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GTA IV PC a buggy mess, Steam customers ask for refunds

It seems that the PC port of Grand Theft Auto IV is having some problems; the official forums are filled with people suffering from glitches, crashes, and graphical issues. Oh, my. How bad have things gotten? Gamers are reporting that Steam is actually offering refunds on a case-by-case basis.

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ElementX5621d ago (Edited 5621d ago )

Well, does Best Buy give refunds if you open a PC game and it's buggy? I don't believe you can get refunds for open merchandise. Because you are downloading a game from a service, there's nothing to "open", however I think that customers should be reading reviews and forums before they buy downloadable software.

I'm not sticking up for Rockstar, however their PC titles usually have issues from what I've read.

Pennywise5621d ago

I think games should work before going on sale. Call me old fashion.

WANNA GET HIGH5621d ago

Its offical GTA4 is the most over hyped game EVER.First people who bought it on consoles did it was too downgraded and not as fun as GTA3 now PC games say its buggy.I might never buy a GTA game again.I think R* has gotten to arogant because millions of people buy GTA every time it comes out.If GTA5 is not like GTA3 i am not buying it.

killalot1005621d ago

this reminds me of console gaming last gen. they had to have the game running as good as possible because there was no going back and none of that online patching crap. now most games release have some huge problem that needs to get patched right away and some times the patch makes things worser.

Perjoss5621d ago

"I think games should work before going on sale. Call me old fashion."

I think the last game to do this was Tetris on the original Gameboy. Maybe more companies should follow blizzards example: finish working on a game, and then test it for like a year :)

kevnb5621d ago (Edited 5621d ago )

there have been plenty of broken games since the atari days, atleast now they can patch them. I tend not to buy broken games though, and I tend not to remember them for all that long with the exception of a few games like Shaq Fu, ET, the first PS2 Tomb Raider etc...

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killalot1005621d ago

i was planning on getting this game but going to wait like i do with most pc games. this is getting worser and worser. this is a story that doesnt get much news, i understand that there are so many pc configs that no pc is ever the same. when a pc game released i feel like i am a beta tester and its bull. this is one big reason why pirating is so bad and was one reason why i pirated bioshock because the pirated version was the most stable one. i bought bioshock on steam for it to just crash so i pirated. i hate pirating games and i dont do it no matter what now but come on can this problem with pc gaming get more attention.

WANNA GET HIGH5621d ago

MGS4 says hi.That game was so polished its just insane.I did not have a single problem with the control and movement of snake,and the A.I was polished very well aswell.

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TheColbertinator5621d ago

Well I am not buying it for PC.I have never enjoyed a GTA game on PC.I feel bad for those who wanted to get the definitive PC version

TheIneffableBob5621d ago

It's really unfortunate since every other GTA for the PC has been pretty good. A little buggy, though the GTAs for the consoles were buggy too, but nowhere near as buggy as GTA IV.

locos855621d ago

GTA 4 is a huge disappointment. I hope GTA 5 brings me back to chaos happy days

kwyjibo5621d ago (Edited 5621d ago )

I disagree, but I can understand your point. The nod towards social realism that GTA IV offered was refreshing and bold, and I for one enjoyed it as did the majority of critics.

I can see that people just want some sandbox blasting. But you've got Saints Row, Crackdown and Just Cause to give you that. Isn't that enough?

locos855621d ago

I was happy with the game until I had to start keeping up my social status with most of the characters in the game. It became work. Take Roman to the strip club, the other guy to the boats, girlfriend to a date. It felt like it got in the way of havng fun. Game was good but that is what ruined it for me.

kwyjibo5621d ago

Yeah locos, actually agree with you on that bit. It's what annoyed me the most about San Andreas too, having to keep my muscle mass up and eat the right food etc.

If I wanted to play the Sims, I'd play the Sims.

THE_BATTLERAGER5621d ago

You can't rest on your laurels, so why are they doing it. I might download a torrent file of this just to spite them, they don't deserve my money for this.

(A little OT) Good old valve giving us refunds, now THERE'S a developer.
Steam is a vision of the future, I buy all the PC games on there I can, and often don't bother if it isn't on steam. I love it!

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies2h ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

CrimsonWing6913h ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker13h ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing6912h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt49m ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

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Mainline Grand Theft Auto trailers ranked from best to worst

As we have all been graced by the release of Grand Theft Auto 6's trailer, we're ranking the best and worst GTA trailers to date.

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purple101142d ago

We be getting these posts All week now lads. Someone noticed a number plate ... Someone noticed a billboard... I can see it now

Just go on YouTube and watch one of the many videos dissecting the whole 1minite 30secs worth.

This site supposed to be for news.

roadkillers141d ago

These updates on N4G are going to ruin whats rest of this site. Unfortunate since I was one of the first members.. The site shows unsecure when i login as well.

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Grand Theft Auto 4 Anniversary: The Beginning of the Age of RAGE

Grand Theft Auto 4 is an important game for Rockstar, not least because it was the first title in the franchise to use the newly created RAGE engine.

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franwex359d ago

Wasn’t the Table Tennis game the first to use RAGE?

isarai359d ago

Was about to say the same, but they do say first "in the franchise" so 🤷

cammers1995359d ago

The fact it hasnt been remastered is insane.

Abear21358d ago

Rage engine made driving on the sidewalk in cinematic slow motion camera a blast