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Metal Gear Solid 4: The first review is out! - MGS4 length is about 29 hours

GamesRadar: First things first. This is the epic resolution to an epic saga and it comes on a Blu-ray disc. Just what sort of percentage of the playing time do the cut-scenes take up?

Paul Fitzpatrick: Hard to say. I didn't time the cut-scenes, but I completed MGS4 in just over 29 hours, and at a guess I'd say it was two thirds playing to one third watching. But that is a guess…

GR: How long did you spend finishing MGS4 for the review? What was your play schedule like and how how complete a look at the game do you feel you got? Anything you would have liked to take some extra time over?

PF: 29 hours and six minutes was my exact play-through time, and I saw everything I felt I needed to see to really get the measure of the game. I'd love to go back and play through with all the cool weapons and items unlocked of course. There are some beauties. Oh, and the play through didn't take in Metal Gear Online, which is being reviewed separately.

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Fishy Fingers5819d ago

Scared to read o_O But knowing around 29 hours makes me smile :)

I predict... "ha 2 hours gameplay, 27 hours movie!" comments from certain people....

rhood0225819d ago

Yeah, I agree there will be those comments and the whole "two-thirds playing, one-third watching" comment will be completely ignored.

Even if this figure is just a guess, its still based on someone who's actually played and finished the game.

Fishy Fingers5819d ago

Well the 16 guys who played/completed the game all took around 3 days, spending a minimum of 10 hours a day.

So this seems to fit perfectly.

Rock Bottom5819d ago (Edited 5819d ago )

If MGO comes free with every MGS4 they should have included it in the review, just like the orange box.

Of the 29 hours there's at least 7 hours of cut scenes, but that's one of the reason I love MGS, can't wait.

Also: "GR: In ten years, how do you think MGS4 will be viewed in comparison to the rest of the series?

PF: As a brilliantly inventive, reassuringly mad grand finale to a consistently inventive and mad series." says all.

sonarus5819d ago

I never really doubted the first review was a 10. I can't wait to play the game. The weeks need to move faster:(

Silellak5819d ago (Edited 5819d ago )

Well, to me, 1/3rd of the gaming being cutscenes is a bit much. But then, that's just my personal preference, and I know that's pretty much par for the course for Metal Gear.

Don't get me wrong - I loved MGS1, was meh on MGS2, and never played MGS3, but MGS4 sounds like a winner. I'd just prefer if less time was spent watching and more time was spent playing - and that goes for the series in general, not just MGS4.

Still, that means about 20 hours is gameplay, which is double the length of an average game this generation - and that INCLUDES cutscenes on those games. So that's certainly something.

As long as the checkpoints are AFTER the cutscenes and not BEFORE (God of War, I'm GLARING at you), then I'll be happy.

spandexxking5819d ago (Edited 5819d ago )

well to be fair GTA 4 has quite alot of cutscenes but no one has a problem with it. just like mgs, gameplay is only half of it the story is what grips you and makes you want to carry on.
@1.5 jeez i remember those GOW cutscenes drove me insane

@ sonarus no prob, just thought people didnt realise how long the cutscenes are. plus, yeah, now you metion it they did look like crap as well! funny though.

sonarus5819d ago (Edited 5819d ago )

THANK YOU SPANDEXKING

Aaaah. It really pisses me off when people whine about MGS cut scenes when each GTA mission has a cut scene. Not to mention the cut scenes look like crap so they are in no way interesting to watch. I skip 90% of them and when i'm not skipping i'm only half watching. Some GTA missions can be finished in 5 mins so thats like a cut scene every 5 mins :S

LastDance5819d ago (Edited 5819d ago )

did ne1 see the cut scene where snake is running away from the small metal gears...looks insane..better then a movie... id watch 10 hours of that neday.

such quality.

If uncharted didnt have so many cutscenes i wouldnt like it ne where near as much..it broke it up well... so i enjjoy cutscenes alot.(if the animation and acting is brilliant)

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sonarus5819d ago

lol actually i believe he was talking about god of war and not gears. Regardless when i played the cut scenes weren't really a problem for me because i didn't notice it

Bubble Buddy5819d ago (Edited 5819d ago )

MGS4 and GTA4 are great examples of the few games that are
WORTH and SHOULD be priced at 60 dollars. Good job Kojima and Konami. Day 1 even if my exams are a few days away for me.

Other mediocre games like Iron Man, Jumper: Griffin's story; basically most movie-based games, Conflict: Denied Ops etc etc, should NOT be placed a $60 gift tag.

samfk5819d ago

but if hes noticed its a third of the game then thats a hefty watch dont get me wrong i luv metal gear but u shud have the option to skip cutscenes ! BITE ME

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Angelitos5819d ago

The time, will depend on your skill level and how much you engage in battles.

Vespertine5819d ago

That is true.

Gamers usually go at their own pace to complete a game.

Fallen_Angel5819d ago

if an opinion to skip all the cg is in the game I predict that people will be beating it in less then 5 hours. the title is also misleadin cause it not really a review at all the person is only making a guess at that it will get a 10 out of 10

mattkelly19915819d ago

What are you fricken retarded. Did you get kicked in the head by a mule. It fricken says "two-thirds playing, one-third watching" Your like a fricken gimp. Read you troll. MGS4 isn't even on your console bro, why are you here. Fricken lost oddysey was 99% movies, so stfu.

samfk5819d ago

but cut scenes wont unless ur really bad pmsl

beavis4play5818d ago

also, GR is TALKING TO THE GUY WHO FIRST REVIEWED THE GAME IN OPM!!!! this isn't a review-just questioning the guy who did the review. why don't you read first instead of making an as5 of yourself.

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PimpHandHappy5819d ago

this is maybe one of the most important games for me. MGS made me a Playstation fan along with GT and Socom

one more month

TheHater5819d ago

Sweet. Well we know we are getting our money worth. And this isn't even an RPG people.

spandexxking5819d ago

mgs4 is gonna be awesome but good RPGs like FF 7/8, oblivion ive spent 100's of hours on each so rpgs still take the crown when it comes to length

niall775819d ago

WOW.

most action games this gen cant even get 10 hours.

Silellak5819d ago

Seriously - this is a nice change of pace.

ip-student5819d ago

Of course, this was an expensive game to make but still - I hate when a game is only 8 hours long. At about 12 hours I feel ok and above 15 hours makes me happy (assuming the game is good).

Sounds you PS3 owners have something to crow about (no action game on the XBOX 360 is that long - at least none that I am aware of). Probably the advantage of having bluray. I am hoping this type of game forces MS to allow developers to load portions of the game on the HDD so we can also get longer games.

jke825819d ago

a 360 owner that made an unbiased awesome statement need more people on n4g like that

samfk5819d ago (Edited 5819d ago )

but do the maths 29 divided by a 3rd aint 30 hours mate well not gameplay anyhow!

beavis4play5818d ago

29 hrs divided by 3 is a little over 9 hrs and since 2/3 of time is gameplay that means almost 19 hrs is gameplay!!! which is still waaaaaaay more than any of your 360 games. so, why don't you go hide whereever trolls hide?

jtucker785818d ago

Number of hours of gameplay isn't THAT important, unless a game is ridiculously short.
I always ramp up the difficulty of every game I buy so each checkpoint is harder and takes longer. And when you do get to the ending of the game then you've earnt it. And you get a much better feeling of achievement.
If you play through on an easier level and clock a game in 6 hours (i.e. CoD4), what is the point in playing through again on a harder difficulty, you've already seen all the cutscenes and the ending. You know what happens. I heard in reviews that CoD4 was on the short side so I whacked up the difficulty and it took me a good while to get through. Because I hadn't played through on an easier level, I didn't know where I was going and the AI kicked my rump.
I certainly didn't beat CoD4 in 6 hours, it took me a lot longer.
Regarding MGS4, I'm sure you're going to want to experiment, take in the sights etc. Why would someone want to race through a game unless they're reviewing it. MGS4 would probably take the average player over 29 hours to beat.

I suppose if you pay $60 for a game, you want to feel like you've got your money's worth.
Either way I'm sure MGS4 won't disappoint.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro40d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7240d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_40d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga40d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2340d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200040d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin40d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole40d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix40d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198940d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198940d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons350d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde350d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden350d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop350d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu350d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop350d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17350d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop350d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136349d ago (Edited 349d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984350d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster349d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989350d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon350d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA350d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon350d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA350d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon350d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden350d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt350d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989350d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90350d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden350d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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