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Dyack: EVE's better than WoW

Speaking to VG247 in London recently, Silicon Knights boss Denis Dyack said that, in his opinion, EVE Online's better than World of Warcraft. It's an RPG developer MMO face-off, kids.
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Published: 485 days ago | News | PC
 
 

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1 CViper | 485 days 5 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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QQcrybaby - 485 days ago
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agreed. and n4g stop posting articles about what he says.
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Old Snake - 484 days 23 hours ago
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Seriously, this guy just can't take the fact that his game didn't appeal to everyone
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xhairs9 - 484 days 22 hours ago
1.3 - Agreed
I'm starting to think he works for gamesdaily with his stupidity and now he's just lashing out at everyone just like the guy who reviewed Metal Gear Solid 4 did. He's just rebelling, I guess he didn't do it enough during his teenage years.
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bumnut - 484 days 15 hours ago
1.4 - relax guys
its just his opinion, its ok to disagree with it
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Idonthatejustcreate - 484 days 15 hours ago
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Is strange how almost 90% of people always disagrees with what Denis says...

Either he has absolutly the worst taste ever or he has become the village idiot which everyone mocks without reason.
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The Lazy One - 484 days 6 hours ago
1.6 - omfg...
Did you guys actually read what he said? He said he stopped playing wow and that he likes Eve... he didn't make fun of any of them.

Apparently Dyack bashing is the new halo...
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BattleAxe - 484 days 4 hours ago
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How would Dyack know what a good game is anyway?
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AuToFiRE - 484 days 3 hours ago
1.8 - as much as i hate the guy..
id have to agree with him, EVE is better
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solidjun5 - 485 days ago
2 - Does this guy ever stop!
My gosh, he's like that little kid that keeps touching the hot stove after you give him the biggest spanking on the face of the earth because he touch the stove.
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Baka-akaB - 485 days ago
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seriously while i can respect his opinion , that kind of stuff is completely outside of his expertise field , and just the opinion of "dyack the videogame fan" , not the dev himself .

What's next articles about wich got his preference between rock band and guitar hero ?
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Ozzyb - 484 days 23 hours ago
3.1 - Nah...
Probably why Coke is superior to Pepsi.. or Why Captain Crunch is a far more in-depth character than Tony the Tiger. :P Does anyone CARE what this guy thinks?
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Steven Colbert - 484 days 23 hours ago
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@Ozzy B

Coca Cola is teh beztest
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NewSchoolGamer - 485 days ago
4 - This
incredibly retarded comment was brought to you by the man behind Too Human, your one and only Denis dyack.
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SolidSnizzle - 485 days ago
5 - WoW
Whoever posted this news must really love to see Dyack get bashed.. Well I really feel sorry for Dyack.. Hes probably reading this site and the news about him everyday. He dies a more and more inside from each of these posts....

What can i say ? If you cant beat em join em !!!!

LOOOL umm yea dYck after your constant boasting on too human, i really think youre opinion matters........ you NUB.
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Denis_Dyack - 484 days 23 hours ago
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I'm still alive and kicking ;)

But yea, EVE is better than WoW, and Too Human is better than Diablo I, II, and III when that comes out =]
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morganfell - 484 days 23 hours ago
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Why feel sorry for him? Before he started throwing a pity party for himself, he was attacking everyone else and their games. Even in the midst of his pity party he was lashing out at people - hence the Neogaf ban.
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kazuma - 484 days 23 hours ago
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u want to know what's really scary? since dyack is such a moron and actually went to neogaf to defend too human, this guy could actually be dyack himself. the internet is not a safe place anymore! everywhere u go, he's can be watching. *shivers*

XD
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CryofSilence - 484 days 22 hours ago
5.4 - @ Dennis
Really, if you are the real Dennis, stop this internet babble. It's quite immature and disgraces a company that I once held in the highest regard (Legacy of Kain remains one of my favorite series' of all time). Your game flopped. Stfu, get to work on the next one and prove everyone wrong (and make it for PS3/Wii as well). Starting internet wars doesn't make your game look any better. If anything, it just brings more attention to how insecure you are about your game, contradicting your self-acclimated surety in Too Human.
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SolidSnizzle - 484 days 22 hours ago
5.5 - Um Mr. dYck
Next time you make a game exclusively Filled with Phail... please oh please type this into the Xbox 360 dev kit.

/quit_life = 1
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Johnny Cullen - 485 days ago
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If I can get a gun, will someone pay my flight to America so I can shut him up?
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Ozzyb - 484 days 23 hours ago
6.1 - Make it a bat...
so we can do it again.. for fun. Is Economy ok or will you be requiring First Class? XD

Edit: He's actually Canadian. lol
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bozobucketeer - 484 days 23 hours ago
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I thought Eve was better than WOW too. Then I played Eve and I found out my assumption was wrong. Eve is a horrible game.
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Baka-akaB - 484 days 23 hours ago
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Dont worry , its lures us like that with false depth and shiny SF graphics . In the end , it felt more like an ego stroke for those feeling like playing a special and "elite" mmo , while the "idiotic" masses plays wow or other stuff .
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NewSchoolGamer - 484 days 23 hours ago
8 - @Johny
Let him finish Too Human 2 first so that we can have more fun, then I'll be happy to pay your flight.
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Baka-akaB - 484 days 23 hours ago
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so you dont even want the third game as well ?

Oh and my comment about the silliness of the article isnt so much about dyack , but the content .

Some insight from dev about games from the competition , and some actual insight is great ... but stupid articles like this ...
Again nothing to do with dyack , even though he's not someone i like ...

I couldn't care less neither about Kojima prefering starcraft or warcraft ... miyamoto pepsi or coca cola .. etc
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pwnsause - 484 days 23 hours ago
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/ Tactical Faceplam


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NewSchoolGamer - 484 days 23 hours ago
10 - ^ ^
LOL that was funny, facepalm indeed.
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SacT0wnF1n3st - 484 days 23 hours ago
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Dennis Dyack is a delusional developer.
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Vicophine - 484 days 23 hours ago
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Message to Dyack: Most games are better than yours.
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PantherAus - 484 days 23 hours ago
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Damn Comedians
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Ozzyb - 484 days 23 hours ago
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hahahahaha! ZINGER!
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butterfinger - 484 days 23 hours ago
14 - Oh D. Dyack,
it's over man. Your time at the top has ended. Feel free to pack up and go home now. Actually, feel free to spend another few months or years on Too Human. Honestly, I don't like Too Human, but there is something good buried in there, it just sadly needs a little more work:P
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kydrice - 484 days 23 hours ago
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Um...Eve wins...what? a few thousand players versus 10 million+? What does Eve win?
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Johnny_Boy - 484 days 4 hours ago
15.1 - Popularity means nothing
Since when does the amount of subscribers have anything to do with how good a game is, Eve by far beats WoW in almost every category.

First, ONE Server thats right ONE with over 200,000 people to log on at any one time, i dont have to find which ones my friends are on and can chat with them at any given time wherever they may be whether in empire space or in the midst of war out in 0.0 space.

Second, IT actually has a penatly for death when u die, meaning when i do pvp there is actuallly some meaning behind what ur doing. For example, watching somebody lose a carrier which may have taken them weeks to get gone in an instant for that one crucial mistake venturing out alone.

Third, It's the largest game universe, there are literally thousands of constellations and places to go and fight for every scrap of space.

Fourth, Better Economy system the economy in Eve is known as an open economy, that is there is no fixed amount of money or materials in the universe and almost entirely PLAYER driven. Actual economist study this game and how its virtual economy compares to real life.

Fifth, everyone has a role whether it be miners, traders, soldiers, pirates, or spies, where in WOW if u not in the higher levels ur pretty useless to ur guild where from day one a corp will have need for u in EVE.

Sixth, The Graphics are mind boggling for an mmo it literally puts wow an almost every single mmo to shame with the amount of detail put into every ship.

So when u actually play this game or other mmo with better design than wow like everquest or an ultima online we can talk, rather than just bashing Dyack. Sure he may not know how to design a good game actually i gave too human a shot and its just plain mediocre at best but at least he can spot talented developers like CCP. Blizzard did da masterful job creating WOW and nothing can take away the absolute phenomenon it is and how its changed mmo's forever leading to many to try to dupilicate the formula and strike lightning just as they did. CCP has completely ignored them and have innovated the mmo genre in there own way making an amazing game and doing nothing like WOW or any other mmo for that matter
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kenshin22up - 484 days 23 hours ago
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If that was your best, bring on your worst!
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divideby0 - 484 days 23 hours ago
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this dude is headed toward an brainorism real soon...
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Meus Renaissance - 484 days 22 hours ago
18 - You guys
He said in his opinion, EVE is a better game because the depth is unmatched. Cant a guy express his opinion? Stop with the hating already, jeez. The guy loves Too Human because he put a great deal of years of his life into it, he rates highly, most dont - leave it at that. No need to hate.

We should in fact be discussing which people here enjoy more; Eve or WoW. Not this.
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TheBigL053R - 484 days 21 hours ago
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There's a point when depth is too much.

When an 6 hour tutorial doesn't teach you everything, you know something is wrong.
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FantasyStar - 484 days 19 hours ago
18.2 - owned by Tutorial.
yah, I'd hate that!
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The Lazy One - 484 days 6 hours ago
18.3 - Agree
As far as I can tell, you're the only one that read the article.
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Dpa - 484 days 22 hours ago
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I agree with Dyack. But EVE is far too inaccesible. It will take you a year before you figure out how to properly play the game, not exaggerating.
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snittolo - 484 days 17 hours ago
20 - Wow....
People need to stop posting/approving this guys sh!t.
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rbbrdman - 484 days 8 hours ago
21 - Why?
What is this recent trend about??
Why does anyone care what Dyack "says".. I know I don't.

He makes a crappy game. He says we need to buy it to support Canada. He gets banned from GAF for things he's said..

When did Dyack turn into the Brad Pitt of gaming. Are we going to next hear about his relationships and see swimsuit photo's from the beach..

Come on.
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Tomonobu Itagaki - 484 days 4 hours ago
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Stop trolling Dennis, you are tainting the reputation of our profession.
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Wii60Fan - 484 days 1 hour ago
23 - Dyack
if there was ever a failed developer it was him.
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Gun_Senshi - 483 days 9 hours ago
24 - While I hate this guy
I have to agree.

WoW is a very bad mmo. Its just a dumped down version of all MMOs before it and make it accessable for everyone and newcomers, from how you play to leveling and pvp.

Just like what Wii is now, WoW is Wii of MMOs.

Also 10mil Subrcibers, which now its down to 8mil and most of them are korean and dual boxing people, does not mean anything.

Britney Spears sold Millions of Records, does that make her best Singer ever?

As for EVE. Its a real MMO unlike WoW. I'm not gonna name how EVE owns WoW in every aspect just scroll above there is someone who made a long intresting post how EVE beats WoW.

In wow, 5 weeks get you to level 70 (As Warlock Horde don't know about other classes). In EVE, 1 Year you wouldn't even know anything about the game.

Also to see how it dumped down MMOs. EQ, You need 3 years to take max level where in WoW only 5 Weeks. Woot? Mind you casually playing it.
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harrisonxxi - 483 days 8 hours ago
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Actually in wow you can get to lvl 70 in about 8 days.

While I love eve and have been playing it since day 1, i have to concede that WOW is in fact the better game. While eve has lots of excellent elements, the learning curve for new players is a major problem.
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idontcare - 483 days 8 hours ago
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Idontcare: Every game is better than Too Human
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