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GDC: Valve confirms Left 4 Dead left off PS3, moots Source for Wii

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Speaking to videogaming247 at GDC today, Valve's Doug Lombardi has confirmed that highly anticipated zombie shooter Left 4 Dead will definitely not be making its way to PlayStation 3, and said that if the company were to tool up for a format outside PC and Xbox 360 it would be Wii.

"We were really crappy at bringing games to consoles," he said. He cited the time it took to move the original Half-Life games to console formats as an example of how the company had come "really late" to console development. He said that while the focus had always been on PC, the company had now moved up a gear to produce games simultaneously on Xbox 360 and PC, but that it had limited interest in developing for Playstation 3.
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UnblessedSoul - 668 days 14 hours ago
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but that it had limited interest in developing for Playstation 3.
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Yeah I bet you stupid retards, learn to program
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decapitator - 668 days 14 hours ago
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Someone send them this link and tell them to STFU. Thanks.

http://nocturnal.insomniacg...
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socomnick - 668 days 13 hours ago
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Thing is they do know how to program they just dislike the ps3.
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Panthers - 668 days 13 hours ago
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That is because Valve are douche bags. Their games would sell on the PS3 if they would just quit being fanboy devs.
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SRuN4 - 668 days 13 hours ago
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Really? Cause last time I checked they haven't made a PS3 game yet.
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decapitator - 668 days 13 hours ago
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I highly doubt that he can code for the system. No developer will pass up an opportunity to make money unless they have been money-hatted by a different company. From a business point of view, it makes no sense.

@SRuN4
That link should be a nice start for them. If they are still having problems with the basic stuff Insomniac have simplified for them, they can check the latest cross platform engine from Sony out:

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...
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hfaze - 668 days 13 hours ago
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1.6 - The ghost of Gabe Newell lives on at Valve... ;-)
That's just flat out bias or just being absolutely set in their ways to a fault...

Infinity Ward has put together a SOLID cross-platform engine with CoD4. It runs great on Windows, Xbox 360, AND PS3. Valve is just so set in their ways that they don't want to learn how to work with the PS3 architecture.

The 360 is a natural extension from PC/Windows architecture, they didn't have to learn much to adapt from Windows development.

The PS3 is more like a vector processing (SIMD) supercomputer, WAY different from PC/Windows development.

Gabe Newell may not be with Valve in body, but his spirit is still there... ;-)
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jessupj - 668 days 9 hours ago
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1.7 - this way need to go to the openzone, but...
Valve can go f**k themselves as far as I'm concerned. Half-life was a great game but thanks to their arrogance and stupidity I'll be avoiding their games in the future.
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f4nb0i - 668 days 3 hours ago
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1.8 - Cake-roflz
Talk about throwing the rattle out of the pram.
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PS360WII - 668 days 14 hours ago
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Yeah they really don't like developing outside of PC structure do they?
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Silellak - 668 days 14 hours ago
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Well, I think it's more that they can do 360 and PC development in parallel because the code is so similar, but throwing in a PS3 version makes things that much more complicated and increases overall development time.

You can write for the 360 and the PC at the same time, but not for the PS3 and the PC at the same time, because PS3 architecture is significantly different than PC architecture. The PS1 and PS2 were the same way - in fact, they were supposedly a bit worse.

Sony has been working on remedying this issue - there's an article up right now about that very thing:

http://www.n4g.com/events_g...

It's still not as close as 360/PC development, but it's a big step in the right direction.
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decapitator - 668 days 14 hours ago
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It would seem so. Guess they do not really like making more profit than they normally would. Oh well, is their loss. They prefer developing only for the system with over 100% piracy activity.
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Silellak - 668 days 14 hours ago
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Well, that's it folks. The console war is over. Pack it up - better luck next generation.

...okay maybe not. Looks like a fun game, but not the same level of HOLY CRAP exclusive like MGS4 or FF13. Especially because, like 95% of 360 exclusives, it's also going to PC.

I'll probably get it for the 360 though, if only to avoid cheaters/hackers/etc. that are sure to exist on the PC.
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pwnsause - 668 days 13 hours ago
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thats why theres VAC though, but anyway I agree, tell them to STFU and learn to program.
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Silellak - 668 days 13 hours ago
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Judging games before they come out is *awesome*.
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NEO_X - 667 days 20 hours ago
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4.2 - @Silellak HOW COULD ANYONE
disagree with such a quirky retort such as this.
Bubbles for you :)

p.s. now for my point
PS3 is doing fine with or without them, I really love the Orange box it is loaded with goodies but the attitude that Gabe comes with is so annoying at times
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zonetrooper5 - 668 days 14 hours ago
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Still getting this game for the PC, so I can make maps for it and because it will be the best version. No it does not take a 2 grand computer to run most of the games on the Source engine.
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solar - 668 days 13 hours ago
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not surprising at all they wont do a ps3 version.
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That_Whore - 668 days 10 hours ago
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True. I bet they will still mess up the wii version. Good luck with that valve.
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solar - 668 days 10 hours ago
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Valve rubbed me with wrong way with how Gabe let the ps3 version of OB go to EA who are known for the terrible ports. HL:2 is one of the greatest games ever and to see Gordon and the gang get abused for a buck...rubs me wrong.
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funkeystu - 668 days 2 hours ago
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I don't disagree that it was a bad idea to give the ps3 port to EA, but I think we do need to take into account that Valve do tend to be quite slow at developing games (I mean really slow - it took a few years each for the 8hr episodes to be developed and 2.5 years for portal and both were made for an existing engine).

I'm not saying this is a bad thing (although it is frustrating at times, valve have produced some very polished kickass innovative games and I love them for it) but it does mean that they would be spending a long porting it.

It is a shame that they're not doing a ps3 version, but they obviously weren't happy with the quality to which EA shipped the ps3 version of Orange Box and don't want to be associated with another mediocre effort. The ps3 is a top platform and will have a great year regardless of any announcements by Valve.

Also I just wanted to say in response to all the 'learn to program' comments - Valve is a great dev and have done heaps for the industry. They can well and truly program, but they do take their time (this probably accounts for the high quality of their games). I'm sure the source engine *could* work on the ps3, but it would require more time than Valve are willing to invest to do it *right* and to their high standards. In the same time they could have released something like portal2 on pc and the 360. On the bright side - since L4D is a source engine game it should run on pretty old hardware- chances are most ps3 owners will have a comp capable of running it!!
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Boldy - 668 days 13 hours ago
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I think I will probably get it for both the PC and Xbox 360. 360 for achievements and playin with friends and PC for map modding and the best way to play a Valve game.
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Mattearl - 668 days 13 hours ago
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8 - You can keep it!!
Resident Evil 5 is going to be better anyways.

Your missing out on a 10.5 million console market (and growing).... I would invest in making games for PS3.
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Boldy - 668 days 13 hours ago
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So what you are saying is that the PS3 is the only game system that is selling. That the sales for the Xbox 360 and Wii have come to a screeching halt. I got to give that a LOL.

Edit: I'm getting disagrees? so people believe that the PS3 is the only thing that is selling, and the 360 and Wii are selling 0. Wow, that is just.... Wow.
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Mattearl - 668 days 13 hours ago
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Oh no, thats not what i'm saying at all. Just by not producing PS3 game they are missing a share of the market. thats all.
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Boldy - 668 days 13 hours ago
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I thought you were sayin that... well what I stated in 8.1 (don't feel like repeating it). Yeah they will be missing out some copies sold on the PS3, but Valve has made it clear that they just really don't like the PS3.
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cmrbe - 668 days 13 hours ago
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9 - Haha
I have a feeling most if not all PS fans don't give a rats ass about this game.
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socomnick - 668 days 11 hours ago
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they should because this is an amazing game.
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cmrbe - 668 days 9 hours ago
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9.2 - Perhaps it is great
but i bet you most of PS fans don't know this game even exist. Most would take KZ2 and R2 over this game in a heart beat. That is my suspicion off course.
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kevanio09 - 668 days 13 hours ago
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as the game is not on the ps3 it becomes terrible and not worth buying straight away?
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cmrbe - 668 days 13 hours ago
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10.1 - I am not saying at all its going to be bad
Valve from their track record are great devs but most PS fans like myself i strongly suspect didn't know this game existed nor cared much about it. Why because PS FPS fans have been occupied with Killzone2 and R2 news rather than a game that was stated as a x360 exclusive from the beginning.
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f4nb0i - 668 days 2 hours ago
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LAWLZ
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Bazookajoe_83 - 668 days 13 hours ago
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11 - To bad they cant keep up
It would be fun to play it with a ps controller =/
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Lex Luthor - 668 days 12 hours ago
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fail.
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AllroundGamer - 668 days 13 hours ago
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Valve must have read only the "programming for dummies" book and started developing games... (i loved Half-life 1, but this is ridiculous)
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CPTN MITCHELL - 668 days 13 hours ago
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14 - dumb @$$
We were really crappy at bringing games to consoles,” just look what we did with half-life 2 for the ps3. i don't give a rats @$$ about this game or any other game from valve or ea..........viva la resistance 2
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kwicksandz - 668 days 12 hours ago
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14.1 - Crappy games to console?
you mean half life 2? one of the highest rating FPS on any ranking site you care to visit. Valve make AAAAA+ plus games just because its not on ps3 doesnt make it crap.
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niall77 - 668 days 13 hours ago
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15 - I like valve I really do BUT
they should really try and be less of a ass about this.

and why Im not buying left 4 dead....since when can zombies run?
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nomad117 - 668 days 13 hours ago
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28 DAYS LATER
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The Round Peg - 668 days 13 hours ago
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Interesting that fanboys are complaining about Valve not making games for PS3 and how Valve is anti-PS3.

But no one is complaining about Insomniac not making games for the Xbox 360 and is anti-Xbox 360.
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cmrbe - 668 days 12 hours ago
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I am a PS fan and i don't think valve are being a fanboy. Its obvious that they don't want to spend money on developing for the PS3. They know very well that their type of games do better on the x360. For the wii i believe they are just looking at the installbase. This is fair because i bet you that if it was released for the PS3 it wouldn't sell that much at all. PS FPS fans are much more interested in R2 and KZ2 to care about this game. Those that do might torrent it for their PC
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velaxun - 668 days 11 hours ago
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They're not zombies, they're humans infected with the Rage virus. They just display zombie like quailities, that's all. Lurk moar.
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nomad117 - 668 days 13 hours ago
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The source engine is getting pretty outdated. What's valve going to do?
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kwicksandz - 668 days 12 hours ago
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16.1 - TF2 didnt look dated
Valve keeping updating the source engine with things like HDR and, bloom and soft particles. TF2 looks brilliant at 1900 x 1200
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nirun - 668 days 13 hours ago
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damnit valve!!!

I guess they have to keep PC gaming alive some how! *looks at tf2*
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Adropacrich2 - 668 days 13 hours ago
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More news like this please
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DJ - 668 days 13 hours ago
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19 - That's kind of wierd
Considering PS3 is closer to PC architecture than the 360. Then again, Valve also has a preference for ATI graphics cards, so go figure. I love their games, but Valve needs to man up. The Orange Box (PS3) could have been a lot better if they hadn't outsourced its entire development to EA.

With Sony giving out comprehensive libraries of code (as well as a multiplatform PC -> PS3 engine) and Insomniac giving free help to other developers, companies like Valve have no excuse to say "It's too difficult."
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sak500 - 668 days 13 hours ago
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The best excuse is they are not interested. Looking at sales figures of HL2 and most other games on ps3 might give shivers to developers
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