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Gran Turismo 5, King of all Driving Sims

PlayStation LifeStyle writes, "The votes are in! The good news is Gran Turismo still holds the crown for best driving simulator on the market. Recently media conglomerate CNET did a readers poll which pitted the driving jauggarnaut, GT5 vs. the 'Johnny come lately' Forza Motorsport 3."
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Published: 198 days 18 hours ago | News | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360
 
 

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DJ - 198 days 18 hours ago
1 - Wow, shocker of the week.
Turn 10's attempts to sway the results failed AND blew up in their face.
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CaseyRyback_CPO - 198 days 18 hours ago
1.1 - Yeah, once the GT community got wind of this.. it was pretty much a wrap.
I bet the results would have been more realistic with CNETs readership if pathetic Turn10 didn't decide to bribe people to vote for their "definitive" game. Most of the votes surely came from gtplanet alone lol.
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DoucheVader - 198 days 18 hours ago
1.2 - 100% Agreed...
I think everyone agrees this was a low move.

I wonder what the meeting was like that morning over at the Forza community offices....

Community Manager: Hey CNet is doing a GT5 vs. Forza 3 poll. Lets rig the vote by giving away free DLC!

Loyal Xbots: BRILLIANT!!!!
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MNicholas - 198 days 17 hours ago
1.3 - To be honest
until we see both games in action there's no way to know which will be a better overall game. Obviously GT5 looks better and has the potential for better physics and to be a better sim (due to the vastly more powerful CPU) but final judgement will have to wait.

Cnet articles are usually written by a bunch of idiots so I can't say I take the word of people who live by those articles too seriously. Having said that, Turn10 has a very long way to go if they want to back up their statements about their competition. They've already fallen short in visuals. Hopefully the physics are less wrong than in Forza 2 and the tracks not artificially altered to compensate for the poor physics.
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Ju - 198 days 17 hours ago
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ha ha ha! That backfired...a bit. LOL.
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WonderboyIII - 198 days 17 hours ago
1.5 - NO!
My Pen is the largest!!!!
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AclayPS3 - 198 days 17 hours ago
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I think Turn 10 is just trying to hype up their game with all the talk they've been doing lately. They really need to learn some respect though, because Gran Turismo is like a Legend in the gaming industry, regardless of what Turn 10 thinks of the franchise.

Honestly I just think Turn 10 is envious of Polyphony Digital's immense success with GT on Playstation. I'm sure Forza is great and all, but GT still holds the crown when it comes to status and pure Simulation Racing.

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue ( a glorified demo) alone has sold almost as much as Forza 2 has ever sold. I can't wait until GT5 finally drops so the game can finally shut those Turn 10 devs. up
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Darkeyes - 198 days 17 hours ago
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lol... That is what happens when you mess up with a 50 million franchise. I mean even the GT5 demo nearly outsold Forza 2... and it was a DEMO!!!!It was jus that M$ started bundling up the game and so the game barely scraped passed it.

I remember seeing the voting at 70% in Forza favor... and then suddenly yesterday GT beat the crap out of it. And what makes the victory even sweeter is the fact that Forza tried to rig the poll but failed.

I wouldn't have taken a jab at Forza if the devs would have STFU and minded their own business. But the last few posts by that ridiculous jerk were pathetic. And the 'Bribing people to give votes' was so desperate. I just want PD to show a few damage videos in 1080P and kick the balls out of Forza.
Go 360 fanboys.. Go and customize your cars while we play a 1080P 60FPS game with 2X cars on road and 2X cars available.
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Thugbot187 - 198 days 17 hours ago
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When did a poll of two games before they are released start deciding the quality of the game, CNet and its poor journalism adding to fanboy drama. Silly for Turn 10 to take part in this agreed.
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eagle21 - 198 days 17 hours ago
1.9 - Gran Turismo is in a class of it's own.... :)
I think everyone is aware of this but some are just trying to find an exclusive on 360 this fall that isn't DLC so the fear kicks in. Again, I really find it funny that forza 3 lost in Xplays racing category E3 2009 Awards. Turn-10 must have missed that...lol

Xplay knows it's nothing special. :)
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hulk_bash1987 - 198 days 17 hours ago
1.10 -
Bribing the masses to sway the voters, lol. This has officially gotten out of hand. Good job Turn 10.
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decimalator - 198 days 17 hours ago
1.11 -
Big surprise. Probably not a good idea.
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CaseyRyback_CPO - 198 days 17 hours ago
1.12 - lol - and its only 8 cars while racing.
Only 8 cars Racing at a time
2 discs...
only 400 cars.
Not 1080p
Cokkpit View is 30fps

this just keeps getting better, because if thats definitive, whats GT5?

edit @ Immortal Kim,

Makes you wonder why Turn10 would bribe their own community when both games aren't out huh?
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Immortal Kaim - 198 days 17 hours ago
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Both games aren't even out yet...nice headline :)
1.14 MGSR THE HD VERSION | 198 days 16 hours ago - deleted by mod -
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SnukaTheMan - 198 days 16 hours ago
1.15 - hahahahahahaha
there is a unicorn car.....what horseshit.
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el zorro - 198 days 16 hours ago
1.16 -
Which is it PS3 fans? First we had swarms of PS3 fans up in arms in the other article saying how you can't have a poll asking people which game they think is better until the games are out, and now that the poll swung in your favor you guys are only two happy to accept the results of the poll as legitimate and crown GT the best driving sim. Talk about a bunch of hypocrites. Well, at least you guys are living up to your name.
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MGSR THE HD VERSION - 198 days 16 hours ago
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also one more thing, at around august microsft's going to flood xbl with lots of forza banner adds.....ok, that's in about 3 months from now, do you think that any xbot that DOES reads this is going to keep this sh!t going back and forth in their heads for 3 months? (deciding which game is the definitive racing game)

................it's even harder for those to get gt especially if they don't have a ps3.

and btw.........halo is the definitive fps, the number say so, the graphics of all other fps's don't mean sh!t to an xbot. play a round of halo3 online and tell me why so many care so little about graphics in that game.
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R3D - 198 days 16 hours ago
1.18 -
"Editor's note: After numerous complaints of cheating and in-game content being offered as payment for votes, I've decided to close the poll. Way to ruin the fun for the rest of us, guys."

LMAO! Priceless.
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ApocalyPS3 - 198 days 16 hours ago
1.19 - DJ
you sony only guys are taking this way outta proportion. they said definite racing game this gen...

...but NONE of you are quick to defend any other racer out there. it doesn't bother you that the list includes MANY titles. if this were about Grid, you'd just blow it off.

no, you guys just want to put GT as THE ONLY game that turn 10 is inferring. i can see how it's between EXCLUSIVE racers, but you guys are way too serious over this whole thing. turn 10 never called out anyone or any game in particular. they're NOT competing with GT. GT IS NOT on Xbox 360. PGR 4, GRID, the NFS series THOSE games are.

gosh people.
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Information Minister - 198 days 15 hours ago
1.20 - @ 1.19
It weren't the "sony only guys" that took this "way outta proportion". It was turn 10 themselves, when they started bashing GT (and ONLY GT) for no good reason. Not GRID, not NFS, not PGR, JUST GT!
So as you see, GT IS THE ONLY game that turn 10 is inferring.

"Turn 10 never called out anyone or any game in particular"? Have you been living under a rock?
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potenquatro - 198 days 14 hours ago
1.21 -
@1.19
I get what you're saying. But Turn10 has being talking too much thou. imo.
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PopEmUp - 198 days 14 hours ago
1.22 - Hmm Turn 10 would like to say something
"Forza 3 is the definitive racer this generation!!! Forza 3 is the definitive racer this generation!!! Forza 3 is the definitive racer this generation!!! Forza 3 is the definitive racer this generation!!! Forza 3 is the definitive racer this generation!!! Forza 3 is the definitive racer this generation!!! Forza 3 is the definitive racer this generation!!! Forza 3 is the definitive racer this generation!!"
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R3D - 198 days 13 hours ago
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LOL! I hope I really do that was all sarcasm Megatron08.

GT5 should have a rainbow Murciélago with a horn on its hood to capture this epic moment in time lmao
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JohnnyBadfinger - 198 days 13 hours ago
1.25 - Turn 10 need to shut it
Saying your game (Forza 3) iis better then GT is just stupid. Its not gunna make then game sell, it just opens it up for criticism, and the hype just leads to a let down. It happend to Killzone 2 (sorry Sony fans, but it true) and Halo 3 (sorry Xbox fans, but it true), when both games shipped alot of people could not help but be disappointed with the finished result, both claimed to be the defining games of this Generation but ultimately lead to broken promises and a not as good as could have been scenarios.

I think Turn 10 is setting them selves up for the same deal, while PD are keeping quite and hidden out of site to just let the gamers anticipation built and not the medias.

GT #1 (wins comfortably)
Forza #2 (but not far behind)

And Im a XBOX 360 owner and i can admit that GT is better than Forza, so why can't the PS3 fans admit the Xbox has awsome games?

I know why... but saying it will get me in trouble and banned again.
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Syronicus - 198 days 12 hours ago
1.26 - It wasn't just the GT community that got wind of this and voted...
It was Forza fans showing their distaste in a community manager that bribes folks and makes an arse of themselves to get attention. Not once did you ever hear Polyphony Digital come out and try to defend their racer or talk smack, because they know what they have and how successful it has been over the years. Why Turn 10 decided to go down this road is beyond me. I had all respect for their game but have to admit, I lost a little just because of that idiot that talked smack way too much lately.
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vhero - 198 days 12 hours ago
1.27 -
Even when offering a free gift they cant win?? how much proof do we need which games better before they have even been released?
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commodore64 - 198 days 11 hours ago
1.28 - Wow looks like the playstationlifestyle.net damage control worked!
The Sony defence force activated in record time, to save face.

Nothing like a bit of viral twittering to bring the Ps3 fanboys a-running. Thanks a million to playstationlifestyle.net

An exemplary case of PS3 brand loyalty coming to the rescue.

A bit sad, imo.
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Shadow Flare - 198 days 10 hours ago
1.29 - @1.19
Do you think GRID is the definitive racing game this generation? Gran Turismo is the most successful and critically acclaimed driving simulator in the world. Trust me, turn 10 were talking about gran turismo
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arika - 198 days 9 hours ago
1.30 -
if you want realistic racing simulation that is almost close to perfection as possible then go for GT5

if you want an off the wall off road racer and exotic places go for MOTORSTORM 1&2

if you want a better alternative to mario cart with an additional create and share feature you can't go wrong with MODNATION RACER

if you want the best futuristic racing game go for WIPEOUT HD

and if you want a second rate trying hard copy cat well, go for FORZA 3. LOL! sad but true...
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Syronicus - 198 days 9 hours ago
1.31 - @ commodore64
I have to ask the question:

Why is brand loyalty a bad thing? Polyphony Digital has spent years developing great games to earn that loyalty and now that the peoples vote has swayed in the direction of the larger more well known franchise, brand loyalty is a bad thing? Come on, where's the common sense in that? Wasn't it brand loyalty that encouraged the Forza 3 folks to vote for their favorite franchise? It would seem so...
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JHUX - 198 days 6 hours ago
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El zorro, fanboys are all hypocrites, and there aren't that many fanboy posts in here anyway (I havent read all comments keep in mind).... Notice how 360 fanboys were using this poll to declare forza the king of racers "taking the crown from the GT series", well now that tables turned in one day (especially since forza devs tried bribing there fans to vote rofl), now 360 fans are saying "Well you cant make a decision til' the games out". Whose the hypocrite again? See how easy it was for me to do that? lol.... Besides I dont think many sony fans are even using this as proof of it being better, there mainly rubbing it into turn 10 (which they deserve it), for trying to rig a poll and still lose.
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bnaked - 198 days 6 hours ago
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Thats nothing else than a PS3 vs 360 poll.. crap
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Ausbo - 198 days 5 hours ago
1.34 - i will tell you why so many people care
because the ps3 fanboys swarm the internet while the xbox gamers play their games on their xbox rather than vote in polls on the web, and that is the reason why every article on this site is ps3 ftw or xbox sucks.
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MGSR THE HD VERSION - 198 days 5 hours ago
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selling more, that's ware it counts....not in the f#cking polls.

ms is going to market sh1t out of forza, it's what ms does, it's what the workers of both ms and turn 10 are payed to do.
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edgeofblade - 198 days 4 hours ago
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So? It's still no more valid than it was before. It's a fracking internet poll. No validity regardless of who is skewing or not skewing the results.
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thesummerofgeorge - 198 days 2 hours ago
1.37 - @edgeofblade
What you just said, makes ZERO sense. Individuals voted, although many on the Forza side weren't honest votes as they were bribing people, but the fact that GT5 still won isn't invalid. You think that no internet polls are valid? Explain. Or are you just bitter and grasping at straws cause you're a major fanboy? Individuals voted for their preferred game, other than the bribing on the Forza side, what's invalid about my vote for GT5? Or your vote for Forza (assuming you aren't voting for the bribe as well).
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ExgamerLegends - 198 days 2 hours ago
1.38 - Still arguing this eh? Oh well why not.
I guess we can look at it from a technical standpoint.

Both forza and Gran turismo are supposed to be racing simulators, no?
You judge a racing sim based on how realistic it is. The more realistic the better, yes?
By more realistic I don't only mean the cars react the same way they do in real life but they look the same as the would in real life. Thats a graphics thing in case you're wondering.
So the better simulator should have the better graphics and the better physics. That would be Gran Turismo.
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StalkingSilence - 198 days 1 hour ago
1.39 - anyone see the editor's note?
From the Article:
"Editor’s note: After numerous complaints of cheating and in-game content being offered as payment for votes, I’ve decided to close the poll. Way to ruin the fun for the rest of us, guys."
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rockleex - 198 days ago
1.40 - So before GT won the poll...
Everybody had been saying from the beginning that its an internet poll about two games that haven't even been released yet, so its not valid. So people were pointing out that bribing to win an invalid poll is just stupid.

But 360 fans were saying its "not really bribing" so the poll's still valid.

Now that GT won the poll, 360 fans suddenly agree with the rest of us that the poll was invalid to begin with. All the while the PS3 fans are just laughing at how Turn 10 bribed to win an invalid poll, but still ended up losing!!

Its the equivalent of using steroids to win a regular football match at the park... but still end up losing. O_o

The funniest thing to me is that Cnet decided to close the poll after GT started beating Forza again. I guess they didn't want to see GT pull too far ahead. :P
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Sarcasm - 198 days ago
1.41 -
"no, you guys just want to put GT as THE ONLY game that turn 10 is inferring"

huh? Turn 10 is the one who keeps saying GT this GT that. So who's fault is it?

Turn 10 downplays GT, what? We're going to defend Grid?
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mebob - 197 days 19 hours ago
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Not very surprising, i mean the GT series sold over 20miilion+ copies? so its not surprising to see it pull ahead of forza3. i will admit that GT is a better driving sim then most console racing games. But PC racing games take the cake for realistic handling and physics. (although the graphics are no were as good as the new GT, prob due to budget and stuff not the PC it self.)
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xhi4 - 198 days 18 hours ago
2 - LOL
mate Forza 3 got nothing on GT 5

Forza 3, no doubt a great game, but come on, next to GT5....really?
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Harri4444 - 198 days 17 hours ago
2.1 - Very true
I can't understand how Turn 10 can push out three games while Polyphony digital has been focusing on GT5 the whole time and still have the guts to say that they are running out of improvements. sorry Turn 10 but GT5>F3, and that's never going to change.
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swiftshot93 - 198 days 17 hours ago
2.2 - Polyphony worked on GT PSP too
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Harri4444 - 198 days 17 hours ago
2.3 -
yeah i but that's more of a side project...
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Omegasyde - 198 days 16 hours ago
2.4 -
GT5 will probally be the last racing game I buy until the next generation of consoles.

I mean come-on, NASCAR + RALLY + Exotic Races?

You can't compete, I am wondering how the hell hey are going to fit this game on 1 blu-ray disc.

Sidenote: Online Polls are stupid, and no one should consider it a definite true sampling. Gran tourismo is still the $#%$@% and my favorite Sony Franchise.
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da720izcumin - 197 days 19 hours ago
2.5 - wow
this game is not even out yet....
how would you or anyone else know that it is the king of all driving sims?
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lloyd_wonder - 198 days 18 hours ago
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Hahaha. FAIL

Let's see Forza 3 sell some copies now...
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