Valve: "We're not PS3 developers"

Cwalat - 601 days 17 hours ago

reading article....

my comment: "no shiet?"

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marinelife9 - 601 days 17 hours ago

That's fine then I don't buy Valve anymore. Any Valve game I purchase will be used or off of Ebay.

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dan-boy - 601 days 16 hours ago

or twisted to fit the sony fanboys logic. if valve are being honest, and think that they can make greater games by concentrating on a particular system, then who the fvck are you lot to start calling them out??

only last week, (apparently) the team making ghostbusters claimed they could've done more had they been ps3 exclusive. i didn't hear all the sony fanboys slagging them off! all they did was do what they do best and start chucking mud at the 360.

so the way it goes on here nowadays is this. if a developer says they can achieve more by concentrating on the ps3: they are brilliant, and the 360 sucks and means gimped games... but

if another developer claims they can achieve more by concentrating on the 360, they're crap, and their games are not good anyway. or as someone else said below valve=epic fail...lol

it just shows what the fanboys who dwell on here think.

a developer concentrating on the ps3=brilliant

a developer concentrating on the 360=bad

grow up saddos!

a quick edit: i wonder if you lot would've said the same thing if valve had come out and said that half-life3 was gonna be ps3 exclusive????

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aiphanes - 601 days 16 hours ago

But they came out and said they do not have the balls to develop on the PS3...then more power to them...they will eventually develop on the PS3 in 2009...they will have to...once popularity of the PS3 surpasses the Wii and Xbox 360...we all know it will...its on the same track as the PS2..

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dan-boy - 601 days 16 hours ago

in europe only! in japan and NA it's nowhere near what the ps2 was doing at the same time.

and it aint gonna be til late 2009 at this rate until it surpasses the 360. and give then attach rate of the 360, developers know they can make money out of it with decent games..as i said, imagine how many half-life3 would sell?

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Qbanboi - 601 days 15 hours ago

@ Dan-boy.

Dude, WTF?? Of course that we have to complain. If a developer says that they don't want to make games on the Ps3 we get angry, and you will see more people complaining because there are more Ps3 fan here. So get used to it, damn it. I hate that every freaking post i see from you, is crying because there are more Ps3 fans and that make you sad.

I bet that if Insomnia says, 360 sucks balls, and they will never make a game on it. You will be the first posting "Guest what Insomnia i don't care, you suck, M$ rulez". So, man get use you it. Majority wins

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dan-boy - 601 days 15 hours ago

before we start, who are insomnia anyway?? if your talking about insomniac though...no, i dont think their games suck balls at-all. and i'm looking forward to 60player on-line in resistance. and jak and daxter were pretty decent platformers also. so be quiet fanboy.

and well done for making yourself look stupid "Of course that we have to complain. If a developer says that they don't want to make games on the Ps3 we get angry"

so that makes it ok to say that valve are crap? because they are ignoring your precious(think of smeegle from the lord of the rings). does it? because valve are pretty decent developers.

bottom line, you fanboys are pathetic, as i said above. if a developer is ps3 exclusive they are brilliant. if they 360 exclusive they are bad. some people need to grow up.

and before i go. your rite i do complain about the amount of sony fanboys on here. because you all post crap, and cling to rrod. plus, you all slag off 360 games when there's no need. fvck, half of you lot haven't even played a 360.

stop talking sh!t, and i'll stop digging you out.

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HighDefinition - 601 days 15 hours ago

I loved PORTAL!

But, I`ve never really cared for Valve, their talented, Half-life was cool but I got bored very quickly playing all of them.

RFOM2 for instance, interests me WAY more than any Half-Life game or the Orange Box, for that matter.

w/ that said Left 4 Dead is more of my type of game, and the ONLY 360 game I care about at all anymore.

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v1c1ous - 601 days 14 hours ago

there are TONS more sony console exclusive big name companies, without even counting japan.

you can count on one hand game companies that are not owned by microsoft and make games only on 360. most of all 360 titles come from multiplatform companies.

PS3 owners were thumping their chests last week when ghostbusters said "they would rather work on ps3 for best possible outcome", well. here's one company with a legitimate reason (understaffed), that would rather work on 360 for the best possible outcome. its one company guys.

for every 360 exclusive company, you got like 10 japanese ones that only do sony consoles.

stop being hypocrits.

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fenderputty - 601 days 14 hours ago

is that valve has already stated they had problems working with the PS3 before. Going this route makes them look incapable and lazy. Its not a bad decision on their part though. They will still sell games and be able to make better ones without the PS3.

Personally ... I don't really care too much. There's plenty coming out this year to keep me happy.

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harv711 - 601 days 14 hours ago

While I agree with most of what your saying, were you on this site last year? It was the bash the PS3 site, where 360 fanboys bashed the PS3 constantly. So I ask you have you forgotten all of that?

Personally I like honesty from developers, even if it's not what I wanted to hear. So Valve doesn't develop for PS3, that doesn't bother me. What does bother me is when a game is promised by a certain date, and is delayed over and over again.

Although I don't own a 360, I'm not going to constantly bash it for whatever reason. I have better things to do than waste my time with hating on a piece of hardware. Fanboys are are fanboys, on both sides. How many times have 360 fanboys bashed the PS3 for the same exact things your complaining about?

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solar - 601 days 14 hours ago

here is the full article posted here almost 3 days ago. Doug Lambordi said "we arent ps3" developers there. yet...only 11 comments by us that were interested in Valve in the first place. obviously no one really cared about reading the article until "oooh, Valve said "we arent ps3 developers" in this story title. frankly it shows me you guys wanted something to hate. and here it is.

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

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Montrealien - 601 days 13 hours ago

Although I do agree with you,

Jack and Daxter/Uncharted/Way of the Warrior/Crash = Naughty Dog

Ratchet and Clank/Decapitator/Resistance = Insomniac

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Qbanboi - 601 days 13 hours ago

@dan-boy

When did I said Valve was crap? I love the Orange Box, but i sux a$$ that it's worst on the Ps3 just because Valve don't "Like" making games on the Ps3. Dude, this is like a forum, people post here to say what they like and what they dislike, so we just can't say that we are angry that Valve isn't going to make games for the Ps3? Because YOU opinion is what matter?

Yo, if someone is a fanboy here is you. If you don't like everybody complaining just ignore us. And before you go telling other people the "you hate because you don't have a 360" look at the pic.

http://i29.tinypic.com/2vtt...

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DigitalEntity - 601 days 13 hours ago

They are shutting themselves on half the market, not to mention that will not sell in Japan and half of Europe. Besides that, not pleasing PS3 owners will damage Valve's image on those markets.

Not a smart move, either they don't care how much they sell or they are just dumb. My bet is on the second.

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Montrealien - 601 days 13 hours ago

Yeah, Valve is dumb....har har. Guess who is the dumb if you think the people running STEAM is Dumb.

They said what they have to say about the PS3. IF you are mad at them and accusing them of being idiots, stupid or not knowing what they are doing then you are simply a fanboy with one console in his patrents basement and mad cause a good dev is not supporting your console of choice.

Myself I got a good PC with Steam full of TF1/TF2/CS/CS:S/DoD/DoD:s/Half Life 1-episode 2 ect ect...I don`t care if they never make a game on consoles, neither do they.

/flex @ disgrees

I am gamer with choice, you are fanboy with less choice.

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sunnygrg - 601 days 13 hours ago

Incognito, with far less devs, have done great with the PS3 especially Warhawk. 150 is more than enough for developing on two consoles according to my calculations.

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gameraxis - 601 days 13 hours ago

who are bots bringing up the ghostbusters post, congratulations you're truly idiots. theres a Huge difference there that you xbots are refusing to realize and that is Ghostbusters is STILL comming out on the 360, sure they said they would rather build on the ps3 but they're sucking it up and doing the game on BOTH...

HERE, they're giving up on the ps3. Do you see the difference now? Can't hardly be a fair comparison

Too Human $ucks

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DigitalEntity - 601 days 13 hours ago

@ Montrealien wrote:

"IF you are mad at them and accusing them of being idiots, stupid or not knowing what they are doing then you are simply a fanboy with one console in his patrents basement and mad cause a good dev is not supporting your console of choice."

It looks like you sir seem to be the fanboy here. Your hatred comment towards me is typical of a fanboy wanting to flame a conversation!

As I stated before: My opinion is that they are shutting themselves of part of the market (the PS3 owners). That is not the current trend of the industry (Activison, Ubisof, ...)

@ Montrealien wrote:
"I am gamer with choice, you are fanboy with less choice."

Your comments are pathetic :(

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Montrealien - 601 days 13 hours ago

So Too Human sux, without ever trying it? And you are the one accusing people of not being fair?

Talk about a pot calling the kettle black...sheesh.

@DigitalEntity

If what I said gets them inner flames going, you passed the fanboy test ;D

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Glad to be a gamer - 601 days 12 hours ago

I say give the crowd what they want and they'll love you for it.

Cod4/dmc4 "same on both systems"= "actually not exactly true". got pics to back it up.

GTA4 "i like the softer warmer colours on the Ps3 version" = "downgraded res, vaseline filter and faded colours"

Ghostbusters= could of done more if it was Ps3 exc.

In the end these dev are just trying to sell their games and kudos to them at least Valve are being honest and up front and trying to maintain the quality of there titles.

(Less ram = more problems in running the same game)

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le killer - 601 days 12 hours ago

jak and daxter = insomniac check it out http://www.insomniacgames.c...

@ gameraxis: so too human sucks? and it's still porbably 5 months til release??? where did you play it? and can you put up some links showing the finished game?

because, only the worst fanboys are saying that too human looks bad. it's not only looking great, but has also some pretty nifty features: 4 player on-line co-op(which in it's self is nothing spectacular),but it's an RPG. with persistent characters, and enemy A.I which adapts to the level of the players.

i would say it's looking anything other than sucky!

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DigitalEntity - 601 days 12 hours ago

@Montrealien

Why do you keep attacking people?

Judging your post history... maybe you should go and make yourself productive instead.

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Montrealien - 601 days 12 hours ago

@ DigitalEntity

Thanks for the life lesson, from now on I will work a lot harder at being more productive in life. Thx sir, oh, also from now on I will take comments section like this very seriously, it is serious business it seems right?

And I attack Fanboys, not people, don`t ever confuse them again. Humanity will be insulted.

@ LE Killer

That link just proves what I said.

Insoniac = Ratchet and clank, not Jak and Daxter.

http://www.naughtydog.com/j...

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marinelife9 - 601 days 12 hours ago

Don't get your panties in a bunch because some PS3 owners who are consumers by the way decide to vote against Valve with their dollars.

If Valve doesn't want to provide content for my machine then we just choose not to provide dollars for their wallet. It's called capitalism.

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le killer - 601 days 12 hours ago

lol you are rite...could've sworn jak and daxter was insomniac. cheers bud. i'm out of bubbles(lost a one today with my post above).

@ marinelife it is I dan-boy in another guise...i made the dan-boy log-in when i forgot my password with this account. anyway, i wasn't attacking you or anynbody else earlier. i was just pointing out how fickle, pathetic and damn rite hypocritical the ps3 fanboys are on here.

@ qbanboi just ingore me then. i wasn't saying it was YOU who was attacking valve, just the other twats that were/are.

sony fanboys who dismiss valve are just suffering from sour grapes. to dismiss their work past/present and future is pathetic. as i said, imagine if half-life3 had been announced as ps3 exclusive?? that news would've been welcomed with open arms, and valve would've been hailed as the better than average developers that are....not now having their work and name besmirched by a bunch of nobodys.

and all those that agreed with me (dan-boy that is) be a sport, and chuck some bubbles my way. for speaking the truth, it would appear that i've lost a bubble already today.

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Homicide - 601 days 11 hours ago

Valve are great developers. They make some awesome games. If EA are making the port, I hope they don't screw it up ala The Orange Box.

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fusionboxer - 601 days 11 hours ago

You must love how much attention your getting.

Anyway the Ghostbuster devs might've said they would be able to create a better game if they concentrated on the ps3, but what are they actually doing? They're making a multiplatform game for almost every system regardless of what they personally might want.

Valve concentrates on the PC and 360 and that's fine, but what good is it for them to persistently say they don't like or work on the ps3. Is it to show their lack of talent or drive for a multi million install base or is it the fact that they simply don't feel the need to learn new hardware? What do you take from it?

No ones currently complaining about Gears, Fable, or the past Halo being exclusive. Ps3 and 360 owners all understand that if a developer works on one platform then they will reap the benefits. If they work on many then it's solid that they'll have to find a common denominator. It's common knowledge now that the ps3 has a bit more development space and to say otherwise is ignorance.

Your also taking reality and distorting it to your view in order to call others dumb. Gamers aren't saying Valve is a bad dev just because they don't develop for the ps3. There are actually a host of reasons that some might dislike them. They remain focused on one dev tool that's clearly outdated, they're led by a pompous fatass, they clearly live in the past, other then the half life series they aren't very well known save for mods that other people created using tools they've made, etc. etc. I for one don't like them because they allowed EA to bring a less then stellar version of Half Life 2 to the ps3.

Basically what i'm saying is if the sony homies start talking bad about valve then it's not because they don't work on the ps3. It's obviously something their management blurted out, or some other dumb crap they did or decided. You don't see the whole gamer population hating on all the other devs working specifically on the 360.

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potenquatro - 601 days 11 hours ago

agree with sonarus.

to all those hating fanboys:as soon as u buy multiple systems ur problems will go away.stop atacking devs because u only have one console and u want it to be the be all end all console.alot of u sound too unreasonable. if ur acting like this now imagine if another golden age like the 16-32bit era comes up.your gonna miss out on alot of great games and consoles with that attitude,and it will be ur loss.there will never be a be all end all system. it's like the ps1 phenomenom left everybody with a bad habit. if u wanna game,buy a system.u wanna be a gamer....i think ur gonna need more than one.i read in a post that there are more sony fans in this site and we should deal with it.well ur console falls short in some ways,deal with that instead of talking out ur arse. i have ps3,xbox(broken) and pc.people like me play the games u love and the games u hate,u guys just play some games and then hate the rest of the time.go talk trash in a sony site not a gamer site. :)

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Dark General - 601 days 10 hours ago

I completely agree with you there. I don't like the Half-Life series and i think it's totally over rated (seriously people should stop comparing it to Deus Ex) and i found it mediocre at best. Now Portal and Team Fortress 2 are completely different stories. 2 great games. I love Gabe and the rest of Valve's honesty about things, so if they say they won't develop on Ps3 i have no problems with that. I think until Ps3 "proves itself" to Valve more then when it comes to developing on consoles Valve would go where money can be made, as any other company would.

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wow4u - 601 days 9 hours ago

" the team making ghostbusters claimed they could've done more had they been ps3 exclusive"

No, the CEO of the company said that. Second, Ghostbusters is owned by SONY.

Take his "insight" with a grain of salt, he's probably repeating something fed him by Sony.

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Homicide - 601 days 7 hours ago

Sony owns the rights for the movie, not the game. Just accept that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360.

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yesah - 601 days 6 hours ago

its really funny when fanboys call others fanboys, and act neutral. Honestly you lack any point at all, one person is not everybody. And i for one say that if they dont ant to develop on the system i own, fvck them. Anything wrong with that? You are a 360 fanboy, thats fine. Just dont come off all high and mighty saying, "you fanboys are so pathetic."
when you stick out your finger ponting at someone, you have three finers pointing back at yourself. Feel free to use that in your kindergarden class tomorrow.

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solidt12 - 601 days 6 hours ago

Well if they make a PS3 version I will buy it. I saw a gameplay video and it looked great. Plus I love zombie flicks so I have to get the game. I have a 360 also but I will no longer pay for Live since I can play for free on my PS3 with no problems.

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gameraxis - 601 days 5 hours ago

I just threw it in there as an off topic against xbots "JOKE" i actually like the way the game looks no i haven't played it

Remember u can be an xbox fan without being an xbot

Any comment i have against 360 is in response to fanboys bashing sony FIRST so if your not them then don't take offense.... SHEESHH

(if u responded to my first post then ur a fanboy as well huh dude?)

Hook line and sinker

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The Lazy One - 601 days 3 hours ago

Here's a few facts. Any game will be better if it's exclusive to any platform. You can work out gameplay issues and performance issues to tune the performance to be the best it can be on the system. That is a fact.

Second, just as many devs have said that it's significantly harder to port for the PS3. Liken it to climbing. Sure you'll have 5 people that can climb everest, but you'll have 20 that never get close, and some that die horribly on the way. Does that make the 50 or so that can climb mckinley worse off?

Bearing that in mind, PS3 went lead platform on a lot of games because it's difficult, not because it's more powerful. You don't design something for the powerful system, you design it for the one that'll be easiest to port with the least lost.

PS3 can be very powerful. It can also be incredibly gimped to certain aspects of a game. It's not better, it's different.

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The Lazy One - 601 days 1 hour ago

i don't even know how it's possible to double post on here.

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samfk - 601 days 1 hour ago

its cus the ps3 is too much hastle to programme for u cant blame them!!

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themyk - 601 days 17 hours ago

360 owners love zombie games. so thats fine with me. if it's not resident evil. i don't want it. so you guys can have it. enjoy. i saw the video, trust me you guys can have it. looks right up your ally

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solar - 601 days 16 hours ago

where did i say i even wanted to play L4D? and i own a ps3. not a 360.

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Amanosenpai - 601 days 16 hours ago

Not serious,

I think its a cost benefit reason.

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kewlkat007 - 601 days 16 hours ago

Huh...?

So first shooters, now zombie games, were moving right down that genre list. I suppose..

Who cares...there are devs, that just do PS3 games, am I gonna cry like a little b$%^h about it NO!!!, I got a PS3.

Valve are PC devs first, IMO and the 360(again), shares the same architect with PC's. Not that surprised..

@Meus down below - Kid I'm sure this has nothing to do with whether they are skilled or not. If a dev wanna put the time/man hours into learning a new architecter I'm sure they can but do own Valve?, Do you know their financial situation? or about how they choose to spend/split money on projects?

Like I said, some 3rd-party devs only do games on the PS3 or vice versa. That Unskilled or Lazy logic is getting old Bra.

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jwatt - 601 days 14 hours ago

That's cool with me, weren't alot of people saying if you can't make a ps3 game then don't make one at all. They will eventually make a ps3 game again(half life 2 for the ps2 anybody). It will be down the line when the cost are down, there is a bigger install base, and the ps3 development has been tapped.

I'm also hearing that Valve is a small team and if I was them I would probably wait to make a game on the ps3 and I'm a sony fan boy saying this. If I had a small dev team who was struggling to get a game running on the ps3 it would be scary ecspecially when you here things on the forums like I'm not buying this valve game or Ea game because they suck. You know these developers probably listen to what we say and some devs might even say if you don't want our game then we won't make it.

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NDN_Shadow - 601 days 6 hours ago

I agree whole heartedly. Though this hurts for PS3 owners like myself, in my opinion, Valve makes pretty good games. If they want to go exclusive, then so be it, it doesn't mean they're bad developers. There are plenty of good 360 games like Mass Effect, Halo and Gears.

I also agree that Valve games are pretty much better on a PC anyway. There's a much higher user base, and the games were built for the PC first anyway.

To add to that, Valve isn't allying themselves with Microsoft either, since STEAM is directly competing with Microsoft's Windows LIVE service for PCs.

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juuken - 601 days 17 hours ago

Your system shouldn't burn down homes.

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juuken - 601 days 16 hours ago

La Chance, the 360 WAS the cause of a house burning down. I could believe that.

What did you want me to say...that the 360 is a God-given gift?

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caffman - 601 days 15 hours ago

it was a faulty original xbox power lead. They did a recall and replace on certain types a few years ago

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Sir Ken Kutaragi - 601 days 14 hours ago

SONY: "We don't Care"!!! ;-D
SONY: "We don't Need You"!!! ;-D
SONY: "Like we don't Need 'Epic'"!!! ;-D
Sir;)Ken: "Let's see you GROVEL come December 2008"!!! ;-D
2008...
Valve: "Hi SONY! Can we please make games for your SUPERIOR PS3???
We have sacked the bone-heads who can't even program a Microwave oven"!! ;-D

+PS3 gamers don't want 3rd rate P.C cast-off games thanks Valve!!! ;-D

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Mr Marbles - 601 days 14 hours ago

Sony: LOL Yeah we don't need great best in the world games from valve and epic.

As long as we have our homo-erotic pedephiliac over rated Japanese duds, we will continue to sell a small fraction of the games sold on 360 and just keep pretentending to still be relivant in the video game industry, hell why not it works on the idiot fanboys on N4G, they still worship us and we have only given them 1 half decent game in the entire life of the PS3, dude raider. LMAO!

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gambare - 601 days 14 hours ago

"We don't have the brains to develop for the PS3, we are stuck in obsolete computer architecture"

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Mr Marbles - 601 days 14 hours ago

LOL!!!!!!

So let me get this str8, you have Sony's balls so far down your throat, that you actually think the PC is obsolete and the PS3 is the next great computing platform? are you insane, THE PS3 ARCHETECTURE IS BROKEN! no one wants to program for it, they only do because they have to, it is less efficiant, more costly, and strugles to produce the same thing 360 produces with half the man hours. Leave the crack alone.

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Pain - 601 days 12 hours ago

Any One that Complains about LEARNING NEW THINGS is lame in my books.

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Sir Ken Kutaragi - 601 days 11 hours ago

I think you have lost your Marbles!!! ;-D

+Well said 'PAIN' my good friend;) Lazy they are!!! ;-D
They can stay using last-gen technology!!! ;-D

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Jason 360 - 601 days 10 hours ago

I agre............ damn I froze u.......... reboot ok Im goo......... fuc...... I froze agai.........

Look!!! I'm online searching......... searching.......... searching......... searching........ freeze.......... searching.........

Look my PS3 controller rumbles! oh wait thats my 360 controller........freeze...... ....

Look how good GTA IV looks on my PS3, opps nevermind thats a 360 gameplay video I downloaded to play on my PS3, sorry I wa.............. freeze.

<--- put in a Blu-Ray movie..... working...... working...... working
<--- puts in GTA IV..... working, oh shi......... freeze......

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PSMonster21 - 601 days 8 hours ago

Who cares valve can do what they want. If you really want to play their games just get a PC.

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ravinshield - 601 days 7 hours ago

Fuk the ps3.that sh!t is gay and heavy and ugly.

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Archaeox - 601 days 5 hours ago

It's so funny when Xbots type in all the problems of one system, even though most of em are rare, and they also like to live in the past

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Xlll - 601 days 4 hours ago

@ravin- How pretty is that box when it melts and sets fire to your home? Oh and sounds like a vacuum cleaner is great huh? Oh 33% fail rate and counting.

@Jason3fixme - playing......playing.....almos t 1 hour of play time.....RRoD.......waits almost 2 months......Playing.....RRoD again......Waits again........playing.......dam aged disc.......playing......RRoD.. .......rinse and repeat.

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Jason 360 - 600 days 20 hours ago

Don't like my anti PS3 comments in light of one of the best devs not liking the poor wittle PS2 (opps I mean PS3) well you can all go fuc.......... freeze........ yourself......... freeze.......... disc read error........ freeze.

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Xlll - 600 days 6 hours ago

LOL jason you are retarded beyond belief. Best dev? If you like the same sh!t over and over with the same graphics. And PS2? Says the guy with the console the lowest visual output. For example GTA IV and Ironman.

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Tony Scarboni - 601 days 16 hours ago

The 360 burned down a house

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liquidsnake - 601 days 15 hours ago

Please LaChance it goes both ways you know. How many times haven't we heard "the PS3 has no games". Just shut your gob please.

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karlostomy - 601 days 13 hours ago

and that aint no joke.

Juuken well done. A girl gamer? Awesome!

Now grow up.

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Deadman64 - 601 days 12 hours ago

I agree dude. I called Juuk on this before. "She" freaked out on me. Explaining how her feelings get hurt when she is called a fanboy because she's really a girl.

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Jenzo - 601 days 17 hours ago

Reminder - PS3 is in 3rd place.

In what way are Valve being "left behind"?

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Ace Ventura - 601 days 16 hours ago

Reminder- Xbox 360 will be there very very soon.

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KBDuB - 601 days 16 hours ago

Why is it there loss? Maybe a few years down the road.. But, right now they know games sell on the 360, not on the PS3.

But, it sucks that they won't make games for the PS3, and vice-versa for some of the studios that work just on the PS3.

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Jenzo - 601 days 16 hours ago

Reminder - You have been saying that since 2006.

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juuken - 601 days 16 hours ago

Reminder: The 360 had a head start and yet they couldn't fix the RROD. And the PS3 is younger than the 360 so of course it would take them time to get the show on the road. And now, they've been outselling the 360 for months.

And guess what?

It won't stop anytime soon. :)

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Jenzo - 601 days 16 hours ago

Outselling by less than 100 000 consoles per month. That won't close the gap anytime soon. They need to outsell the 360 by at least 300 000 units or more per month if they hope to catch up before this generation of consoles comes to an end.

You could say that the 360 had a head start, or you could say that the PS3 was late to the party. If I remember correctly Sony had problems producing enough Blu-ray lasers. The PS3 was techically ready a year before it was released, so it was stalled and not further developed on as some of you want to believe.

Back to the PRESENT(all you crystal ballers). Any way you try to twist it, the 360 has a much larger install base and a better attach rate when it comes to games. As a games developer it's more profitable to release your game on the 360 than on the PS3.

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juuken - 601 days 16 hours ago

Outselling by less than 100 000 consoles per month. That won't close the gap anytime soon. They need to outsell the 360 by at least 300 000 units or more per month if they hope to catch up before this generation of consoles comes to an end.

"You could say that the 360 had a head start, or you could say that the PS3 was late to the party. If I remember correctly Sony had problems producing enough Blu-ray lasers. The PS3 was techically ready a year before it was released, so it was stalled and not further developed on as some of you want to believe.

Back to the PRESENT(all you crystal ballers). Any way you try to twist it, the 360 has a much larger install base and a better attach rate when it comes to games. As a games developer it's more profitable to release your game on the 360 than on the PS3."

You guys have a really bad habit of underestimating the PS3. That's all I have to say about that.

The reason why the PS3 was delayed was because of the fact Sony didn't want to release a defective system. If the 360 had done the same thing, they would have been ahead of the PS3. The 360 is only ahead because of their software. They are not hardware expects-Sony is. Sony are not software experts but at least they have people working with them to provide the best service for customers. That stuff may be taking quite a while but in the end it will be worth it.

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Ace Ventura - 601 days 16 hours ago

lol I could really care less what anyone thinks. I KNOW Xbox 360 is going to come in last place. PS3 just turned one year old in Europe in March. THink about that. PS3 is going to be here for a LONG time.

Do you think Sony is trying to win? You do realie the PS3 is still a 400-500$ console right? The most expensive console of all time for now. And its outselling the Xbox 360 by 200,000 and over 200,000 every month. Soon....very soon it will be outselling it by much more than that.

Xbox 360 doesn't stand a chance. You can believe it does... though there is absolutely no reason to believe it.... it's really beginning to sale poorly... already has been selling poorly. I know P3 is going to win.. and by alot. A whole lot.

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dan-boy - 601 days 16 hours ago

your wrong mate, and your fanboyism has made you blind to the facts. the ps3 could've been out a whole lot earlier. sony didn't give a damn about making a non-defective system. they wanted to make sure that they had blu-ray, and that ment delays because of the laser as someone else.

how long have you been gaming?? both my ps1s and ps2s both died becasue of the problems that affected alot of people. rrod is a problem with the 360, but both of sonys previous consoles had inherent defects... but, the ps3 is doing pretty well. so sony have learnt by their mistakes. microsoft isn't the first platform holder to have problems with their hardware don't you know???????

alrite ventura, i see you have found the place where you belong. outselling by 200k plus a month??? lol where in your sony fanboy head has that been happening? got the links with all the sales figures? even so, the ps3 is sitting about 8mil units behind the 360, just say it stays at 200k a month...well i'll let you do the maths mate. then you can see how long it's gonna bringing up the rear. i can't see sony overtaking til early 2010. and i can see microsoft releasing new hardware around xmas of the same year. sony wont be beaten this gen by a long shot, and they may not get beaten next-gen either. but i don't think sony will rule the roost forever. and one thing is for certain, they will never again dominate like they did!! get over it mate.

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Jenzo - 601 days 15 hours ago

"The reason why the PS3 was delayed was because of the fact Sony didn't want to release a defective system."

Sony themselves admitted that it was because they didn't have enough Blu-Ray diodes ready. Who should we believe? You or Sony?

http://www.engadget.com/200...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/...

"The delay is due to a problem with the mass production of the blue laser diodes needed for the Blu-ray DVD player in the machine Sony said."

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DJ - 601 days 13 hours ago

PS3 has been averaging about 800K units a month and Xbox 360 has been averaging 550K a month worldwide. In fact, PS3 has been outselling the 360 since November of last year.

The gap is a little under 6 million units in terms of hardware sold, and it keeps decreasing with each month. By early 2009, the installed base of each console should be dead even.

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KBDuB - 601 days 12 hours ago

I just want to say one thing..

The PS3 is the best console, right? Then stop using the excuse that it's behind cause it came out late.. If it is the best console, then it should ALREADY be past the 360 in console sales. Simple as that.

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TheKungFool - 601 days 12 hours ago

Wasn't the 360's year head start going to kill the PS3?
Wasn't the PS3's price point going to kill the PS3?
Wasn't the Master Chief's Halo3 going to kill the PS3?
Wasn't the XBox Live service going to kill the PS3?
Wasn't HDDVD going to kill the PS3?
Wasn't the 360 price drop going to kill the PS3?

And what, not getting a few VALVE games are supposed be of concearn?
I get games from SquarEnix, Konami, Atlus, Nippon Ichi, Naughty Dog and such that 360 owners won't, so I'm not too worried.

And this illustrates why its rediculous for the 360 camp to brag about their game lineup; most of the 360's top rated games are on PS3 anyways, and those that aren't I can get on my PC.

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Homicide - 601 days 10 hours ago

Have you forgotten? The PS3 has been selling at a faster rate than the 360. In 2 years, almost 3, the 360 barely done 18 million sold. The PS3 in 1 year, almost 2, sold 12 million, and that's without well recognized IPs, high priced, competiting with two other next gen systems. The 360 had no competition in its first year. Pretty pathetic for MS.

Also wasn't Halo 3 suppose to kill the PS3? What happened? Oh thats right, the 360 got outsold weekly by the PS3 since November.

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KBDuB - 601 days 16 hours ago

Wow.. you're mature. So, how old are you?

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KBDuB - 601 days 16 hours ago

People tend to forget that when dissing another studio for not working on the PS3..

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juuken - 601 days 16 hours ago

Ignorant talk.

In case you haven't noticed, the PS3 has games.

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caffman - 601 days 15 hours ago

just not many good ones

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solidjun5 - 601 days 15 hours ago

of course, you would say that since you haven't played them...or anything on a PS3 for that matter.

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