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The Round Peg - 593 days 13 hours ago

BioWare is also making Dragon Age, which they promised will be a PC exclusive.

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Gorgon - 593 days 8 hours ago

"BioWare is also making Dragon Age, which they promised will be a PC exclusive."

Actually, if you read the forums, they said that at this moment its a Pc exclusive but that may change in the future.

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DeadlyFire - 593 days 12 hours ago

Clock speeds have been moving if you have been paying attention to PC news you would know this. Its mostly only being held back so people can overclock. How far do the latest Chips get pushed when overclocked? Some 4-5+ Ghz with little extra heat. That is saying something if you ask me. I believe Intel will push up their chip speeds a bit in the next couple of generations of their chips up to 4 Ghz. While the new chips will be able to overclock to 5-6 Ghz on air and water as well. IBM promises the next CBE(Cell Broadband Engine) will run at 6 + Ghz. IBMs latest Server Chips run up to 4.7 Ghz with 32 cores. :P

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JsonHenry - 593 days 11 hours ago

I agree with you man. The only thing holding PCs back now is not the lack of increased clock speed, but programs that make full use of multi-core CPUs and all available RAM.

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TheIneffableBob - 593 days 8 hours ago

Clock speed is no longer relevant.
It's all about efficiency now. Why do you think Netburst failed? Because, even though it could go to crazy clock speeds like 7 GHz, it ran ridiculously hot and was terribly inefficient. Intel's latest line of 'Core' processors, however, perform much, much better than their Netbursts. For example, a 2 GHz C2D could outperform a 4 GHz P4 or PD easily.

The whole clock speed thing is a marketing ploy you fell into.

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Fanboi - 593 days 14 hours ago

Console games requires a massive dev budget that anything less than a super star developer can never attempt, and with the high bust ratio the risk and reward is roughly the same as PC games. Plus some genres are by their nature, PC bound. I can't imagine myself playing Starcraft 2 or Diablo 3 on my 360 anytime soon. For one because the console version of those games will be crap, two I don't like the idea of paying $10 for four Starcraft 2 maps when the PC version will be downloading hundreds of user created maps for free.

Either way, you'll end up paying. For the console they rape you with absurd DLC content that most PC users wouldn't pay a dime for, on the PC side you pay high upgrade cost to keep your hardcore PC running like a hotrod. But lets not forget the extremely low cost of PC games in general. You can find brand new copy of PC CoD 4 for $35, good luck getting an unopened PS3 or 360's CoD 4 for anything less than $50.

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RJ2000 - 593 days 12 hours ago

Basically the idea you are going around is the idea that everything can be pirioted and found for free. Still the basic expenses of keeping your PC up to date is FAR more expensive than any PS3/360 life.

Also things such as Gamefly make console gaming so much cheaper.

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Fanboi - 593 days 11 hours ago

RJ200 you obviously have no clue what you're talking about, there are tons of free user created content via mods, maps, etc etc to be had without ever resorting piracy. We're talking about free fan created content made from developer's tools.

For example if all the Oblivion user created content I have in on my HDD were placed on Live it would be worth hundreds of dollars.

I have 12 professional quality CoD 4 maps on my PC right now, and I almost never play CoD 4 on my PC. Yet for the very short time that I do play, 12 maps very similar in themes as the console's variety pack were auto downloaded on to my PC as soon as I join some random server...without me even lifting a finger.

On my PS3 I had to pay $10 for four pathetic map that barely approach the complexity and scale that some kid spent a week crafting with his PC. Thats $30 worth of free content, made by the fans, for the fans, and automatically distrubted so there is no spliting of the community issue like the console's variety pack. Thats one small example, from one game.

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spandexxking - 593 days 10 hours ago

owned

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Revvin - 593 days 9 hours ago

There are more and more independant developers using the console format on XBOX Live and Playstation Network. Both companies have initiatives to encourage this and its becomming cheaper and cheaper to do so. There are options of course for the PC such as Valve's Steam but as Half-Life 2 was pirated is it as secure as the console option?

I've got no issues in paying for quality content, nobody forces me to buy anything I pick and choose what I want but if its quality stuff then I'll pay for it as I did for the CoD4 maps. People can vote with their wallets. As for Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 - there is no reaso nwhy they would not be good titles on the console format. Once upon a time I swore I'd only play racing and sports games on the console and not FPS games as I was always a mouse and keys guy since the original Wolfenstein and Doom games but now I buy the majority of my gaming software for the console format including FPS games. downloading new maps for CoD4 is all wel land good but if nobody is playing them online then whats the point? I used to play a racing sim called rFactor a lot but online was destroyed by the ammount of mods, it was a job in itself to keep up with what the current hot favourite was and then what version was available for that particular mod, it created mismatches and endless hours searching for hosts so there is somethign to be said for a stable platform with a selection of official maps/mods. You can never compare the ammount you spend on PC upgrades to what you'd spend on DLC, thats absurd.

Finally, its all well and good to compare prices of games with discount but the RRP is not that far apart on PC and console software but to take your exmaple - one of the biggest online stores in the UK still only has CoD4 priced £10 apart between the PC and 360/PS3 and I'd rather spend that extra £10 knowing that the game has gone through the validation process with both Microsoft and Sony to ensure quality where as the PC has none and I've been on the receiving end of too many poorly optimised and buggy PC titles to keep going through that even after magazines and gaming sites give those games glowing reviews. Also worth mentioning is the more secure playing enviroment, I encounter far less cheating on the console versions of games that their PC versions. CoD 2 was all but ruined on the PC by the sheer number of cheats available for it even after Punkbuster. That alone is worth the extra £10. Sadly in an effort to stop piracy all PC users are treated like thieves with all the copy protection etc. On the console I buy the game, put it in the drive and play no need for extra software to be installed such as Starforce or Steam. Starforce was hugely unpopular for the levels it dug into your PC and caused issues, even protection products like Safedisc caused me to have to buy a new CD Rom drive because the one I had would not play those discs when Safedisc was first used. A lot more people have issues with SecureRom. That to me is also worth the extra £10 for the console version of a game.

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Charlie2688 - 593 days 7 hours ago

"For the price of a decent graphics card you can buy either one of the next-gen consoles and a few games"

WOW SWEET I didn't knew the consoles were already sub 200 bucks and the games were around 2 bucks :D

you MUST tell me were I can buy consoles and games that cheap

by the way do you get free outdated info and general lack of knowledge on PC gaming when you buy them? cuz you seem to have got a LOT of that :)

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Revvin - 593 days 9 hours ago

I know plenty about the parts I buy, I've been doing this for long enough to know just putting a new graphics card in your PC isn't necessarily going to help if its bottlenecked by a slow CPU or lack of RAM. Its no coincidence that a lot of my LAN party one-time PC only mates are now buying consoles especially when faced by the poorly optimised and buggy software the developers are pushing on PC users.

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Charlie2688 - 593 days 7 hours ago

WOW Revvin you know about PC gaming? by you comments who would have EVER guess it!

are you sure you are not talking about your PC gaming 10 years ago?

cuz it sure sounds like it :)

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Proxy - 593 days 10 hours ago

Your 8800gtx can currently produce 8800gtx level graphics. They look great! 3 years from now, that card will not be able to produce level 10 graphics (or whatever they have at the time), but it will be able to produce 8800gtx level graphics still. You say they look great now, it will still be great in 3 years! It's just that there will be greater cards and greater graphics. If your happy with your console today, you should still be happy with your console in a few years. Likewise, if your happy with your graphics card, you should still be happy with your graphics card in a few years. Neither of them are going to change any.

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kydrice - 593 days 7 hours ago

Thus the PROBLEM with PC gaming, the moment you buy the top of the line components for your pc you're on a timer and within a month you'll be outdated. Within a year and you'll be obsolete. PC games companies need to draw a limit and stick with it for a few years.

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Charlie2688 - 593 days 7 hours ago

@richierich: if you know what to buy and when to buy it you shouldn't have any problem

for example last gens 8800GTX was the top of the 8000 series from launch till its finals days when the 9000 series was launched so no point in peoples ignorant "ZOMG $600 card every month" comment

that 9800GTX is the top of the 9000 series so you shouldn't have a problem for a LONG time, depending on the brand of the card if after 90 days there is a new card you can always exchange it

in the processors department its the same knowing when the new ones are coming and if they are entry level ones or further into the generation, for example I waited a couple of months to buy my new processor and is still top of the line

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Kakkoii - 593 days 6 hours ago

richierich is a prime example of what NOT TO DO. You paid so much money for crap you didn't need.

RESEARCH PRODUCTS BEFORE YOU BUY THEM!

That 9800GTX has barely any performance gain over the old 8800GTX. Because it uses the same damn graphics chip. So you just paid probably $100+ more then you would have for an 8800GTX. That's called an uneducated purchase, and is a main reason why console fanboys complain about prices.

Quad-core cpu? You do realize pretty much no games can fully take advantage of a quad-core right? It's pretty much wasted money.

You should have bought only a dual-core.

PC Gaming can be just as cheap as console gaming, if not cheaper if you do it RIGHT! I just wanna f$%cking scream at the people who are making all these false claims about PC gaming out of there own spite and love for there consoles.

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potenquatro - 593 days 5 hours ago

it should last u enuff time.like others stated, it wasn't necesary to buy such expensive products.but if it's true u got that, theres good news. ur mobo should be able to handle the newest type of ram and u got a nice cpu that will last and the top of the line of the 9000 series.i say forget what u heard,ur ok.u should be able to play nextgen and u will see in the coming year how the price of ur rig with cheap games and free mods will even out with the price of console gaming.maybe alitle more expensive but not much. :)

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Kakkoii - 593 days 5 hours ago

Stop exaggerating things. 4000$? Are you f#$cking kidding me?

No one needs to upgrade there 600$ graphics card every 2 months.

Firstly because "almost" no f*cking graphics card cost's that much.

The average price for a top of the line card these days is 150-300$ Depending on how much memory you want on the card, how new the card is, and other features it might have.

Games don't advance that damn fast. You only need to upgrade your graphics card every 2-3 years AT THE LEAST!. And new graphics card series don't even come out that f*cking fast. Maybe once a year. But just cause it comes out doesn't mean every damn PC owner needs to rush and get the best more f*cking expensive card from the series.

Those REALLY EXPENSIVE CARDS are for people called "PC Enthusiasts". Some people like to spend a lot of money pimping out there cars to look all nice... Well PC's are like cars for the tech savvy. People like to make them there own and customize them to there liking.. FOR FUN!

But if you just want to be a PC Gamer.. Then all it takes is some damn research of parts on google to see what's the best price to performance value. There's f*cking 4 year old cards that can play Crysis. It may not be MAX SETTINGS.. but it doesn't need to be f*cking max, get that threw your head people.

Oh the whole piracy argument... One of the biggest lies from console kids ever.

Or are you really that far in your cave that you don't know that CONSOLES HAVE A HUGE PIRACY FALLOWING ALSO!

You can DOWNLOAD and BURN both the Wii and the 360 games. And then play them if you have a modchip. Which is a one time payment of less then what it costs for a single game lol. Go take a look around on some torrent sites. 360 games are released regularly and downloaded by tons.

The only disc based console that hasn't had a piracy scene is the PS3 and that's only because they use Blueray, which is damn expensive just for the media and a hell of a lot more expensive for the burner. So it's impractical for the average guy.

Hell, my Xbox (not 360), All I had to do was install some software on it and I could download and burn any game to a regular DVD, pop it in the Xbox and play it. The first Playstation all you had to freaking do was hold down a tiny button at the back and swap out a real disc with a burnt one at the right time and you could play it.

So don't go spouting that sh!t about consoles not having strong piracy. Because piracy has been damn strong on consoles for a LONG TIME.

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Fanboi - 593 days 3 hours ago

Games that cost $4000 to play = ignorance. There is no such thing as a PC game that requires a $4000 PC to play. Hell there isn't even a game that requires a $2000 PC to play and I'm talking about Crysis.

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tgh machines - 593 days ago

I just made a computer for about $425 and it can play UT3 1280x1024 with every thing at max with a stable frame rate. It can do Crysis at the same res on medium/high with a solid frame rate.
PS. the specs of the computer is 2 gigs of ram, AMD duel core 5400+ which is like 2.8ghz and a 512 DDR2 graphics card. I also reused the hard drive and disk drives from my older computer.

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cysna - 593 days 5 hours ago

The thing is this my friends and some of you allready know this. The sales of normal desktop PC's is declining year after year. All the major manufacturers know this. The reason is simple: Laptops! Laptops rule the markets. Laptop/notebook sales are increasing all the time.
The truth is that after 2 or 3 years, only desktops they sell are some industry desktops to some companies but they also are moving to so could "blade pc's" which are situated in some IT hosting companies. You only need a screen and keyboard.

And we all know that laptops and notebooks can newer be for gaming. That we can all agree. (still i'm playing fallout2 with my new laptop but that doesn't count)

So the only gaming you do in the near future is WITH CONSOLES!! Sorry guys (and my former fellow pc gamers) but that's the truth. And I know it because I work in that field of business.
So you guys who are still hanging on to your beloved PC's, wake up already!

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potenquatro - 593 days 3 hours ago

i liked what u said.sounded logical.but aren't laptops becoming extremely powerfull? isn't console gaming nature to create closed very controlled networks wich will keep the openness of the pc gaming relevant? i ask because unless u make ur pc to work with ur tv and controller,pc and console gaming are complete difrent expiriences. enuff to warrant buying two seperate machines? for me it is.idk if enuff people feel that way,but i do. i too play some games on lappy(cod2,vietnam,bf2,ob,coh) ,and i love the fact that i can switch from working to surfing to gaming at any moment.

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cysna - 592 days 12 hours ago

My point was this: The sales of desktop PC's is low and declining year after year. And when there is fewer and fewer PC's out there (plus the piracy) there will be fewer and fewer games to PC's. Game developers have already moved to console gaming and the same thing continues.

But I think that only a good thing for us gamers. Games always work and you can always play the game the way that they are meant to play. With full graphics. And another thing is that game developers have to deal with the specs that consoles have now and use them more efficiently.

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Kakkoii - 593 days 3 hours ago

Whether a game is fun or not is purely up to a persons preferences.

Like if your an MMO fan.. There's tons of MMO's on PC's that people love.

Or you could play this crazy game called Trackmania United that I love so much.

There's something for everyone out there :)

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Fanboi - 593 days 3 hours ago

Trachmania United is a retail game, except now the devs decided to give it away for free.

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Kakkoii - 593 days 2 hours ago

Who said it wasn't a retail game?

And you are wrong.. They aren't giving it away for free.

They recently finished a huge upgrade called "Forever"

Before, there was a free version of Trackmania called "Trackmania Nations"

It was limited to the stadium, had less blocks to build with, a little worse physics and you could only race online with other Nations players.

Trackmania United was the one you had to pay for. It had a bunch of different types of racing environments/types. And combined all the previous Trackmania games. (e,g: Trackmania Sunrise, Trackmania Original)

Now with the Trackmania United Forever update. There are a bunch of new blocks to build with, the interface has been re-designed.

And now people who played the free Nations version can race against the United people. By using the Trackmania Nations Forever update.

Basically it's the Trackmania United Forever client. EXCEPT! They only get the Stadium environment to play on in Solo and Online. And they can't use custom car models and avatars.

They did this so that the Trackmania community would no longer be split. And it also allowed people playing the free version, to see what the pay for version is like. Helping entice new customers.

Trackmania United still costs money and always will.

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ruibing - 593 days 16 hours ago

And how much we are all willing to pay for new state of the art specs. I've started to discover how I was upgrading my desktops and laptops more often because of gaming applications rather than my everyday use.

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alexM - 593 days 4 hours ago

even CRISIS and UT3 mega flopped all over the world

COD4 couldnt even sell 500k worldwide on PC

PC gaming and x360 are ALIVE in ONLY MS dreams

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LevDog - 592 days 19 hours ago

True.. Im not a WOW fan at all.. South Park portrayed WOW players the best I think.. but could you imagine if Ps3 or 360 made WOW an exclusive.. who ever got it would win the console war for sure..

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Hatchetforce - 590 days 21 hours ago

WOW will not come to consoles. What an idiotic comment. Hang yourself...now.

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