American Hardware and Software Chart for Week Ending June 28th, 2008

PoSTedUP - 535 days 2 hours ago

wow the ps3 is slipping... wonder if it has anything to do with the mgs4 80gig ds3 bundle not being in stock? : *

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Breakfast - 535 days 4 hours ago

I only approve it, if it supports my console of choice....and hey....guess what...

....the Wii is dominating again.

:)

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mikeslemonade - 535 days 1 hour ago

MGS4 bundle is out of stock and PS3 will still outsell 360 weekly/monthly worldwide. If you go on Amazon you cannot buy a MGS4 bundle if you wanted to, so that is a legit excuse. Your little 5 million install base lead is coming to a close.

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mikeslemonade - 535 days ago

Take your lame sarcastic remarks somewhere else.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayS...

You cannot buy it and as a matter of fact it's selling for $130 more than msrp.

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LeSouteneur - 534 days 18 hours ago

It should say vgchartz is wrong.

#9 in sales - MGS4
#12 in sales - PS3 40 gig
#53 in sales - Xbox 360 Pro

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

Well, the wait for NPD then!! :)

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wallace1000 - 534 days 16 hours ago

You guys like to bring up Amazon.com all the time. My intention isn't to sling mud here but the US isn't the centre of the world and amazon.com reflects mostly American sales. Even in Canada i can't order the majority of items on Amazon.com if i wanted too because it won't let you. On a Side note, many people like to say vgchartz is crap or biased but that only seems to come from some people when they don't like the numbers they are seeing. Why would vgchartz care which console or piece of software is selling the best?
http://www.vgchartz.com/met...

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Real gamer 4 life - 535 days 4 hours ago

I am going to give you a word of advice. Do not take vgchart seriously. There number are all made up. I don't even know why do people approve this crap. I don't know about metal gear solid being judgment day, but its selling very well. I don't know NA numbers, however i do know that its has been confirm to has sold 1 million in europe already, and 3 million worldwide with kaz himself conforming this.

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plenty a tool - 535 days ago

i'll also give you some advice, only take vgchartz seriously if it paints the ps3 in a good light, or reports that it's OUTSELLING the 360!

otherwise, take with a pinch of salt!

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Jason 360 - 534 days 22 hours ago

Dudes I'm not stupid, I been here long enough to know what VGC is. I do on the other hand like to use VGC for my PS3 burns and jokes.

Seriously though You have to admit, MGS4 hasn't sold as expected. The game is just under 2 million, it sure didn't put up and 4 million in 24hrs like Halo 3 or 6+ million in a week like GTA IV. MGS4 has done about as good as Resistance, which is good but it's no cigar.

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Real gamer 4 life - 534 days 20 hours ago

metal gear solid has been confirmed to have sold one million in europe not shipped. and it sold 3 million worldwide not shipped as kaz himself confirmed it. Please show me a link that states that metal gear only sold under 2 million as you said.

here proof that metal gear solid sold 1 million in europe and 3 million world wide.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

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wallace1000 - 534 days 14 hours ago

Battlefield does seem to be doing very well. I am hoping that i will have my hands on that game in a few days. It looks like a lot of fun!

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power of Green - 535 days 3 hours ago

LOL at the dissagree this is not being posted by 360 fans(VGC used as an fanboy tool using numbers as propaganda) either because most of us do not invest stock in VG-Charts. Who's to say VGC has ever accurately tracked numbers for any of the consoles in any given week sence the generation started?.

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power of Green - 535 days 2 hours ago

LOL Only if that reasoning worked for 360 fans when we seen something we dissliked(around 3 years ago). lol

*Who cares go earn this and go do that* lol.

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mikeslemonade - 535 days 1 hour ago

Enjoy your 2 week win because 360 will be in 3rd place by 2009 it's inevitable.

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Rekyyli - 535 days ago

Well first it was 2007. Then fanbois were deadly serious that it would be 2008. And now it´s 2009.

Gotta just love it.

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mikeslemonade - 534 days 22 hours ago

I can assure you I never said 2007 or 2008. That's other people do not include me. Just with common sense the PS3 will have a larger install base by late 2009. It's envitable especially when european and japanese centric games release like Killzone 2 and Final Fantasy XIII.

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karlostomy - 534 days 22 hours ago

You have got to stop deluding yourself man.

The way it's going, worldwide, using the steady trend that the PS3 has established in the last 6 months, the ps3 *might just* catchup by 2012.

2012. my friend.

Oh and when I am proven right and you are proven wrong (next year) feel free to send me a PM congratulating me. :)

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mikeslemonade - 534 days 21 hours ago

That logic your using only works when a console has hit its prime like the 360. The 360 is older and basically the great exclusive franchises have already hit the 360 and they all will hit by the end of this year included.

Your theory doesn't apply to the PS3. The PS3 is a wildcard and it shows your ignorance ignore that the PS3 is just getting started. How can you say it's a steady trend when the PS3 was getting outsold 2 to 1 this time last year in the U.S. to actually consistently outselling 360 this year. The PS3 at a tech standpoint is progressively getting better ever since launch since Resistance to MGS4 every game has in general looked better than game before. With 360 the best looking game is still Gears of War. This tells me that 360 has already reached its prime and anything coming out for the 360 this year will not convince the mass market casual audience to buy a 360.

In fact if anything going by your logic actually works against you because by this time next year the PS3 will be selling twice as many systems as the 360.

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karlostomy - 534 days 20 hours ago

but in the last 6 months it has been quite quite linear.

I have to emphasize that I am using real world numbers and analysis of sales data, while you need to use *wildcard* speculation.

DOes that strike you as a bit odd on your behalf?

Don't forget my congratulatory PM next year ok?

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mikeslemonade - 534 days 19 hours ago

The "wildcard" is just another term for things that are coming for the PS3. Where as most of the great things have already happened for the 360. It was those trend changing things that happened like Blu-ray winning, price drops, 1st party exclusives that increased the sales. So are you really going to deny that Sony will have basically nothing coming out. Are you really going to deny that Gran Turismo 5 and FFXIII aren't going to sell systems? Historically both those franchises sell more than MGS.

The 360's actions in this year are more conservative. You have Too Human coming out next year but people already bought the 360 when mass effect came out since the two games are too similiar. Fable 2 fans already bought the 360 when Oblivion came out. Left 4 Dead just another mediocre looking FPS game. Gears 2 fans bought the 360 when Gears 1 came out.

The PS3 on the otherhand Socom the best selling online game from PS2 is coming out. Little Big Planet there is no game like this, so it's going to attract a different type of audience not yet found on the PS3 yet. White Knight Story, there is no RPGs on the PS3 yet so there is another audience coming to the PS3.

"but in the last 6 months it has been quite quite linear."
Once again that logic doesn't work especially when you talk about system that hasn't even reached its prime. And 12 months ago PS3 sales were less than half of what it was now. Why don't you wait 6 more months and see what happens. Your logic doesn't take into the account that the month of June PS3 sales will be higher than the July sales based on MGS4. Your just assuming sales will be the same through out the whole PS3 life. You can't just use "trends" in gaming because historically the #1 system could be third place the next generation proven by Nintendo. And Nintendo DS perfect example the DS was getting outsold by PSP early on but then exploded by "wildcard" game chaning decisions and actions like the Nintendogs and Brain Age game.

And I can play the same game as you and say the 360 sales are gradually decreasing. In 2007 you had Halo 3, Bioshock, and Mass Effect and yet the PS3 still outsold the 360 in 2007. This year the sales are even lower despite having those "great" games. And then going by that "trend" the 360 will never surpass 40 million units this generation.

And sorry even if you are right I can't pm when your account gets suspended and then you will create another name. So please message me when you make your 2nd or 3rd name.

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karlostomy - 534 days 17 hours ago

I can see you are very passionate and hopeful on this topic.

I won't say any more, because I think you are not seeing the 'woods for the trees'. It is common here on n4g, i know.

With regard to the PM, suffice to say, my account won't be suspended, nor will i get a new name, nor will my avatar change.
I will still be here... same as before.
Can you say the same Mike?

You might as well start on my congratulatory PM now, huh?

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scissor_runner - 534 days 14 hours ago

To me it the PS3 with the spent load which was really only two big titles MGS4 and FF13. Every thing else is just potential alone in the dark games. Square just announced huge support for the 360 and I never though I would see such a thing. Little big planet has no point and put it in front of core platforming fans and MM9 will likely crush it. Just because companies are not bragging does not mean they have nothing in store. After all the hype that became fizzle this year I would be weary of hype of the future. What is also funny is most of the stuff you said about the xbox can be said for the PS3. The only people who care are the current owners. This is the case with all systems. If RROD is fixed or a xbox slim does come out then that could be a problem for the PS3 as currently people are switching to the PS3 because of a broken xbox 360. I mean white knight is going to draw a RPG crowded? If you are a fan of RPGs maybe you could make this judgment. Simply existing does not mean people care.

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The gaming GOD - 535 days 1 hour ago

Whether they are "winning" Vgchartz numbers or not, Vgchartz is STILL inaccurate.

On a side note, who cares about "winning" when you know the stat provider is BS?

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Jenzo - 535 days ago

How come you write just like Bladestar?

...............

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The gaming GOD - 535 days ago

I sure as hell hope I don't.

Kinda insulting

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Testo - 534 days 18 hours ago

Sven Benoit writes... just... like... Bladestar...

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The gaming GOD - 535 days 1 hour ago

They make you sick. Now why don't you ask someone if they care

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LeSouteneur - 534 days 18 hours ago

That-a way---->

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Seraphemz - 534 days 14 hours ago

Obviously you dont, or can't afford to, have a PS3. What I find funny is that people are still putting money on a defective product just because it costs less. MGS4 did great in sales and i think that it will continue to do well when the bundles get back in the market.

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ruibing - 535 days 4 hours ago

The only thing going against the PS3 right now is the anticipation of 80GB MGS4 PS3 being restocked. If I didn't have one already, I would definitely wait until they become available before buying a PS3 for MGS4.

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PoSTedUP - 535 days 2 hours ago

...its not in stock right now : P

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Obama - 535 days 2 hours ago

Bots like vgcharts now? Wait for NDP, in which ps3 will kick 360's bum.

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morganfell - 535 days 1 hour ago

Well lets see mr lemming. Sony beat MS last month and they have outsold them in the US and worldwide this year overall. If you are crazy enough to believe VGChartz that is going to be your problem. Then again the desperate will do anything.

VGChartz has put the 360 ahead of the PS3 in sales every week during June. I want you to be around when the NPD figures come out and we see how inaccurate VGChartz is...again. I and everyone else here on this forum are going to be all over you. I hope you bring an appetite because humble pie can be hard to swallow.

Think about it. Over 3 million in sales for MGS4 last month and the 360 has no real big exclusive games out other than NGII - which isn't a system seller - and yet the 360 is supposed to lead the PS3 that month in sales? No.

I don't know who to laugh at more, VGChartz for their ridiculous made up figures or you for believing them

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power of Green - 535 days 1 hour ago

MSFt is going to drop bombs the rest of the year.

http://n4g.com/xbox360/News...

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morganfell - 535 days 1 hour ago

Sony's farther along than that already. And that 'bomb' is vaporware right now. It might as well be a fart in a whirlwind. Sixaxis didn't matter and that won't either.

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ruibing - 535 days 4 hours ago

Well, the key to that is according to Vgchartz. Their software numbers are usually off until they adjust it. Many PSP titles have become best hits, while they are still tracked lower than 200k.

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The gaming GOD - 535 days 4 hours ago

Vgchartz almost never fixes their numbers. When they are proven wrong, they are known to just leave their stats just the way they are.

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Cyrus365 - 535 days 4 hours ago

Isn't that better, so you can see when they are wrong, rather than them patching up their work?

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Xbox is the BEST - 535 days 4 hours ago

don't go by VG Chartz but plenty Droids do. That's why "according" is in my post

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morganfell - 535 days 1 hour ago

What he means is when they do their 'estimate' of the forthcoming NPD figures it sometimes doesn't match their supposedly accurate estimates from prior weeks in the least.

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DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl - 535 days ago

to vg chartz the only 360 game in the top 10 is broken? WOW! thats 221,508 people that can't connect to play online

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morganfell - 535 days 1 hour ago

What confuses me is there is anyone naive enough to think VGChartz have a shred of respectability. They have all the accuracy of a Daisy Air rifle.

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mikeslemonade - 535 days ago

Your confused cause your too stupid to see past this year. 360 has no system sellers and the only thing working for them is the cheaper price they have now.

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