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Real Valve Fans Form L4D2 Enthusiast Group

In the face of over 30,000 whiny "fans" who've formed the L4D2 Boycott group, the real Valve fans are beginning to fight back with their creation of the L4D2 Enthusiasts group.

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cyguration5427d ago

it's gone from giving the general public the bird to giving the public a thumbs-up...

I think I liked the middle-finger better.

RKRigney5427d ago

Heh yeah their logo definitely isn't as good but their stance is at least logical. The message is "just wait and see. This is a great bunch of game designers. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt, here."

Perjoss5427d ago

the idiots that start these boycotts dont realize that they are actually giving away free hype and publicity to the game they are hating on.

ThanatosDMC5427d ago

I bet valve people started this... or a bunch of ignorant 12 yr old kids that dont understand why people are pissed. They must be bored of L4D all ready... i mean, 4 campaigns and all.

badz1495427d ago

I'm not a supporter for rip off! L4D is as short a game as it can get was promised to have more contents yet they came with L4D2 already? if L4D2 is going to use a new engine, yeah maybe that's ok but it will be the same fvcking game using the same fvcking ancient engine!! I'm no supporter for scamcom and I'm no supporter for scamvalve either! who ever support these scam business is STUPID! at least show some dignity as a CONSUMER not bow to every single fvcking scam just because you're a FAN!

caladbolg7775427d ago

The Left 4 Dead 2 Boycott is a group of individuals who have pledged to boycott Valve's upcoming release of Left 4 Dead 2 on November 17th, 2009. We have assembled a manifesto outlining the basic concensus of many members of our community. (Note: this manifesto is a new version, which we have recently posted to keep our manifesto in line with the middle ground of our members. This is the correct group for the boycott)

WE RECOGNIZE:
-Valve is a company with financial needs and cannot be expected to survive without the release of new games.
-Judgment cannot be passed on the quality of Left 4 Dead 2 until its release.
-Left 4 Dead was, and is, a quality game which deserves the praise of the entire gaming community.

WE ARE COMMITTED:
-To holding Valve to its promise of free, continual updates to Left 4 Dead in order to build and sustain the community.
-To keeping the Left 4 Dead community together in order to improve the quality of online gaming.
-To supporting the model of continual updates Valve has set forth with its staple products like Team Fortress 2.

WE BELIEVE:
-The release of Left 4 Dead 2 as a stand-alone sequel will split the communities and decrease the quality of multiplayer gaming.
-The announced content of Left 4 Dead 2 does not warrant a stand-alone, full-priced sequel and should instead become updates (free or otherwise) for Left 4 Dead.
-Left 4 Dead has not yet received the support and content which Valve has repeatedly stated will be delivered.
-The release of Left 4 Dead 2 will make Left 4 Dead an obsolete purchase and inferior piece of software after only one year since release.

WE REQUEST:
-That Valve honor its commitment to release ongoing periodic content for Left 4 Dead.
-That Left 4 Dead 2 not be released as a stand-alone, full-priced sequel but as either a free update to Left 4 Dead or an expansion with full compatibility with basic Left 4 Dead owners.
-That Left 4 Dead owners be given discounts for Left 4 Dead 2, should it be released as premium content.

Therefore, we - the members of this Left 4 Dead 2 Boycott - promise to abstain from the purchase of Left 4 Dead 2 until our requests are addressed.

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cain1415427d ago

Boycotting a game is just stupid imo. I've played left 4 dead 2. It was fun.

RKRigney5427d ago

I agree, Cain. I got dozens of hours of great fun from the first game, so I'm more than happy to pay for more. I don't DESERVE free content: I'm happy they're just making more of an awesome game. And it'll be even better this time, as well!

caladbolg7775427d ago (Edited 5427d ago )

If you purchased a game where the developers promise future updates but that promised content is never released, then by all means, you have every right to feel cheated, every right to complain, and every right to boycott that developer's products.

Many of those 30,000 individuals involved in the L4D2 boycott are there for well-grounded reasons. It's obvious that you haven't read their manifesto. Maybe you should check out their steam group? They are hardly a group of unappreciative whiners.

http://steamcommunity.com/g...

Unicron5427d ago

I like how you can only be a "real fan" if you agree with everything a company does.

Stupid.

RKRigney5427d ago

The definition of a fan, according to dictionary.com:

Fan:  /fæn/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [fan] Show IPA
–noun
an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan; a great fan of Charlie Chaplin.
Origin:
1885–90, Americanism; short for fanatic

Synonyms:
supporter, enthusiast, partisan, booster, addict.

The guys giving Valve hell after one trailer and a promise that they'd still support Left 4 Dead 1 FOR FREE are in no way, shape, or form fans.

thebudgetgamer5427d ago

we can be friends, but if i ever do something you dont agree with. i will cut you off, and call you a retard.

:)

UnwanteDreamz5427d ago (Edited 5427d ago )

"enthusiastic devotee, follower,"?

I don't know a single intelligent person who would want to be described in that way.

You can admire something and disagree with it at the same time but you would have to be older than 12 to realize this fact.

thebudgetgamer5427d ago

so if youre a fan of someone and they pee in yor cereal will you still be a fan?

:)

RKRigney5427d ago

Right, Budgetgamer, because not wanting to give away a game they worked on for a year is exactly like peeing in my cereal. http://www.talkshoe.com/cus...

UnwanteDreamz5427d ago

LMAO maybe not but trying to shout down another consumer who it just making their voice heard helps us how?

thebudgetgamer5427d ago (Edited 5427d ago )

the point of the question was how much would you let somone shi on you before you say enough. im talking outside of valve to you. whats your limit?

:)

caladbolg7775427d ago

Budget, just ignore this guy. Trolls like this are beyond recovery.

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15 Xbox Games That Should Make the Multiplatform Jump

While there’s likely already a list behind closed doors, one can still speculate and offer logical suggestions for titles new and old that should find their way into the PlayStation and Switch libraries.

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GamerRN43d ago

Single A games and live service games. Those make sense

S2Killinit43d ago

None of it makes sense. But its happening.

Ps5conehead43d ago

That’s up to Microsoft they want return on there investment. From buying up those publishers. That’s what there in business for. And they made a mistake putting day one exclusive on game pass. So now Microsoft wants to profit any way they can.its called buisness . Just like Sony putting games on pc a year are two after ps5 launch.
So if they can make money off PlayStation and Nintendo. They will do that. And I bet soon real soon they will release some aaa exclusives .and I bet one day it will be same day release

TheEroica43d ago

Sony gamers begging for Xbox games.... Who would've thunk it?

BISHOP-BRASIL42d ago

Yeah, because random site off the internet represents all Sony gamers, they have the letter of attorney and all...

S2Killinit42d ago

Lol what a spin. You dizzy?

AsunaYuukiTheFlash42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

We don’t care about shovelwares. Get that junk out of PS5

StormSnooper42d ago

More like MS begging to put their games on PlayStation.

TheEroica41d ago

Keep begging Sony gamers!

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Friendlygamer43d ago

Some of these seem to be exclusive for lack of enthusiasm of the publisher rather than because of deals. A lot of cool indies skip ps for some reason like katana zero, el paso, elsewhere and gunbrela

S2Killinit43d ago

Even more indies skip xbox. We know that right?

Friendlygamer43d ago

Quality over quantity, Microsoft got some really interesting and curated niche games on their machines, maybe in part because of gamepass

S2Killinit42d ago

Quality and MS are not things you bring up in same sentence.

shinoff218343d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Alot of indies skip xbox to. It goes round and round. Personally I think your off base on that but no need to have the argument.

Friendlygamer43d ago

Between katana zero, valheim, Battletech, el passo... I don't feel off base. maybe ps got a million of light novel games that will never release on Xbox but like I've said, I'm talking about niche games highlights, the 10%.

  Heck, it's probably thanks to Microsoft that the s.t.a.l.k.e.r games came to console ps included, meanwhile Sony backwards compatibility continues to be extremely anemic.

And I'm sure most ps5 users are happy to ignore these games and just play wathever new 3rd person action game is trending but it's cool that Microsoft gives some love to smaller audiences and software preservation

shinoff218342d ago

Again your off base just to be snide. All it's showing though is your ignorance.

One light novels wtf is that even. Ps has plenty of pretty damn good indies.

Speaking of indies and ms being responsible. You know F.I.S.T. of course you do alot of you guys just support gamepass. Well here's a history of Sony being responsible for helping indies. Look up the China project from Sony.

Lastly lol your ignorance showing again. Sony has plenty of games. Personally third person is better then first anyway but that's besides the point. Sony gets so many games that xbox doesn't get because yall don't support the games. Jrpgs being a great example. I personally am not into every Sony first party game. Alot of us aren't. On the other side you don't get to eat often so you gobble up everything. Me personally God of War not my cup, etc. For me I'm into jrpgs and ms just can't touch Sony on those. Again because the Xbox base doesn't support it. Devs dont wanna waste their time or money. Hit me up when falcom develops a game over there.

Speaking of third person narrative games. Aren't yall drooling over hellblade 2. The first one was Sony exclusive at one point. Another not my cup game. Showing we don't have to fall in line and agree we love everything Sony puts out. The facts are they sell though unlike elsewhere(not nintendo)

StormSnooper42d ago

You are same person as GamerRN, yes?

Abnor_Mal43d ago

They really think PlayStation fans would want to play Redfall? Pfft.

Personally nothing on that list would be any game I’d want to play.

TwoPicklesGood43d ago

I’d absolutely love Hellblade 2, Palworld, and Quantum Break on ps5 as I’m sure tons of others would too. There’s nothing wrong with wanting games from another console and its sad that people try to act like they aren’t interested in them.

shinoff218342d ago

While indont agree with the games. I agree with the point. Your not wrong.

DarXyde43d ago

Sunset Overdrive makes very good sense. Palworld might.

Don't know about the others. Hellblade II does make sense given the original launched on PS4 first. Quantum Break was a massive letdown for me. I absolutely hated the whole TV show thing and I don't think anyone should have to relive that on modern hardware.

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Valve Made Left 4 Dead 2 Because The First Game Was A Broken Mess

Left 4 Dead lead Chet Faliszek describes the original Left 4 Dead game as "such a broken thing that nobody wanted to touch it."

Number1TailzFan155d ago

And then couldn't be arsed to make a third game.

If they can add a lot more stuff to a 2nd game in just 1 year why didn't they make a third game a few years later with tons of stuff extra? Because that shows they could've.

I know Source 2 was kind of broken and was a reason they cancelled L4D3 but it seems wasteful to just toss it away.

Don't know what Valve were thinking.. it's like nobody wanted to fix the issues to get going. They certainly aren't the Valve of 2004 that released fun games with pretty cutting edge graphics.

cthulhucultist153d ago

Valve is allergic to number 3 it seems. It would be easier for them to release a Left 4 Dead 2.5 enhanced version instead of releasing a game with "3" slapped on its title.

rakentaja152d ago

They stopped making games a long time ago. Steam brings in so much money that it's really not worth the effort. Nowadays, people only look for faults in games, and spend more time whining on Twitter/X than playing the game anyway. Valve says a big fat no-no.

anast153d ago

Value is the Blockbuster of video games. They have no need to invest in deving a game, when they can make handfuls of cash renting them.

-Foxtrot155d ago

What are they talking about? Seemed pretty alright to me at launch it just wasn't supported the way Valve promised us

They should have just worked on a revamp / massive update to the game but they didn't they jumped straight to a sequel with brand new characters despite having some sort, if small, story about where the original survivors were heading.

I didn't care for the direction they took the sequel, the original games tone and atmosphere was missing in the second game and is still unmatched. Daytime levels, more whackiness, melee weapons where you could attack a Tank with a frying pan...just wasn't the same to be honest and the new survivors just didn't hold up the originals.

Here's my speculation. I think they did a sequel because they didn't want to update a game co-developed by Turtle Rock, they wanted the franchise to be known as a Valve game only and knew if they updated the first one Turtle Rocks name would still linger on it.

shaenoide153d ago

I want broken games like L4D all day long...

GhostScholar153d ago

Well the first game was by far the best

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The Best Co-Op Horror Games You've Missed in Halloween

Try to cope with your friend through terror with this list featuring the best horror Co-Op games you can play today.

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