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Image Showing Notable Graphical Improvments In the Latest MGS4 Trailer

Kojima Productions surprised us with the Latest MGS4 trailer that showed notable Graphical Improvements.

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Greysturm5838d ago

Since the Mgs camp that journalist were taken too so its been in polishing face since then which obiously improves the quality of the graphics and it still has a month more of polishing to go through.

gtgcoolkid5838d ago

the game is complete and i think the leftover months they are putting in the final touches. can't wait for this game.

i hope they also make the sound and the use of dual shock 3 perfect too.

sonarus5838d ago

These pics still don't do this game justice

Sev5838d ago

I noticed that when I first seen the new MGS4 trailer.
Everything looked notably better. It really showed in the graveyard scenes.

meepmoopmeep5838d ago

they're most likely going to use the next few weeks to polish up minor detail (not that it even needs any by the looks of the trailers and shots) i like the before and after image this showed. wow, so much more detail was added. and i like Meryl's new hair. it's more modern.

DRUDOG5838d ago

I'm so happy they fixed Meryl's hair, it was bugging the sh!t outta me the way it was sticking out stiffly straight back.

That was a nice montage of "before and after" comparisons. I thought I noticed a difference, but I was too busy staring and waiting to see some new footage. Nothing really until the end.

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eagle215838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

I am most impressed with the tech innovation characters like the Bosses "The Beauty and the Beast Unit" (all four of them are women who suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder (wikipedia) and Snake's little side kick robot. Freakin' Badass!!!! :)

Fishy Fingers5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

Every screen or video we have official been shown is taken from what will now be an 8 month old build. It's going to be damn pretty come release day.

Some of those screens definitely show a marked improvement. Cant wait for MGO tomorrow :)

Better be tomorrow!

fenderputty5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

You hear me? lol

<<<still pissed at himself for not getting the pre-order due to excessive laziness. Talk about shooting ones self in the foot.

Fishy Fingers5838d ago

What region are you? Troll the forums, find one man!

fenderputty5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

Los Angeles of Souther California in the US. Is there still a chance that I can get one? How would I do it? I want to pre-order anyway.

Fishy Fingers5838d ago

I'm UK so I just got it off the PSN.

But go to your local store tomorrow and ask. I'm pretty sure you can still get in :)

clevernickname5838d ago

Pre-order? Why, when you can just walk in to any Wal-Mart, Target, Bestbuy, Circuit City or similar store on release day and buy a copy.

Pre-ordering is for people with more money than sense.

DRUDOG5838d ago

@fenderputty
Gamecrazy here in CO still had a bunch of beta copies. If you can track someplace down that still has copies there really isn't any reason why you couldn't still get in. Better hurry though, cause now you've got two patches to d/l...

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Statix5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GAME.

But, this seems more of a downgrade than an improvement, going by that picture. The character models and faces seem more artificial (fewer polygons), and the post-processing effects/HDR has been toned down, from what I can tell.

Also, it's VERY UNFAIR comparison, because the screencaps from the first trailers are very blurry, making the textures look worse than they really did.

There's also a LOT less polygonal and environmentaldetail in the background of the Raiden picture.

I AM STILL VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THE GAME, THOUGH.

xaphanze5838d ago

They do look better there's no doubt about that.

dsolomon8185838d ago

umm.. you know left was old pic and right was new pic don't you? As for effects, if you're referring to the glare that almost totally obscures the top pic, i'm glad that's gone.

Statix5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

No, they don't look better. They SEEM to look better at first, because the screencaps of the first trailers are very blurry and low quality. This is a really, really unfair comparison. Someone needs to take HIGH-DEF screencaps of the old trailers, to make a fair comparison.

Still, I'm a graphics whore who is really acute when it comes to picking out graphical fidelity, and to my eyes, this looks like a downgrade. Which does occur quite frequently in the videogame industry. Games get downgraded all the time, and it's usually typical that they get downgraded from the early trailers/tech demos, as the developers start working with finalized hardware and devkits that didn't meet their expectations for how powerful the system was going to be. Don't act like downgrades never occur, because they occur quite frequently in reality.

Did you guys know that there's talk about MGS4 possibly being 576p in the Beyond3D forums? That's an example of a downgrade for you.

lsujester5838d ago

Downgrade? How on earth do you get that from looking at those pictures? There's much more detail on every object. And the lighting, while definitely turned down, looks much more realistic than the hardcore light bloom that made the previews look like an acid dream.

LevDog5838d ago

You must be a 360 fan.. you would like those washed out pics on the left.. Those washed out pics look like GOW.. No textures.. No color.. No detail..

The ones on the right look more real.. Theres more color better detail and crap load more textures..

360 fans love that washed out look

xaphanze5838d ago

I've never seen a game's graphics going from good to bad and this won't be the first time.I'm sure they're upgraded, but you just can't notice because the screen are low res and small.

Statix5838d ago

You people are all simply looking at the fact that the newer screenshots are SHARPER. That's because the OLD screenshots are BLURRY and LOW QUALITY, which makes the old trailers look worse than they really did. This is at best a very flawed and biased comparison. Let's at least be OBJECTIVE now, and wait for a better quality screenshots comparison, and a better quality version of the new trailer.

What's wrong with having a little OBEJCTIVITY for once, instead of having a typical knee-jerk fanboy reaction?

okcomputer5838d ago

You'd have to be blind not to see that as an improvement.. seriously. Just look at the wrinkles on the old man's face, or meryl's hair going from blocky to more layered and textured. Those pics are obvious upgrades

jackdoe5838d ago

The screens aren't blurry. The blurred look is merely the result of oversaturation, used to extreme abundance for the E306 trailer and done away with.

Statix5838d ago

They only appear to have fewer wrinkles on their faces because of the HDR and bloom effects slightly obscuring the facial wrinkles. Otherwise, the first set of screens show much more realistic looking faces. Much more natural, like real people almost. The newer character models look more like videogames.

Just take a look at the Otacon picture. He looks way more like a real human being than in the newer version.

sonarus5838d ago

Just download the trailer and you will see for yourself the improvements. The youtube trailer looks like crap.

http://www.megaupload.com/?...

These pics don't do the game justice.

lsujester5838d ago

I could care less about the fact that these pics are blurred some.. I'm just looking at the new shots and seeing that there is more detail than in the ones I've been looking at over the last few months, and the fact that the lighting has been changed.

It's still an improvement, if you don't think so, go back and look at the different trailers and screenshots that have came out over the months. Instead of trying to prove everyone wrong and say there are no improvements because these are doctored shots, just go look for yourself. While it's not leaps and bounds better, it's still tightened up.

SUP3R5838d ago (Edited 5838d ago )

Actually looking at Raiden and Big Mama's images.
I prefer the old ones, they look a lot more full and realistic than the new ones.
You can see Raiden's face clearly in the old image while in the new one it doesn't look as clean and clear.

Big Mama's old look was a lot more round and plush, while in the new one her face looks longer and not as pleasant.
Also, if you look at her jacket you can see they've decreased the detail. The foam squares in the old version pops out and the stitching is highly visible while in the new one it's flat and less detailed.

Noticed another one.
Look at Naomi's nails in the last pic.
In the image on the right her nails are very detailed and crisp compared to the new one.

However, the cemetery screens all the new ones look better than the old ones, so I guess it's fair trade in one way or another.

-EDIT-

Just watched the HQ version. It looks better in motion and gives a edgier tone to the game compared to the old trailer, so thumbs up. ^_^

lib95838d ago

Statix is right in some ways, some aspects look better, some feel downgraded, Otacon's picture is the best example, the background looks beautiful, yet otacon looks really fake, i think the first pictures look like a total improvement, well, I guess we need HD versions to really compare.

DRUDOG5838d ago

Bloom sucks when overused and usually it's a crutch for dev's who have something to hide.

ciid5838d ago

what side do you think is the new one?

old: right side
new: left side

because all of the effects you appear to be describing from the "old" one are actually the effects and layers added to the new one. even look at the last picture where it is circled, clearly the left side illustrates the bump.

And really I like the new ones better than the old, sure not as clear but the mood is much more apparent.

DRUDOG5838d ago

@ciid

I might just be reading your post wrong, but are you kidding?!? The older shots are on the left side of the comparisons. If you truly think it's the opposite I suggest you go find the old video (last one released before yesterday's Japanese version) and watch closely. The shots running down the right side are what was taken from yesterday's vid and clearly have much more detail than before. Just go back and look at the shot comparing Otacon in the graveyard in front of the heli or the shot in the Middle East showing the heli flying off with smoke and buildings. Not even close...

snakeater35838d ago

there isnt much of a difference here , just a tinkering of saturation, bloom, colour focus and the like....honestly, i prefer the left pics, especially raidens eyes being so darn scary !

supahbad5837d ago

yeah because im sure they used these extra months to make worse graphics. common sense please

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro41d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7241d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_41d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga41d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2341d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200041d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin41d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole41d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix41d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198941d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198941d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons351d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde351d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden351d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop351d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu351d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop351d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17351d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop351d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136350d ago (Edited 350d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984351d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster350d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989351d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon351d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA351d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon351d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA351d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon351d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden351d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt351d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989351d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90351d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden351d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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