The Evolution of Gran Turismo

a_squirrel - 97 days ago

Can't... pick... up.... jaw...

GT5 looks so real O.o

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ElementX - 97 days ago

GT5 has only 27 tracks

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N4G king - 96 days 23 hours ago

@ ElementX

it got 60 up tell now
and a 20 that has yet to be unveiled

the thing is
GT got 1000 cars
while forza got 400

now that's more than a double

lol

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ElementX - 96 days 23 hours ago

Why are you mentioning Forza? I don't own a 360

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free3sixty - 96 days 22 hours ago

1000 cars and 60 tracks? forza got 100 tracks o_O

And lol @ 1000 cars...

also this is your LAST GT this gen so you must get 1000 cars, hahaha. I mean you already waited 2.5 years while 360 owners jumped in!

But wait until!

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Speak2theHand - 96 days 22 hours ago

While i am looking forward to this game. I just have to reply to numbnuts up there.

@N4G king
And how many of those 1,000 cars are truly going to drive 50-100 maybe. I would much rather have more tracks than more cars. Lets be sensible at put the fanboy stuff aside a minute. Nobody can't say they would rather have more cars than more tracks.

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ElementX - 96 days 22 hours ago

"As for tracks, GT5 will feature 20 distinct raceways, but there will be up to 60 different layouts of them."

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...

So more than 20 if you count "layouts" but what are the "layouts"?

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Utalkin2me - 96 days 22 hours ago

Well it does not have 60 distinct tracks, 20 distinct track that will split into different sections. So basically 1 track is going to count for 3 tracks in a sense.

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rockleex - 96 days 21 hours ago

And they'll say its the cars and the unique realistic handling of each car.

People make fun of Polyphony for including different models of the same type of cars, but fans actually ask Polyphony for more!

Why? Because we want to be able to drive the exact same model of a car that we actually have in real life. We want to try and tune it up as much as we can.

We want to test out other models of the same car to see which model handles better, takes corners better, has the best top speed, etc. This is why the amount of cars matter.

In fact, a lot of my friends were still complaining about GT4, and its crazy amount of cars, for not having the exact year model of a certain car that they wanted!

Gran Turismo and its fans has always been about the little details.

If you're not into all that, then Gran Turismo isn't the series for you. Go check out Forza or Need For Speed.

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LazyDevs - 96 days 21 hours ago

That is fine to mess around with different cars and such. But you always have a few cars that are the bread and butter that you will always use. There is not a single person that will drive even half of those cars. Having great cars and cars that handle great is a must but having alot of tracks with alot of variety is a must also. You can't tell me you wouldnt have been happier with say 40 distinct tracks instead of 20 and say 500 cars.

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rockleex - 96 days 21 hours ago

I'm one of those fans. So I care more about the cars.

Sure, I'm not ever gonna drive all the cars they offer.

But why do you think GT has such a wide audience? Because they offer the most cars. There's cars for everyone, no matter your taste.

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Qazdaz - 96 days 21 hours ago

I have heard a few different interpretations of what PD put up on their website. Another one I read said that there will be 80.I'd wait until we get some hard facts rather than jumping to conclusions

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Greywulf - 96 days 20 hours ago

So with 400 including SUV's and old Pos's, i guess that means you're going to only drive 1/2 right? Whats the glaring double standard that will have Forza3 owners seemingly using all 400 vehicles again?

The track list hasn't been confirmed either, and last time I checked. F2 counted reverse-alternate routes as multiple tracks. NFS shift could have 200 tracks, it wouldn't matter because its not GT. Much like Forza could have unique 100 tracks, it would still be forza & not GT.

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phosphor112 - 96 days 19 hours ago

Anyway, here are my thoughts:

1000 cars? Awesome. I will probably only use 500 AT MOST (throughout the whole life cycle of the game) but different people prefer different cars, so the option of choosing the 500 most favorite cars will differ from person to person. I unlocked over 300 cars on GT4, and I don't even own the game, so that tells you something.

80 tracks so far is cool, I hope they announce more. There are enough WRC, Nascar, and the standard race course to be over 100 courses. *crosses fingers*.

I'm kind of sad damage isn't on all cars, nor do we have any idea how the FINISHED version of the damage will look. Hopefully it will be something worth while, even for only a fraction of the cars. Even then, damage has never been a necessity. It's only to cater to those who want it. If I wan't damage, I would like it like GTR and other PC sims. 1 bump and you are done, of course that will never happen, but oh well.

Also, only fanboys will completely deny Forza or GT over the other. Racing fans will accept both (assuming they have both consoles). That being said, I PREFER GT over Forza. GT has always had this sort of "classy" feel to it that other games simply don't give you. It's this sort of elegance and portrayal of professionalism that makes it so appealing, so far from looking at GT5: Prologue, it seems to be keeping that unique feel, and I'm looking forward to the full release.

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cranium - 96 days 17 hours ago

If you guys would rather have thousands of tracks and only a few cars to drive, then that means that ModNation Racers will be your most anticipated racer of all time, right?

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Sev1512 - 97 days 1 hour ago

Thanks!

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JOLLY1 - 96 days 20 hours ago

That was a very good write up.

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phosphor112 - 96 days 18 hours ago

I was 7 at the time. At first I thought it was the most boring thing I have ever played, but I realized (wow, these cars are so real) because they looked, and sounded so good compared to other games that had "humms" for the engine noises. I still love GT today and I'm looking forward to the next release.

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Rock Bottom - 96 days 22 hours ago

What!

I thought it was bad, basicaly all that was in the article is:
GT1 came out, it was good and sold well.
Then GT2 came out, it was good and sold well.
Then GT3 came out, it was good and sold well.
...

He barely got into details.

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ElementX - 96 days 22 hours ago

I've been such a negative nelly that I wanted to say something positive about PSLS. I didn't know about the Gran Turismo series, I've never played racing games (except occasionally in an arcade)

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jleack - 96 days 22 hours ago

I structured the article around the collage image I made. I decided to write-up a short summary of each game and the series evolution, but please have a look on the evolution image itself on page 2.

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DJ - 96 days 22 hours ago

You should check out Page 2. There's more writing, and a really cool collage of images showing the visual progression of the series.

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Rock Bottom - 96 days 22 hours ago

The images comparison were the high point of the article, but you forgot to mention a lot of things, for example, the addition of B-Spec mode in GT4, which I think played a big role in GT4, especially during endurance races, it was definitely a big step in the series evolution.

I'm not hating or anything, little bit of criticism is never a bad thing, keep up the good work.

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Rock Bottom - 96 days 22 hours ago

yea, that's what I thought too.

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jleack - 96 days 21 hours ago

Over 8 million shipped, but just under 4 million sold (unconfirmed, but I have more than 3 sources).

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Perkel - 96 days 19 hours ago

what ? it's almost 10 milions, Do you think that on shelves there are 5 milion of gt4 coppies ?

here official from polyphony site (in mln.):

GRAN TURISMO 4 (Europe) 6,360 2005/03/09
GRAN TURISMO 4 (North America) 2,970 2005/02/22
GRAN TURISMO 4 (Asia) 170 2004/12/28
2005/03/10**
GRAN TURISMO 4 (Japan) 1,260 2004/12/28

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Perkel - 96 days 19 hours ago

wait for full version to see that. You don't know anything about gt5 beyond demo from gc and few words from Y.

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Gamingisfornerds - 96 days 14 hours ago

Now that you mention it, I haven't seen any official word on this but just from the forums, and it seems it's a little misunderstood. I looked up the original article and it says:

"170 Premium new models (full interior modeling, the interior corresponds to vehicle damage)"

I.E: There's a c0ckpitview in every model, but the premium c0ckpitviews reflect damage within the c0ckpit. Something like that anyway. I'll wait for an official statement on that though.

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Speak2theHand - 96 days 22 hours ago

WTF DOOD!!! If you can not type better than that, then stay off the keyboard. I believe he went into convulsions and his head was banging the keyboard hit random keys.

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DJ - 96 days 22 hours ago

=D

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Ninjamonkey - 96 days 21 hours ago

1) If you reported red2tango and speak2thehand: Well done. Those guys were making fun of someone just becuase english was not his first language. Those guys are douches and need to be reported.

2) if you reported free3sixty: Hes got every right to be annoyed. Two idiots come and start mocking the guy just becuase english is not his first language. People who do that are lower than the dirt on my shoe. if you reported the victim then look at what was written and THINK.

Lets hope the first option applies to you =P

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Total_Retard - 96 days 22 hours ago

without damage and that crap gameplay.. that called sim.. sry its not like need for speed or midnight club....

if you want a sim get gt if you want a wanna be sim get flopza 3

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Utalkin2me - 96 days 22 hours ago

Your name serves you well my son.

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fadic4 - 96 days 22 hours ago

know gt is better then flopza

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Wiimaniac - 96 days 20 hours ago

I think you meant the other way around, that's why you're being called a moron, moron. =/

GT has c0ckpit view in all cars and everything was modeled from their real counterparts since GT5:prologue, that just shows that you're just another liar like Mart. But I understand, when you can't make something look bad you just need to make up lies then.

BTW the playable demo of GT5 only had one playable car so, this it's information tha it's impossible for you to know anyway.

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