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Gran Turismo 5 crash damage proving a troublesome issue

Kazunori Yamauchi, CEO of Polyphony Digital and creator and producer of the Gran Turismo series, has apparently said that they are are still in talks with with some car makers, including Ferrari, to allow their cars to be subjected to crash damage in the game.

The head of 'Ferrari Challenge' developer 'System 3' said earlier this year that convincing Ferrari to put damage on the cars was a "big challenge".

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mboojigga5643d ago

Wouldn't hurt for them to go to talk to Turn 2.

The gaming GOD5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

The GT5 makers KNOW how to do it.

They are talking about actually being ALLOWED to do damage. They are referring to the fact that some makers still aren't allowing them to put damage on the cars. Such as Ferrari. This goes back to even the ps2 days when some makers said Polyphony makes GT too realistic and don't want their car interiors exposed by having car damage in the game

You have to read the links rather than just the headlines man

MaximusPrime5643d ago

mboojigga, you are one example of laziness

pwnsause5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

" Wouldn't hurt for them to go to talk to Turn 2. "

When will you idiots realize that Forza is comprised of Arcade Damage???

Yamauchi wants to put realistic damage in GT5. Read my words: REALISTIC. its obvious that Car Companies dont like REALISTIC car Damage in a game, that could hurt their reputation. want to see a Car damage in Real life in a Ferrari??? take this Youtube video. Thats the Damage Yamauchi wants in GT5, not some cheap car Damage.

This was one of the reason why we do not see Car Damage in the GT series. Not to mention one of the Reasons why car companies like Ferrari and Lamborghini we not in previous iterations of Gran Turismo (except in Japan.)

Aclay5643d ago

"Wouldn't hurt for them to go to talk to Turn 2. "

First of all, it's Turn 10, not "Turn 2".

And second of all, Gran Turismo is on a much higher level than Forza.

Danja5643d ago

This was stated awhile back as the reason GT series didn't have damage to begin with...

but would really love to see it in GT5....

Funky Town_TX5643d ago

any excuse is complete BS. Go ahead and defend them all you want. A sim without damage is an arcade racer. I know the Sony faithful will kill me but so what.

INehalemEXI5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

The Sony faithfull want damage too.... Like the article says and others have said before it.

The issue is the car company's like ferrari in particular are hesitant to give the authorization for there cars to be wrecked in a driving simulator probably for fears of someone playing it and saying hmmm these other cars are a whole lot safer lol.

RememberThe3575643d ago

So Burnout isn't an arcade racer because it has damage? OK...

SnprSlick5643d ago

You took his words out of context.

If you wanna call your game a simulator, you have to have damage. GT5 does not have damage. Therefore, it is not a simulator.

Burnout calls itself an arcade game.

RememberThe3575643d ago

For it to be a simulator all it needs to do is try to replicate the driving simulation. That is what it does. Damage would add to the simulation but it is not the pivotal piece, such as how road conditions affect handling. I'm not defending the lack of damage, I'm saying that the logic is faulty.

Tarasque5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

In the pic wonder if thats the one Eddie Griffitn wrecked.

Fan Tastic5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

And of course give us the crapola floaty physics as well. The damage in Forza 2 is horribly implemented and not even close to realistic.

C_SoL5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

You just made yourself look so stupid.

Read the damn article before you make assumptions.

Oner5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

Those who think Forza's "crash damage" is realistic and qualifies it as a sim are bold faced lying and sorely mistaken. How is it you can crash into a wall at 150 mph or get into a head on collision and drive away with only your bumper missing? If that is the kind of crash damage that makes a "sim" I prefer it not being there at all. That's a band aid and not a fix.

The fact remains that the DRIVING physics (which is what you do...DRIVE) in GT5P is unmatched by Forza. Whether Ferrari allows a physical representation of crash damage or not does not mean GT5&P will not have crash damage all together.

Here are some examples of Forza's ever so accurate rendition of crash damage ~ /sarcasm /rollseyes /etc.

Skip to 1 minute and see a head on collision WITH NO DAMAGE
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Whole video is just really bad
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

And my favorite the "coup de grace"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

If running up to 6th gear at more than 175mph into a wall only dents your hood is considered "realistic crash damage" then we absolutely know who is biased and blind to the FACTS....

Lastly watch this video and tell me that it "pwnzorz GT5P"
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

No way, no how, not ever. That looks & plays absolutely horrid. Good luck with that dual layer DVD giving you the best available space for more features, better graphics and options...

plain rice5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

No sh*t Funky town. Nobody here is saying we don't need crash. We do want crash simulation. And when I say crash simulation I mean a realistic and dynamic one. Not no Forza 2 arcade style tacked on crash. You may call the GT series a SIM or not but it is the closest thing you can ever get realism in a driving video game.

BTW mboojigga, you're a joke man.

pain777pas5643d ago

Turn 2 still have a ways to go to become on the GT devs level. Look Forza is fun and the custom paint jobs are awsome nudies and all but seriously I got bored of the game it lacks style or soul or something. In other words it feels like a knock off. If GT devs include damage you'll see that they will do a superior job as always. YOU can't top the originators. Look at how hard SNK has tried in the 2d fighter scene and yet always come up short to the SF series. They are close but never get it right.

killedinaction95643d ago

WTF???

Damage in not ON.If you knew anything about forza you would know there are different settings for damage.Its not just ON or OFF.If the settings were set to "realistic" then 1 small mistake and you're out of the race.

Well done for owning yourself.
Also thanks for posting some of the crappiest videos on YT.

I think we all know "who is biased and blind to the FACTS...."
LOL

Horny5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

^killedinaction9 is right!

Damage in those forza 2 videos was set to minor or cosmetic so it just shows scratches.
But I do admit forza doesnt have the best crash physics even when they are turned on.

SL1M DADDY5643d ago

There is a reason the GT series is a billion dollar franchise and Forza is not. People love cars and they love GT. If you like to hop up cars and put cool paint jobs on them you buy games like Need for Speed or Forza. In the end, the crowd that is solid GT fans don't care much for Forza and those that like Forza typically don't care for GT. It's a fanbased game and they are both built with the fans in mind.

fezthabest5643d ago

Dude Gran Turismo series is a DRIVING simulator, not a CRASHING simulator. And anyways forza's only damage is what scratches when going like ful out on 6th gear WOW. They want a more burnout style damage system, probably even more dynamic.

JasonXE5643d ago

lol people still think gt series is sim. Oh that made my day lmao.

prowiew5643d ago

I hated the Gran Turismo and Forzas series. I hate sims. But really, GT needs to implement, at least, some kind of damage. Something!. It just looks like an old game, racing to walls or whatever and the car is still shiny!. Bah. Im a hater. Hate sims. Stick to motorstorm. Just more fun

Oner5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

@ killedinaction9 ~ I have Forza 2, I played Forza 2 but just watch this video that will show my problems with it & with M$....

Oner5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

@ Lazy ~ I wouldn't know, I don't beleive in karma. I got my 360 for free because it had RROD, spent all of $3 to fix it and call it how I see it. The 360's known & proven hardware issues goes to show it's not worth the "supposed" value & ever so "great" console it is touted to be...

But I just fixed it, AGAIN with 4 additional pennies (as I had only done the 8 penny not the 12 penny mod), tightened up the replacement X-Clamp mod screws a bit more, and added one more LLamma mod (aluminum foil on half the GPU http://img159.imageshack.us... but cleaner) If it happens again I only have either a 12v fan mod or a talismoon fan replacement (and I am not spending another dime on such a POS hardware component F that!).

As for the crash damage being not on sim...in the vids above, sure fine but you honestly beleive even the cosmetic represents reality? Though additionally the fact/point remains even in "sim" mode you could still drive away from a 150 mph crash into a wall and it will only show MINOR damage to the bumper & hood. Or do I have to video record it to really shut some people up?

killedinaction95642d ago

1.24 yeh i have my problems with MS too,but I also have problems with Sony.
I've had 3 RROD's too LOL.

1.26 there's a reason why you can't drive real cars in Burnout.

and if you're wondering i'm a big fan of the GT series as well.Who else do you know that's finished the 24hour Nurburgring endurance race in GT4 without the cpu driver.

power of Green 5642d ago

*Ferrari Project* is superior to both games anyways.

Oner5642d ago

Mmm yeah sure....

This

http://www.autogaming.net/c...

is better than this

http://img229.imageshack.us...

Good luck with that vast Dual Layer space ability. Oh and BTW can you back that claim up with ACTUAL gametime play? Nope. Didn't think so.

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P5643d ago

GT5 looks so realistic you'll literally sh*t yourself when you see a Ferrari crashing into a Wall

lokiroo4205643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

Gran turismo rules racing.

Snukadaman_5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

I think you actually sh1t yourself when you realize what a piece of ass the ps3 is....its called buyers remorse sh1t....you actually sh1t yourself.

"Snukadaman
It's funny an xbot talking about buyers remorse...dude you bought a 360 the most unreliable console ever created...nothing more to say"
Yet im not remorseful in buying my xbox elite....what a dummy.

Danja5643d ago

It's funny an xbot talking about buyers remorse...dude you bought a 360 the most unreliable console ever created...nothing more to say ..

Kleptic5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

haha...snuka called a PS3 'a piece of ass'...you're a freak man, stay away from me...

JBaby3435643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

Snuka doesn't like bubbles apparently. BTW you're not worthy of that avatar. Stop having him associated with a RROD fanbot making a fool of himself.

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MaximusPrime5643d ago

i would like to see the realistic damage of a ferrari, just like the one in the picture.

Bob Dole5643d ago

Bob Dole wants slow motion crumpling of a 300 thousand dollar car at 200mph into a brick wall.

God damn that just sounds so sexy.

Liquid_Ocelot5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

bob dole is the sh*t

On-Topic: GT5 w/ Damage FTW!! I wanna crash all the cars :D

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I hope they put some Bentley's, Maybach's & Roll Royce's in the game :D

poopsack5643d ago

man i wish companies would just be okay with it. I mean people arent buying your car to crash it into a wall. especially the expensive ones you can find in this game.

JBaby3435643d ago

I think lack of funds rather than "the cars are unsafe at high speeds" is the primary reason most people don't own these cars.

smurfie45643d ago

Once it is implemented, one of the few criticisms about this game will go away.

NipGrip5643d ago

The game is based around realism and sometimes, realism isn't "fun" in gaming. Imagine racing a 3-5 lap race online only to have some sore loser crash into you and it damages your wheel to the point you can no longer race. In real life, when a car hits something even at 30MPH, it can cause enough damage to render the car useless. To keep things as realistic as possible, adding car damage would be no fun for many, many gamers. It's not Burnout where your car magically reappears. Busting your tie rods from a side hit would be the end of the race for you. I imagine the game turning into crash 'em up derby and the last one to survive goes on to race the final 4 laps by himself.

Has noone thought of this yet, how realistic crashes would totally ruin the fun?

RememberThe3575643d ago

They have probably thought about that.

FantasyStar5643d ago (Edited 5643d ago )

I want PD to do as much as they can to make GT5 as realistic as possibly can be. Gearheads like us totally dig the realism, but hate it when stubborn fools like the Ferrari makers won't come to terms.

Tarasque5643d ago

Crash em up derby would be fun unlike the actual game though.

Man_of_the_year5643d ago

Well Forza 1 & 2 both have damage and thats an awesome game. Ya there were a couple of d1cks online that would not care and try to hit you but the next round you just kick them or play with people you trust from your friends list and just race with them.

Having damage allows for greater gameplay and a more realistic experience.

sloth4urluv5643d ago

Forza has damage, but you can always turn it off so its only cosmetic.

DaTruth5643d ago

That's why I never liked this game after GT1. Once it became realistic I just had no interest in it anymore. It's like playing a shooter, you get hit once in the leg and can't walk anymore then you get shot whilst crawling around on the ground... Realism is no fun!

Bubbles for NipGrip!!!

Bob Dole5643d ago

Surely there will be an option to turn it off. Or change the damage mode from arcade to simulation just like the driving physics.

Liquid_Ocelot5643d ago

DaTruth - 9 hours ago
"""That's why I never liked this game after GT1. Once it became realistic I just had no interest in it anymore. It's like playing a shooter, you get hit once in the leg and can't walk anymore then you get shot whilst crawling around on the ground... Realism is no fun!

Bubbles for NipGrip!!!"""

@ DaTruth:

I guess you wont be playing Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising in 09 =)

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PlayStation 3: chasing the 1080p dream, part three - Gran Turismo 5 and the indie explosion

From Digital Foundry: "Welcome to the third part in the biggest DF Retro episode we've ever produced - a year-by-year look at how 1080p gaming fared on the PlayStation 3. Launched in 2007 touting its then-exclusive HDMI digital interface, Sony layered full HD gaming on top of its Cell processor and RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' as key selling points for its third generation console. Of course, we all know how that turned out - both Sony and Microsoft machines routinely ran the most advanced titles at sub-720p resolutions, often with questionable performance, so what happened to the 1080p dream?

In the first two parts of John Linneman's investigation, we've covered off the first four years of the Triple's lifecycle and moving into 2010, the overall fortunes of the PlayStation 3 continued to improve. The platform holder released - what was then - the most advanced motion controller in the console space, backed up by experiments with stereoscopic 3D, which turned out to be a short-lived but still formidable pairing. Combined with a strong E3 showing, PS3 was looking good.

However, it's fair to say that it was a fallow year for 1080p gaming on the system, with only Scott Pilgrim Saves The World's razor-sharp pixel art upscaling, Castle Crashers and Soldner X2's 3D/FMV stylings accommodating full HD output - alongside a wonderful Monkey Island remaster."

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ApocalypseShadow640d ago (Edited 640d ago )

Just remember ladies and gentlemen, Sony never said all games would be 1080p. Only that the system would support games up to 1080p in a survey before the system was released.
https://spong.com/article/9...
And as we saw, some games did support it, some games tried their best to support it and some games didn't or never reached it.

Is a higher resolution great to have if you can do it? Sure. Is it necessary for a fun game? No

But what I find interesting is Eurogamer. Are they really talking about HD and PS3 in their article or are they really pushing their 4.50 Euros 4K video download subscription? Seems one is being used to sell the other. Just look at the bottom of the article.

Michiel1989640d ago

thats what every company tries to do, push for people to buy their products. Are you really gonna blame them for that?

ApocalypseShadow640d ago

Not all articles are about selling. They're about informing or entertaining.

Maybe I'm supposed to watch the video instead of reading. But I shouldn't have to click. But the article lazily tells us some games did hit 1080p and some didn't. I didn't learn anything new as I own the console. Then, they push a Patreon subscription.

Are you saying every opinion, preview, review and rant article requires a push to buy something now? Tell me which sites are prone to do so so that I can avoid them in the future.

Michiel1989640d ago

not everyone played during the ps3 era. I started during snes era but loved seeing articles/videos about how gaming evolved before that.

i dont think this article is trying to push you to get that patreon sub, it doesnt for me at least. I dont think theres anything wrong putting an ad at the bottom of the article. all the regular DF videos are free already.

SonyStyled640d ago

Wipeout HD on PS3, a remake of the PS1 game was 1080p 60fps. And that released in 2007-08

Christopher640d ago

This really feels like a filler article. I don't feel like I learned anything notable or substantial from this. I feel they could have reduced the unnecessary intro and over-explanation of things and put the whole series in one article for a more substantial and possibly informative piece rather than piece-mealing it out as they have.

dumahim640d ago

It's more about the video. DF Retro videos are for Patreon members first, and I think the whole thing was one big video. For the youtube channel, it gets chopped up and released weekly.

ApocalypseShadow640d ago

Chris is actually right on this one. Something known already was just kind of washed over in the article. Unless you're supposed to get more in the video. If more is in the video, then more could have been said in the article.

Only thing I learned new was that they are selling a subscription. My point though is that you gain more viewers by having better articles and content.

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721707d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1707d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1707d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1707d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921707d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1707d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1706d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1706d ago (Edited 1706d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21707d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1706d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821707d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1707d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1707d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1707d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1707d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1707d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1707d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1707d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21707d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1706d ago (Edited 1706d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1706d ago (Edited 1706d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1706d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1706d ago (Edited 1706d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1706d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1707d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1707d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1707d ago (Edited 1707d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1707d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1707d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1707d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1707d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811707d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1707d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1707d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1707d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1707d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red1744d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr1744d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay1744d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red1744d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM1744d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr1744d ago (Edited 1744d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san1743d ago (Edited 1743d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants1744d ago (Edited 1744d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay1744d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red1744d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7121744d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz1744d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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