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Metal Gear Solid 4 beaten in 5 hours on hardest level

To note, this time is achieved when you skip all of the cutscenes.

riqued5809d ago

But that is only on your second or third playthrough.

In the previous games I took 15+ hours to complete, not counting cutscenes obviously.

gambare5809d ago

I still got some stuff to unlock, so I guess I need another 5 hour run : /

MikeGdaGod5809d ago

i just can't see me doing it. it took me 3 hours just to get through ACT 1 on the second to hardest level and i'm on my second playthrough.

jwatt5809d ago

If I was to run through the game like that I know I would get caught.

flambeau5809d ago

I beat the game it took 15 hours and 25 minutes. What exactly is there to unlock in the game? Please do tell.

plenty a tool5809d ago

how many cutscenes are there? and is there really a 90min one?

Storm235809d ago

This is not a big deal at all. There are people who have beaten it in like three.

First time it took me 21 hours and was inceredible. Very good time for a game.

flambeau5809d ago

No, there is not a 90 minute cut scene. I believe the last is around 45 minutes but I am not sure.

MikeGdaGod5809d ago

no there is not a 90 min cut-scene. the last one is the longest but it's still no where near 90 mins.

JasonPC360PS3Wii5809d ago

There is a 45min cutsceen in this game? Thats like an episode of Lost, that is a real long freaking time for an ingame cutsceene.

thor5809d ago

Yeah the whole section from when you last put down the controller to the end of the coda is about an hour I think, maybe it's 45 I don't know. But can anyone remember how long, say, Final Fantasy endings are? I seem to remember 9 was really long, more than an hour I think. It's because they need to tie up every loose end of every character. Which is exactly what MGS4 does.

Mr Fancy Pants5809d ago

the thing is that you need to complete the game in less then 5 hours and without killing anyone to get the "Big Boss emblem"...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/con...
"Big Boss Emblem -Beat the game on the highest difficulty with no deaths, no alerts, no kills, no recovery items, no stealth suit, no bandanna items, in under 5 hours."

i can beat Zelda nes on what? 20 minutes? try to beat that games on that time! on a normal run that game could take like 5 or more hours... get my point? ;-)

LJWooly5809d ago

Yes, Final Fantasty endings are notoriously long, but for some reason don't suffer the same scrutiny as Metal Gear Solid. Of course, 45 minutes is more than acceptable if it's at the end of the game. Better than a short, crap ending like most other games.

Lionsguard5809d ago

The longest ones are at the end and I appreciate the long ending because it ties up loose ends and doesn't leave you wondering. It's more gratifying to know that all your work paid off for all the characters unlike some games who's endings are a few minutes long and you're treated to a nice long credits list, ooo how rewarding...

Kleptic5808d ago

the total ending cutscene time is around 1 hour, but its not all at once...i'll leave it at that to avoid spoilers...

the second longest single cutscene 'grouping' (i guess that is what you call it) would probably be the incredible conclusion to Act III...which I thought was around a half hour...

watching some of the most cinematic and incredible looking real time graphics in history doesn't bother me...I guess I am wierd...I still haven't collected my jaw off the floor from the opening act when snake gets off the truck, and then the icons just pop up seamlessly...and you are actually playing...'unbelievalbe looking' is an understatement...

I am almost at the end of Act II on hard with less than 5 spots, no rations/noodles/regain/etc., and zero deaths so far...I don't have the strategy guide, but I heard if you can complete the game in any time frame with those stats on that difficulty, you get enough DP to buy the bandana or 'active' camo...how someone can really get through the game on the hardest setting in 5 hours though is feckin' ridiculous, assuming they can't die or be spotted once...

I also thought that that big boss emblem had to be achieved without saving also...I might be wrong though...

Keowrath5808d ago

Kleptic, on your 2nd playthrough, Stealth and the Bandanna are available at Drebins for 500,000. If you go to Drebins shop on a wednesday or Sunday it'll be 20% off and if you go there in act 5 it'll be 50% off. (The 2 discounts don't stack from what I've experienced)

I'm at the beginning of act 5 on The Boss Extreme, no kills, alerts, continues, health items and just over 3 hours. I've only done it because I wanted to earn all the unlockables in the game myself, I could have easily downloaded a save (and yes some people have beaten the whole game in about 2 1/2 hours) It ISN'T fun though, you can't explore shadow moses for all the flashbacks, you need to take extremely direct routes avoiding a lot of the cool things that were added. You don't engage the enemy at all unless you're putting them to sleep or wanting to get the rebels to help you or for extra ammo.

The speed run is entirely possible but I'll be glad to get it over with so I can go through the game at a much more enjoyable pace. Resident Evil games were the same, you could beat them in a very short amount of time but you're spending so much of the game hurrying that you're missing most of the FUN.

joemayo765808d ago

so hold up watching the cutscenes actualy count towards ur gameplay time damn ive almost done act 1 on extreme at around 45 min so if i didnt watch that movie with drebin i coulda shaved off like another 10 mins? :/

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Menchi5809d ago

This is certainly not the normal time for completion, even with all cutscenes skipped.
Most players would probably struggle to complete with 10 hours on this difficulty, let alone 5.

Delriach5809d ago

Of course not. The person is playing specifically to get a special item. He is also using a gun that people wouldn't normally have.

PoSTedUP5809d ago

probably running around with the 25mm airburst with stun rounds ; )

Kleptic5808d ago

true...but the PS forums where guys were talking about this emblem were saying that you couln't stun an enemy either...

is it just killing them?...the way the drebin shop works, it actually wouldn't be that hard if you could use flash grenades everywhere and just run right past everyone...chaff grenades for the gekko's/mechanical stuff...and stun/WP grenades for the humans...would be easy, at least in theory...

also, what do you do with the bosses?...do you have to wait the 3 minutes or whatever for the white room and let them die on their own?...or does killing them not count?...

holy shat though, there are so many awesome weapons in this game...it would suck to not use any of them...

Keowrath5808d ago

The gun you're talking about is the Solar Gun and it makes The Boss Extreme a lot easier (especially the bike chase) If you shoot a downed enemy with it, they will drop a load of ammo.

Tranqs and stuns can all be used, any form of non lethal attack is ok. V ring shot for the shot gun, tranq darts for the Mosin Nagant and MK 22, and also the MK II with it's stealth and electric stun. BUT ammo is scarce, in The Boss Extreme you can only hold 50 MK 22 Trnq rounds and there are no "safety" ammo available to buy from Drebins AT ALL.

The Solar gun fires beams of light and can be recharged wherever the sun shines so it helps A LOT!

BTW, Chaffs don't seem to do a damn thing to Gecko's in TBE difficulty and chaffs are NEVER sold at Drebins (They do help with the Scarabs though)

Black_Jack5808d ago

i just got my big boss emblem for a completion time of 04:58:57 on big boss extreme, its my 3rd playthrough. very very close call if you ask me, i'd have been so piSsed if i'd missed it. i didn't use he solar gun because i havn't unlocked all the statues yet, so i hoarded as many tranq darts as possible which no doubt bumped up my time. my advice is do not pause the game, save whenever you checkpoint and the biggest one is MAKE USE OF THE MK II ITS YOUR BIGGEST ASSET!!! without the mk II i would never have gotten past the first act.

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vickers5005809d ago

It's a response to all the "mgs4 is a 30 hour game" claims.

jackdoe5809d ago

It CAN be a 30 hour game. Hell, there is an emblem for playing more than 30 hours, which I am trying to get right now.

MikeGdaGod5809d ago (Edited 5809d ago )

no, he is showing HOW to beat it in 5 hours for those that don't think it possible like me.

the game is extremely long even if you skip the cut-scenes. and if you notice, the guy has spent PLENTY of time playing the game since he knows where every enemy will show up way before they appear and has every weapon.

..........try again

i'd also like to add that even though getting the emblem is cool, it looks like trying to get it takes all the fun outta the game.

i do wanna see how he got through ACT 3 without being seen. i need the pointers.

vickers5005809d ago (Edited 5809d ago )

"no, he is showing HOW to beat it in 5 hours for those that don't think it possible like me."

No, I didn't mean HIS intent on making the video, I am saying that this is probably why the article got approved.

RecSpec5809d ago

What it's not hard...if you are persistent.

Not shown, the countless amounts of loading saved games after screwing up.

MikeGdaGod5809d ago (Edited 5809d ago )

ah ok, it just sounded like a dig.

i could see how people think that if it's possible to beat the game in 5 hours, there's no way it can be a 30 hour game. there's nothing further from the truth.

again if people watch this guy play, it's obvious that he's put way more than 30 hours into the game. it's probably his 6 or 7 playthrough. i'm on my second playthrough and even though i'm skipping most cut-scenes, it's still taken me about 5 hours and i'm only in ACT 2.

but then again..........i like to fight. i'm going for 50 knife kills.

Keowrath5808d ago

Scottie, I agree with you, it does take a lot of the fun out of the game and I'll be incredibly pleased to have it done with (I'm at the beginning of act 5 all conditions met at just over 3 hours on my 3rd playthrough) It has been a bit of a chore though to say the least, pretty much constant loading when you screw up, pressing start asap on each cut scene to skip it, not being able to pause and hitting START asap after each load screen.

Thankfully after this, I have all the emblems that involve time limits, no kills and no alerts. With the items I'll have obtained, the next playthrough will be great fun!

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Pizza The Hut5809d ago

I can hear the complaints about "All Sony Games are too Short"..."Great Graphics dont make up for short gameplay"...YADA YADA YADA.....so let hear the best you got FanBoys because its inevitable

Guitarded5808d ago

Go back and look at some early Gears threads Mr. ps3 fanboy. MGS4 is short and overrated, just for you.

sonarus5809d ago

lol so what i am currently working on doing the same. If you beat the game on hardest in 5hrs or less with no kills and no alerts and no continues you get big boss rank along with patriot gun and big boss face camo

Kami5809d ago

i finish it in the socend normal like that in 3:48 hours. then i tried to do the same in the boss extreme but i couldn't because you cant buy non lethal ammo. and if you try to do some cqc they ALWAYS caught me.

SSCOOLCHEA5808d ago

good job buddy but i love the cut scenes and the way thes tory is told . I and everybody else that bought metal gear knew that cut scenes came along with it . mgs 4 was made by kojima for his fans. stop spending your life trying to degrade shiii because your life might be degrading .

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX78d ago (Edited 78d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro78d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7278d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_78d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga78d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos78d ago (Edited 78d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2378d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200078d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin78d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole78d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix78d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198978d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor78d ago (Edited 78d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198978d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons388d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde388d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden388d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop388d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu388d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop388d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17388d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop388d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136387d ago (Edited 387d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984388d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster387d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989388d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon388d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

RNTody388d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon388d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

RNTody388d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon388d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden388d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt388d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989388d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90388d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden388d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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