Killzone 2 gets mixed up with Crysis in the Cryzone

Lich120 - 310 days 1 hour ago

Thats debatable since Im assuming you've never played Killzone 2 all the way through. Killzone 2 is set up linearly with a lot of scripted events. Which are very well done so it does add to the Immersion as you say. Crysis on the other hand had next to no scripted events as I remember playing through it. Its really just a different style of gaming. Keep in mind Im not knocking KZ because I played the beta and loved it, but Im not sure Im prepared to say it out does crysis.

Also, crysis didn't have death animations. The bodies just reacted to the physics of the killing blow. This has its ups and downs as some of the things the helghast do when you kill them are very cool.

Edit: Again with the disagrees... let me know what you guys are thinking, Im curious.

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SL1M DADDY - 310 days ago

There are many here that would be considered by us gamers as fanboys that simply toss out a disagree or two with no reason behind them. You get that a lot here. It's just a common practice amongst users here.

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Lich120 - 309 days 23 hours ago

Haha, fair enough Slim.

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DeadlyFire - 309 days 21 hours ago

Crysis and CryEngine 2 are far better looking than KILLZONE 2. As far as the experience goes that is left up to the developer and the player. KILLZONE 2's engine might have a few added effects, but CryEngine 2 still tops all with graphics. This mod is a wip as well. Not done yet you know.

This concrete.
http://www.crymod.com/uploa...
Doesn't look better than this?
http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...
http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...

Fact is that the PS3 uses Open GL 2.x which is roughly equated to DirectX 9.5 or so. Open GL is always a step behind DirectX. Run Crysis on DirectX 10 with everything maxed out and look around. Might be a bit laggy with bad frames, but its amazing to look at. There is a slight edge to the graphics that CryEngine 2 holds over KILLZONE 2.

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thor - 309 days 21 hours ago

DeadlyFire you're right that Crysis looks better than Killzone 2 but the ONLY reson that's the case is because PCs have a lot more graphics processing power and memory and so can handle higher resolution textures/more particles/more antialiasing.

It's NOTHING to do with OpenGL vs directX. Killzone 2 uses its own proprietry graphics API, bypassing OpenGL altogether (I forget where I read that but I think it was on one of the "ask the dev" threads).

So yeah, Killzone 2 adds a few effects, and THAT'S what counts, because aside from added effects, Crysis can look as good as you want it to look because with a good enough rig you can increase the poly count and texture resolution as much as you like.

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TheIneffableBob - 309 days 21 hours ago

This is a user-created mod, not a game with a $40 million budget.

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Avto - 309 days 20 hours ago

What do you guys mean when you say looks better what do you mean? for me Killzone looks better. Looks better is not the same as it has better graphics, GOWII looks better than 95% of PS3/X360 games but from the technical point of view, new games are better. You see looks(graphics) can be divided into
1)purely technical aspect this is to say technology, texture resolution, shadows and stuff like this.
2)art direction and design this one is usually very subjective, some like purple aliens in Halo others don't
3)execution this is how well the game runs in the end and on what hardware PC version of GTAIV fails miserable at this
So, Crysis has Killzone 2 mostly beat in the first aspect this is what we can say for sure and it loses on the third aspect, as a PC to run Crysis at good enough graphics settings has a far superior GPU and many times more RAM than PS3. The second aspect is up to you.

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Powertesties - 309 days 20 hours ago

I completely forgot how awesome the CRY engine is. That video looks amazing. Too bad Killzone doesn't look that good.

I may have to install Crysis again.

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zlatko - 309 days 20 hours ago

I get this is pre-alpha that they are working with, but I honestly doubt no matter how much effort you put in trying to use the Crysis engine to make the 2005 trailer you will just fail by a long shot.

Killzone 2's Engine is vastly superior for an adrenline rush FPS full of set pieces that stand out. Crysis is more of a open world FPS like Far Cry if I'm not mistaken. Killzone 2 is more linear in it's campaign approach so they CAN make the eye candy stick out. In Crysis you have to go looking for it, but I can just walk around in Killzone and it's all around me.

Both try to make their games look amazing, but they use their graphics engine in completely different ways. Whoever made this needs to just shut his project down. You are wasting your own time.

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kingOVsticks - 309 days 17 hours ago

I agree the death animations in crysis suck, the killzone 2 animations are amazing in comparison. But the explosions and nature elements in crysis damn near blow killzone 2 out the water. Both are graphical bench marks to say the least.

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GrandTheftStreetcar - 309 days 16 hours ago

Check the light from the rifle muzzle in the video:

there is no effect on the rifle itself. There is in Killzone.

Also, lighting effects/animation when firing the rifle looks pretty bad in this video.

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gaffyh - 309 days 16 hours ago

I'm not going be a fanboy and say that this mod does not look good. It looks great, and environment-wise it is spot on with KZ2 environments. But Killzone 2 looks better than this.

Firstly the particle effects in this mod are not that great, there's just smoke everywhere, stationary, it's KZ2 not Turok!

Secondly the helghast models are too thin, they don't look as epic.

Thirdly, the reaction to the bullets is not as good in Crysis, in fact F.E.A.R. had better ragdoll physics for this in some ways.

Fourthly a few aesthetic problems, not enough blood, gun is too thin (obviously it hasn't been changed yet), also it doesn't look right because the gun isn't on the side, it's kinda centered.

Anyway it still is a very good mod, anyone that can do something like this deserves a lot of credit.

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herbaldoctor7 - 310 days 2 hours ago

i cant wait, it feels like christmas 27th of feb

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Daz - 310 days ago

hsi done well for a mod/map. its all about getting it right and there alot possible with crysis if your good enought.

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FantasyStar - 310 days 1 hour ago

KZ2 is pretty "grey". like brown-grey, red-grey, black-grey,blue-grey. Just GREY. KZ2 still rocks though. You sounded "offended" in your post. Did the video push some wrong buttons?

It's just a mod, chill out. Did you know that the original modder is doing this mod because he respects both companies and wants a challenge? He's not doing it to spite fanboys.

http://www.crymod.com/threa...
http://www.crymod.com/threa...

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LinuxGuru - 310 days 1 hour ago

I'm not offended, it's just that the depiction there is totally off, even for a mod it's just not good.

It's just a custom map with slowed down effects and changed color...ooh how special lol

Also, whoever recorded that left motion blur off, and the thing is, Killzone 2 and Crysis on very high have motion and object blur.

I know it's a work in progress, but it's got a while to go to achieve any kind of resemblance.

Greying out the color and slowing down the effects are simple cvar commands. Also, most PC game engines are very versatile by nature, due to their need to be scaled across a wide variety of hardware, so saying CryEngine 2 is versatile isn't saying much, honestly =\

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FantasyStar - 310 days 1 hour ago

Good enough for me. Just FYI, that's considered "Pre-Alpha" footage. I'm impressed just because of the versatility of the CryEngine 2.

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Lich120 - 310 days 1 hour ago

What killzone did do is a lot of toning (adding gray to color). That in no way is a knock either because personally I like that art style. An example of a game with very little toning is Halo where everything is vibrant which looks good in its own right.

I do think you're being a little hard on a guy who is modding in his free time out of respect for both companies. I thought it was neat and certainly an interesting task.

Edit: Man, a disagree within 5 minutes of posting... Im curious what portion of my post someone found wrong. If you're reading, Id like to know.

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Microsoft Xbox 360 - 310 days 1 hour ago

Other than the video having no resemblance to the K2 2005 trailer, what is wrong with the submission itself? I don't know.

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FantasyStar - 310 days 1 hour ago

I guess they never heard of the saying "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".

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Timesplitter14 - 309 days 23 hours ago

I'm pretty sure you haven't played Crysis on maximum settings with a good framerate. I can't even imagine how it would be possible to make a forest look better than that

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theox2g7 - 309 days 22 hours ago

That the violence laws in Germany prohibit Crytek from applying the appropriate realistic physics to dying bodies or corpses, Even most of the ragdoll mods were shut down, There is absolutely no ragdoll physics in Crysis, Even dead bodies stay static, So you can't really blame them,

Also you have to remember that this is an unprofessional mod from an amateur and he just got started on the mod, So it's not going to look even close to good

The engine is clearly capable of doing the mocap physics impact death kills, It was just a huge legal constraint that Crytek had when making the game, Even then, I'd say for the scale of the game, it's very respectable for the visuals and physics it pulls off, Don't you guys cut Resistance some slack for its sometimes drab visuals since it has a very impressive scale? I'd bet if Crysis was more linear with maps the size of Killzone 2, it'd look a ton better with more advanced effects

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FantasyStar - 309 days 21 hours ago

Ya I remember that law. It was almost to the point that would force Crytek to leave Germany.

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kazan - 309 days 17 hours ago

Thank you for the info, didn’t know they have these kind for laws in Germany, However i’m gona to have to disagree with you about the Crysis engine, the only advantage the game has over KZ2 is the graphic, sorry BUT in terms of gameplay, environment atmosphere, and physics it is not even close to KZ2, for example look at the animation in (Crysis) when taking cover, the firing, changing weapons, reloading and the rocket launcher , in my own opinion KZ2 surpass Crysis .

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cbhamblin - 309 days 10 hours ago

The game play in crysis is not linear like killzone 2, my pc would run this grey and brown low texture turd at 80 frames a second easily, get your facts straight. You fanboys are way to hyped up on a 6 hr game that brings nothing new to the table. Crysis has multiple ways to accomplish missions, you can go anywhere you see on the level, up mountains , swim, ect. You can play stealth or balls out. While killzone is staight run gun in a brown and grey setting, with little room to explore, there is a reason Crysis is one of the best games ever, it innovated,and killzone is a brown grey rust zone which is much easier to do than a tropical island with sunsets, snow, waterfalls that have rainbows, wildlife, ect. Please give me some of the dope you are on, I'm from Northern California and even we do not get stuff that makes you lose your mind like whatever you are on that makes you say these comments.Oh and crysis is like almost 2 years old.

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zagibu - 309 days 17 hours ago

Why should they be flattered? They are the ones doing the comparison...

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GarandShooter - 309 days 16 hours ago

Aw, zagibu, are you in the Cryzone?

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evrfighter - 309 days 15 hours ago

didn't theo just explain this a couple posts up?

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TheIneffableBob - 309 days 20 hours ago

This was made by a modder, not Crytek, though I'm sure the modder would be very flattered by your comment.

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cmrbe - 310 days 1 hour ago

Particle effects and disructibility are just amazing in KZ2.

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