback, limited numbers of users (halo 3 does seem to have basically everyone), and probably the main characteristic ... problems/flaws

[big_tim]

throw in my two cents. I knew Epic said that. I just wanted to point out that it wasn't true. I think that epic said that to cop-out of releasing a demo.

A beta is definitely for feedback. I agree. Demos get feedback, but not on the same scale.

As for me, you won't here any complaints about a company releasing a demo. Bring them on.

[BrotherSic]

demos can be great - i think Lost Planet and Crackdown proved that no end but then again for every good example there are 5 poor examples...

Motorstorm for me comes to mind, i was really happy to see a game shop in leeds with the playable demo but i was really disappointed, they should have waited and released a better version

[dantesparda]

So i guess that GRAW2, RSV, Crackdown, and Halo3 aint that great then, cuz have (or in the case of Halo3, will have) demo's. And just cuz Epic (or anybody for that matter) says it, doesnt make it so, its just his opinion, thats all, not fact. And also, if you think that the CGI graphics of Killzone only look a little bit better than GoW, then you dont know anything about graphics. The CGI graphics of Killzone (or most CGI graphics for that matter) are many generations ahead of Gow! And no, thats not what the PS3 version will look like, it can only dream of looking that good. People while i do realize that Computer/360/PS3 graphics are getting a lot closer to that quality, the fact is, its not (there yet, give it a another generation or two)

[kingboy]

i just love this...

[CG]

Just picture the disappointed faces of the sonyfanboys when they see the actual IN-GAME graphics of this games is nowhere near all the cgi bullsh@t sony has been showing. Bring on killzone!!!

[Munky]

We all know how good GOW looks, so if the PS3 and the 360 are as even as ppl are saying then why couldn't a game with similar graphics come out for the PS3. I'm pretty sure the game will look awesome, but to say it will look like the E3 showing is a little far fetched. If games can look as GOW on the 360, then games can be created to look as good on the PS3. The question is how will the gameplay be for K2, cuz not only is GOW a graphical beast, it plays just as good as it looks.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Do you recall when epic requested microsoft spend a billion dollars on 512 mb of accessible ram for each 360 to even run gears with that great graphics we all love...well the PS3 has 256 mb!.

[True Gamer]

$30 MILLION DOLLARS on this game, 3X as much as GOW, I'm quite sure I won't be dissapointed by it.

[Rasputin2011]

I 100% agree with you. Like I do not understand why a company would reveal a game at E3 with graphics that the console can not put out! Like I know that I will be disgusted if K2's actual graphics do not live up to the E3 hype.

[dantesparda]

While the PS3 may only have 256MB of Main RAM, it also has the 256MB of Video RAM for the graphics card (i know, i know , its not an actual graphics card, but rather a chip, but its how im used to talking).

The 360 has 512MB of RAM setup as "unified memory architecture". Now do you realize that in the computer world unified memory architectures are inferior setup/architectures!? Now the only reason why the 360 is able to pull this off well, rather than how horrendously it is done on the PC, is just simply because of the fact, that they are using faster GDDR3 RAM rather than the usually slower DDR/DDR2 RAM used for main memory (which is alot slower than the GDDR3 RAM used in graphocs cards) on the PC. DDR/DDR2 RAM which usually runs at 200/266/333/or 400mhz. Whereas the GDDR3 on the 360 is running at 700mhz

So basically the 360 is basically bypassing the Main RAM and instead is using Graphics RAM for General purpose RAM. Btw, most modern graphic cards have RAM that is faster than 700mhz (which btw is equivalent to 1400mhz in double data rate). So the 360 has 512MB of 700mhz GDDR3 RAM for both graphics and general purpose. Which is the same as the PS3 (the amount of total RAM), where the differences lies is in the speed, the PS3 has 256MB of GDDR3 RAM running at 700mhz (same as the 360) however the other 256MB of RAM is in the main memory and is XDR (which is a Rambus technology) and runs at 3200mhz (3.2ghz). So it becomes a matter of how fast that setup compares to the 360's setup. But they both have the same amount of memory, its just on the 360 its easier to manage the load how you want it, so lets say that the game requires 448mb's of RAM for the graphics and only 32mb's for the code, then its easier to do that on the 360 than it is on the PS3, cuz on the PS3 you would have to resort to getting the extra 192mb (448mb-256mb) of memory off the 256mb XDR main memory and the problem with that is that usually in a computer setup you would be slowing yourself down from the graphic cards lets say 700mhz RAM to the main memory's slower (let's say) 200mhz. And there in lies the problem. Its the slowing it down and programmer dont like and try to avoid it. However, in the PS3 the main memory is running at 3.2ghz, so in reality it shouldnt be slowing down, hence eliminating the problem of the PC architecture (however there are a lot more numbers that dictate the performance of these parts than just there mhz speed rating, like the latencies numbers, or bandwith numbers for example, number of bits, etc, so i highly doubt that its really running at a performance truly comparable to 3.2ghz). There are also access issues and other stuff like that. But dont think that the PS3 cant use its main memory towards graphics. What do you think AGP is all about? heck it can even be done with PCI, and these systems (the 360 & PS3) are PCIE. That ability to use main memory for graphics has been around for a long time. Its not hard to do, its just not preferred by rpogrammers because of the performance consequences.

[shotty]

You ignortaly ignoref the EDRAM the xbox 360 has which does all the antialaising, Alpha blending, Z stenciling all of which the main GPU which is already a generation ahead doesnt have to do and lets not forget the build in scaler. The xbox 360s GPU is a huge powerhouse and not mentioning that shows how ignorant fanboys can be.

[Blackmoses]

"And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat upon him was Death and hell followed with him"

lol....lmao....

[omfg_111]

... and have a cup of tee

[SPAWN]

Wait as that`s the motto of your console of choice "wait"!

[HandShandy]

Back in 2004, I remember Killzone ariving in the mail on it's launch day ready for me to unwrap and kick ass. I've been glued to the magazines and the internet sites about it for ages and it looked like the BEST thing on PS2 yet.

You know what, I was suckered into it so much - I forced myself to enjoy Killzone and appreciate most of the things in the game. Bearing in mind many things were flawed about that game.

Killzone and Halo are two totally different concepts to FPS, but what remains the same on either side are the fanboys who insist on comparing them and judging them.

I never had a damn Xbox so I couldnt really care less for what Halo looked like in comparison. I just wanted to enjoy essentialy.... "The Best you could get for PS2" at that time.

Commenting on the Article. I think there is a mammoth list of improvements I hope they have made in the new Killzone PS3 title. If I have any faith in Gurrila and Sony throwing everything they have at this title - I know it's going to kick ass. Hype really does work people, and I am proof of a living victim to it.

So what's it going to be then? Are we never going to enjoy fantastic games anymore because we have to spend endless months scrutinizing and arguing about which one is better? If Killzone PS3 lives up to the expectations that I have in my imagination - then FOR ME, It will be the best game ever created.

Until then, we do what we Sony Fans do best - we wait.

[calderra]

There's one small diference, though...
-Halo came out of virtually nowhere, on a console no one expected to do well, and quickly rose to become one of the best-selling and most-respected franchises in history.
-The original Killzone was supposed to be a great, but the actual game sucked hardcore compared to expectation, and the whole thing went down as a massive example of overhyping a crap game trying to drive sales.

I know it's a small difference, but you have to keep it in mind.

[SPAWN]

One of the ps3 fanboys admit that what they do best is wait lol!

[Gamer13]

But lets see if they use 70 to 100 percent of the ps3 power it might be possible, on the other hand it might not because its very early in the next gen - look at Gears of War that game got 10 out of 10 for the graphics department which is amazing just 1 year later the the 360 have its first true 10/10 graphics.

But yull never now what KZ 2 MIGHT bring it might be better than GOW or Halo3 or even worst than both.

IM OUT.

[Maverick]

Halo must be the most overated game ever.
Just because it was the the only good FPS on the Xbox doesn't make it
the best FPS ever, it's mediocre at best. But that my opinion.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Millions of players negate your opinion plus millions of matches played. Cverrated, is not applicable when you talk about halo. A Phenomenon though...

[USMChardcharger]

despite if Halo is over rated as you say...there is no arguing that halo changed fps.

one example is halo invented the health system that we all enjoy with most fps today.

and the same goes for the xbox. you may think it is over rated, but the xbox has made it necessary for video game systems to have online and a hard drive...which turned out good for all gamers...even if you never owned an xbox.

[candystop]

Speak for yourself buddy! I have played just about every FPS to date and can tell you with an honest face that Halo is the absolute coldest shooter to date! This is just a game you have to try and play through to get an understanding of what makes it so great! Also Riddick was a nice shooter and who could forget Goldeneye! Nothing about it is overrated and Halo3 is hopefully going to live up to the hype once again! Killzone is my most anticipated game for PS3 so it better impress and hopefully this demo talk is infact true so I can make a decision to buy a PS3!

[Rooted_Dust]

I wouldn't say Halo was overhyped, just that it was the first console shooter that wasn't mediocre on a console. Until Halo the only good shooters were on PC, but PC gaming isn't for everyone. Halo was something for the casual or more mainstream console crowd. So, while I wouldn't rank Halo as high as Half-Life, Halo was far from being overhyped.

[Maverick]

You mean the few millions that actually bought the Xbox. What about the 100's of millions of PS fans that feel the same as i do.
PS. I own a Xbox360, also overated.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Funny less people played kilzone than halo despite miillions of PS2`s sold. Because it was a terrible over hyped attempt at defeating halo.

[Silver Bull3t]

For owning a 360 you sure go outta your way to hate on it in your posts... Saying the 360 is overrated is rediculous. The 360 delivers exactly what it promises and has the best implemented features of any console to date. I'm gonna call your bluff on being a 360 owner.... what exactly do you consider to be so "overrated" about the 360? Examples?.... What's your gamertag too btw?....

[Syko]

If you even have one it would probably be a Silver account. Im calling BS on that. So Shut your mouth and Jump In before you speak son.

Funny You click on my name and there it is my gamertag where is yours ?!?

[dantesparda]

I agree that the 360 is overrated, its a good system, but i dont get the hard-on for it the most of the fanboys do, and i stayed out overnight to get it, im turned off by certain technical issues with it (too much vertical tearing, no trilinear filtering on to many games, no anisotropic filtering on like 98% of the games, barely any games running at 60fps, these are all things i was expecting out the systems specs).

Also i thought Halo 1 was a better game than Halo 2. When i beat Halo 1, it felt like a accomplishment because the boards/levels where so long and i liked the concept of the Flood fighting it out with the Covenant. Halo 2, while it had better graphics, just didnt feel as good to me, and i found it to be easier. And i beat both.

[Shadow Flare]

how sony is really pitting Killzone 2 against Halo 3. Sony's put so much money into Killzone 2, plus they bought Guerilla out. They must see Halo 3 as a massive threat and its easy to see why. Wow, both demos hitting the same time, and i would think they release the games about the same time too. I hope both games do well. Killzone, because they have something to prove, what with the E3 trailer and Killzone 1 not being so great. It would also give sony a huge huge boost if that matched or exceled the trailer like they say they have and it would dent halo 3 sales for sure. But i want Halo 3 to do well too, because halo is just plain awesome

[SPAWN]

If all of you think that Killzone 2 will live up to that trailer or even close, then you all are in for a rude awakening! Gears Of War is very close to that CGI video killzone 2 trailer shown @ E3 2005! RFOM is graphically the same as Call Of Duty 2 but with aliens! Fact, Unreal Tournament 3 ps3, isn`t graphically the same as the XBOX 360 and PC versions of that game! That`s why Epic isn`t including the ps3 version cross platform playable with the PC/360 version! So if Epic couldn`t get their game on par with that Killzone cgi video, and Insomniac couldn`t do it with RFOM, then what in the hell makes you think that they will do it with Killzone 2?! That game won`t even come close to that trailer! It won`t even match Gears Of War! Mark my words!

[techie]

Have you seen the graphics for the naughty-dgo game for ps3. They look pretty amazing - and appear to be in-game.

[dantesparda]

while i would agree that the PS3 cant look that good (as the CGI) and that RFOM cant compare to that (the CGI graphics). I gotta say that Motorstorm is looking pretty good, although the demo looked pretty bad

[timmyp53]

!!!!!!

[timmyp53]

!!!!!!

[Maverick]

Commenting on 14. Halo3 has to do well, thats microsoft trump card and they know after Halo3 there is nothing left for them. Lets face it Halo=Xbox .

[calderra]

Yeah. Who cares about Forza, Fable, Too Human, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Project Gotham Racing, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Blue Dragon, Lost Oddyssey, or Crackdown?

Xbox just = Halo.
Heh.

[MissAubrey]

you're beyond stupid.

[Anerythristic26]

You just bought a one way ticket to Ignoresville my friend. So Halo is overated and Killzone is what , a classic ?

[Grown Folks Talk]

the killzone demo won't stop 360 owners from playing the halo 3 beta, and the halo 3 beta won't stop ps3 owners from playing the killzone demo. not a big deal, just more marketing.

[Balance]

if they do it would be a bad move for sony. they should be doing everything possible to get killzone out the door before halo 3. outside of the sony fanboys no one really knows of killzone, you want to make a splash with it you have to do it when there is no competition. despite what the sony fanboys think, not matter what Halo 3 on name alone will crush any game released around the same time. same goes for the 360, any 360 games that come out around halo 3 will be overlooked even if they rock.

[Maverick]

X gamers will play Halo and PS gamers will play Killzone.
They should put both games on both consoles and after the demo's and beta's are released we would see which one the gamers prefer regardless of which console they support.
But this isn't a perfect world.

[THAMMER1]

LOL How many people bought kill zone one? I expect this game to look no better than R:FOM or maybe not. The E3 2005 has all you guys holding your breath. Well if you start to see a white light give up and go buy a 360. I like 1st person shooters. But KillZOne in not a AAA game. It just is not. They would 1-2 GIG's of RAM to match the E3 trailer. Even the most diluted Sony fan should not be this simple.

This is just another reason to laugh at you fanatics. Oh and how many Europe will pay $775.00 US for a PS3 lol. You guys talked so much crap about the 360 and while you were under a rock the whole video game industry flew past your small world.

M$ is doing gammers a favor. Sony is not unseing vaseline . LOL I can not wait to see this demo.

[MissAubrey]

if any.

[hardwood2001]

Oh man I can't wait for these two games to be released, AND to hear "DJ" twisted point-of-view on this.

Gears of War and RFOM were just a taste in my opinion.

[Maverick]

Thammer1 have u seen ingame pics of Halo3.
Yes thats right i don't even need say anything u know what i am getting at.

[Marriot VP]

yuppers, the first trailer they released was 100% ingame. If you don't believe me look at the making of and it shows you the same thing from 360 degrees different angles. Also they've shown the halo 3 footage of the alpha builds in the "et tu brute" bit.

So....yah

[BIadestarX]

You should be thankful the bubble system exists. I'm afraid that if you had more bubbles you would lose every bit of credibilitiy (if any). It's ok to not like microsoft of the xbox or to wonder if the PS3 is a better console than the xbox 360 since Sony and their fans are on waiting mode when it comes to blowing the xbox 360 out of the water when it comes to graphics, etc. First I was never a fan of Halo for 2 reasons 1) Was a Sony fanboy to the death, 2) I'm a PC gamer and wouldn't play FPS without a mouse/keyboard until I got my 360 and forced myself to learn how to play FPS on consoles. Now I play COD3 whithout bi@#$#ing about the controls. The fact is that there is that all Sony fanboys should be thankful Halo exists; at least you will get a half cooked game that will try to copy some of the features of Halo 2 in order to compete with Halo 3; something is something, but if not you sould be stuck with non-fps games. Halo it's what it is because of xbox live; it's the perfect marriage. You can hate microsoft or the xbox 360 all you want but trying to undermind Halo considering the impact it had on the industry just proves you are simply stupid and ignorant.

[THAMMER1]

Thanks BLADESTORM.

[Marriot VP]

once again, you guys never cease to amaze how you think this game, a sequel to one that was horrible across the board, will somehow blow everything away. Just because the killzone devs released a cgi trailer you somehow think it'll be the best thing ever. Don't even try comparing this to halo, cause there not the same game. How about gears instead.

WHY, when it's predeseccor cumulatively was horrible. And that's taking into account EVERY source of reviews online and offline. I don't know why everybody here insists on ignoring it. There is NO PROOF to believe that this game will be any good.

http://www.gamerankings.com

[rowdy 1]

felt that halo was for 10 to 12 yr old kids. Because the game had fantasy bombs and little crazy creatures. Plus it was to sci fi. I Never really liked it. Killzone could have been better though. It had a good story line and it was a gritty dirty type of war game. Which I like. Not a lot of phantasy like halo.

[Devastator_oftheweak]

For all of those Microsoft fanboys out there creaming in their pants at another Halo, give it up. Bungie can only go so many more times with the same thing before it gets too old. Halo was great for what it was, but come on their have been far more inovative FPS than this, just with a little lackluster in the graphics divison. The only reason why Halo has such decent graphics is because Bungie built Halo on the Marathon engine from the macintosh.

For all those who think that the CGI from E3 can't be real gameplay, I ask you to take a look at Gears, and realize anything is possible. For those who feel that resistance got curb stomped by Gears, I beg to differ. Graphically they are completely different, one is built on an engine that was pre-existing(unreal engine 3) and one was built from the ground up for a new experience.

As for Killzone 2 I have no doubt that it will be a very good game, one again built on an engine that is not Unreal 3. So Microsoft, beware your days are numbered.

[darx]

"Bungie can only go so many more times with the same thing before it gets too old."

Can't you say the same thing for most of SONY's xclusives?

FF13, MGS4, DMC4...I could go on but you get the point.

[MoonDust]

Killzone won't look better than halo. It won't play better than halo. Won't have any effect of halo.
Right now Halo is a phenomenon. When it comes out if you don't have it you are playing by yourself. W/E money SNE has put into Killzone MSFT has put more than twice that into Halo.
Bungie will come out with new and revolutionary ideas, like they did for halo 2. Everyone else will be left in the dust, like before.

[WhEeLz]

1st gen vs 2nd gen...hmmmmmmmm...it'll suck if 1st gen catches up(not to put down anybody)

[OutpostCommand]

Oh my God, people, please, just... (Refer to link)
http://www.n4g.com/ViewComI...

How can you bash Killzone 2 WHEN NO ONE HAS SEEN IT SINCE E305 ?
The point is,
Halo 3 (IMO) is overrated.
Do not bash me, its just MO.
However, the fact is Halo 3 will sell by the freighter load. No denying that. Its a great game.
Halo however, didnt get up there without being given a chance-
give KZ2 that chance, and hell,
maybe IT will totally revolutionize FPSs.
Its pretty unlikely, but not impossible.
Maybe some kind of new squad mechanic will be reinvented (I have a perfect idea in my head, but I dont think they will utilize it. I also dont want to say it, because maybe in the future, Ill keep the idea, and it turns out to be brilliant, and I end up raking in billions. You never know :P )
Harrison (sp ?) himself stated that the game looks better than the trailer, exceeding in some areas.
Ofcourse, this should be taken with atleast a pinch of salt, but do not dismiss it as fluff.
This, next to MGS, is Sonys 2nd biggest shot at wowing everyone.
You could even debate it is Sonys BIGGEST chance.
So atleast if you cant wait until the game is released before bashing it,
ATLEAST wait for some screenshots.
I assure you, MGS will be totally rock when released. Strong contender for game of the year.
And Sony is not going to allow Killzone 2 to be anything less than a considerable contender of that title.
They cant afford not to.

[darx]

"How can you bash Killzone 2 WHEN NO ONE HAS SEEN IT SINCE E305 ?
The point is, Halo 3 (IMO) is overrated. Do not bash me, its just MO."

How can HALO 3 be overated when you have't even played it yet? So how can you bash HALO 3...not that you really bashed it.

[OutpostCommand]

Whoops, meant Halo series.

[WhEeLz]

microsoft better stay on top of graphics with a 1yr lead

[Funky Town_TX]

will sale me a PS3. I could care less about FF, VF5, Motorstorm, Lair, or what ever other punk a$$ game coming out. I want to shoot someone. I will buy a PS3 just for killzone. $600 + $60 + 50 for a second controller. I'm in. THis will not stop me from playing Halo3 though. I know Killzone will copy some stuff from Halo2, but I don't care. Man I hope this game reaches the E3-05 CGI.

[GaMr-]

Brought out the most vicious of XBOX fanbboys...lol They show there colors soo easily cause every other post is "Fanboy this Fangirl that" hey I got one... STFU.. Killzone 2 has a lot to prove cant wait till it drops. I was never big on Halo not one of my fav franchises. Im one of the people that want Killzone 2 to be hot cause im not sold on the Halo Franchise. People need to juss respect it and get over there "Bill gates Shaft in my behind" approach to everything. HOP OFF SONY'S JOCK HOMIE !!!

http://www.fanboysonline.co...

[PS360PCROCKS]

haha killzone 2? It might be a nice game, maybe even a great game...but if it comes first than the Beta for Halo 3 comes out, you really think the talk will be about Killzone? Ha, hardly. Halo doesn't even have to be a good game for it to sell well, it's all name now, word of mouth, everyone KNOWS halo, a demo for Killzone won't bring the hype for Halo 3 down AT ALL. If this is true tho, pretty cool tho, I'll DL the demo and try it out.

[Dusk]

Sony should stick to their strengths. Trying to compete with Halo is just a waste of time and money. As Sony fanboys love to point out daily, the Xbox brand is known for shooters, just look at the 360's controller. It's designed perfectly for shooters, much better than the PS3 conterpart. Secondly, Sony's online is a very poor substitute for LIVE and online play is a very big part of shooters. Thirdly, Killzone was a horrible game, purchased by almost no one. Finally, Sony's lack of the achievement system. All of these things point to Killzone 2 being embarassed, and therefore Sony being embarassed, yet again.

As I said, Sony should be focusing on their strengths: platformers, JRPGs, MGS series, GT series, etc. God of War 2 should have a simultaneous release on PS2 and PS3. Sony should be pouring money into securing 3rd party games like DMC and MGS, making sure they don't go to the 360, and getting them released sooner. The ill-conceived GT4HD project should have never been, instead pouring money into GT5 and getting it released sooner. Shadow of Colloseus 2 should be funded and released sooner, rather than later. Plus, new IPs of games of these genres should be pushed by Sony, like MS is pushing new IPs for its console.

It's next-gen versions of these games that will get people to buy a PS3, not PS3 shooters. Sony decided to hype a shooter for the PS3 launch and look what happened? Almost no interest for the console. The PS3 has absolutely zero chance to compete with the 360 with shooters. The 360 will 'curb stomp' each and every one, it's the Xbox's specialty. I'm not saying the PS3 shouldn't have shooters, but those should not be the games Sony hypes. The 360 versions will always be better, look at R6:Vegas, COD3, etc. Sony needs to stop making so many horrible business decisions for the PS3 before it becomes the death of the Playstation brand.

[PS3alltheway]

I can't wait

you 360 fanboys are all the same just stf^
play your 360 man u have to wait for 1 year to get a good game GOW LOLOLOLOLOL 1 year thats a long wait

Fawk all u 360xbots play ur screaming loudest console ever built in history .
this is funny read this shyt.
ok i was planning to buy a new lcd hdtv
i bought the sony bravia 26 lcd hdtv but i had to return it cuz to small for my rum
when i came back i saw the xbox360 had
red ring light is that wat u call it? anyway b4 it wasnt like that it was green like wtf what happen .
i ask the circuit employer they said dats r 4 xbox 360 it dead always

wtf 4 xbox 360 i mean cmon man

good thing i sold my fawking loudest 360 console fawking annyoing
buzz like beeeeeeeeeee

bla bla bla bvla alb bla stf^

[Grown Folks Talk]

yet the european ps3 launch lineup is the best ever with 55% 360 games. oblivion, splinter cell, r6:v, fnr3, graw 2, cod3, tomb raider, marvel:ua, ect, ect are all of a sudden good, but they're not good on the 360

[DJ]

80% of the 360's launch lineup was PS2 and PC titles. =P

[Grown Folks Talk]

everybody wasn't saying those ps2 and pc games sucked and then became good on the 360. of course you know exactly what i meant, but had to get in your jab. i've seen you talk about oblivion and others being solid launch titles for the ps3 in europe. according to most of the other sony fans, every 360 game sucks except gears.

[MissAubrey]

youre sad.

[kewlkat007]

Was there even a Killzone 1? I've had the PS2 for a while and I never even played it. Would be nice, if this game is as good as Sony is saying it is, but what "Mass Following" does this game has? As opposed to the Halo franchise. Now we will see the same for the GOW franchise.

[kewlkat007]

That's one Sad post, How old is this kid? Anyhow I like futuristic war games but I hate using the Sony controllers for shooters. They are great for fighting games but them analog button locations, just don't cut it.

[PureGamer]

bill gates has 99 problems but b1tches aint one, killzone could be good, and yes halo is the most overated franchise ever i actually have well more fun on timesplitters 2, multiplayer wise not story wise :) anyway what is exactly stoping the development team getting to the E3 footage in terms of graphics eh? and also it looks as if killzone 2 is doing its job its attracting everyone, even if you dont have a PS3 just look at the posts most of which are xbox fanboys trying to yet again bash the PS3 and killzone and refere once again to GOW yes we know GOW is good now go away, go try and create hype on another game accept for halo and GOW please?

[GaMr-]

This is true. I have yet to see a Xbox360 article get as much love as a Sony article. Come on guys give in already. Thats not hate you have for the PS3 your just a little pissed of at it. Here give it a kiss that will make you feel better. xoxoxoxox hmmm now isnt that better. Now you mite want to wipe your saliva off its glossy black finish.

But all jokes aside if PS3 is so inferior and its doomed yada yada yada like all the 360 fanboy rants then why are you guys attracted to PS3 news like flies on shyt. Scared? Worried? Paid by Microsoft? Finished Gears and Lost planet and nothing else to do? I really want an answer im curious. I read all news cause I have no hate for any console. I hate the fanboys that praise them though.

[DJ]

so I'll just post some of the leaked information that inside-man Scrivener posted back in August 2006. So far 90% of what he said has come true, which is pretty impressive considering how long ago his information came out.
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"Lets start with the bad news - the launch lineup is shrinking. Originally, the list was 30 titles (1st and 3rd party). Currently, the list is about 15 titles (can’t get more specific because at this stage it literally changes by the hour). There is an up-side, however. The extra development time is making a world of difference. Some of you saw Heavenly Sword at E3 and it looked pretty good... that is, it looked like your typical 360 game. The team has been hard at work piling on layers and layers of detail and as of right now, it looks like ****ing Advent Children (you thought Metal Gear looked good? You gotta see this). It's also being given a God of War type violence upgrade, since they found out the graphical realism and brutality of the combat (bloodless though it was) was getting it a Mature anyway. Seriously, it will blow your mother****ing mind (although it’s sad that having really awesome graphics influences the ESRB ratings these days). The current release target is March.

Killzone 2 - This one has been MIA since last years E3. It is still in development and it is, unequivocally, the PS3s big "secret weapon." Announcements are being held back until closer to the PS3 launch as it's going to generate a monumental amount of buzz. It's one of those things that I can't get into too much detail about. However, it looks exactly like the video. Yeah. That video.

LAIR - This won't be out until next summer at the earliest, but this one is also abso****inglutely incredible. Missions basically involve unscripted AI-driven massive scale battles (we're talking Helms Deep here) and you control a single dragon and rider. The game is essentially playing an RTS with itself and it's up to you to influence the tide of the battles. This is also very dark and mature.

There was a demo, side by side, of an upcoming sports game (can't tell you which one). One was playing on 360 (DVD9) connected to an HDTV running at 720P. The same game was running on a PS3 (BD50) on an identical HDTV at 720P. The differences were unbelievable, simply because the BD has the space to hold all those extremely high resolution textures. The 360 could probably handle them, but they just plain won't fit on the disc. This is just one example of how storage capacity is hurting the 360. Of the parade of developers that spoke to us, the BDs capacity was the number one item of praise. No more having to cut corners or find creative ways to make your game fit on the disc. DVDs are just plain obsolete when you're talking about High-Definition hyper-detailed 3D environments.

On a similar note, those of you rooting for HD-DVD as the High-Def standard might want to start selling your stuff while it’s worth something. The format war was basically decided before it even reached store shelves. 80% of the major manufacturing plants have already adopted Blu-Ray. There’s also the small matter of Sony owning, directly or indirectly, nearly half of the movie industry. I could go into more detail, but I’m getting a little off-topic. The point is, Blu-Ray is here to stay and it’s not going anywhere. HD-DVD, having considerably less support at retail and among manufacturers and movie studios, is ****ed. Also, when it comes to the end-user, the Blu-Ray capabilities of the PS3 are going to be very very heavily advertised. Not only will the PS3 ensure that Blu-Ray is the most widely owned HD player in the world, but Sony is going to make sure that people know it and use it.

Go ahead and throw your tantrums if you want, it won’t change a thing. It’s just plain out of your hands. If you were rooting for the inferior technology – well, oops."
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There's a lot more, but I didn't want to make the post too long. He posted some pretty outlandish information about Heavenly Sword that, until about 3 weeks ago, we didn't even realize was true. -> The Blood Upgrade. Lair ended up being exactly the way he described. Hell, he even talked about a new PSP bundle a month before it was even announced. The list goes on and on.

So far I've seen two insiders and some dev team members from Guerilla Games hint that the game looks almost exactly like the trailer. The dev guys were talking on the Playstation forums and were very, very careful not to break NDAs. The art guy literally said "This is as frank as I can be. Pics. Yes."

BTW, anyone who says Gears of War matches that Killzone trailer really needs to either wake up or watch that trailer for themselves.

[PS360PCROCKS]

lol yes he's a genius and a prophet because he thinks everything PS is "abso***kinlutely incredible" Geez get over that post you have posted that quite a few times now. So if I went into a forum and was like "Yada yada Blu-ray is dying and is going to lose Microsoft will see that happening.

Mass Effect is the most amazing thing EVER, and looks better than anything but Halo 3

Halo 3 looks better than any game ever created, it exceeds the quality of that famous killzone cgi video of E3 2005

Ok I could keep going but you get the point, MAYBE just MAYBE he's a sony employee? Ever think of that? I dont udnerstand whats so substantial about his post anyways he says the more supported movie format will win, heavenly sword looks awesome (which we know), lair looks awesome and is exactly what we all knew, and Killzone looks like the video. Wow he's going out on a limb in that post.

[DJ]

And he said all this back in August 2006, before any information or even new screens of Lair and Heavenly Sword hit the net. This was all a month before TGS. There's a bunch of other stuff he 'prophesized' that ended up being true, but yeah.

"Halo 3 looks better than any game ever created, it exceeds the quality of that famous killzone cgi video of E3 2005"

I don't want to prove you wrong or anything, but:
Halo 3- http://media.xbox360.ign.co...

Gears of War- http://media.xbox360.ign.co...

Killzone PS3-
http://media.ps3.ign.com/me...

[darx]

What are you trying to prove with those screen shots? I can hardly see a difference between the GOW and KZ shots. HALO on the other hand is different visually.

[Columbo]

Why are you comparing Halo 3 alpha screens with Killzone 2 CGI footage?

For a better comparison, check this out: http://media.xbox360.ign.co...

Now I am actually being fair by comparing CGI footage from both games (which neither finished game will look like)

[DJ]

That was the best Gears of War screeshot I could find, and obviously looks nowhere near as good as the Killzone trailer (contrary to what a few 360 fans are clinging to). Halo? They haven't shown us the updated build yet so I'll just have to stick with that.

Compare these titles in motion and it becomes even more obvious how far ahead the KZ trailer is.

[THAMMER1]

HALO was the 1st. game that showed that the PS2 was over hyped. No game on the PS2 ever lived up to Halo 1. And that is why you Sony fan boys are so difficult now. Because you have told more lies than Sony them self.

Every 3rd. party games played better and looked better on the xbox. And now the same for the 360. And so far You KIDS are holding your breath. So like I said before that white lite is a 360 trying to save you from a $600.00+ brand loyal face plant.

But I do support true PLAYSTATION gammers who say they like it for the games and do not make wild and crazy claims that just never stack up. Better graphics where HA. PUT up or shut up. WHOES the MASTER. SHOWNUFF!!!!!!!

[SimmoUK]

Some people like Xbox games...

Some people like Playstation games...

Most people who like Xbox games are FPS fans...

Most people who like PS3 like all genre's, things like Singstar and BUZZ Microsoft will never have to appeal to a wide audience like the Wii is doing...

Microsoft are advertising there games like Mass Effect that aren't coming out till the end of the year now because there worried...

Sony still have all there ace cards over the year to play...

By the end of the year I get to laff at some of the posters here because I have it from good source that Microsoft is in big trouble after GDC not just with Killzone but something else that is going to make an appearence, i'll give you a clue it watches you LOL...

[PS360PCROCKS]

Yep simmo your so right, you know what your so absolutely correct that didn't you hear Microsoft is shutting down it's gaming division due to your post. Their so scared by the possibility that their giving up, Sony won. Your a sad sad person, Mass effect is not being advertised at all jackass, the gaming sites are the ones hyping it, they LOVE it. Your such a tool, my god, the Microsoft game line-up this year is absolutely fantastic with 1st and 3rd party games. It's fantastic before any new announcements have even been made. Let's look at BIG 1st party games for both systems real quick...

PS3 2007 Line-up
Warhawk
Killzone
DMC4 (360 as well maybe)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma (Ah, sloppy seconds)
MGS (MAYBE)
Lair
Heavenly Sword

Xbox 360 2007 Lineup
Lost Planet
Mass Effect
Bioshock
Huxley
Halo 3
Too Human
Pgr4
Forza Motorsport 2
Crackdown
Fable
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey

Hmm must I say anymore? MGS might not even be this year, NGS is an old xbox remake, and DMC might be multi-platform. This is before all announcements of course, but that just means good news for both consoles. Oh this is courtesy of

http://www.next-gen.biz/ind...
^^ xbox games
http://www.next-gen.biz/ind...
Ps3 games

Look LINKS and all

[THAMMER1]

Your just sad. Bias poor poor bias tool. M$ marketing games because they are scared? OF WHAT? You make no sense at all MAN!!! You may be able to get away with that crap at you 6th grade lunch table. But come on MAN!! LOL

[MissAubrey]

once again you show everyone here you dont know jack.

SIXAXIS V V
because you can see into the future right? and even if Killzone sucked ass you sony fans would never admit it.

[sixaxis]

this is surely going to be very good game. Damn i cant wait to get my hands on it, when killzone 2 is coming out, then it will be comparable to Gears of War. I can already see a true battle between Ps3 vs Xbox 360. And yeah, this game will kill Halo.

[Shadow Flare]

For people who wont give killzone 2 a chance because killzone 1 sucked, i could really say the same about the xbox and the 360. How many xbox's sold compared to ps2's? Yet it doesn't stop the sequal from becoming successful.

[highps3]

360 can now say good bye to having the best looking game. Have fun though Gears and the shotgun are fun... Really they are... lmao!

Killzone FTW...

[Skynetone]

Will halo kick ass

for me halo 2 was a big let down playing that stupid alien and mgs for playing raiden instead of snake {i wonder if these games are ever play tested by people how have the power to make changes in the game}it was obvious to me after my first play through

and companys when you finish a fps you need a reason to play throw again why not give the player a new weapon to play with when he or she finishs it {stupid companys give you a new weapon with about four shots so after testing it for fun you have no f***ing shots left}stupid

[silent ninja]

interesting lets see if it can even equal crysis

[PS360PCROCKS]

CRYSIS? Are you kidding me? No console game will EVER reach that this generation, Crysis looks unbelievable

[taks]

how ill this game mite be. if the trailer is anything to go bye excitement is very much due. but the last game wasnt brilliant so im not going to assume anything as this game had been previously overhyped plus sony they just have a sick habit of overhyping thier crap. im only going to be sold on this once its proved. but one things for sure if it that sick im willing to forgive all of sony's bullshit cause damn that trailer, that trailer ,shyte!

[PureGamer]

xbox360rocks you have put a new meaning to the name "fanboy".

Lost Planet (really poor)
Mass Effect
Bioshock (could be a PS3 game)
Huxley (wtf is this)
Halo 3 (overated just a tad)
Too Human (wtf is this)
Pgr4
Forza Motorsport 2
Crackdown
Fable
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey

so basically im just copying what you done to the PS3 list oh and guess what most of these games arnt even known to the casual gamer, moron. Oh and why do you always post on the PS3 section why do all of you xbots come on here you must be attracted to here. Oh and your comment on crysis you obviously know nothing, crysis can run on both next gen consoles and thats coming from your idol themart.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Read the article shi*head I took the most anticipated games from the article that WEREN'T multi-platform and put them their, so maybe you need to get your fuc*ing facts straight you jackass. First Halo3 might be over-rated, but it's still a top notch game. Bioshock is developed by Microsoft game studios so nice try. Lost Planet does NOT suck, and wait for Too Human, it's going to be awesome, and if you can all bi*ch and whine about Killzone will rock ass, than I can have faith that too human will rock. Oh and um their not known cause their new and not on their 18th iteration like most Sony games, but they will be known. Read the article

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

You sound like Halo is the best game ever, but infact it's not even the best FPS. In the FPS land of milk and honey(PC)it got pwned by many FPS. So the truth is, while it's the best Xbox game, it's just a little above average on PC. So much about your overhyped Halo. And don't even compare it to the best PS2 games, it get's pwned left and right on gameplay and innovativity.

About the graphics, Xbox and PS2 wasn't in the same gen. Xbox was developed later and had newer tech. That's not the case with PS3 and 360. Both were developed in the same time, PS3 just got delayed cause of Blu. To think 360 will have better graphics over it's lifetime is ridiculous, MS couldn't even beat PS2 graphics convincingly their later released and later developed Xbox. The big PS3 guns didn't come out yet, but one I can tell you already: It's not without a reason that reviewers are saying MotorStorm is technologically the most impressive game they ever played and this was after GOW was released ;-)

[THAMMER1]

I do like how you admit the X1 had better graphics though. Bottom line the 360 has a video gamescentric CPU and a more advanced GPU even though it is is a year older than the PS3. Your just reaching out and hoping that the Ps3 is going hop into a phone booth Clark Kent style and bust out Superman. Sorry to let you down buddy but you should just say you like Sonys game selection and nothing else.

Hiiiiiiii HATER PS3DO

[chitown]

hey xbox 360rocks you forgot
final fantasy 13
final fantasy versus
GT5
formula 1
motorstorm
ratchet and clank
jak series
uncharted (naughty dog)
mercenaries 2
tekken
afrika
wardevil etc etc
hey both the 360 and ps3 are really great consoles. leave it at that

[chitown]

never mind my bad didnt see the 2007 lineup. though u were talking about all the games

[R34GTR]

I Can see why there is soo many XBox360 Fanboy comments. Cause if the game looks and plays up to atleast 90% of that trailer. Be prepared to Eat A55 for all your hate on Sony...lol Thats why your all so scared. Cause you know there is a damnn good chance this game maybe look as good as it did in the trailer. If you didnt think that then why bash it. Let it just go down in history as another mediocre Playstation Title. just like the ooooo sooo hyped Lost Planet (8.1) mediocre. Notice no Sony person bashed the hyping of lost planet. But here you all are getting on Killzone like the Guys are Gueirrlla inc. smack yo mama !!! get over it already.

[AudioRage]

yeah i have to say, first time really reading the comments section since the sight update. and i have to admit, it has really improved!! i think its is possibly because juevani is nowhere in sight

[chitown]

hey do urself a favor and go play lost planet. it is freaking sick. that game seriously (i dont know why it good medioocre reviews ) is so much fun to play. the grapling hook is the best part. s

[hiphopisdead]

It's interesting to read all the microsoft fanboys try to fight off the sony fanboys. This news involves information about a game none of us have seen gameplay footage of yet, and already, xbox fan boys are bringing up that nothing can beat HALO.

A HALO KILLER??!! HALO 3 will be THE fps game?!?!!?

If there is anything I've learned from microsoft, is that they cannot make games. Firstly, a TRUE fps fan understands that PC fps gaming is the game to compete against. ... What is so great about HALO????? Is the story really THAT GREAT. I honestly didn't like it, and never took to it. A guy, let's call him ROBOCOP, fine... has to go to do XYZ... to save the world, universe? ok. cool. When did this become GREAT?! because there was online and multiplayer playability on a console??? ... uhh... ok fine... but now almost all FPS games are having that. So, now the only thing special about HALO is that there are people who are blindly dedicated to it (whether it is GREAT, or just o.k.).

FOR ALL THE HALO LOVERS and SONY HATERS... let's put one thing up in the air

PLEEASEE......

I think that Halo 3 should be worried about UNREAL TOURNAMENT 3. Sure, Halo 3 will sell REGARDLESS of if it is better or worse, and the microsoft lovers will biastly review HALO 3, but truthfully, I think that EPIC will deliver a better looking, better gameplay (single and multiplayer) and better full experience than Bungie.

ANYONE WHO SAYS "YOU ARE DEFINATELY WRONG!!!! HALO 3 WILL SMOKE UNREAL!!!!..." - please tell me why it will be a better game (and please don't let the previous games be a factor, I know it will sell, but why is it a better game???)

Epic games always is quick to admit that GOW could have been done on the PS3, or even on the 360. They said it would take time to port it, because they made the game specifically around the 360's achitecture (which is more like a PC's architecture).

There are 3rd party games that will confirm that both systems can look as good as one another (like UNREAL, which I am really looking forward to), then there are first party games which are really the only chance for the system to prove itself against the competitor. If Halo 3 doesn't beat UNREAL, then that just means that Bungie isn't as good as Epic.

Getting to Sony's first party contact, CAN YOU XBOX FANGIRLS calm down and give sony 1 year (as you 360 people got 1 year until your GOW came out). You want sony to push out their "HALO killers" and the 360 havn't even released their HALO... WITH THEIR FULL YEAR HEAD START!!! SO CALM DOWN!!!

Give Sony 1 year, and you will see releases or gameplay footage their exclusive games (MGS4, GT5, FFXIII, Motorstorm, F1, Getaway, Lair, and more to come)

NOW

BACK TO KILLZONE 2...

KILLZONE 2 is the fps PS3 exclusive game that, where, sony fans are not expecting to necessarily see the same thing as on the e3 vid, but are expecting to see the best looking, best interaction and best imersion of action EVER in a FPS.

And I am looking forward to this game!! since it is Guerilla's attempt to only make the game for the PS3, they should properly get use of the PS3 and it should look like the best FPS game on the PS3 (better than UNREAL's since they are working on multiple platforms).

Let's just all keep this on pure FAITH, and keep the judgement aside (talking about the xbox fanboys/girls) - i dont know why you would buy a system based on a FPS game (should have got a PC).

P.S. They should call HALO 3... HALO HD. It doesn't look like it will be revolutionary (it won't be better looking than gears, it won't be more fun than HALO 2 or FOM, and it looks like it will be a lesser game than UNREAL.

P.S.S. KILLZONE 2!!! Bring on the DEMO/Gameplay footage!!!!!

[f1r3waII K1LL3r]

Halo overrated? 8 million copies sold, greatest online game to ever grace a console which is way more than I can say for Killzone which did absolutely nothing for the FPS genre. The halo 3 demo is gonna be great, I hope for the sake of the PS3 that Killzone if it has a demo is good because Halo is gonna sell astronomical numbers anyway, Halo has proven itself just like how the xbox 360 has already proven itself in the consumer market. the Ps3 has yet to show its worth of 600$ Killzone will have to do the same which is a difficult task.

[Blu-Print]

The demo area on the PS Network has been dead since Motorstorm came out. I hope they bring it soon and I hope they bring a decent playable version of the game.

[original seed]

at me. That being said, they better deliver if they are going to go up against Halo3. IM not saying that killzone will suck, infact im hoping its great. Gears of War shows that those CGI graphics are almost Achiveable but the if Killzone can deliver on the animation then they will have a killer game. IT WILL BE A HUGE MISTAKE IF THE DEMO ENDS UP SUCKING.

[mucho 99]

they said they wouldn't reveal it until it was better than the CGI, but they could have been lying, and it will come out suck

[Maldread]

to se how close to the trailer they`ve got. But ultimately what matters is how much of the gameplay problems with the first one they`ve corrected. I don`t think it will live up to the trailer anyway.

I would hope the fps and other grapical glitches are fixed.

The multiplayer needs serious work from the first one ( havn`t played it online so can`t comment on that ).

More variation in the gameplay. Killzone 1 suffered from the same problems as Black, "only" shooting, which get too repetitive. It would be nice with a leveldesign which make`s more use of the four different characters skills than in the first one.

This all "Halo-killer" needs a rest though. They havn`t shown anything of the game yet, and based on their previous games i can`t really see it happening. It`s the press who has labeled it with all the "Halo- killer", although i would guess Sony would like it to be one ( they described Killzone 1 as a Medal of Honor type game ).

Until they show gamefootage or a demo, it`s hard to say anything about it, except that i don`t think it will be a Halo killer. Sony`s games have a way of disapointing too ( Getaway, 24, Drakan, Everquest for PS2 etc), not to say they don`t make good games too, but still.

It would be a good move for them to put out a demo of Killzone 2, if it`s actually close to the CGI-tralier, but i don`t think it`ll happen.

[original seed]

they will fall short on the AI and animation that was displayed. Everything was too perfect. I also agree with
you on the Halo 3 Killer needs to stop. Killzone has not proven to be a AAA game and is not on the same level.

[Maldread]

Yeah, i think you`re right on the AI and animation. As for the Gears of War vs CGI of Killzone 2, well i think there is some distance between the two. Not to knock Gow graphics or anything ( it probally has the best graphics in a game yet ), but it`s not at the same level. Not strange since one is a game and the other is CGI. If it`s at close to the same level as the CGI, Sony could restore some faith in the PS3.

But it`s the gameplay which needs the most attention, and i don`t think they`ve managed to correct all the errors. And if that`s the case i wouldn`t go around compering it to Halo 3.

[jules]

killzone dont have a chance...cgi dont fly...i still remember the first time i played killzone...and i have not played it since...they must be joking trying to compete with the Chief...

[geachy]

It was terrible at first. I remember seeing the jerky and akward death scenes. Everything was glitchy. It definelty was no halo killer. But then it started to grow on me.It is now one of my favorite games, along with time splitteres and BF2.

KIllzone 2 wont be glitcy or anything.The graphics may not live up to the trailer but they will be damn good.

KIllzone 2 Will RULE!

[ApocalypseShadow]

I WANT "ONE" 360 GAMER TO SHOW ME "ONE" ARTICLE WHERE "ONE" SONY EMPLOYEE SAID,"KILLZONE IS THE HALO KILLER!"

SHOW ME!SINCE YOU LOVE POSTING FACTS.GIVE US THE PROOF.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

read the whole thing.media sites pushed killzone as the"halo killer."sony pushed it as a gritty,realistic weapon shooter for ps2.and it still sold more than a million with glitches.all sony has to do is fix what was wrong in the first.the music,the atmosphere,the gun realism,art direction,stamina WERE ALREADY GOOD FOR THE GAME.people get tired.but not master chief.he's super human.never tires.

i bet it was ps2 and xbox fans who created the "killer" nonsense.

but now sony,after buying guerilla,wants to use the game to show that ps3 can have a high profile shooter just like xbox and 360.hense the E305 trailer.everyone can clearly see,even after gears of war,that it is possible to make this game.we know from tid bits that the game exceeds in some areas based on phil harrison's comments.it will come down to animation and squad tactics to make it believable.

sony is not making a bad move with making this game.it will only strengthen ps3's portfolio of games by adding to existing franchises and genres that are covered more on sony systems than microsoft systems.if a demo does exist,i want to see it. or even just video of realtime graphics.microsoft showed halo3 realtime graphics on top of a hill.BUT DID YOU SEE ANY GAMEPLAY?CG LIES BABY.but sony is held to this standard as always while microsoft gets the pass.MICROSOFT ALSO PUT OUT A (YES IT WAS COOL)VIDEO WITH MASTER CHIEF AND A SHIELD.NO GAMEPLAY.CG LIES BABY!

over 120 devs and 20 plus(we don't know the actual price)million,i can guarantee you,IT WON'T BE A DUD.

[Munky]

BUNGIE was upfront about the details of the CGI commercial. Not only did they say it was CGI, and it wasnt in game footage, but the resources to create the commercial were from in-game assets. Sony totally tried to pawn the E3 footage as the actual game, but in reality nobody knows anything about K2, no information has been made since the E3 footage...none.

[original seed]

always known to be CG. Sony on the other hand said the E3 CG video of Killzone was Real time but then was proven to be very false. So by your logic the only company using CG lies was infact Sony. This being said, I have high hopes for Killzone. I dont limit myself on Consoles and games. If Killzone delivers then it might be the factor that pushes me to buy a PS3. That and the Next ICO game.

[darx]

Are SONY known for developing/publishing any good/blockbuster games? And if so can someone please list?

[darx]

Disregard this reply...

[Voodoochild]

Ratchet & Clank, God Of War, Jak & Daxtar, Sly Cooper and Thievious Racoon, Shadow of the Colossus, ICO, and the list goes on and on.

[DJ]

Socom, Twisted Metal, War of the Monsters, Kinetica, Singstar, WRC, Getaway, Hot Shots, Parappa (I think this was Sony published), Wipeout, Colony Wars, etc.

BTW, I can't wait to see what Sucker Punch is working on next. Is it just me or is Sony attracting quite a few formerly exclusive Microsoft and Nintendo developers? Factor 5 was the biggest leap considering they've been a Nintendo company for two console generations. I'm so glad that Microsoft told Ninja Theory to get lost 'cause now we get Heavenly Sword. =]

P.S. I seriously wish I could make a sequel to Kinetica.

[Grown Folks Talk]

that made the getaway a "smash hit"

[eclipsegryph]

Fortunately I'm one of the few who don't prefer first person shooting games, so all of this flaming of each other and consoles and whatnot is just making for a really nice toasty fire to keep the cold at bay. I've never really understood the allure of FPS games to begin with - maybe I'm just not that competitive. Though that's probably a good reason why there is so much hatred and fighting going on here, in that these kinds of games live off of competitive people, so of course you're going to get some really heated up people defending their favorite FPS. :p

[highps3]

LOL, only SONY gets this many comments. No one cares about the new Mass Effect screen. LMAO!

[PureGamer]

it sold so its a hit -.-

yes and everyone has just totally owned that guy lol, he shouldent of opened his mouth.

[ApocalypseShadow]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

right here he clearly answers the question:

"Is the Killzone sequence a fair example of what people can expect from realtime gameplay on PlayStation 3?"

Jan-Bart: Yeah, it's basically a representation of the look and feel of the game we're trying to make.

didn't say anywhere in the interview that these ARE THE GRAPHICS OF THIS GAME.they are TRYING to achieve what you see.

ONE MORE TIME:

Jan-Bart: Yeah, it's basically a representation of the look and feel of the game we're trying to make.

what foolish ideas did you get from the interview?or was the video so awe inspiring that you didn't have your brains turned on to see that it was a target video?so was it being foolish or brains turned off?

it still doesn't mean microsoft is not using CG LIES TO PROMOTE HALO3.EVEN IF THEY TOLD YOU UPFRONT IT WAS FAKE.your EYES were obviously fooled with the killzone target video.your eyes are being fooled with CG LIES to get hype going for gamers to buy halo3.

i hope guerilla can pull it off.just to show sony they can pull off a AAA title.and to shut up the naysayers once and for all against ps3 being a good game system that plays next gen movies.

[ER1X]

Not bad for a console that apparently isn't selling and none of the competition are worried about. ;)

Bring on the demo! :-)

[Marriot VP]

its not the console, its the difference of opinions

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

A++ game, otherwise Halo 3's gonna wipe the floor with it! -_+

[Kastrol]

This much comments about a DEMO!!! that Doesn't Exist!
Or nobody has played or Seen

Only n4g can there be over a 100 comments on a DEMO!!! that aint been released

Where is this source coming from oh thats right LUKE SMITHS BLOG not sony or Guerilla but LUKE SMITHS BLOG very reliable news.......LUKE SMITHS BLOG?????????

[Peace]

welcome to news4gamers

[FirstknighT]

Sounds like the sony boys are desperate for a game.

[R34GTR]

Hands down most ridiculous comment I read so far.

[SimmoUK]

I've just copyed and pasted all my favourite bits from that into a word document...

Were not talking about any FPS here we are talking about a game that has physics to make Gears look last gen, come back to me after GDC and then talk to me...

In the meenwhile obviously this website is pure bias so i should fill you in on this being it never got posted here:

"*snip*

I can tell you we have 30GB versions here today and we copied two versions to each of those PCs, so by the end of it we had about a terabyte of copies over there. So we've got to get smaller - big is cool, it lets you have more environment diversity and stuff like that."

http://www.computerandvideo...

LMAO ouch Unreal is having to cut down game size for you guys!

"Chou also states that the team collected a hell of a lot of data for all the tracks, so that the tracks will be more true to the real tracks, and make for a much better overall experience for race fans. So much data in fact that they wouldn’t be able to squeeze it all onto one disc.

This leads us on to DLC content. Yes, tracks will be made available after the release of Forza 2, the ones they couldn’t fit on the disc initially. So although the 12 environments may sound a little disappointing in terms of volume of content, that will increase. Whether you will have to pay hasn’t been decided yet, and whether you want to pay or not is entirely your decision. Cars too are also planned to be released as DLC, again pricing hasn’t been decided. If the new achievement guidelines are anything to go by, buying new tracks may just net you an extra 250 Gamerpoints for you to unlock."

http://www.xboxic.com/news/...

WTF your all going to have to download tracks and parts of the game that should of fit on the disc anyway? What about all the poor core system owners? The space issue has started already it was only a matter of time but it's already going on with your beloved Forza 2 they can't fit it all on one disc so your going to have half a game. LOL sorry...

Oh dear even the most loyal xbox fans have had to admit there wronge on the space issue at other forums, but here no you all remain oblivious oh well LOL...

[DJ]

But I didn't realize that they'd choose this way out. Forcing gamers to download content that should've already been included with the game when you purchased it is just wrong. "Whether you will have to pay hasn’t been decided yet, and whether you want to pay or not is entirely your decision. Cars too are also planned to be released as DLC, again pricing hasn’t been decided."

I can't help but wonder if Microsoft's decision to stick with DVD-9 was to make more money off of downloadable content and to get more people to sign up for their online service. And with only 13GB of Hard Drive space, I can imagine people also being forced to spend $100 just to store more content that should've been included with these titles in the first place.

Not trying to get anyone paranoid, but suddenly it doesn't sound very farfetched. =/

[SimmoUK]

It's just the people on here are oblivious, i've directed you to where alot of insiders hang out before but I don't want to be posting that again to you because there are alot of people on a website like this that i don't want around, even the xbox fans are great over there they realise when there wronge and both sides respect each system. Yes the space issue is already coming into playe even the people talking about compression have changed there sigs to "I'm now eating humble pie" tasty Lol...

The comments after this news broke to us one after another including xbox fans:

"I think it is pretty funny that the game that is supposed to blow PS3 out of the water, has to limit what it puts out on the disc (due to space)...

Just kind of funny about all the bashing that goes towards Blu-ray and the fact people will have to pay more for the same game now."

"One would think this is common sense. It has went from "there is plenty of space on DVD9" to "We can compress a massive amount of data with no losses!!!" to "Multiple discs arent so bad!" and im assuming that the next step is going to be "So what if it requires the HD-DVD add on... its only $299"."

"We are finally starting to see some of the first bits of how having a higher capacity storage is an advantage.
No matter how good of compression you get you can cram only so much on a DVD9 disk"

"It took just a little over an hour to migrate into the Ps3 forums from the 360 ones!

As for my thoughts on the issue, you can check the 360 thread and my sig.

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DVD ain't big enough any more, bring on Blu Ray. Yum, humble pie. "

"I sincerely hope Forza 2's extra tracks and content is free for download . If not , i'm dragging my 360 behind my car on the way to pick up a PS3 at my local games store ."

I could carry on but this news is 2 days old to someone like me but here it doesn't get reported...

[Boink]

how fanboys can be so hyped about a game when we haven't even seen any in game footage yet?

I mean don't you think with all the bad news surrounding sony right now, if they had something that was that phenominally positive, they would've shown it by now?

[TheMART]

First

again, you don't own a 360 while you say in many posts you do

Then, Forza 2 has 47 tracks in 12 different environments. How many tracks would you like to have??? 47 sound like a lot to me dude

[TheMART]

"dantesparda - 3 Hours ago

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I agree that the 360 is overrated, its a good system, but i dont get the hard-on for it the most of the fanboys do, and i stayed out overnight to get it, im turned off by certain technical issues with it (too much vertical tearing, no trilinear filtering on to many games, no anisotropic filtering on like 98% of the games, barely any games running at 60fps, these are all things i was expecting out the systems specs).

Also i thought Halo 1 was a better game than Halo 2. When i beat Halo 1, it felt like a accomplishment because the boards/levels where so long and i liked the concept of the Flood fighting it out with the Covenant. Halo 2, while it had better graphics, just didnt feel as good to me, and i found it to be easier. And i beat both."

So are there any PS3 games running @ 60fps?

The 360 has more of them. COD3 is, Forza 2 will.

Motorstorm on the PS3 was downgraded to 720p @ 30fps. Nice

[SimmoUK]

You might learn something that's caused a real stir apart from here where it doesn't get posted...

MART I do have a 360 infact if you must know I went to a pre launch event in London 1 month before it was even available in retailers, really good party Microsoft knows how to advertise exactly the same thing with the Area 51 Launch Party.

To boink there going to show it all at GDC, there's going to be no need for hard feelings when it all comes out just enjoy what's going to be on offer.

[jwatt]

Well that fact that their is alot of hype surrounding this game and that it's going to be expensive to make I don't think Sony and guerrila are going to half @ss this game. Plus killzone on the ps2 just seemed like it was limited by the hardware. I love halo but I think killzone has a good chance of being a excellent game.

[ApocalypseShadow]

as for mart.show me any post,article, something that evolution says"WE AIM TO MAKE MOTORSTORM AT 1080P AT 60FPS."SHOW ME THE PROOF MART.don't pull out that representative that didn't know what he was talking about at CES.show me the proof baby boy.you seem to have all the facts.

also:

I WANT "ONE" 360 GAMER TO SHOW ME "ONE" ARTICLE WHERE "ONE" SONY EMPLOYEE SAID,"KILLZONE IS THE HALO KILLER!"

SHOW ME!SINCE YOU LOVE POSTING FACTS.GIVE US THE PROOF.

haven't seen one 360 fanboy post with proof.but you're willing to post lies,rumors,and bad comparisons. and N4G.com is willing to post most of the garbage.great mods.so weak some of you are that you can't stand up and face the lies you spew.

[Devastator_oftheweak]

First let me say that having both systems, they are both great, I enjoy both platforms, with each of their strengths and weaknesses, there truly is no clear winner yet. XBOX360 had some great games this year no doubt, but don't you agree that they had to have those great games to survive when the other systems did come out?

After all this year gave us all Zombie mayhem with Dead Rising, which was a blast beating on zombies. It gave us Gears of War and a new way to play a third / first person shooter with innovative ducking and running and cover styles. Lost Planet is decent, I wouldn't say that it was F**king amazing, but the graphics are pretty sharp. I will give the 360 its props because let's face it Microsoft made a great gaming machine. *Claps* well done Microsoft.

Now with that being said, they could have done much better. Instead of having to add on an HD-DVD player that only plays movies they should have included it in the system like Sony, makes more sense that way, and it should have been able to play the HD games as well. So for this give props to Sony for taking the chance to include innovative ideas in their system.

PS3, why we love you. Its the extra things that Sony does that makes us love them, and dont think that you don't love them because all the XBOX fanboys jumped on Sony to get away from the Sega Saturn and the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube. The Playstation era has and is great, we have experienced many games that we love as well as some we hate. Parappa the rappa was a bad idea, but to each their own. Entering the Playstation 2 era we had the Dreamcast, and soon following the original XBOX. The XBOX had great visuals, a funky controller and a game that most everyone would come to love, Halo. We loved the XBOX and the PS2. Now we are at the crossroads of another war between systems, PS3 vs. XBOX360 vs. Wii(though not a true contender). So who's graphics are better? Neither. They still showcase amazing things on both formats.

XBOX360 PS3
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Gears of War
Halo 3
Blue Dragon
Lost Planet
Dead Rising
Resident Evil 5
Unreal tournament 3
Mass Effect
Crackdown

Grand Theft Auto 4

PS3
=====
Uncharted
Haze
Heavenly Sword
Resistance Fall of Man
Killzone 2
Final Fantasy XIII
Devil May Cry 4
Metal Gear Solid 4
Resident Evil 5
Unreal Tournament 3
Tekken 6
Motorstorm
Grand Theft Auto 4

There are many games between the two that are exclusive and others that are not, each has yet to prove its power, but to quote the various developers, the PS3 is only using 20% of the cell.

for what its worth I do believe that the extra effort that they put into it will make Microsoft come out with another gaming system sooner than they hope.

[Violater]

Its just a rumour untill sony or Guerilla games confirms it, and the last time i checked Guerilla games team is still looking for people to work on the game

[The BS Police]

Look back at Killzone 1, it was no halo Killer, and I don't expect Killzone 2 to be a Halo Killer either.

No Game has ever overhadowed the magic word HALO!

Halo 2's release date on November 9th, 2004 was the biggest day in entertainment history, outgrossing every single blockbuster movie on their respective opening weekends in ONE DAY!

[FKN Unbelievable]

When Killzone 2 been a No-show for 2 years and ya'll still keep hyping up? Its obvious that Anyone Who Dislike Halo for petty reasons are:

1) Sony Fanboys
2) Wish Halo was on PS.
3) Never Played Halo 2 online.
4) Never played it in the first place.
5) Is Mad Because the Greatest FPS Came out on Console First and not your Precious PC.

Halo is the Reason Why FPS made a Comeback on Consoles in the First place. Matter of Fact Halo 2 is the reason that i start playing Xbox, I was So mad when Dreamcast died i hid. Far As PC Goes They still Could'nt Get it Right With Matchmaking on any Shooter like Halo 2 service. How many Shooters on PC made to Console and still performed decently? I for one Say the whole lot of them made to xbox and 360 and lived to expectations. The only other Shooter to Fuk with that of Halo IMO is Half-Life 2. All that Talk about KZ2 Killing Halo 3 you Clowns need to stop it Cuz at this Moment Halo 2 is still a problem for most FPS.Just as much people who play GOW more still play Halo 2. Keep Putting KZ2 higher up than it belongs when falls it will hit the ground hard.

[jerseynets04]

AGGH! OH MY GAAAW-SSHH! cant wait to have and play this game its looks so friggen schweet, the first killzone had awesome online gameplay, and it was truely an under rated game. this game looks even 1,000,000 x's sweeter. its ganna be off the hook.

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

I don't read 360 news, but I'm laughing my ass off about the Forza 2 link you posted. All the 360 fanboys that defended DVD9 and bashed Blu look now like idiots. Hey Marty how do you feel now after spending weeks saying DVD-9 is enough while bashing Blu? 12 tracks and out of space LOL there you go buddy, have also fun downloading stuff to your 20GB HDD haha

It looks now Blu = more space was Sony’s best decision and will pay off for the gamers even if it fails as a movie format, what’s of course very unlikely.

[jerseynets04]

ive played both [halo], online, and the gameplay really isnt that amazing, i find the maps on killzone online better, halo is fun, but its not goddly, i own a 360 right now ( SENDING IT IN FOR REPAIRS FOR A SECOND TIME IN LESS THAN 3 WEEKS ), ive been playing CoD3, and Gears, and Rainbow6,( my xboxlive gametag is PureOriginal so that you KNOW im not a sony fan boy trying to make 360 sound bad without judgement ) of the 3 i like r6LV the most as far as online play. but i had killzone , and if the previews for K2 are anything like the real gameplay, im ready to let my 360 collect dust. im ready for killzone 2

[jerseynets04]

and about downloading movies on xbox live, the movie selection is... not great, and the 20GB HDD, i wanna smash it cause its causing my xbox to freeze, i bought a monthly xboxlive membership, and i can even play the whole trial out. in the 1 1/2 month ive owned a 360 im really not impressed with realiability

[FKN Unbelievable]

"12 tracks and out of space LOL there you go buddy, have also fun downloading stuff to your 20GB HDD haha
"

Who Would'nt Mind? Soon as the 100Gb HDD Comes out it will be even sweeter. This Comment is all unnesessary PS3 Still Pwned itself.

[gnothe1]

this is just one web site that had killzone hyped as the halo killer!! http://www.subgamers.com/fo...

[shotty]

First Killzone 1 was supposed to be a Halo killer and that flopped and now this. Is it going to have 2 million gamers line up for killzone 2,are people going to play it after 2.5 years and a system change, is it going to spawn novels, movies and leave a mark on a generation of gamers. Think of all this before you make these remarks. Killzone like all sony's games will be sadly forgeten after a month (not hating but honestly what does sony have first party wise).

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

How? In case you didn't know it, PS3 is doing better than 360 did last year and that without Europe ;-) But the true 360 fanboy nightmares will start when the big guns come out and the price drops(65nm Cell).
As I said have fun downloading to your 20GB HDD and while you do it, ask yourself how much MS will charge for 100GB if they already demand $99 for just 20GB. $499? Nah just joking, I expect something in the $150-$200 range...damn it's getting pretty expensive for a 360 owner or is 20GB enogh for the next few years?

Sorry buddy, but 360 will need the gigs more than the PS3. Reason: Your holly DVD9. Talkin about loading times, I hope you are aware that 360 reads DVD9 slower than PS3 Blu. Hell I'm not even sure if the loading times on DVD are better. PGR3 anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

LOL

shotty - Are you serious? You must be kidding buddy or you are completely delusional. Sony pwns MS easily when it comes to 1st party games.

[Antan]

Nice vid, however if you have played PGR3 you will know this video is showing someone playing the online portion of the game, the delay is of course just waiting for the other participating players games to start, due to differing connection speeds. Sinlge player aint so bad, though still somewhat sluggish.

[FKN Unbelievable]

With that fanbase it better. Nonetheless how many of them are dissappointed that 95% of the launch titles Perform better on 360 than PS3? Or the 65nm chip thats gonna cost more when sonee already lost money?

"ask yourself how much MS will charge for 100GB if they already demand $99 for just 20GB. "

Technology Goes down in due time Thats why it is optional bro. But Sony will need all of the gigs it can get like an out of work singer.
Especially when you need to Load 70% all of the games on the harddrive FOR FASTER LOADING TIMES.

[The BS Police]

Sure maybe Killzone 2 may look better than Halo 3 (KEYWORD: "MAY").

Eitherway Halo 3 wins because the gmeplay in Halo is unmatched by any console shooter released to this day.

Graphics are not everything, and Halo 2 is living proof of that due to the fact that it took two years for Halo 2 to get knocked off the number one spot on Xbox Live!

[Genki]

as much promise as the trailer did. First game was riddled with bugs, but in many areas, it was clear that we were dealing with a competent team of developers, perhaps they were simply ill-equipped. Whatever the case, this game almost has to deliver, otherwise I foresee many Guerilla employees looking in the classifieds by next year.

Again, I just hope this turns out to be a fantastic game, it sure as hell looks fun.

[ApocalypseShadow]

THAT WAS A GOOD TRY.but if you READ,i said name "ONE" SONY REP,"ONE SONY GUY FROM SONY THE COMPANY.NOT POOR WEBSITES.NOT YOUR FRIEND,NOT A MICROSOFT REP.SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT REPS SAYING"KILLZONE IS THE HALO KILLER."

let me help you.....YOU WON'T FIND IT.

MAGAZINES PUT OUT THAT CRAP.SITES LIKE IGN PUT THAT CRAP OUT.

i want a demo.i want guerilla to show us they have the ability to WOW us with their programming skills.this is no longer the little leagues.they are playing with the big boys.big money big boys.that's why they hired so many people.

as for FORZA 2.it is funny what simmouk posted from microsoft themselves.see his post above.CAN'T FIT ALL THE CONTENT ON ONE DISC.OH THAT BLOWS CHUNKS.DVD9 MUST BE HUGE TO STORE ALL THOSE RIBBONS.WHO NEEDS BLURAY OR HD-DVD WHEN YOU CAN PUSH PEOPLE TO DOWNLOAD THE REST OF THE GAME.HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! THE REST OF THE GAME!HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[R34GTR]

"55 -
hey do urself a favor and go play lost planet. it is freaking sick. that game seriously (i dont know why it good medioocre reviews ) is so much fun to play. the grapling hook is the best part. s"

I know exactly why. 4 hours of gameplay. 12 missions and lame story. thats why it got mediocre reviews.

"# 74 - DAMN, 130 comments for a demo???
Sounds like the sony boys are desperate for a game."

Is this guy freaking kidding me.lol Read the comments tough guy the majority of them are Xbox fanboys attacking the PS3 "DEMO" as you soo put it. Sony Fans desperate for a game, come on dont make me laugh. no. wrong. Xbox boys shytting bricks over a Sony Demo is more like it. Go ahead deny it. But you know its the truth and why there is sooo many comments on this article. God I love how hypocritical fanboys get. Dont forget to pray tonite. Repeat after me:

Dear ( insert religious figure) Please dont make sony's game look as good as the Demo they showed at E3. Because if that happens then I have to save up money to have Bill Gates nutz surgically removed from my chin and hope I still have change to afford a PS3. Please Please dont let this happen.

[FirstknighT]

So are you full of anger outside this website or just in here? You sure do complain and whine alot. How about trying to say something with a lil more intelligence. Your just adding to my theory that most sony boys in here have nothing intelligent to say. But I still get a good laugh from it, so keep it coming slappy!

[Hymons]

"# 74 - DAMN, 130 comments for a demo???
Sounds like the sony boys are desperate for a game."

Like your post above was intellegent? Heh.. please.

[jwatt]

There will not be a halo killer but doesn't mean that killzone will suck, just like there can be no gta killer but their can be other games like that are good. I think killzone is going to come out pretty well.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Halo didn't change ANYTHING! I was so freaking disappointed in it. I'd been playing better FPS's on my PC for years...and THIS comes out...and freaking sucks. Whoever said that Halo is overrated is right...it was just the best FPS on consoles. It's not anymore...and we'll have to look past that. Once Unreal III and KZ2 release...I don't think Halo 3 will be an option anymore.

You're all setting yourselves up for dissapointment...

I believe KZ2 will be incredible...and at LEAST as good as the E305' trailers. Trust me...

[kornbeaner]

that this game can deliver a worth-while performance. With all the money invested, this game can very well mean the differnce between moving into 1st place and trying to find your way into second(for the PS3). This game doesn't need to be a halo killer it needs to be a game that can be played for a huge amount of time and a game that is Great enough to move a couple million units. If this game fails to do so it's gonna be considered a HUGE failure.

[Booneral]

Lol people comparing Killzone CG video to Gears of War and Halo 3? That's amazing, why dont you also compare Motorstorm CG and in game videos? This is miserable...

[Asuka]

1. Killzone was never a "halo killer", and never tried to be. Guerrilla said that they have nothing to do with that, and it was all media hype.

2. Killzone was a decent game, not crap like most people refer it to be. Last i check a 6.6 is a decent score, obviously not great, but it isn't crap.

3. This demo is all good news and all, but its just a rumor till GG confirms this.

4. Killzone PS3 is technically "Killzone 3", because Killzone: Liberation was considered to be KZ2, as what GG had stated on the PSU boards.

5. No where in this article are the words "halo", "Microsoft", and/or "Gears". Mentioning these words has nothing to do with the article, and only causes flaming.

6. Halo and Killzone are two completely different FPSs with completely different art direction. Halo being the sci-fi, futuristic, legendary warrior theme. While Killzone is a gritty, dirty, near future war game. The only thing practically in common between the two games is that they are both FPSs.

7. Do not flame each other here and flooded the comments, if you must flame, take it to the PMs, Thanks.

[kornbeaner]

but sony did and it hurt sales and the final score the game got. I personally would've gave the game a 7.5, but sony started the whole "Halo killer" tag and thats the hype that surronded the game at a point where Halo was just to fresh and dominant for a game to even be labeled that was almost suicide since it didn't devliver that experince.

[The great 1]

I read the posts above it would appear Xbox 360 is still using dvd9 and not HD-DVD does that explain why COD 3 game looks slightely better, thee using dvd something developes have like 8 years experience with, not to mention the fact i think MS has holded out on you people,isin't it alarming there still using DVD when they should be using HD-DVD, i reckon it's because you people will have to buy the HD add on at $299, i mean why else would MS announce a new Xbx 360 with all these features added in with it's apparently 10M+ userbase already, the answer you will have to buy an HD-DVD add on, how else can you play a game that requires an Hd-dvd disk?

[the_bebop]

Microsoft has said that people wont be using the HD-DVD drive for games, that it will only be for movies.

[RuffRyder]

First of all you need to go back to school and learn propper english you dumb ass.

The HD DVD drive is for MOVIES not GAMES get that through your thick skull.

The HD DVD drive isnt even needed to watch HD movies since we can download full HD movies from the video marketplace, so no-one needs to spend more money to buy a HD DVD drive unless they really want one.

"I read the posts above it would appear Xbox 360 is still using dvd9 and not HD-DVD does that explain why COD 3 game looks slightely better, thee using dvd something developes have like 8 years experience with"

Oh man your dumb, that comment just tells you all you need to know about the sony fanboys!!

You need to STFU..

[Maddens Raiders]

"if you dont know, now you Know..." This is the same thing that has been happening and will continue to happen with this game. The people that don't play nor pay attention to KZ don't realize how much of an underground sleeper this game really is. Do you think it's become a cult phenomenon on accident?
Think about it: if you haven't played a game, you're not interested in it, or just heard about how "horrible" it is through word of mouth, you don't know -Jack- and simply are not aware of this game's huge draw to the hardcore gamer. It offers brilliant grittiness, a steady dose of action, and fraggings galore, plenty of weapons and good online support for a 2004 PS2 game. In a matter of fact summation; either you're into it [KZ] or you're not and people at SCEI and PS fans know how popular this game is in the community. People are always on in the lobby, ready to GB, the rooms are still full to this day. It rocks.
But hell, what beats, Good 'ol fashioned, heavy recoil, dramatic reloading, blood filled frag festing - Man vs. Man, ahem.. Helghast action anyway? No wierd man vs. alien vs. alien vs. man storylines here. Just good 'ol fashioned humanesque gore. The storyline (and MUSIC) are great and will be expanded as it has been in Liberation. Again the music in KZ is f**in Classic. This game is going to sell thousands, maybe millions of PS3's. With episodic content available it could possibly just offer that extra edge of GOTYness. I predict a Greatest Hit and potentially a GOTY nod if Guerilla does this game *right. Again, I beseech you to understand, that this game is a movement that is taking place by millions of people, most of which aren't on this site, but are glued like flies to the PlayStation Killzone forums (check the user reviews at GAMESPOT -- yeah they're like almost three times higher than the initial review based on those that "voted"). Believe me, KZ II will set the standard for PS3 games going into 2008-9 and beyond. The stuff we'll see in this game will be beyond eye-candy. It will be AI, object deformation, lighting, and weapon, and vehicle mechanics that have not been seen until now. This is the coup de grace for the first generation of SNE titles. The hope of an entire console's next - generation of gaming lies within the mention of this game's name. What hopes will be dashed? Dreams destroyed? KZ II holds the answers. Ready, set, game.

[FKN Unbelievable]

All because you manage to get you point across without mentioning Halo or bashing it. I like the Fact you Know Halo can't be Fuked with and understand Killzone is a Good Alternative. Its Almost like how i feel about Black. Can't Fuk with Halo but it is a good alternative nonetheless. I wish Everyone felt that Certain games can be in a class by themself and only spawn Alternates. Now i just finished watching video for this game and while it looks good move decent the Physic could be better and the online play looks rushed. This game Reminds me of Black i play though cause im a fan of FPS. Anyway This game Could be the Halo of the PS2 cause it the only FPS with a Decent online But believe you me this has nothing on Halo 2. Since you Sonee Fanboys won't give anything else a try thats not sonee i can understand why this game is heavely touted as a Halo killer.

[DC RID3R]

games FULL STOP! And when I say games, I mean "big man" stuff, and less of the little 7-13 year old little kiddies ip's like ratchet+clank, ape escape!

Releasing a killzone 2 demo would definitely alleviate some of the backlash the PS3 has been receiving, especially for the more mature gamer.

For sony's sake, they need to get the "train" rolling and up to speed a.s.a.p. Otherwise..................... ... se la vie

[jerseynets04]

Madden said it best. i was an daily online player of KZ and the online play and community wasawesome and no other game has topped it so far. i almost drew a tear when i read when he said people are constantly talking in the lobby and playing GB's GB's were a pain in the ass lol. but KZ truely is a sleeper and i think IS a cult game. too many people listened to the critics and didnt bother with the game, but until you played KZ itself including the online play i dont tihnk you should bash it. its an awesome game and has had the best online experience ive had thus far and i swear everything on that comment. ive played Battlefield:MC not as good. played CoD3 not as good. Played Gears of War, its an awesome game, but the online experience stillisnt as good, the best gameive played on LIVE and i AM addicted to it is Rainbow6:LV its an awesome game, but my experience on KZ is still my fave

[FKN Unbelievable]

Jersey but Halo 2 tops everything for me. GOW is cool but it needs matchmking badly.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Halo 2 tops EVERYTHING....EVERYTHING???

Unreal 04'?
Quake 4?
Half-Life 2?
F.E.A.R.?
Resistance?
Battlefield 1942, 2, and 2142?
Counter-Strike?
Painkiller?
Alien vs. Predator 2?
No One Lives Forever?
Wolfenstein?

How is Halo 2 even in your top 5?