UK Video Game Chart: MGS4 knocked off the top

Superfragilistic - 553 days 14 hours ago

Civ Rev is fantastic. It's all I've played the last week, except for the odd MGO and NG2. It's easily the best strategy title I've ever played on a console and the increased pace, combat emphasis and reduced micromanagement make it a joy to play. Multiplayer is wicked. :)

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FreeMonk - 553 days 13 hours ago

seeing that GTA4 was stuck at the top of the charts for weeks and weeks, it's a shame that MGS4 got knocked off by a far inferier game of Lego Indiana Jones!!

I know the LEGO IJ is multi-platform, but I'd hope MGS4 would have a couple of weeks at number one.

I'm sure if Sony trimme £50 / $50 off the console price, the console plus copies of MGS4 would fly of the shelf!

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nbsmatambo - 553 days 13 hours ago

GTA4 was multiplatform 2

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solidt12 - 553 days 13 hours ago

LEGO INDIANA JONES: ORIGINAL ADVENTURES , Wow, I can't even be mad at lego's because they are cool.

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solidt12 - 553 days 13 hours ago

Im just glad it is still beating GTA IV and a new comer Along in the Dark.

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season007 - 553 days 12 hours ago

http://www.charttrack.co.uk...

Which is true?

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SUP3R - 553 days 11 hours ago

Report this story as fake!!!
The official numbers show MGS4 on top!

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Superfragilistic - 553 days 11 hours ago

Neither is false or as Super puts it fake. Both are reporting on the same data. But this article regards all titles across all platforms, whilst the other ranks titles as exclusives.

Same data but different story angles. You two should learn to read. lol

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zypher - 553 days 14 hours ago

MGS4 is a single platform game. Lego Indiana Jones is on like five or so systems. for that reason i'm more impressed by both the number two and number three sellers, though i don't live in Europe.

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fenderputty - 553 days 13 hours ago

MGS4 is for a much smaller niche market then Lego Indiana Jones which would sell due to the name alone.

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fenderputty - 553 days 12 hours ago

I'm not saying anything different than xbox fans did previous to MGS4's release when speculation was the in thing to do for MGS4 sales. This isn't a justification, its fact. It's not like the game was a wimp in sales anyway.

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Gam71 - 553 days 12 hours ago

Putty going of comments on here from ps3 fans before the game was released I was led to believe that mgs would be bought by every ps3 owner, and all the people that owned a ps2 but hadn't gone to ps3 was only waiting for this game to come out before joining this gen.

It hasn't turned out this way.
niche doesn't justify it.

This game will cop a lot of agro not because its a bad game but because of the claims ps3 fans made in the run up.

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fenderputty - 553 days 12 hours ago

Chart-track just came in with MGS4 on top again. Everything in here is a mute point.

Either way, I cannot speak for all PS3 fans. Only for myself. I know MGS4 is a great game that will sell well. I don't pretend to think it's the end all be all of gaming sales though.

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Gam71 - 553 days 12 hours ago

So you can comment on xbox fans (not being one) but will only speak for yourself with regards to the ps3?

You can speak for why gamers would buy indy over mgs but now you only speak for yourself?

you think the name lego indy is more of well known in gaming than mgs!?!

You think the gaming public would know more about indy than mgs?

So the 120mil ps2 owners only a niche amount knew of mgs?
get real

And thank god for chart track.
i take it you don't mean the completely different chart which has the individual systems sales as opposed to this which goes by the game itself, as that is a different chart to this one, now you dont have to get the dutch chart.

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fenderputty - 553 days 12 hours ago

Dude ... what are you going on about? I'm not speaking for the xbox community. I'm agreeing with those who commented about MGS being a rather Niche game. I've even posted in review threads supporting people who've reviewed the game less then a 9 because I believe this game isn't one that appeals to everyone. Whether its a known franchise or not.

I can't speak for all the PS3 community. When I say that, I mean that I can't take back all the idiotic things the PS3 fanboys say. I never agreed and never will agree with anyone claiming "death to the 360" due to specific game. I never said this game will be the most amazing selling game ever and will propel it past the Wii and 360. I never said this game is going to make all the current PS2 owners jump ship into the new gen. If you can't tell I'm trying not to group myself with these said people.

Also, regardless of whether or not Lego Indy is a known game, releasing it across ALL platforms and adding the name Indiana Jones to the title is bound to increase sales amongst casuals. Looks at how well Pirates sold, or transofrmers, or spiderman. All sh1t games that sold well due to a name.

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zypher - 553 days 11 hours ago

it seems like no one can have a legitimate comment or point of view without someone else automatically pushing them into a certain catagory of gamer.

@360_man

why would i need to justify anything? i have no affiliation to Konami or Sony. it only takes a little bit of common sense to deduce that PS3's low install base, MGS4 appealing to a niche market, and Indiana Jones' multiplatform availability all three contributed to the current sales turnout. i simply own MGS4, and think it is a good game.

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fenderputty - 553 days 11 hours ago

Seriously ... I know this site has more than it fair share of fanboys, but that doesn't make it safe to go around assuming everyone falls into one of those classifications.

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Gam71 - 553 days 10 hours ago

Fair enough fender

I understand if you wouldn't want to be lumped with them, its when you made the comment on xbox fans and about it being a niche it sounded like you was coming from the angle as them lot.

Damage control, spinning facts to suit themselves, if a website disagrees with their point of view its paid for by M$, attack halo 3 because it... gave us more of what halo and halo 2 did which you can't ask for more from a trilogy.

The problem is with so many idiots on here that want to attack attack attack if you are going to make a valid or even un-biased point law of averages states it will eventually sound like one of their comments which is what happened here.
Even they have to make a valid point by accident from time to time. You know what they say, throw enough s**t at a wall and some has to stick.

If that was your own personal point that you came to by yourself through reason and thought instead of pack mentality i accept that as it was given and can see your point.

I'll also try to remember that in the future when i read a comment from you.

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fenderputty - 553 days 10 hours ago

;)

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Gam71 - 553 days 9 hours ago

True.

there are varying degrees.
It's the extreme thats usually what people are talking about when it comes to fanboys.

Of course I can see how you was confused not being a fanboy/girl yourself.

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heyheyhey - 553 days 13 hours ago

and PC i think

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Gam71 - 553 days 12 hours ago

And owners of PS3,360,wii,Ps2,DS,psp all bought a copy for all the systems they own?

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zypher - 553 days 11 hours ago

no. just that, collectively speaking, the install base of the 360, PS3, Wii, PSP and DS far outweighs just the PS3. Indiana Jones is available to at least 70 million people, versus MGS4 thats available to about 14 million currently, and thats assuming that all DS owners also own the 360, PS3, PSP and Wii.

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DongHungLong - 553 days 12 hours ago

Your an idiot. MGS still sold 200k+ this week in Europe. Thats great sales for second week. And yes you can play the exclusive card. Lego is on what 5 different systems? It only had to sale 40k a system in its 3rd week. Most games do that anyway.

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LostChild - 553 days 12 hours ago

I wish I could take your comment seriously but I am to busy laughing at your Arse for telling me how well MGS4 is doing. lol. Please get back in line internet soldier, your out of place. Can't even spell my name right for crying out loud.

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Voiceofreason - 553 days 12 hours ago

Proper way to say that is "You're an idiot" Its really hard to take PS3 fans seriously when so many appear to have the IQ of a rock

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timmyrulz - 553 days 13 hours ago

mmmm, so its ok to post ridicolous amounts of articles about how the game is reviewed, how many its sold etc but when something negative is posted its not ok? good with the bad my friend

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v1c1ous - 553 days 13 hours ago

it's a pillar of hardcore gaming.

MGS represents something. it represent ps3's ability to sell software with big names. it represents the struggle of a single platform game making money. it represents the struggle of hardcore games having to fight off the casual gaming behemoth of this gen.

so no it's a lot deeper than "waaa my console is not selling as well as it DESERVES", it's something much more akin to the state of current gaming.

MGS4 already being knocked off proved one thing. one, MGS series lacks casual appeal which some ppl in this site are unable to comprehend. that's why GT4 will stay in top 10 for months and MGS4 won't. maybe this will make them realize. two, can hardcore games survive in this world, or will this influx make the next ps4/xbox 720 a "family affair". and three, exclusives are not as appealing as multi for sales.

MGS4 will sell phenomenal. but it will NOT be the behemoth everyone on this site expects it to be. be realistic.

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heyheyhey - 553 days 13 hours ago

that's not true at all

in the past week... i've convinced 5 of my friends who have never played MGS/barely played MGS to buy the game just based on how awesome the experience is... offline and on

if the PS3's install base was 25 million or so MGS4 could match Gears with ease.... maybe even claw it's way up to Halo

EDIT: rankings tell us very little

what if MGS4 sold 1.5mil in the first week, and then dropped by 59% to around 700k?

that would be a mighty impressive result for just UK (i realize that those numbers are nowhere near the real numbers, i was just making a point)

point is, MGS4 is second to a game released on 7 platforms- not bad, plenty of casual appeal present

if you look at the individual platform charts you can see that MGS4 still owns the charts- casual buyers or not, they're still buying the game more than casual games like Brain Training

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Topshelfcheese - 553 days 13 hours ago

well it might not be true in your specific case, but as a whole. If the numbers are correct on the drop off of sales, than that imo is why they dropped off.

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AceLuby - 553 days 13 hours ago

Did Halo sell more its second week or its first week? How about GTA4?

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Superfragilistic - 553 days 12 hours ago

MGS4 is a fantastic game but it has a far smaller niche market or as Kojima succinctly put it, "it's for the fans." Halo 3 was an unprecedented sales freak for a single platform release. And GTAIV was a behemoth of a multiplatform. And whilst all sales fall after their first week, just like Hollywood blockbusters, the raw numbers are massively different and speak greatly to the different levels of consumer appeal of each title (but not necessarily their perceived quality).

In my opinion the MGS4 and Halo 3 comparison is entirely unfair as they are different gaming beasts with different markets and put unnecessary and unattainable sales expectations on MGS4, but in terms of being console exclusives their sales records are merited by your enquiry and the arguments of others comparing exclusives to multis and relative install bases. For that reason I've included the other most notable exclusive in terms of sales, Gears of War, for additional comparisons.

MGS 4 off an install base of 13.6m has sold 1.4m in its first week (10% attach rate).
Gears of War off an install base of 5.3m sold 0.9m in its first week (17% attach rate)
GTAIV off a combined install base of 31m saw 5.7m sales in its first week (18% attach rate).
Halo 3 off an install base of 12m saw 3.8m sales in its first week (32% attach rate).

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heyheyhey - 553 days 13 hours ago

Videogamer..... is lying? shocking stuff this

@timmyrulz

the stuff your smoking..... is it good?

dropping to second place doesn't require an excuse... 2nd place against a new game released on no less than 7!!!!!!!! platforms isn't bad news by any means

MGS4 is selling very well

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LostChild - 553 days 13 hours ago

Wow they must the don't like Monster Hunter over there because it is not even on that top 40 list.

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paul_war - 553 days 13 hours ago

That one was for individual formats, showing MGS (PS3) was the top selling individual game. However in the ALL FORMATS chart, Lego is top:

http://www.charttrack.co.uk...

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tfur - 553 days 13 hours ago

RE 10.3

We only track all formats charts when we do not get individual formats charts. You should know that...

How meaningful is it to compare a game on a single platform, to another that is on 6 platforms at once?

I posted the chart that everyone else uses for tracking UK data.

http://www.charttrack.co.uk...

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Andras84 - 553 days 13 hours ago

Rapid drop??? What are you talking about?? You could call it a sudden drop but not a rapid drop...did MGS4 drop to 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th place in a few weeks? no!! So there is no rapid drop!
I think it's goign to get back on top there!!

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LiQuiFiedArt - 553 days 13 hours ago

when your releasing on 5 systems like lego indie ofcourse. Still, MGS4 will be in the top runners for awhile its a cinematic experience like nothing else.

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Gam71 - 553 days 12 hours ago

People will still only buy 1 version of the game.

Multi-plat isn't an excuse. This was supposed to be the sytems best seller, in fact THE system seller.

Unless lego has sold more than a million in the uk there is no excuse for ps3 fans not to buy this.

This is what has been showcased since before the ps3 was released.
How long have people known about lego indy?

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Pornlord - 553 days 13 hours ago

Ohhhh, I see, you're chart actually breaks it down on a game by game by system basis, nice.

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Gam71 - 553 days 12 hours ago

The chart in the story is a real chart as well.

It never claimed to be individual system sales.

Funny thing is when this chart was used to show mgs as no.1 it was the REAL chart then?

What next, the dutch charts to show its still no.1?

I don't have enough fingers to count how many arguments have been settled by dutch sales figures.

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karlostomy - 552 days 23 hours ago

right on dude.

Next time you see dutch, spanish or french charts, just check if they were posted by Nasim (or one of his clone accounts)

I first thought NASIM was on SONY payroll, but then i figured he is too embarrassing even for SONY to associate with.

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shadowghost752 - 553 days 13 hours ago

^^^^^^^^^ retard

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xray7091 - 553 days 12 hours ago

i agree whole heartedly ShadowGhost752

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Gam71 - 553 days 12 hours ago

Wow ps3 fans really don't like it when 360 fans act like them.

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juuken - 553 days 11 hours ago

Um...what's so funny?
Are you getting high again?

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GiantEnemyCrab - 553 days 8 hours ago

OMG 3.4 you hit the nail on the head. If I could hit 100 agree's I would.

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shadowghost752 - 553 days 13 hours ago

learn to spell "discovred" properly

and

what does

"the games is sucks" mean?

Could you translate that for me i don't speak stupid

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waseem335 - 553 days 12 hours ago

hey man lay off the poor guy hes new to the language lmao!!!

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karlostomy - 552 days 23 hours ago

leave that guy alone, you dimwit, just cause you are all riled up about the headline....

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Obama - 553 days 12 hours ago

you crack me up XD. yeah the bots are jealous and will be punished by yevon ya?

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Gam71 - 553 days 12 hours ago

Of what?

Poor software sales?
No thanks. You can have that.

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Wakka_ - 553 days 12 hours ago

No 360 exclusives in the top 10 makes bots cry, ya?

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juuken - 553 days 11 hours ago

Hey Wakka, you gonna make those bots cry again and I'll have to get more tissues, ya?

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GiantEnemyCrab - 553 days 8 hours ago

Look at all of us xbots so jealous that we can't keep the biggest system title the PS3 will see at #1 for more than a week. Ya, ya we are really jealous ya?

It's not like the 360 hasn't had more #1's or maybe GOTY a couple times ya? ya? ya?

Like a retarded Swedish Chef from the muppets or something.

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Snukadaman - 553 days 8 hours ago

Hey juuken maybe with your parachute panties you can dry the eyes of all xbox 360 owners. all 19 million of them...waka waka waka.

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karlostomy - 552 days 23 hours ago

Don't forget it was 19 million months ago. What will it be now i wonder?

..on topic.... wow so, MGSIV spent 1 whole week at no 1? I was expecting a little more... errr.. ownage.

Oh well.
GeOW2 here we come!
Get ready for some real Ownage.

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Obama - 553 days 12 hours ago

Well guess what, it's selling way more than gears at the same rate. Sucks that 360 owners don't buy games anymore ;(

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shadowghost752 - 553 days 12 hours ago

and

Killzone 2,
L.A Noire,
God Of War 3,
Uncharted 2,
Final Fantasy 13,
Final Fantasy 13 Verses,
Heavy Rain,
Team ICO Project,
Jak and Daxter,
Tekken 6,
WipEout HD,
WipEout Trinity,
Resistance Fall of Man 2,
Socom,
Afrika,
Fl0wer,
Pixel Junk Eden,
Angel Rings,
Eyedentify,
White Knight Chronicles,
Gran Turismo 5,
Motorstorm 2,
New red dead revolver project,
Wardevil

These are the unreleased PS3 exclusives, there are many more

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GiantEnemyCrab - 553 days 8 hours ago

Bubble for that Snukadaman!

@6.1: Is that your comeback? That "AT THIS CURRENT RATE" MGS4 has sold more than Gears? Well how about Gears has/is/did sell more than MGS4 and that is a new IP vs. MGS4 going on 20 years of franchises. You are bragging about that? Then you go on to pull an Obama and lie straight thru your buck teeth that 360 owners don't buy games. That's why it has a higher attach ratio then both PS3 and Wii combined.. Wakka wakka!

@6.2: You forgot to mention Uncharted 3, 4 and 5 and MGS 5, 6, 7 and Untitled Rockstar Project #1 or #2..

What a freakin stretch of a list you even had to mention PSN games. What a laugh. Afrika is a Japan only title. LA Noire is multiplatform now, so you lost another.

If we are going to list arcade games as exclusives to brag about then the 360 with releasing 2 new games a week would smoke 'em.

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Obama - 553 days 8 hours ago

Did I touch your nerve? XD Let's see who will has the last laugh when the wordwide sales come out.

By the way, why is 360 owners not buying ng2; the sales are horrible.

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PSMonster21 - 553 days 7 hours ago

^^^
That would be because its a flop.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 553 days 8 hours ago

They better get out the syringe because it's starting to go into seizures.

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