GTA IV-Ps3 to have 5 Minute mandatory Install+Sixaxis Controls

Skip, the writer of the 1Up Preview of GTA IV has recently posted on Negoaf adding a couple new lines of Information, First of all his Preview was of both builds of the game and originally didn't include the comment about the 360 controller and he has no clue why that was edited in. Secondly the problems he wrote about are pretty minimal and only very slightly noticeable. But The most important info he gave out is that the Ps3 version has Sixaxis controls for Cars, Bikes, and Choppers along with a 5 minute Mandatory Install. The R* Employs he was with also said they "think" the Ps3 version looks slightly better, but Skip says playing side by side he couldn't tell the difference and that the opinion of the R* employees he was with didn't match the opinion of all the dev-team @ R*.

[LightningPS3]

OMG! I hope the sixaxis use for cars is optional. Don't scare me like that.

[Silellak]

Per the "article" (a single post on the NeoGAF forum), it is optional.

That "first review" also said the PS3 version had split-screen co-op and the 360 version doesn't. I think we'd have heard that from someone else by now, if it were true - that's a pretty significant feature difference.

[CNIVEK]

Yeah, apparently R* didn't get the memo: the Suxaxis is already dead and buried. o_0

[Ariexv]

The "First review" was FAKE.

[Azures]

the dualshock3 still has motion control jackass, its the ultimate controller.

[iHEARTboobs]

Yeah Cnivek, the DS3 has motion control. And 5 minute install? That's NOT long enough for me to make a sandwich! What the hell..

[thePatriot]

I guess you wont be playing with boobs in mgs4

[Superiorrior]

Lol oh my god, this is almost as funny as half you retards thinking Uncharted using the unreal engine, SIXAXIS is in every dualshock 3, what a laugh riot.

[Sir Ken Kutaragi 1]

+ 'The R* Employs he was with also said they "think" the Ps3 version looks slightly better'
Sounds good to me!;-P

[BrianC6234]

"Yeah, apparently R* didn't get the memo: the Suxaxis is already dead and buried. o_0"

No it isn't. My DS3 controller also has Sixaxis. I think a better use than controlling vehicles though is controlling where bullets or other weapons go. Maybe have a rocket launcher and use the Sixaxis to control it. I don't care for motion controls in cars. Airplanes are okay. The Sixaxis is great if used properly. It just isn't perfect for everything.

[chaosatom333]

Props to ROCKSTAR.
!!

[chaosatom333]

tell me who doubted Rockstar before?

*comes over and smacks the person who said yes*

[CrazyMystical]

sweet

[godofthunder10]

i've said it before and i'll say it again,the 360 and ps3 are almost the same,you can't even tell the difference so all this childish fighting about what system have the best graphics is childish.i know that ps3 fanboys will argue to the death that the ps3 graphics are 10 times better then the 360 and it's not even true,hell i've read some remarks that ps3 fanboys wrote that was a lie and they knew it,for exsample i've read one post where a ps3 fanboy said that the regular xbox graphics wasn't better then the ps2 then they said that the graphics on the 360 isn't that much better and called the 360 an xbox 1.5 and if that was the truth then the ps3 is a ps 2.5 because the ps3 graphics are the same as the 360 graphics.i don't understand why is everyone worried about the graphics because the graphics is the last thing i look for in a game.1st i look for the story line,2nd i look for how the game plays and so on.i would pick a game with these qualities with graphics like the super nintendo before a pick a game with none of these qualities that has graphics that's 20 times better then the 360 and ps3 because without these qualities the game will sux.hell i've read a lot of articles that said that the 360 and ps3 are really equal in power because of the way that they re built.fanboys from both sides need to sit down and think for a while.the truth is that some games looks better on the 360 and some games looks better on the ps3 but it's so small that hardly no one can tell the difference.
i have a 360 and i don't think that a 5 min standard install before you play on the ps3 is that bad,hell sometimes i put my 360 on and fix me something to eat or do something else so it's no big deal and if it was why should some one with a 360 like me even care about it or even write about it because it doesn't concern us at all and it might not even bother people that has a ps3 like it wouldn't bother me if i had one.
i'm also tired of hearing about the motion controllers for the ps3 and the ones that coming for the 360 because the only one that took off is the wiis remote because the ps3 motion controller never took off yet,you could say that it's a failure and the same thing will happen to the 360 because the wii has a lot of kids playing on it and that is why it took off but the 360 and ps3 has more grownups on it and it never took off because it's just a fad for grownups,hell i never did like to move my hands up,down,and sideways just to play a games.the majority of people will pick to play the regular controller over the motion one and i'm one of them.ps3 fanboys and 360 fanboys that can't wait for the 360 version might as well face the facts.the motion controller is a failure for the ps3 and it will be one for the 360.i bet in about 3 years you want even hear about them on the ps3 and 360 anymore and it can't come soon enough.

[BrotherNick]

Anyone ever tried to play motorstorm with the sixaxis? Seems really impossible.

[Silellak]

Interesting that the PS3 version requires an install, but whatever. No big deal. Though I'm sure the fanboys will be saying "LOL I CAN PLAY GTA4 5 MINUTES BEFORE YOU LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!" I am more curious how much space the install takes. After all, some PS3 owners only have 20 gigs, though they can at least upgrade the drive if they need to.

I wonder if the install time on the PS3 will help with texture pop-in and pedestrian/car traffic vs. the 360 version, or if it's just there to optimize the "no load screen" streaming that GTA4 uses. It's possible that the PS3's Blu-ray drive can't handle streaming as well as a DVD drive, but honestly I don't know enough to claim either way.

The worst part about GTA4's impending release is knowing that all of the "PS3 VS 360 GTA4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111" videos are just around the corner. And knowing good ol' N4G, every single damn one will be submitted and approved.

[sonarus]

exactly. i wouldn't mind if it was 20mins install because there are plenty of things i can do while i wait. I am more interested in how much space it takes out of my hard drive.

[Ghoul]

http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/...

can't tell how fast the 360 or ps3 reads though those are just the facts

[Exhaust]

I'm as hardcore a GTA fan as you can be. I preordered the 360 collectors edition for the DLC but still want to see the differences the install and sixaxis bring.

Plus I have friends on both PSN and XBL and want to be able to play multiplayer with any of them.

I think ultimately a lot of duel console owner hardcore GTA fans will end up buying both versions. Especially if the differences are "fairly" significant. These differences sound significant enough for me to warrant owning both versions.

EDIT: I see some bitter one console owner did a phantom disagree. Hilarious. haha "You're either with us or against us"

[Bleucrunch]

HEy you have a good point their I might do the same.HMMM

[sonarus]

@exhaust yea i thought of doing the same thing. Could buy ps3 version first then wait to see if the DLC is worthwhile then buy 360 version. Then i decided i don't care enough to buy 2 versions.

[nirwanda]

If that info is right then the 360 would stream data at 133ish mb/sec and the PS3 would stream data at 72 mb/sec and don't forget the seek times will be longer for the blu-ray disk as it's larger and has more to scan over.

[crunchie101]

Yes, allthough at 1x speed Blu-ray's data transfer is more than 3 times that of DVD, the DVD player in the 360 is, I dunno 16x? 32x? as opposed to PS3s 2x Blu-ray speed

[nirwanda]

It's 12x thats why it's so bloody noisy

[Crazyglues]

yeah buying both has crossed my mind... I might just do that. It's an option I have thought about because I have a lot of people I play COD4 with on XBL and it would be cool to hook up with them online.

But first I will play my PS3 version and see if I really need to add the 360 version. (I think after I start playing on PS3 I probably won't need to do the 360 version) I think it will come down to how well I can meet up and play people online, and if the multi-player option is really that much fun that I need my COD4 crew... We shall see.

[Dark_Overlord]

but the thing with DVD drives are the speed is variable, meaning it will run at different speeds depending on where the data is on the disc, try a drive speed test on your if you don't believe me, whereas Bluray was designed to keep its constant speed throughout the disc.

So in certain situations the 360 drive will transfer data faster than the PS3 drive and vice versa in other situations (can't remember if DVD drives spin faster on the inner or outer of the disc)

[Ghoul]

easy guys

the dvd turns at 12x speed BUT that doesnt mean you get the 12x datarate tahts not true.

first of all the 360 uses 8x (12x is only used on single layer disks with you dont see taht often on nextgen) and secondly is bluray CLV while dvd is CAV

CAV: The drives transfer rate is
variable. Information on the inside tracks of the disc is read at
approximately half the speed as the information on the outside of the
disc.

CLV: The drives transfer speed is linear or
constant regardless of whether information is on the inside tracks of
the disc or the outside.

means blurays deliver a constant amount of data while dvd dont, on the first part (inner circle) the dvd is faster but on most part its slower then the 2x bluray of the ps3.

quote:

"PS3's Blu-Ray drive is not slower than thw 360 DVD at all. YOu have been fooled by Microsoft PR spin.

The 2x Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 is CAV, which delivers contstant data rate of 54Mbit/sec across the entire disk surface.

the 8x DVD drive in the 360 (12x read speed in the 360 is only used on single layer discs, which are rare), is CLV, and whilst 20% faster than the Blu-Ray at the outer edge of the disc, ends up 40% slower at the inner edge of the disk.

What this means, is 360 can deliver about 200MB of data from a DVD, 20% faster than the PS3, but for everything else it's either the same, or drastically slower ( over 4GB of data on a DVD9 is slower than PS3). The Blu-Ray delivered the exact same rate of 54Mb/sec across the entire surface, regardless.

All your link shows, is either how naieve or biased Ars Technica are."

this sums it up pretty good

[littletad]

Don't criticize every fanboy to that degree. Regardless if you wait five minutes or not for the mandatory install 360 owners will play it once popped in. It's not a fanboy comment it's a fact. Now every Sony fany claiming the motion capabilities of the controller to be some godlike feature, now that's hilarious considering the lukewarm perception from most gamers. Either way at least it's five minutes and not twenty. Now all we need to know is what it fixes or does.

[Dark_Overlord]

you said it a hell of a lot better than what i did :-)

have a bubble

[iheartSONY]

Sad cuz its true. N4G will be bloated with PS3vs360 videos of GTA4. Just read the comments some people are already asking for them now. "And knowing good ol' N4G, every single damn one will be submitted and approved" man that made me laugh.

[snakeater3]

i dont mind waiting for the install either but last time my mate came around the house and i wanted to show him the last boss in dmc4.....well lets just say we opted for a match of pes due to the 20 min install (yep i deleted it after finishing the game)

[Jamegohanssj5]

In the Dualshock 3 it still has six axis, so it's a win-win situation. If the game doesn't include rumble I'm pretty sure that a patch will be released.

The Genius has spoken.

[Fishy Fingers]

Already confirmed, will support DS3.

[Kleptic]

nice...I went into Gamestop today to buy GT5:P...figuring I didn't need a pre-order for a 'demo'...wrong...the whole town is sold out, most likely until next week...

so I bought a DS3 instead...much nicer...

[Spike47]

with silellak.

Those comparison vid will probably exagerate some minor issues with wither version.

[znu]

hmmm,

very true but i think ultimatly their gonna be the same not including the DLC, regardlessly i pretty much never download DLC unless its free or extremely good, if i had to choose between ps3 and 360 version

360 version DLC has to blow me away(the only games that has blown me away is the first time seeing GT5Prologue and FF13 provided FF13 and Versus that it's in game which im pretty sure it is)

One thing though, if you had to choose between 360 and ps3 version, a logical person would choose 360 incase(incase being the operative word) it has good downloadable content(not buying game twice or waiting till DLC is released). The only reason to choose the ps3 version would be loyalty to GTA and its roots.

It's not good to go out of your way to get a console specific to loyalty or DLC, you gonna pick the console with the games you think are best whether it be PS3, 360, Wii or even a Game boy.

If you own a console, get it for your console, if you own both, choose what's more important to you? Loyalty to a company full of people you don't know(provided your a ps fan) or the "oh so specatcular" DLC that will make the 360 version "The ultimate experience" end sarcasm

Everyone has their own opinion

Edit: Im probably gonna get disagrees so let me get onething straight, i have a ps3, i am not a fanboy and likes to think logically. Im not bias to one system over another just pointing out the facts. Just becuase i own a ps3 doesn't mean im dead set on screwing the 360 version

[yanikins111]

You are forgetting about reliabilty. Whether people like it or not, it is a factor.

[znu]

yes reliability does come into a factor, 360s fail, some never do, some always do

ps3s fail too, i have had 3 fail on me(to be fair sony sent me back 2 defective units that were probably damaged during delivery so i blame puralator, the delivery guy was leaning the box agaonst wall with his leg, not even holding it,when i answered the door, twice)

overall ps3 has a much higher reliability than 360. It is an important factor but to me, i care about the games, not about reliability, i picked ps3 cause it had the games i enjoyed the most, pure and simple

[vloeistof]

5 min i will make a snack :)

[Kleptic]

the people whining about this are the people that don't really care...its just them grabbing at air in order to justify their own console preference...it doesn't matter...

and yeah...apparently these guys have never played a PC game...thats the part where the anticipation builds beyond anything imaginable...You pop it in to begin the install...assemble your turkey and roast beef sandwich...and begin...

[Ghoul]

Its rather simple to explain the installs.

since bluray reads only one part at a time it would take to long to move th elaser to the outer part of the disc (wich also turns at a slower speed then the inner parts) so as a dev you load some parts of the disc to the hdd to prevent those "long" laserhead movements on the disc.

[jackdoe]

There are ways to circumevent this, but very few developers ever try.

[Ghoul]

(wich also turns at a slower speed then the inner parts)

ignore that part i meant something else :) cant describe it properly language barrier here ^^ and tired

[Mu5afir]

Blu-Ray disks are read at a constant speed, while DVDs are read at a slower speed as it gets closer to the center. HD-DVD / Blu-Ray are read at a constant speed, so it stays constant 1x throughout. While, DVDs (DVD9) well read at 14x to 4x as it gets to the second layer.

[LightningPS3]

rumors are that the 360 version is brighter. That doesn't mean better or worse. So it's a matter of opinion.

It's weird that some Rockstar employees actually said they "think" the PS3 version looks slightly better. That's coming from 1up themselves.

There's gonna be a lot of comparisons and a lot of argument over this.

[harv052]

Unnecessary comparisons if you ask me...

[crunchie101]

well the people at Rockstar would be the ones to notice - they've been eating, sleeping and dreaming this game for the past however many years

[JVIDICAN]

do you you guys actually think the developers would say the ps3 looks better that would be suicide of course there going to say that they look the same
the employees on the other hand wouldnt be "as" careful about releasing this kind of info

[Kleptic]

yeah it doesn't matter...its going to be a great game on both system...its a high profile game, and every high profile game this generation has been equal on both systems...

but yeah...coming from 1up, in which they are pointing out that the PS3 version may be slightly better in some area...thats saying something...I really expected 1up to throw the PS3 version under the bus...but in the end it still doesn't matter...get the game on whichever system you prefer, both platforms are going to sell millions of this game...

[DJ]

Also has that 5-minute install, but it's optional (which helps out the Core users).

[Ariexv]

You do realize you're quoting an idiot whos review was fake right?

[LightningPS3]

Means you don't have a HDD. So that doesn't make sense.

Unless you mean, they left it optional on 360 so that the core users who don't have an HDD won't suffer.

[ps3-360-wii123]

omg the review was fake there is no install feature on the 360 jesus
whats wrong with people

[PSWe60]

Hell that ain't so bad.
As long as the game plays and looks great, I'm sold

[solar]

consoles are becoming more and more like PC's every gen. if its got a hard drive...they are gonna use it if its an advantage for them. i see no need to worry or care about waiting 5 extra minutes to play a game.

[Mcrmarcher]

well this is pure flambait huh.....they must be going mad in the openzone.

The sixaxis controls sound good, hopefully it does not end up ilke the controls in Lair.

[heavyarms]

I dont want to install sh1t on my console, i just want to put in the disk and play. Will wait for other reviews.

[Azures]

omg omg 5 min what am i gonna do?

die.

[SUP3R]

Seriously now.
A 5min install is too much??
Within those 5mins I can just read an article on n4g or take a piss and it's done.
Geez it's not that serious

[gambare]

Then you must hate playing PC games right? you missed some great titles then.

[narked]

i need a ps3 :( come on its no big deal to install wtf. on pc they last 20-30 min, i read manual at that time. jesus we been waiting months and yrs for this game. just 5 mins bahh some ppl.

[NOLA]

like many others i've been waiting well over a year for this game so 5 mins aint gonna make a difference! just give myself a little more time to prepare myself for whats about to come

[jkhan]

I would love to see what kind of difference does the 5 min install creates. I preordered the 360 version from Aus. & I bought the PS3 version from ebay Hongkong seller:D So lets see how this game shapes up.

[Surfman]

the employees says that the PS3 looks a bit better, but says that we don't really notice... that means the PS3 Version DOES look better. They would'nt says things like that before the game comes out, except if its really better on PS3, that cant be good for them and the 360's sales.

[jackdoe]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose.

[jackdoe]

Meh, five minutes = whatever. Anyway, hopefully it actually helps with the pop-up in the game. If an install would COMPLETELY remove pop-up in the game, I'd be perfectly fine with installs that take up to an hour.

[St0]

Yea apparently there's less popup and framerate dips on the PS3 because of the install. For once im glad there's a install lol

[Sir Ken Kutaragi 1]

GAME OVER xBot Lemmings!!! ;-D

[Kaz Hirai]

The SUPERIOR version of GTA 4 for the SUPERIOR console! We are on track to win the GTA 4 war, Emperor Kutaragi!
King Kaz can't wait to see what Power of Whine and ThePIG at Xboxkings have to say about this!

57 days until Judgment Day, Nazisoft!

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

[HarryEtTubMan]

"The R* Employs he was with also said they "think" the Ps3 version looks slightly better"

You heard it straight from their mouths, BOTS. Shut it up... turn around and take a walk hahahhhahahahaahhahahahha

[Sir Ken Kutaragi 1]

We kept saying that the PS3 version is SUPERIOR and IT IS!!! ;-P
+Whatever they do say will put me asleep!!! ;-D
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz(We are Micro$oft...)zzzzzzzzzzzzz(xBo x360 is...)zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz(The Zune...)zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz(Windo ws Vista will...)zzzzzzzzzzzzzz(Paint Dry!!!)zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz(Hav e they Finished yet!!!)zzzzzzzzz ;-D

[ravinshield]

oblivion...4.6gb required
sony may cry 4...4.7gb-20 min install
full auto 2...1.7gb required
spider man 3...2.3gb-five min install
hot shot golf...5gb-five min install
skate...2.5gb--five min install
wwe smackdown vs raw 2008....2.3gb required
F.E.A.R...2.5gb required
NBA 07....3gb-ten min install
lost....3.6gb---six minute install
conflict denied ops...2.5gb required
beowulf---2.5gb---five minute install
GT prologue--5349MB..13 minutes install
Quake=4.1 GB install
NOW GTA 4...5 min install.

Thats more than 45 GIGS.WOW.hope you didnt buy a 40 gig
WEll all i got to say is
WAIT B3YOND

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Ravin go easy there fella you might explode the disagree button on this site from the fishheads going crazy that you expose facts.

I can see why $ony allows you to change the HDD out now. That's just a sliver of the titles on the POS3, I can't imagine how those are going to add up for a person who purchases all the games like what 5 years from now.

Going to need a 1TB drive to hold them all. Or delete them and waste more time waiting to reinstall them. Oh wait, isn't that in the service agreement for the console. "Must be ready to wait, and wait and wait".

MasSiVE DamAGE!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

It's kinda sad for the Droids when put it in a list like that. That was a real nice pwning dude, real nice.

[Superiorrior]

I'm sorry but if your playing games like "Beowulf" and conflict denied ops, you loser fanbots need to buy real games.

So how does flopbox 360 feel when Ps3 is getting the graphically superior version?

[ICUP]

If the ps3 owner need more gig, they can upgrade their hard-drive without costing them an arm and a leg. HEHEHE

[NO_PUDding]

These attacks are very stupid.

I would prefer have 20 decent games that can stream from the HDD, than 20 hardly good games that I don't get to play because of RROD.

Nah joking, RROD is looowww....

But seriously, saying that is stabbing yourself in the foot, because you can still play without install, and 360's don't even have hardrives as standard.

[Pain]

What!? Ken?? OMG GTA IV Not going to look beter then the PS3's cuz its Old gen xbox Hi-Rezed pile of crap last gen money saving hardware No Space for Sweet grafix space DVD9 +standered HDD inferior RRod loud A$$ Fan PAy to play PER-2-PER Online Foul mouthed Racist Gansta~wannbe tweens!!!??? ......No way....

oh and @ Pog Below Reson Number 1 why we never see PS3 footage is cuz M$ Paid for Media Showing Rights so u dont get to see that PS3 out shine 360's lackLuster~ness.

Truth Sucks but u dont believe logic in your world.

[juuken]

Lol @ ravin.

You can actually upgrade your harddrive you know.
Unlike a certain console...:D

[Bathyj]

I dont care what games have to install if it helps them run/look better. I've got a 250GB HDD in my PS3. Lots of Southpark, Heroes, Rome, Dexter, The whole series of Neon Genesis, Pornand still plenty of room for game saves and installs.

However everytime I download a demo or video on my xbox I have to delete something. A 20GB (make that 13GB of actual space) HDD doesn't go very far.

I cant believe you Bots have the nerve to flame over Hard drives. You must be getting desparate.

[ravinshield]

55 disagrees for telling the truth.people this days

[eagle21]

"The R* Employs he was with also said they "think" the Ps3 version looks slightly better, but Skip says playing side by side he couldn't tell the difference and that the opinion of the R* employees he was with didn't match the opinion of all the dev-team @ R*."

I trust Rockstar. What about u?

@Power of green, please explain? LOL

[Sir Ken Kutaragi 1]

We nearly said that at the same time!!!;-D

[power of Green]

Don't have to they never show the PS3 version. They don't show off their supposed best work. Where does this info come from? please explain that. lol As if Rockstar would cause a fanboy war right before their launch causing damage to their sales lol.

Can't even make heads or tails of it, anyways seems like fanboy editing in it. Rockstar employee's with him said PS3 has the visual edge but some of the dev team at rockstar dissagree? and so does he?. Its going to come down to do you like the Lair look or the Geow(vibrant turned on) look

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Fishhead21 you totally seem like the kind of insecure pecker who would take something so trivial and make a big deal out of it.

1up says they look the same, the DEV TEAM THEMSELVES disgree and say they are the same. You have one mention of R* employees saying they "think" (so there not even positive) that the POS3 may look better. If anything you should just be happy to hit the same mark as the 360 since most multiplatform games on the CRAPSTATION (tm) look like garbage and play like garbage compared to their 360 counterparts.

It must just be killing you that you are getting an inferior partial GTA IV.

@Beagle21 below:

All 1 of your friends is buying the POS3 version eh? You do know that blow-up dolls don't count as friends right red coat? No you didn't speak for R* but your first post on this article which does speak for R* employees and where they got the "think" it looks better, to which the devs disagree with. What system are they doing all their demo's on? The 360 version and you always put your best foot forward. The game isn't far from release and you know there will be a ton of comparisons we will get to the bottom of which one is better.

I am not in any of the stupid vgchartz fake/guess posts because there is no need to comment. They are made up numbers and even if it showed the POS3 winning by 10mil units I would not believe it and will not acknowledge anyone who uses their numbers to say their machine is winning. Japan for sure, US for sure but for everything else it's just made up and we have no idea who's winning in EU/Other. Show me some solid proof from a reputable tracking source and I will be more than happy to take a look. Also, the Falcon 360's are very quiet. Stop using material from 1.5 years ago for your arguements before I start talking about how the POS3 has no games.

[eagle21]

You know deep down your pathetic and sad. Did I speak for Rockstar? Nope. But they had already said this around early march. So it fits in the puzzle.

Why are most of my dual owning freinds buying it for PS3? You know exactly why.

With the sound of that jet engine you call a console, I can see why your brain is behaving the way it is. And where were you on the worldwide hardware sales post? :)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

It's a forum

[Martini]

I have to go with PoG on this one instead of what the army of fisheads says. I mean think about it how many times we have had previews, screenshots and multiplayer sessions done on the 360 instead of ps 3 ?? Doesn't it make you wonder why ?? What are they hiding ?? My bet is that they are "almost" the same with 360 slightly edging out the ps3.

[Martini]

look at saint Hatchet here - you seem to be jumping to a conclusions rather quickly considering you are claiming to be "objective" - don't you think ? Slimy, sleazy fanboys like you are the worst of them all...

[thekingofMA]

you really ignore people just because they dont support your console? thats weak in my opinion, and that you just want to ignore all of the people you disagree with

and "no gamertag=no 360" is completely untrue...did it ever occur to you that some people prefer privacy?

btw...big words does not make you smart buddy (and i already know you arent because of your irrational fear of 360 supporters and such)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Your right thekingofMA I keep my tag private, request only. If you wanna know just PM me, used to have it up but I actualy got some death threats and stalkers over at xbox.com.

Bubbles for you, for thinking with logic.

[Robearboy]

Suddenly become better than the xbox 360 games? last time i checked the 360 owns the top metacritic scores in comparison to the ps3

[DarK-SilV]

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[Obama]

I don't mind the 5 minutes install as long as we get better graphics and less framerate problems. Serveral gaming sites have already claimed that the ps3 version has better graphics, so I am not so suprised about this. I am just preidcting that the ps3 version will be less framerate problems.

Why does the 360 version have no install? May be because they can't since harddrive is not standard, thus resulting in slightly inferior graphics and framerate problems.

[eagle21]

and come back to play the better version...lol :)

[lawman1108]

It took almost 10 mins to load MLB the show 08 to my 60gb PS3 and also I agree that if they are ONLY showing the 360 version of GTA IV there is a very good reason for it.

[power of Green]

"They're the same atleast!. Because we all know multi platform games are better on PS3 when its not the lead *wink* *wink*.
1up would end their reputation falsey tagging issues on PS3 and if PS3 did not have issues it should have been clearly stated that the PS3 version has either not been played through or that it does not have these issues. lol

Why wasn't it pointed out" this is only the 360 version why didn't they say *the PS3 version has yet to be played through* or *the PS3 does not suffer these issues*.

I think they're worse on PS3 no amount of attacks will change that(360 fans don't try to destroy non praiser and 1up knows it).

PS3's RAM use will have you guys crying as soon as some reviwer has the balls enough to come out and tell it how it is.

All the smarter Sony fanboys are not jumping all over this useing this as a chance to bash 360 because they know better. Sony fanboys sense somethings wrong, this is why hardly any Sony fanboys are in here" or should I say there doesn't seem to be as much as there should be."

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[ikiru3385]

those framerate and pop issues would still be present in the 360 build, so how can you say that the ps3 is the lesser version?....idiot

[Superiorrior]

Like everything you type/say pog, your an idiot, leave N4G.

[Varsarus]

The PS3's RAM is approx 4 or 5 times faster than the 360's RAM, it's more efficient with less latency, hell, it's even the best RAM out there, plus, PSM3 stated that the PS3 version is graphically on par with the 360 version and the frame rate is extremely smooth.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

Seems like the 360's inferior hardware is too weak to keep the game running at a stable frame rate. The PS3 however, shouldn't have a problem, I wouldn't think them issues would of affected the PS3 version aswell, if it's been coded properly that is...

[sak500]

@4.3

Are you Ken in disguise? Same b$hit about Cell whaahhwahh, BD whaaaawhaaa, pixarlike graphics whaaawhaaa ram 100times faster yet most fcuking games tend to have framerate issues.

[gEnKiE]

OMG!!!?? 5 minutes of my life.....waisted!!

[xg-ei8ht]

Use that extra 5mins to learn how to spell.

Wasted.

[Coke-a-Cola]

I would wait an Hour for an install to play this Game ............
And while it installed I would roll up my sleeves and polish my Gun.

[mentalboy11]

the contributor makes it like hes trying to make it so the ps3 version isnt as bad as they say, isntead of just posting the news and letting us have our own opinions.

[Skerj]

Sh*t 5 minutes!! I'll just take a dump and play Castlevania still and then when it's done I'll just pick up the DS3 and start to jacking. ..carjacking you sicko!!

[solar]

front to back or back to front? :P

[RealTimeWeaponChange]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 5 MINUTE DUMP. U BETTER HOPE THE INSTALL IS LONGER THAN THAT!

[Skerj]

Front to back man, then a shower.

[Bazookajoe_83]

Thats wierd, nice with the sixaxis control =) I wonder if the ps3 version look better, this is the secont time ive heard it, i doubt it thou. They will probably look the same..

[Saupau]

Everyone knew PS3 version > 360

[Hydrolex]

It's AWESOME !

PS3 has everything or more than what Xbox 360 have.

The question is

Why Xbox 360 doesnt have this installation ?

The Answer is

Because the PS3 version has something that the Xbox 360 version doesn't have.

Thank you

[Not the Face]

everything like better online and 50% more gameplay huh? oh and custom soundtracks. there is a reason the playstaionary needs the 5min instal and its blueray. so wait and see when the game is actually out, ther will be no difference minus the above and some minor differences in graffics(which could not be said to be better or worse) so ah grow up and keep you mouth shut until the game is out cause losers like you are wasting my time trying to find somthing interresting to read here.

[Mcrmarcher]

As long as we get to play the game, 5 mins who cares? im sure the install is good for something other wise whats the point?

[Hydrolex]

The PS3 version is better

but in Xbox 360 fans opinion, Rockstar is joking

[JBO DA WARLOK]

TOLD YA SO -SKIP IS A PS3 fanboy nothing more nothing less!!!!!!

[heyheyhey]

Sixaxis controls FTW!!! i love Sixaxis

on a side note, look at this bullsh!t POG is spreading- its laughable

the guy clearly says he thinks the PS3 version looks better, yet somehow this is supposed to mean its vastly inferior due to the PS3's RAM or something

your a sad, sad person POG

[GiantEnemyCrab]

how funny.

Yes it's so clear that the employees "think" (and was even in quotes) it's better while the dev team disagrees. Sorry I will take the dev team over some non-named employee at R* anyday. You also seem to miss the whole point of the person mentioning playing them side by side and not noticing a difference.

Really freakin clear.. LOL

[JVIDICAN]

you do realize the devs themselves would never say one version is superior to the other(cod4 looks better on the ps3 devs tried to downplay it) that would be suicide.
just regular employees wouldnt be so tight liped about something like this though

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Your on a roll, quick kick em in the nuts while their stunned.

"FINISH HIM!"

[heyheyhey]

@Crabman

reading is super-duper cool isnt it?

was i saying that a particular version is better? NO!!!!!

i was merely laughing at how POG was spinning such a simple remark into some giant loss for the PS3

i have no idea what version runs better, and thus will reserve judgement until the comparison reviews are out

[lawman1108]

"Worst controler ever" as gay as Hey,heyhey

[va_bank]

Awesome.

It better work well, like in Warhawk (I can't play that game with analog sticks anymore)

[Mcrmarcher]

really? wow, didn't know this. when was this said just curious?

[Kain81]

Right and the ps3 version has Splitscreen coop-modus

[JBO DA WARLOK]

any r* employee would be foolish to make a comment it would equal no job+ lawsuit this is fake skip is nobody check the forum ps3 fanboys need to stop approving every story thats "in THEIR favor" you guys are begining to look extermeley ignorant HOW DID THIS GET APPROVED???

[Hydrolex]

go f*ck yourself man,

Why when something is against Xbox 360 is fake ? but when something is agains PS3 it's not fake.

Really, go put your mother fuking fanboism aside and grow some ballz

[RealTimeWeaponChange]

LMFAO. This coming from the 1 bubble king himself, drooler king Hydrolicks?

[SKullDugger]

I'm pretty sure the PS3 copy will have less brake downs because of less hardware failures.

[Hatchet]

SKIP also goes onto say ' it's true. I made it all up. I'm actually an accountant in sioux city, iowa.'

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[tfur]

You added your own opinion and misquoted what was actually said, in regards to [sic] "the opinion of the R* employees he was with didn't match the opinion of all the dev-team @ R*."

quote

"the one thing I'll clarify is that my original preview text didn't specify a controller/system -- not sure why that got added in editing. we reviewed primarily on the 360, with spending some brief time with the PS3 version to compare. the rockstar guys told us they think that the PS3 looks slightly better, but it really was hard to tell.

we were too busy having fun trying to run tanker trucks into gas stations."

quote

"I'm sure they weren't representative of the entire company/dev team, and seriously, as we were doing A/B comparisons on the same TV, we got both versions mixed up. it's not a big deal."

[Spike47]

Of green get a life dude.

You know very well that if Rockstar said the xbox360 version was slightly better you would jump in joy and bash the heck out of the Ps3.

And stop saying xbox360 fanboys don't do this or that, all fanboys are alike, just different tastes if even that.

[Jamegohanssj5]

Hydrolex you made me laugh with that comment. Bubbles.

The Genius has spoken.

[bioshock]

hey man no offence but ur time is up. nobody wants to hear ur useless comments as they have no potential, no logic, so get the hell outa here with ur RR0D 360...and play GTA as long as it works and dint blow up....

[Kain81]

angry cause they supported the wrong Console^^

[sleepbox]

I will take 10+ hours of extra content exclusive to the 360 version over some placebo Ps3 looks "slightly better" bs

[rosebowl23]

id rather have free home content, free online multiplayer, faster load times, better frame rates, no pop in, etc, than to pay for some extra episodes

[iHEARTboobs]

Extra dlc is great but not that important if there's more games coming out around the same time that dlc hits. If you're a PS3 owner you should be set all year without any worries over GTA4 dlc.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Whats up with all the installs? WOW! two big install bummers in one day. Quake Wars has 4gb install, now this. Can we say "Blu-Ray Trojan"

[cyclindk]

I partially agree with you, mandatory installs are carp, luckily I don't have any games that require massive installs.

[Superiorrior]

Lol, streaming more textures, check, less pop ups, check, like, whatever you say we don't give a sh!t, if the PS3 users get a technical superior version then sure make fun of us, because it's such a loss isn't it? Jesus, all the 360 guys are dumb as bricks.

[devilhunterx]

Although I do agree that force installing sucks, but I rather have a console which works for longer then 10 minutes.

[THC CELL]

POGMART its funny
They always show of and test x box first

Stick the x box up where the sun don't shine mate
Ps3 is all ready on high demand
DLC are no use as well
They come out when all the best ps3 games come out
i really dont think people will care
at that point la la la

[cyclindk]

Hope they use six axis for everything: running, jumping, shooting, screwing prostitutes, driving, et cetera. Can't beat six axis, no sir.

[aiphanes]

I laughed my booty off when you said using the sixaxis dualshock 3 to screw the prostitutes!

That would be awesome!

[sorry_no_CODs]

PS3 comes standard with an HDD so no one is left out from having the best experience possible with the game. A big reason for this is due to the 2x bluray drive which of course reads discs slower than the 8x DVD drive in a 360, hence slower load times. I personally don't see a problem with the installs as I'd certainly prefer a game that performs better.

Motion sensing to drive? No thanks. Hopefully the motion controls for PS3 slowly get left to the wayside because they certainly have felt like nothing more than a gimmick at this point.

Overall I can't wait to get my hands on this game. I'm waiting to see how the multiplayer runs on PS3 before determining which system to get it on. Either way, it's going to be an awesome experience.

[rosebowl23]

blu-ray is only slower than the first layer on a 360 disc but faster than the second layer on a 360 disc

[Hatchet]

13 - JUST FANNING THE FIRE BY THE LOOKS OF IT!!!!
SKIP also goes onto say ' it's true. I made it all up. I'm actually an accountant in sioux city, iowa.'

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[tfur]

Dude, that skip works for 1up...

It is his preview that they are talking about... and that he is discussing...

EDIT: Seriously, whoever disagreed... This is THE guy who wrote the preview, and works at 1up. This is a fact. His accountant remark is what is called sarcasm... wow...

[RealTimeWeaponChange]

For the same of you fanboys, I really hope the SexAsses control is OPTIONAL. And sorry for the install-time. Hopefully this makes it load comparable to the 360 without an install (ala DMC4).

[thehitman]

The dl on DMC4 makes the ps3 version faster not just up to par. Also only u 360 fans would see this as negative because either you have no hard drive so to you it seems bad or your just to bias to see straight.

[Ri0tSquad]

DMC4 load times on ps3 were better then 360s by seconds, installs take wear off of blu-ray lens etc. But unfortunately no matter how many times you'll hear it there will always be someone like you or you who brings it up, lol.

What ever helps you sleep at night.

SexAsses? Lol, that was weak, your corny.

[poopface1]

and the loads were usualy sorter than 3 seconds so I guess the ps3 has no load times. The loads take place durring the cutscenes and if you skip them there were still really shrot loads. Either way it doesnt matter cause the 360 still had really short loads and the ps3 loads were almost noexistant I think.

[Mr Marbles]

First we have to wait longer because of the PS3, and now the PS3 fans have to wait again before they can play the game? That is BullSh%T

Man it sucks to be a PS3 fan, you guys should really jump ship, the PS3 is trash.

[JVIDICAN]

5 minutes is beter than 5 weeks ;)

[iHEARTboobs]

That's if you're lucky enough for it to have happened to you just once.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I don't want to step on any toes or anything,
but how is the PS3 trash?, explain what you mean.

If the PS3 is trash then your telling me that
I've been playing my trash all this time?

I Don't get the logic of calling a game console
trash, I Wouldn't even call the Super NES trash.

[Ri0tSquad]

"First we have to wait longer because of the PS3"

Wait longer? No, it was delayed because of the online portion of the game.

"and now the PS3 fans have to wait again before they can play the game?"

Oh no, 5 minutes, ahhhhhhh!

"Man it sucks to be a PS3 fan, you guys should really jump ship, the PS3 is trash."

PS3 is trash because of a 5 minute install? It sucks to be you, most of your post sound like you have a personal vendetta against Sony.
This man deserves a round of applause. This takes the cake.

[bioshock]

version of the game is not a port of 360..they have made it from ground...so u gonna c the difference..

[disgaea]

they "think" the Ps3 version looks slightly better

[TheEndzor]

Seriously POG give it up.

Xbox360 is on the decline the evidence is clearly out there. Hell now that i think about it. You and "hegotcrabs" are the only real xbox fanboys left on N4g. even you xbox guys are a dying breed

So stop dwelling on the past and look ahead.

Maybe you will see the direction the console market is taking. it is def looking grim for the xbox

EDIT: @ Mr Marbles. LoL @ you

[poos3]

guys the ps3 is a pile of crap dont worry when the comparison vids come out u tools will shut u p like u did last year with assasins creed + turok and the rest of the multplatgames dont run like crap on the ps3 also ull shut up about your crappy PS3 BUnDLE as microsoft just owned u with exclusive right to showing gta adverts on tv thank god that 1 made u guys crawl back into ur caves as ur not on the gta uk 360 advert psot being a fanboy cat got ur tongues ?

[TheEndzor]

I hear Rosetta Stone is selling an English version.

[power of Green]

I remember huge titles like DMC4 and Assasin's Creed were carefully talked about due to the offensive nature of games that can prove a console's power over another, for the longest time the reviewers were shaddy about it... it took many weeks for them to admitt or have the balls enough to say these games looked better on the 360.

They did the same with Assasin's Creed and DMC4 the media are fearful of the PS3 fanboy hype machine.

[JVIDICAN]

dmc4 looked better on the ps3 friend

[Trick Nolte]

Did u just say Turok? Turok??? that game is a POS on both consoles. YOU HAVE JUST WON YOURSELF AN ALL EXPENSE PAID TRIP ON THE APT BUS FOR "SPECIAL PEOPLE"- YOU TARD!

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I did not understand anything
you just said, try typing slower.

That's no joke either, I really had trouble
understanding what you typed.

[juuken]

There's a language called English.

LEARN IT, and then you can come back with more intelligent insults.

[bioshock]

DLC are no use as well
They come out when all the best ps3 games come out ....

sony knws how to handle the businuss...look what they did at GTA4 launch GT5.p haze and MGS4...in 2 months

they knw Gears and DLC are the M$ last defence and they will be showering games rite at tht time.....

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I thought Halo 3 was MS's last defense?

You fishheads make me laugh. You will lie/skew/manipulate things to whatever fits your cause.

Like POS3 said, we will wait for the comparison videos and just like with Assassins Creed when the same fishheads claimed how superior their version was and then the facts came out and we realized how buggy of a mess it was on the POS3.

Just look at the track record for multiplatform titles.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Stick a fork in him he's done.

[Varsarus]

Then I suppose it was from shoddy programming by Ubicrap, Uncharted looks and is better than it, and no doubt the best looking console game today.

[phctheone]

nice

[bootsielon]

Oh no, call the whaaaambulance

[niall77]

so be it.

[RealTimeWeaponChange]

No. It means it MIGHT load as fast as the 360.

[Whoooop]

Poor bots...

The only game they have to look forward this year and they get the sh|tty version...

I really feel sad for you guys

:(

[4D]

PREINSTALL B3YOND B!TCHES

Sucks to be a PS3 fanboy. You waited a year longer for your console. You paid more money for your console. You waited for rumble. Your still waiting for 4D. Havent cured Cancer yet. PSN is slower than sh!t. Your gonna have to pay $40.00 for a demo of GT5 while you wait another year at least for the real game. You get craptastic ports because your hardware is crappy to develop for. And now after all this waiting, you get GTA4 home, and have to.....

WAIT SOME MORE. OWNED. Nice mandatory pre-install because Blu-Ray sucks balls. SUCK IT!!!!!

[TheEndzor]

Your lame attempts at ps3 bashing is hilarious. your whole "attack" is actually a compliment

for example:

"You paid more money for your console"
Yes we did. and even after xbox price cuts it is still selling more. Consumers are starting to see why the Playstation is better.

"Your gonna have to pay $40.00 for a demo of GT5 while you wait another year at least for the real game."
This demo is outselling any FULL xbox game currently on the market and when the full game finally comes out. it will also outsell any Xbox game.

Your other 'attacks" are not even worth commenting on. You have much anger in you. Perhaps jealousy is the cause?

[iHEARTboobs]

Owned due to a 5 minute install? I think M$ is the king of owning due to their RROD and everyone still on it's d!ck. I can understand if you love the 360 and it dies once but if it happens to you more than that and you keep going to it then you must love gettting teabagged. Cuz that's what M$ is doing to you. I think that's a bigger own. But it's ok right? They're taking care of it for free and you'll get it back in about a month.

[JVIDICAN]

like i said before im sure we'd rather wait 5 minutes than wait 5 weeks ;)

[Ali_The_Brit]

let me start by saying i own both consoles,
PS3 hardware is superior to the now getting outdated 360 hardware, it isnt crappy to dev for as theyv tried to tell you sad losers its just DIFFERENT, NEW
and blu-ray sucks? guess thats why it holds 3 times as much as your disks and has won the format war officialy...oh yeh blu-ray is terrible isnt it fanboy

[Salta_nelas]

And 5 min install is nothing and will most probably improve loading times and frame rates.

[bioshock]

i can only say onething for u....our kid will knw soon enough....

[LightningPS3]

at Rockstar saying PS3 version looks slighty better.

That's a quote straight from 1up, who spoke with Rockstar employees.

I sense the anger from XBOX b*tches, they wanted it so bad for their version to be better. I don't blame them, this is all they really have this year.

[mmj]

5mins mandatory install versus 5mths of ~50dB disc thrashing.

Geee, tough one...

[power of Green]

Almost all Sony fanboy opinions are derived from fiction thats for sure.

You have to double check everything they say or show you(I do it three times)

[sabbath420]

some looser said the 360 has bad framerate. What the? It's the ps3 that has framerate issues.

[JVIDICAN]

no actually it is the 360 according to ign, friend

[Superiorrior]

@ idiot420: The issues sighted being "aliasing" issues for the Xbox 360 version, maybe you should try taking some reading comprehension classes dumbass.

[zonetrooper5]

That first ever review was fake, it was a joke. A fanboy stir to flamebait you lot into arguing.

[rosebowl23]

shorter load times FTW

[PS360PCROCKS]

you my friend are out of the loop. Their are NO load times. No load times FTW!

[andron]

Especially on GTA4 it will be beneficial.

Two reasons: Less noise from and strain on the optical drive. And load times will be optimal. It's a next gen. benefit. 360 owners with HDD will also benefit from this if they install.

[zonetrooper5]

I'm actually laughing, god I love the Open zone. =)

Also devs and employess, remember.

[Salta_nelas]

"ouch
at Rockstar saying PS3 version looks slighty better."

indeed.

[Big Jim]

5 minute install? NOOOOOOOO!!!!! What can I possibly do for five whole minutes besides playing a video game? Thats the last straw Sony. I will now sell my PS3 and move into a cabin in the woods and live by fishing, hunting and picking berries and mushrooms.

[Iron Man 2]

LOL @ Xzombies,5 minutes is NOTHING! BTW how does it feel knowing your getting the inferior version of the only game you brainless zombies have to look forward to this year and possibly even ever?...LMFAO!XD

[Asurastrike]

Oh noes! 5 minute install that makes the game run smoother!

[brothersimon]

LOL @ all these droids pouring in

retards, go watch a bluray movie. Like I care about some install, Im just gonna play the game not wait 5 minutes

only reason u need to install is cus the bluray drives so slow :(

[Trick Nolte]

Just because BR doesnt read disc as fast as your HD DVD drive died and became a useless POS doesnt mean its slow. Just means your slow.. TARD!

[Obama]

360 version: inferior graphic and framerate problem
ps3 version: 5 minutes install

It seems that each version has its own problems, but then with the 5 minutes install you get a better looking version of the game.

[Martini]

Spoken like a true politician = full of $hit.

Rabbid fanboys jump on the sentence - "they "think" the Ps3 version looks slightly better" but then they totally miss the "opinion of the R* employees he was with didn't match the opinion of all the dev-team @ R*. "

Hahaha gullible sony kids are at it again spreading FUD and lies all over. Some things never change......

[Trick Nolte]

the install isnt even a problem. Its just that 360 fanboys dont have anything else to throw out there to discredit Sony. Their useed to saying schit like theres no games on PS3 etc..etc and now that they are the ones getting 1 good game once every 6 or 7 months... has left them angry and desperate.

I see it like this. If GTA4 looks better on 360 or PS3 so be it. 360 fans better hope it looks better because its the only good game coming out besides NG2 and GeOW2 waaaaaaaay in November.

Meanwhile, PS3 Owners are enjoying GTS:P, GTA4, Hot Shots Golf5(very fun game), GTA4, HAZE, WipeOut HD(Giggidy!!) MGS4( :P ) all readily avaible between now - 2 months. Not to mention Resistance 2 and KZ2 on the way later this year. SONY OWNS 08! deal with it.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

For GTA4 it's WAY worth it anyways regardless
of benifits!, We are pre-ordering the Special
edition PS3 version, GTA4 will rock on either
console, It's friggin GTA for crist sake and
It's Rockstar!, It can only be good.

Once GTA4 is released expect less people arguing
on here, since we'll all be in Liberty city
killing each other!. :)

[Bizmal]

Installs are new to newby console gamers. But it's old school to me and it will only make the game run faster and play better. If the Xbox didn't have all there doors closed and have such limited hardware it would install too and it too would run faster and play better.

[jib]

pertaining to gamers who buy a lot of games. with all these games now requiring installation/space for your HD(in the GB), does this mean that its inevitable for 20gb PS3 owners to upgrade their hard drive if they want to continue to play all their games?

[alcaponedya]

they can always delete the files.
Anyways, 5 minutes isn't long and is worth it.
Better than pop ups and frame problems on the 360

[aiphanes]

How many people actually have a 20GB PS3 and still just have the 20GB harddrive? Like maybe 5 people.....I was in Best Buy a few days ago...and they have the 320GB 2.5 inch SATA drive on sale for $179!!!

This is the same price of the crappy 120GB drive for the Xbox 360...and that is the largest drive the Xbox 360 can have....The 400 and 500 GB 2.5 inch sata drives are comming soon...

[rucky]

I kept my old 20gb hard drive for warranty purposes. Bought a 250gb one for $79 after rebates... That's 120gb+ more than the proprietary hard drive on the 360 for $100 less.

[Ri0tSquad]

People are comparing Assassins Creed and DMC4 to GTA4? Lol, you do know these are all different developers and Rockstar has stated they have got Sony's help on the game. Besides that, how many PS3 games has Rockstar made on the PS3? 0. How about the 360? Hmmm...more the 1 apparently since there using the Table Tennis engine in GTA4. So if GTA4 does end up looking better on PS3 I expect a lot of you to be in silent mode.

I think it'll end up being like COD4, equal.

--edit--
So that gives me the idea that Sony had the install to improve performance on the game itself.

Just because 360 doesn't get installs doesn't mean some of there games couldn't use one. Halo 3 & Mass Effect could definitely of used an optional install. I hated starting story and having to wait for that crap to make its way around that thing and the elevators in Mass Effect were killing me.

[Varsarus]

They also said they had Microsoft engineers to help, but it looks like they're not doing a good job lol.

"The top engineers from Sony and Microsoft are working closely with the team in Edinburgh right now, helping us to fully leverage the power of both platforms"

http://blog.newsweek.com/bl...

[Obama]

You can't expect much from the MS engineers since they are probably the same bunch who designed the RROD console in the first place.

[fanboi hater]

As far a graphics go, however i tend to agree as i lean more towards warmer colors than vibrant as they seem to give it a more realistic look

[Citizen Cook]

HA HA HA HA!

[Trick Nolte]

Just pray you dont have to "install" that 360 in a coffin after it RROD's while you playing GTA4. We wait 5 minutes for it to install but how many weeks will you wait b4 you get your box back? waz'zat? 4.....5..... WEEKS!!! LMAO. You bots are a bunch of morose mothafukcaz right about now!

Play B3yond or Play belouX Biyach!

[Mcrmarcher]

These installs should be optional, if all games have these updates then its not really fair to the people who bought 20 and 40gb version. Maby this is sony trying to force owners to upgrade their hard drives. just a thought.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

as I said before, I Don't mind
a 5 min install for one of the best
games of 2008!.

I'm Just Glad my console is so reliable.
I'd be so pissed if my Console just died
on april 29th!. Luckily I Don't have
to worry about this.

[americanGTA]

I think i can wait 5 mins, i waited for this game since 2004

[Ureval]

Im a 360 owner and downloads to help a game run smoother doesnt bother me at all. My only concern would be the strain it would have on a hard drive.

PS3 owners, have you had any trouble with HD filling up too quickly?

[JVIDICAN]

i got an 80gb so im good =P

[PiTCHBLaCK]

60 GB here, we're good for now but will eventually
upgrade to a 300+ GB.

[Varsarus]

I suppose people should look at this about Blu-ray vs DVD read times (if you know about technology that is)

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

The people there at Beyond3D knows alot more than we do put togther, so it should make sense.

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

If you fools had been paying attention you would know that the install is available for 360 as well, though it is optional. W/O using the install, which takes a paltry 5-8 mins. (On PS3 anyways), the game suffers significant graphical issues.

The reason GTA4 was delayed in the 1st place was because they couldn't make it fit on 1 dvd for 360, they were going to make HDD's mandatory for the 360 version.

And for all you Xbots who think mandatory installs fill up your HDD - PS3 owners have the privelage of installing any hdd they want as long as it fits certain parameters. I can get an 300gb HDD for less than you can by the 120gb HDD for 360. I'm not worried about my HDD filling up anytime soon.

Not to mention that mandatory installs ensure the game runs smoother and cut down on loading time. Loading the same data everytime you boot up a game adds up, I'll gladly trade in 10 mins of install time for hrs of loading screens.

And on another note, I heard that the reason 360 get DLC is because the XBOX version is deprived of splitscreen multiplayer - unlike the PS3 version. Personally, I could care less, because by the time all of the DLC is released, I will have moved on to better games.

I cant wait for this game to release so we can start talking about more interesting games. I'm sick of every article being about the overrated GTA4.

[Martini]

Another sony queer spreading bull$hit about splitscreen from a fake article - what a tool. Oh yeah if there wasn't install then you would be playing a slide show as that was the only way R* could have gotten the frame rate close to the 360's frame rate.

[nutmaniv]

This gen is so weird...The 360 might need some installs since it uses DVD. The PS3 has blu ray, but the drive is so slow that many games need installs. Hopefully by next gen this will all be sorted out and we can back to the good ol days where you put a game in and you can play it. Like right when you put it in.

[Roller]

If you look later on in the posts "skip" admits that he it made it all up http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[juuken]

Oh you xbots. You guys are so freakin' lame. Lol, I would hate to see when MGS4 comes along. I'm sure heartattacks will be appearing very soon from now.

[Rourker]

its called the open zone, although what you said was slightly funny. :)

[gen1680]

We have been waiting for this game for how many years? What's another 5 minutes?

[pwnmaster3000]

its ok. i can do lots of stuff in 5 min, but for xbots which they have no-life out of video game, dont kno wat to do. thats why there here saying waitbeyond. there probably thinking "omg 5 min wat can they do is impossible to wait 5-min without video games".

and beside we have the better version.

[Rourker]

the install is the DLC coming later to the 360.
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wow complete joke

[budbundystyles]

Ravinshield,
Everyone is really impressed you can cut and paste directly from GameInformer. GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Trick Nolte]

A GTA Ad on a hotel(large pick #3) seen from the BQE. Which Logo appeaars 1st and which is secondary? click to enlarge. See what 50 mill gets you? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://multiplayerblog.mtv....

[f789790]

What will we do during those five horrible minutes? I'm going to go buy a 360 and save myself some time.

[LinuxGuru]

OH MY GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEEEEAAASE DON'T EVER ASK ME TO USE ANY OF MY HARD DRIVE SPACE!!!! I WANT MY HARD DRIVE TO HAVE FREE SPACE FOREVER!!!!

[PR0NE]

looool funny sh!t... bubbles for you

[Kyur4ThePain]

I just love how the PS3 installs are considered "mandatory".

I'm pretty sure that if all 360's COULD handle installs, developers would do it there too. But, alas, that's not a possibility.

[PS360PCROCKS]

No the 360 just reads the disk quicker to not have to HAVE mandatory installs. Jackass

[Kyur4ThePain]

What did you just call me? Do you know me?

Are you saying that there would be absolutely no gain to be had by doing an install on a 360? None?

[LinuxGuru]

It's a common misconception that the 360 reads data from DVDs faster than the PS3 reads from blu-ray.

Most if not all 360 games are on dual-layer DVDs now.

That means the max read speed is at 8X.

Additionally, the 360's DVD drive changes read speed based upon where on the disk the data is located.

Also....blu-ray is CBR - constant bit rate, so no matter where the disk is being read from....data is always transferring at the same rate.

So, sorry "jackass" (PS360rocks), your supposed knowledge of the drive differences is incorrect.

[Diugu]

You're wrong... I would explain but someone beat me to it.

So I guess the Jackass here is not Kyur... sorry.

[Strife Lives]

All I know is N4G shall be deserted... On LAUNCH DAY FOR GTA4 ! ! You guys,really we dont need to fight or argue about this! I read so many comments that should be in the open zone.Im just saying,lets just get the game and play it. Im sick of this comparisons etc.N4G... With the console lines drawn ,sounds like a racist site.take some time to read the comments. Mines better than yours it streams better.mines better than yours it holds more information. gees,lighten up people.we've all got consoles (or gaming pc's ,nt me tho) here

[Domer25]

now that's funny. i hope it's not true. ---------

[Genuine]

You folks told the gaming world that blu-ray was a necessity for next-gen gaming. If that's the case, then why did you put a BR drive in the ps3 that is so slow that it completely negates the advantage of extra disc space? We all had dreams of 25gb photorealistic worlds oozing content. Instead we get 5 copies of one game on a disc, and mandatory installs, it seems your competition is having no trouble getting better performance from a 8.5GB DVD9. Atleast the puny 2X speed drive is whisper quiet. But we could have lived with a little drive noise, if the payoff was an actual 25GB of epic gaming. Be honest Sony, gaming wasn't the point behind blu-ray was it. I'm personally thinking your movie studio's, home theatre, and HDTV divisions had more to do with blu-ray than gaming. So Sony why are we installing GB's of data to our HDD's, when a blu-ray disc has a 25GB disc space capacity?

[Trick Nolte]

BR is serving a great gaming purpose as well as movie purpose. 360 games like Blue Dragon and Lost Odyessy could easily fit on a single BR disc instead of the FOUR required for 360. I dont have a problem with the installs and would rather wait a few minutes rather than switching disc after disc. thats so PS1

[Ri0tSquad]

But Sony has continuously proved Blu-Ray is actually needed for these 25/50 gb games. You can use 25 gb and have no install. Uncharted proved this and it almost used a 50 gb disc and it would look worse if it was on a dvd. Same with Ratchet. It can be done with a dvd but it would look worse. MGS4 speaks for itself. It depends on how you use the SPUs. The Fallout 3 developer even came out and explained it.

[PS360PCROCKS]

i SURELY hope you don't sixaxis all vehicles, that would be a nightmare! It's hard to get used to doing that all the time, I would crash into EVERYTHING!!

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Lots of arguing here, but guess whats missing?
Wii fans, They arent even getting GTA4 and there
fine with that, but I think it's because just
about every Wii owner owns a PS3 or 360 to, so
there good! :)

[PumPum]

Im getting the superior playstation 3 version with better graphics and a much better framerate and more realistic colours.
5min install? Good i have time to open a beer and take a look at the GTA map.

[Ali_The_Brit]

because iv had oblivion and now oblivion goty, and it AINT no 4.6GB so hes just full of lies. besides on the PS3 you can easily update your HDD without fear of vialating terms or some sh!t like on my xbox, and id rather a 5 minutes install and get a better performance thats why im going for ps3 version even tho i have both consoles

[Venomous_1]

I will be looking at the Blu-ray Case and the booklet!

[redmamoth]

... bubbles for you! 360 owners will be reading that booklet A LOT when their console goes back to M$ for repair!! Haha!!

[LinuxGuru]

Speaking of which, one of my classmates' 360 died on her today, and she was about to finish Oblivion.

She and I couldn't help but laugh about it...she knew I warned her, too.

Ha!

[spacetoilet]

YOU ARE A LOSER.

Please leave N4g, you are ignored by 145+ users and you still get more disagrees than anyone else. I know you are breaking a sweat keeping all those multiple accounts alive so your bubbles don't die..but give it up dude.
Take you head from out of your dumb MS loving 4ss and leave.
You spew forth bullsh1t and FUD. You have never played a ps3 game in your sad life so no more comments.
Maybe you and giant crab can play galo together?
I'm sure there is a million 13 year old douche bags on live right now. After all it is the 'superior' online experience.

[Britjadg]

jesus, fuking 105 posts b*tching at each other for what amounts to a roughly equal experience on both consoles...

its coz POGS in here being his usual idiot self. throw in his regular cheerleaders jason360 and uglycrab and you have the receipe for a sh*t pie.

particularly amused by POGs comments that he has to check sonyboys comments for factual correctness at least 3 times, so unbelieveably hypocritical i nearly fell off my chair laughing.

Meet the 360 messiah everybody -----> POWEROFGREEN. (douche)

[Solid_Skip]

i loved gta on the ps3 and iam use to playing it on the ps3 so iam getting it on the ps3. sorry xbox you had rb6 now its ps3's turn to get a great game.

[Vip3r]

Even though it's "mandatory" I'd would have still installed it anyway even if it was optional. But all these install are begininng to become annoying Sony. I wish they'd put a faster BD player in the PS3.

[Britjadg]

@ media73: ps3 has been a massive flop? will if YOU say so, it must be true.

cant wait to play this, its gonna roxxors, although after reading it had a 5 min install on ps3 i was thinking of packing up shop and exchanging my ps3 for an xbox. its a shame its not compulsory for xbox 360, that kid who broke his mums vaccum would have had a brief moment to do his chores.

[DARK WITNESS]

hummm you know what....

i may just get this game for both my 360 and ps3. The small differences with most of the other games has never bothered me, but i love this game that much that i want everything...

unfortunately i am not as patient as some of you. when i get a good game in my hands, i want it in my console and playing faster then it takes me to physically do it.

i don't know if its just my ps3, but installs always take way longer then just 5 min. i went mad waiting for the install for prologue. it took about 15 min.

still while i am installing it on my ps3, i can play it on my xbox, then flip channels every 5 min to play both games at the same time !

love it ........ i am so mad for this game !

[Saupau]

YAY! PS3 VersioN!!!!!!!

[bioshock]

just in march bully got released and it suffered a bad fate with all the freezing tht was also r* star game and it was on 360...whos knws if GTA4 suffer with same probs...

[ScottEFresh]

THE BOTS fabricating lies again...

"oblivion...4.6gb required FALSE
sony may cry 4...4.7gb-20 min install CAPCOM
full auto 2...1.7gb required ... FALSE
spider man 3...2.3gb-five min install
hot shot golf...5gb-five min install
skate...2.5gb--five min install
wwe smackdown vs raw 2008....2.3gb required
F.E.A.R...2.5gb required.... FALSE
NBA 07....3gb-ten min install
lost....3.6gb---six minute install
conflict denied ops...2.5gb required NO ONE BOUGHT THIS
beowulf---2.5gb---five minute install NO ONE BOUGHT THIS EITHER
GT prologue--5349MB..13 minutes install DOWNLOADABLE
Quake=4.1 GB install HUH???
NOW GTA 4...5 min install. BETTER VERSION

I don't have the other games so can't comment but most likely they don't have installs or they are minimal. F.E.A.R. and Full Auto 2 both have NO installs that are required. GT5 is available through the d/l so thats why you have to install it and with GTA4 we get the better version. Quake 4? How the fck do you even know? Please DESPERATE BOTS stop FABRICATING LIES in order to try and downplay the pure dominance by the PS3.

[juuken]

Amen.

[dale1]

people keep on going on about the bluray drive speed, dvd speed,as no one thought that rockstar is going to use the hard drive instead like gt5 does ,just a thought,thats a bit quicker i beleive

[EDF 2017]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Whoever bouoght a PS3 would have been better off with a computer, LOL!!! Losers

[Britjadg]

that would be whoMever and bought.

and no they wouldn't. idiot.

[Intrepid]

Actually, it's whoever. It's the subject and not the object.

[MrBii]

after all, stinkin bots.

They said it only takes a few minutes to install GTA4 on PS3. And it turns out to be true. NOW WHAT XBOTS? GETTING SCARED YET?

HAAHAHAHA. GTA4 on PS3 is BEST.

OFFICIAL GTA$ bundle, Sony going to destroy 360. Oh wait, they already have been destroying 360 for the last 3 months and in 2007. hahaha.

[brothersimon]

WAIT B3YOND ps3droids.

ill be 5 minutes ahead of j00 LololOLoLoLoLolOlOLOLoLloOOoLo

must suck to own a ps3, i mean srsly..

[MrBii]

in a non vibrant city with less pedestrians, less cars, shiat AI, cartoony graphics world with framerate and jaggy issues.

Untill you hit your RROD. Then you would be 2 months behind. Stupid beyond.

[tomfoolery]

I look around on this site,and I think to myself........wow,how
unfair it is that there are so many fukin Sony idiots and only a handful
of 360 enthusiast.
If I was a PS3fanscrub..........thank God I'm not,
I would be ashamed to come in here realizing what an unfair dirty
situation this is.

You PS3 fans are the types who would see an unfair fight with one
guy getting his ass beat by 10 guys in the street,and do nothing about it, or join in to help beat up on the 1 innocent defenseless guy.

That's exactly what's going on in here.

POG made a great point,on how there's 3 generations of you
Playstation dweebs who are just angry because you're set in your
ways and refuse to leave your little fantasy Sony world.
This might help explain the multitudes of you cretins in here.

Now that MSs 360 is the better choice for gaming,your absolutely losing your minds.

I find it VERY amusing and beneficial to the 360 in the long run,
because gradually people will take notice to Playstation fans rabid
and agressive nature, and will choose the REAL GAMERS console of choice,the 360.
Not some facade for the Blu Ray movie format.................keep up the good work SDF!

tom

[LiquifiedArt]

To bring 200+ comments on an "INSTALL TIME" i mean you all need to grow up. You are what make the internet the garbage dump it is today.

Installing GAMES is A GOOD THING you buncha FOOLS. I mean seriously. Especially you all you XBOX freaks, Get a CLUE. I mean i seriously think 1/2 of you are acutal payed microsoft employees.

[TheForgotten0ne]

Damn!
With only 5 minutes install time I won't be able to make dinner :cry:

NOOOOOO!
Why!? WHYYY!?