EGM's Killzone 2 Feature Reveals Cell Usage & More

Last week, EGM/1UP.com revealed that the August issue of EGM has feature story on Killzone 2. Subscribers should have their copies as early as today and the magazine hits news stands later this week.

The magazine features 12 pages of Killzone 2 goodness, some of which mentions that four-and-a-half of the six cores of the PS3's Cell chip are being used by Killzone 2 at the moment.

[eddierivera]

But I think its awesome that the playstation family are sharing technology the way they are with each other.. R2, Killzone 2 and God of War 3 ftw! I wish Treyarch and Infinity Ward were part of that family. Imagine all of the great things that could come out of that.

[BigBaehr]

Anything about Killzone 2 is HUGE news :D
KILLZONE 2 FTW!!!!!!!

[meepmoopmeep]

i really respect how all of Sony's 1st party studios help each other out like this. that's awesome for everybody.

[Yoma]

Wow. Can you just imagine the game which will be using all of the cores???

[Lifendz]

for KZ2 is rearing its head again. The game actually survived the shame of a CGI trailer and having a somewhat lackluster first installment. The game isn't even going to be judged on it's own merit. It's going to be measured against the Halo's, COD's, and Gears of the War. I guess why not. KZ has talked such a good one and has provided such amazing imagery that the comparision is only natural. The PS3 is almost tied to Killzone. The console is now at a point where I think it'd be just fine if KZ2 was a flop (although the fanboyism on this site would cause a shutdown if the game flops), but I'm sure Sony is going to ensure a solid sales showing by advertizing this game big time. They have too. This isn't MGS4 selling a mill plus on day one with no advertising.

They have my 60.00 bucks but if it's a flop game (gameplay is broken, major visual issues, etc) I doubt I'd ever give Guerilla a chance again.

[Clinton514]

Funny you should mention merit. That's pretty much what the closing paragraph of the preview mentions. Though, reading a few other previews, how honestly should we expect this game to be reviewed?

I'm not a crazy conspiracy theorist but the amount of previews still hanging onto the Halo Killer stigma, and the lack of mentioning the achievements made with Killzone: Liberation paints a troubling picture regardless of how good the game COULD be.

[Lifendz]

and that whole "Halo Killah!!!" was made by one crazy site and we all ran with it. I was one of those that did. I sat down and play KZ at my friends house to witness the "Halo Killah" and laughed like crazy. Then when my friend suggested I put that out of my mind and just see what they tried to do on a console that was not made to do FPS I had to give the game some credit. An E for effort if you will.

Now KZ2 is coming and the Halo Killer talk is now COD4 killer and PS3 justifyer.

I won't lie, I bought my PS3 over 360 based in part on RROD but mainly because I saw that infamous KZ2 trailer and looked at the 360 launch games (not fair I know but whatever) and the decision was easy.

I'm happy with my PS3 and I'm sure you other PS3 owners are too. I just hope that Guerilla doesn't fall flat on it's face and that it:

A) makes a game that's good and won't get killed for what one crazy mag said years ago and;

B) sells well enough for the company to use the engine again and again. Heck, let's license that sucker out for others to use.

[spectyre]

KZ2 will not be compared to other shooters. If you've read the previews you can tell that a higher standard is expected from everyone. If this game has broken gameplay or outstanding visual flaws Guerilla Games reputation will be forever tarnished and Sony will have a huge black eye as well. The most insignificant flaws will weigh heavily against it. It may not be "fair" but that's the way it is... Guerilla knows it, and Sony knows it.

They'll have my $60 also, and part of my anticipation is based on how Sony will respond to the pressure being applied by the gaming community.

[hazeblaze]

This isn't really big news, but it is cool to know the results they have achieved without utilizing all 7 spu's.

On a sidenote, does anyone have a link to scans of this article?

[lsujester]

I agree. It's so cool that they are all sharing information instead of trying to 1up each other and fight to keep a job like other studios under other publishers have to (I'm looking at you, Activision and EA).

If any of you remember, Insomniac gave a big presentation on how to utilize the Cell better. Outlines and powerpoints on process allocations and timing. That was so cool, just opening up others to stuff they had worked out.

[meepmoopmeep]

you won't find more brutal nitpicking of a review than you will with Killzone 2. Sony and GG have a 1000 pound guerrilla (pardon pun) on their shoulders with this one and any insignificant flaw will be broadcast world wide. It's not fair but that's the position Killzone 2 is in and forever will be.

but this time they have a bigger team, help from other 1st party studios and a huge budget from Sony, so i hope they can pull this one off.

[Bonsai1214]

how do you use half a core? haha. i look forward to reading this in the mag.

[Clinton514]

For each member of the Legion. Tank battles(images of ISA and Helghast tanks). And a few mentions of returning characters.

[Sevir04]

my goodness. i wonder how many cores R2 is using right now. 4 1/2 of of the 6 available cores that incredible. by february this game will look unbelievable. ^^ and this will be a mature first gen game for Guerrilla because it's the first game from their first gen engine. incredible that first gen games look so outstanding. Man i cant wait to see what ratchet Future 2 will look like. man i'm simply jumping in my boots right now

get em' Sony, go for it.

[Sev]

There you are. I havent seen you around "other" Sev.

[Sevir04]

just been busy. So what's your thoughts on this maintenance happing tomorrow. Surely your inside has some tips he can share, what do you think this is all about. i mean my hopes aren't up. because if it comes it comes (2.4) i just normally update when i'm ready. I just think it's strange that they are taking down the PSN and the store at the same time. the last time something like this happened. they droped us with 2.3 for the new store revamp. ^^ it'll be interesting but please share your veiws

[TheBarExam_2]

I want to try Killzone 1 but I have a 40 gig...

[ice_prophecy]

Killzone one was one ps2?

[lsujester]

Sorry....

Here you go:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref...

[ice_prophecy]

my comment makes no sense! disregard it ^^

[avacadosnorkel]

and be thankful you don't have a 20 Gig PS3

[Killzownz84]

This game will RULE!! Back when Killzone 1 was made guerilla was basically a "basement" studio with very little money and very little time and limited by PS2 hardware for the Vision that had for Killzone.. Now its a totally different story. Sony owns guerilla now so they have all the money and time in the world to perfect this game! After watching all the gameplay videos I am sold that this game will raise the standard on gaming across all platforms.

Im so sick and tired of people saying this game lacks "Innovation" I buy a FPS for awesome graphics, Great multiplayer and great shooting action, not for "innovation" if I want innovation ill buy Little Big Planet (which will also be amazing by the way) but Killzone 2 just looks so awesome.. I cant wait!!

[RAM MAGNUMS]

what?!? What?!? What?!? What!?
what ya want now xbutt!?!
wsup?
what?!?
tell us how much you don't care, you fake gamers!
playing with xbox is like playing with toys!
but you are just playing yourself!
ha ha!
die xbox die!
Rrod!

[Beg For Mercy]

the ps3 is so f*ckin powerful geezs, why cant the xbox fans just admit its more powerful

[Snukadaman]

But honestly...when its best games have frame rate problems then whats the use of claiming its powerful...its just another console not the over hyped,underdeveloped mess it is today.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Seriously? over-hyped? frame rate drops? underdelivering??

just so im clear..you're talking about the 360 right?

[Capt CHAOS]

Na mate, sorry but he's talking about the PS3.

[Kleptic]

since when does MGS4 have framerate problems?...

You guys can say 'its not that powerful' all you want...MGS4 proves without any questionable doubt that it is currently the most powerful console...if/when the 360 gets even half of MGS4's ridiculous visuals...then maybe the ps3 was way overrated rated in terms of power...until then, avoid the internet...

seriously...it has been said since the beginning...shatty multiplat games are not going to show anything in terms of which console is more powerful...exclusives in which the developers are pretty much allowed to go crazy with money and time...make the console shine...when something is rushed, or spread out into other platforms...it doesn't...

so yeah...it takes a pot of cash and around 3 years to make a PS3 game that redefines console gaming...everything else leaves it more comparable to the 360...Killzone 2 easily fits into that pot of cash and 3 years category though...

funny how the 360 works though...doesn't matter who makes the game...they all look the same...has it recieved an exclusive that looks better than Gears yet?...nope...why is anyone even having this argument?...

[LevDog]

Those arnt bad devs they are Borrowing from either.. To think that KZ2 is only using 4 and half of the 6 cell "things" is crazy.. It rivals crisis in graphics.. PS3 will still have tons of power left.. Jeeezz I wonder what games will look like after KZ2

[XxRoosterxX]

how do you use half a core?

[GameDev]

use 1.55 billion of its 3.2 billion cycles per second.

[Polluted]

That's exactly what I was thinking. Just because it's not operating at its absolute maximum doesn't mean it's only half in use. There's no way a game dev said that.

[DarkSniper]

Killzone 2 is one of the primary reasons why PLAYSTATION®3 is the benchmark console for technological greatness. Those who strive for complacency and mediocrity develop for Xbox 360. Games such as Killzone 2 is truly next generation.

$niper

[Capt CHAOS]

.

[Aclay]

Jesus Christ, that's huge.... that's more than what the entire Xbox 360 has to offer... damn. Sony definantly knew what they were doing when they future proofed the Playstation 3 with Blu-ray and the Cell.

Killzone 2 will be one of the sickest FPS ever if it's going to be using this much power of the PS3 and I guess it's safe to say that Killzone 2 will be pushing out about 50%-65% of the PS3's total potential... sounds awesome!

I can't wait to see how much power God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, Wardevil, and Team ICO's next PS3 project will be using up, Eventually PS3 games will start separating themeselves from Xbox 360 games in terms of technology and graphics for good.... I thought that Metal Gear Solid 4 and GT5 Prologue were good looking games... I almost can't imagine anything that looks better...

[juuken]

I don't know about you but I'm very excited about this.

[Old Snake]

I don't see why people are still hyped for this. We know the graphics won't be the CGI promised and other games have already accomplished great graphics, i.e. MGS4, CoD4, etc.. And the gameplay looks the same as the first one, which in case people have forgotten wasn't that good.

[LevDog]

Your crazy to think this game looks like the first one.. Have you not seen the "In-Game" footage?? Obviously you havent.... Cause it blows any other FPS graphics outta the water.. KZ1 was done by like 30 peep with limited time and money.. KZ2 has a huge team, with all the time and money they need.. Its gonna be a completely different outcome this time around.. Plus its gonna be the First FPS to implement a cover system..

Go watch the video and slap yourself

[King_many_layers]

I thought COD 4 was actually majorly over rated. The Textures were so very bland. and the lack of animation in anything in the environment made it seem way too still.

watch some of the videos in high definition of Killzone 2. Just wow, the textures when they pop in cover are great for a first person game.
then there's the smoke being blown after explosions and such. not to mention the animations. I can see why the Cell is being used so much.

[aaquib5]

I get some Planet Network advertisement that never goes away...

[PimpHandHappy]

even if his name alone is wrong

i have seen him snipe and he is WEAK

yea thats right Sniper

but anyway

KZ2 will be the next game to really REALLY show the power of the PS3. RFOM2 might be awesome but i doubt it will match KZ2 in terms of just pure look....

we all know what someone can do with this much time on the PS3!

I wonder if Huxley will be great? I mean they have been working on it for a few years now.....for some reason I DOUBT IT

360 sucks
PS3 rules

peace

[Kleptic]

seeing how Huxley is using UE3...it stands little chance of being anything overwhelming visually anymore...

oh...and when they showed it...it looked like absolute pile...that doesn't help it either...

[DarkSniper]

Dark Sniper doesnt know wheather or not he should hit the agree or disagree button.

$niper

[cmrbe]

is no question that KZ2 will look better thats a given but in terms of Story and gameplay i think R2 will be better. Of the two devs i trust Insomanic more than GG. In any case its a win win situation for PS fans. I predict that R2 will redefine online gaming but KZ2 will set an new benchmark for console graphics which MGS4 currently holds and most likely won't let go until KZ2 unless FF13 is released this year.

Snipe. Lets press disagree for the fun of it :).

[DarkSniper]

Oops.

$niper

[whitesky]

lmfao!

[Closing]

I know it has a lot to live up to, but I see huge potential in the series, and I see a system capable of reaching that potential, and I see a lot of talented devs working hand in hand, Which means I feel pretty comfortable saying this game is gonna turn out just fine.

Have mine pre-ordered already, and only a train wreck could make me reconsider. This is coming from a person who is not even a FPS fan. It looks that good.

[Marty8370]

Devs have software that can show details of Cells SPE usage.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

I think someone should tell then they forgot to use one of those cores for color.

[pwnsause]

Uh, no.

[SiLeNt KNighT]

jason likes pretending hes a power ranger... killzone doesnt offer this =/

you know youre pretty lame when you need multiple profiles because nobody likes you...

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

multiple profiles? got any evidence to back that up?

[beans]

That was freaking hilarious and so true lol! After all this praising over a game that might be boo boo like the rest of there titles (on console not psp) it's just hilarious to watch the Sony fans get excited just to get disappointed. These guys think that the PS3 is going to magically overtake 360 in graphics and that the 360 has no room for improvement. It's crazy but all day everyday Sony fans unite and talk up a Sh!t storm just to justify there purchase two freaking years later. KZ2 will never meet the hype from anyone other then Sony fans just like all of the other big PS3 games.

[juuken]

Cute but...no.
It's a shooter, not Yoshi's Island.

[RiseOfMonster]

I guess that's all you have left knowing that nothing on the x360 can touch KZ2 in terms of technical achievement.

[Clinton514]

Not tired of chasing down highly anticipated game. You two pretentious kids. Posting professionally touched up war images in comparison to a videogame is as absurd as your constant whiny attitude over PS3 exclusive titles.

[snoopgg]

will have a broad spectrum of colors. Halo 3 had every color and a bag of skittles in it and still managaged to suck. The new silent hill won't have much color, and it will still be a great game. Come on man they use lack of color for art direction for the game, not lack of power.

[TheExecutive]

The PS3 has already overtaken the 360 in terms of technical acheivement with 2 games: MGS4 and Uncharted.

The funny thing is is that its a year younger too. Why is it there hasnt been a better looking game out for the 360 since GeoW? Its moving into its third year and the best looking game came out 2 years ago? There is something wrong with that picture.

[Bolts]

Halo 3 review: OMFG its another Halo!! Finish the fight! My life is complete. 10/10

KZ 2 review: There's too much shooting in this game. Too generic, too gray, too repetitive. No one care about the childrens. 7/10

[meepmoopmeep]

lol... hahhaha

[cLiCK_sLiCK9]

haha..tHAT mADE mE GiGGLE! GTA4 is better than Halo 3...
HALO FTW!!!

[Mcrmarcher]

Jason its a warzone, theres not going to be bright colours. Use your common sense and stop hating on this game just because its on the ps3 jeese....

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Here... a real warzone, notice lots of "color" enjoy :)

[DJ]

Guerilla Games already showed us Last Year how Killzone 2 looks like without the real-time color grading, desaturation, and filter effects of the 3rd level. It actually looked fine to me, but not as realistic.

[cmrbe]

on planet Helgan that is bleak and dark. Man. What is it with x360 fans and bright pink colours like in Halo 3?. Jason, last time i check your most visually stunning game is even more colourless. Sad it won't get any better than that.

[juuken]

Wow, Jason tries to be witty but falls flat on his face. Jason hun, this game is set in the future if I'm not mistaken. The game isn't going to look like Yoshi's Island or something. They're in the middle of a warzone with burnt out buildings and what not.

Stop being jealous. It's not helping your case.

Oh dear, and you show muddled screenshots of the game known as Gears of War 2? Hey, this is about Killzone 2, not Gears of War 2.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

cmrbe, you mean this game here?

[Peekay]

I cant believe you just brought Greys of war to the table.

[Closing]

I doubt any of you would be arguing if neither was exclusive if you like gritty shooters that is. Unless of course those fruity disney power games are your thing then there's no hope for you.

[cmrbe]

those were bullshots you just posted bud. Everyone knows it. These are the real ones.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/...

I can't seem to upload any pics so here's the link to IGN.

The only level we saw in Killzone 2 is the one on Helgan. You should really reserve judjment after seeing other levels. If you want colour. You can try Uncharted. That game has better graphics than Gears and more colour that power ranger halo.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

It was cmrbe that brought Gears into this, not I. I just provided the proof, and the hand to face.

[Peekay]

o.k my bad. Point is Gears isn't the most colorful game in the world, but it is stunning.

[cmrbe]

to your face.

Here are the real in game images. You can fool your fellow trolls but not adults.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/...

Try harder.

Edit: @closing: yes youre right. I have the up most respect for EPIC and their games especially Mark and Cliff. They are great devs. Don't mind me. I just love to stick it to trolls of a particular type on these threads.

[Closing]

I'm going to give a fairly subjective view from a perspective not taking consoles into consideration. I'd say Killzone 2 hands down looks more photo realistic because it does surfaces, and effects far better. As for Gear/Gears 2 is no slouch by any means, and does an insane amount of detail, but it's certainly not the graphically powerhouse it used to be by any means. But graphics are not all people as gameplay is first, and foremost the most important thing. I know Gears has some of the very most solid gameplay I've experience, and just the most fun you can have online. I don't know anything about the Killzone 2 gameplay at this time so I can't pass that judgement yet, but it does have a lot to prove in that sense.

Anyhow this is a warzone.

[SiLeNt KNighT]

thats a pic of a burning car and some guys standing around...thats war?...you fail. now go draw a colorful rainbow.

[Mcrmarcher]

Dude this is set on a far away planet, in a city warzone. you know with buildings and such, oh and when GEOW came out i bet your weren't saying the same thing, now stop trolling.

[DJ]

This screenshot proves that Guerilla forgot to add color to the game. ;]

http://img246.imageshack.us...

Also, I'm glad to see that they're trying to make the most out of each core as they move closer and closer to Beta status. They were using exactly 4 full SPUs back at E3 2007, so it's surprising how much better the game looks and performs using almost the same amount of system resources.

[LightofDarkness]

It's a pretty game, no one can deny it ;)

I love how developers seem to be able to get a lot of post processing effects out of the PS3 at a desirable frame rate. GG have even more R&D support at this stage than Kojima did during MGS4's development, I'd say.

[LightofDarkness]

I think it's pretty clear here that most of the commenters don't know what that statement actually means.
This statement actually means nothing to almost anyone who has never experienced working with either a cell processor or a stream processor for that matter, and then even more so with the end of developing a video game. I know the cell is a great number cruncher, but we must remember that fundamentally stream processing is not very good at game logic in general, but is very good in other areas, which can be noted by the outstanding contribution the PS3 community has made to Folding At Home. Altogether the Cell is just about on par with the 360's processor in it's suitability for games development, but it surpasses the 360 in massive strides in many other applications. It's becoming ever more apparent the further we delve into this generation that the differences between these consoles are superficial in the end and will end up being pretty unnoticeable(in terms of the kind of graphics and gameplay experiences they are capable of producing). I may get attacked for this statement, but believe me: I work in the area of software development, heck the differences between ARM (or RISC) and CISC are massive enough, and that's just an instruction set (mostly). These things are different almost altogether architecturally (per core).
It's an extremely complex subject that is never intended to be understood by gamers as a whole, the whole "a machine is measured by it's cores" argument that is becoming rampant again is completely out of context, as it assumes that each of the cores are of the same architecture and instruction set, and even then, that's at a very basic level of understanding. These machines are highly complex (ESPECIALLY the cell).

And besides, since when does core usage = great game? This could be due to:
sloppy coding, or exceptional coding
poor resource management
outstanding resource management
architectural constraints
necessary resource overhead
.... (etc etc etc)

There are any number of reasons as to why this may be the case, as we are not developing the game we don't know what the ideal level of processor utilization is based on the game's level of detail and algorithmic complexity.

Just rememeber: don't put all your eggs in one basket. This news has me no more or less hyped about this game, and holds no significance relating to the quality of the game. I'm looking forward to the game quite a bit. It's tech talk relevant only to those developing the game or others developing PS3 games. Nothing more.

[beans]

Good read and bubbles for you.

[meepmoopmeep]

bubbles for the great informative read

[1stKnighT]

There is still hope for this site after all.

[QuackPot]

That GG are looking at CoD4(the true Halo killer), Gears of War, RB6, R1 and even Halo itself and identify the successful aspects of each of those games.

Then copy, modify, adapt and improve(deltanism) then implement them in KZ2.

If GG would do this then there's no way in hell KZ2 would fail nor score less than 9/10. It's just the most obvious thing GG should be doing.

Anyhows, it's one thing sharing technical know-how - how about also sharing/copying successful gameplay techniques. Damn, to see a KZ2 version of an airbourne assault as in CoD4, would be to die for.

BTW: I really want to see vehicle gameplay. How are they going to be implementing usable vehicles in the game? Will there be usable vehicles for MP? Hope so.

[Clinton514]

Confirmed in the magazine. They still won't discuss multiplayer, I'm guessing not until E3.

[juuken]

I love how this game is getting ridiculed for not having enough color when it's set in the middle of a wasteland/warzone area. 360 owners are truly, truly sad. They have to resort to nitpicking to bring this game down.

[cmrbe]

they have nothing left to crow about so let them be. Better yet just have fun with them like i do. Killzone 2 will blow anything there is on consoles graphically out of the water, that we do know. Its just the question of gameplay and story that we need more info on. Let the x360 fans or trolls to be specific be. They cannot change what will come to pass.

[juuken]

Yes, you're right.

[Mcrmarcher]

I know its quite sad, if this was an exclusive for xbox then it would be a different story. I find it really funny the way the hardcore xbox fans call killzone drab and gray and then praise Geow and don't mention its lack of colour. Just enjoy games!!

[Bill Gates]

...

For those that didn't know, this is the FUTURE of game development in the SONY side. All their first and second party developers helping each other out to pump out the best looking games we're seeing now and will continue to see in the future of the PS3's life span.

It's too bad the roBOTS can't seem to understand that M$'s strategy of buying things will just not work for this generation of consoles. The 360 can't do anything better than the UE3 graphics, and that's a FACT. Now all they have left to do is be bitter about all the sh!t they talked in the past, swallow their pride, and admit who the real king is. LOL

[cmrbe]

it all along and yet you didn't implement it!!. Haha yeah your right billy. Worst still for MS the unreal 3 is not exclusive to them. Great for us PS fans as not all game will look like the same.

Sony foster game development much better than MS. Sony gives their studio and partners more time and freedom to choose what they want to do. Last gen for example Sony didn't force Sucker punch, ND and Insomanic to develop more mature games like they are now with Resistance, Uncharted and Sly. Sony are doing a mighty fine job in keeping their studios happy as well as partners.

[Bill Gates]

Your name is "beans", and your avatar is The Green Lantern. You're a walking joke, and it's sad you're oblivious to it. Seeing as how you chose the "Green" lantern, it's safe to say you're the one who just crawled out of M$ ass. You still have the "green" mucus all over your chest.

[cmrbe]

can i call you Mr beans?. Whats the matter?. The truth hurts?. Is the Unreal 3 engine exclusive to the x360?. Which game graphically is the best on the x360 that x360 fans have been touting since 2006 and which engine does it use?. Name a studio that left Sony because they were unhappy working for Sony?. What about MS?. What happened to bungie and criterion? What about Bioware?. Where are the great Rare games of old?.

Sony bought Evolution without any problems, media molecule loved sony's approach that they decided to developed LBP exclusively for the PS3. Insomniac and Sucker punch are still developing exclusively for Sony. Even when David left to create his own studio Eat sleep and play.He is still is developing exclusively for Sony. One can only deduced from this that Sony fosters game development and takecare of their people. You can't really say the same for MS. Even when Insomniac launched The Nocturnal Initiative Sony weren't against it in fact they supported it. Now we have these guys at GG confirming what most PS fans knows for quite a long time now that all these internal and 2nd parties studios are all working together to get us PS gamers the best games they possible can. Not derivatives of the same engine thank god.

As for your personal attacks. Everyone here in this thread knows that you and Jason are the trolls on this thread. Instead of crying and spiting out accusation like a 5 year old. Back up what you say.

[beans]

The gay boys are teaming up on me and I'm really worried! You sound like a bunch of nerds trying to be cool online go figure. Don't get mad at us because we think the PS3 sucks and is nothing more then a hyped up piece of crap. For some reason you idiots think the world evolves around your opinions when in reality a lot of people dislike your crowned jewel. Oh and Cmbre as far as what happened here and there is irrelevant to me because as long as MS keeps on delivering great games and experiences I'm happy umlike you whiners.

[juuken]

I love when my comment was deleted when I merely pointed out the flaws behind bean's comments. Seriously beans, don't lurk around the PS3 threads if you're going to spin something so negative and thoughtless. I don't know why the mod didn't delete the rest of *your* comments because you were the one who started this in the first place.'

Your comments were simply uncalled for. I love how 360 owners claim that PS3 owners lurk around the 360 sections, when they do the same exact thing. You're running around insulting people and yet the mod didn't do a single thing to delete that. You see, you're the reason why most 360 owners are hated on this site.

[LinuxGuru]

Beans, you really need to take yourself away from this news board.

Your views are extremely slanted and are fortunately just your opinions.

You make outlandish claims, and you really need to become acquainted with the Open Zone.

[chidj2]

sniper youre comments are so damn great

but i trust more on FF13 actually i think that its going to have better graphics than KILLZONE2

[chidj2]

FFXlll 4 of 6 SPEs

Killzone 2 4.5 of 6 SPEs

so

killzone2 its going to look better than FF13? some expert answer me!!!

[pwnsause]

its the best we are going to see out of the PS3 so far, that is until, FFXIII releases ROFL.

[yaboi]

like killzone 2 is gonna be a hit.
thats taking a lot of power of the ps3
for good usage!!!

[Testo]

"The gay boys are teaming up on me and I'm really worried! You sound like a bunch of nerds trying to be cool online go figure."

This sounds exactly like all of the @ssholes on Halo 3 sound like.

It all makes sense now.

Gay bashing left and right.

You are truly pathetic.

[pwnsause]

if you think about it, beans sounds like the annoying kids that spam the mics on Halo 3, yea, it makes sense alright.

[cmrbe]

I think he is just a lost x360 troll that couldn't handle the fact that the x360 will go the way of the xbox.

Its funny that he accuse PS fans as crybabies and trolls and yet he is the only crybaby and the troll on this thread. On second thought you could add Jason but then Jason is not a crybaby like him though.

Got to love these kids :).

[zonetrooper5]

Looking forward to Killzone 2 but there is only one feature which is innovate in this game and thats the first person cover, other than that I could easily say its another game which blurs the jaggies, has alot of brown and grey and then bloom until your eyes hurt.

The graphics are amazing but I really have no idea why this game would still be in the pre-alpha stage with 7 months to go before release and over 3 years of dev time. Second, how will the gameplay stand up to, great graphics can only take you so far until you find it just another shooter which is boring and average.

At this moment I can tell that this game is only being hyped because of the brillant graphics, as far as gameplay goes it does look like a standard affair.