Why Mario should retire

Jellzy - 469 days 11 hours ago

Like you i also understand what he's getting at, but Mario will always be the face of Nintendo, and aslong as Nintendo's around Mario will be right there with them.

Same applies to Sonic, and Sega.

Both Sony and Microsoft dont really have any 'Mascots' which for them is a good thing, as they dont need to rehash the same tried and tested games from generation to generation as Nintendo does with Mario.

Actually... Sony's closest im my eyes would be Crash, although some could argue the duo's of Jak & Daxter, and Ratchet & Clank. But then theres Sly also. I think ill keep to them not having one...

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Rich1631 - 469 days 10 hours ago

^Uh, Master Chief = Microsoft's mascot.

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Jellzy - 469 days 10 hours ago

Although the Master Chief is an iconic character for Microsoft, such as Snake and Kratos etc are for Sony, thats exactly what they are Icons.

When we talk about Mario, Sonic and (for me) Crash etc, as Iconic as they also are, they are Mascots for there given brand. I use Mascot in the sense that they represent there brand, but they stick with us throughout our gaming history, and also appeal to a broader generation in particular kids ie. Sackboy be next for Sony, especially as the game is going appeal to the younger generation (Not that it wont for this, or older).

The Master Chief, Snake, Kratos etc don't really fall under the category of Mascot IMO. But i see why others would see otherwise.

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CaptainHowdy - 469 days 7 hours ago

When he came out he was middle age, 20years later he's still at it....time to cash in social security

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kevnb - 469 days 10 hours ago

DMC4 has a horrible story... the gameplay is outdated as well. I mean it is still a pretty fun game, but don't go making such stupid comments. How does Sony own snake? Snake has appeared on xbox, pc, Gamecube and Wii. Sonys characters are, everyone from Twisted Metal, Kratos, Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Dexter, Nathan Hale, and there are others but these are the big ones for now.

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SpaZaA - 469 days 10 hours ago

I agree those characters are Sony reps, but mascots?, nope. Ratchet and Clank and Crash are more akin to mascots, however didn't reach the appeal to make people immediately think "Playstation".

All of those can be put aside however for one thing. That is Sackboy.
Sony wants Sackboy as their mascot, they are levering him to be their mascot and it's very possible he will be.

I see a mascot as appealing to the entire audience, young, old, male, and female. Snake, Kratos etc don't have broad appeal (no pun intended). Sackboy already appeals to the entire audience and this is before the game has even come out. Sony wants LBP to be it's flagship franchise. I think Sony has it's mascot and one that can compete with Mario.

Master Cheif is a great rep as well, but like Kratos, Snake and the likes, he's not a "mascot" in my opinion.

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Jellzy - 469 days 10 hours ago

lol SpaZaA, i just replied the exact same thing a few comments up, but yeah i agree with you.

Characters such as the Master Chief, Snake, Kratos etc. are iconic, but don't spread across all generations.

Put it like this.. You ask almost any1 in your family who Snake, Kratos, and the Master Chief are, you'll most likely get scratching heads all around the room, unless ofcourse they have played the games, or you have told them. Do the same with Mario, and Sonic and you'll at least get some sort of answer.

That to me is what makes them the Mascots of there respective Brand.

Hence why Microsoft don't have one, and Sony's closest is Crash Bandicoot (even though he's useless nowadays), with the soon to be Sackboy making his global entrance.

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SpaZaA - 469 days 10 hours ago

Holy crap man, that is an insanely similar mindset we have.
freaky.

Cheers man. Do you think Sackboy might actually have the staying power and mass appeal for Sony?

On the topic of Mario, he will never retire unless Nintendo does. But I do feel Nintendo needs to have a few more IPs. Whoring out Mario to any and every game good or bad is not a good idea. Keep the gems for Mario, give tho games you aren't sure will be amazing to Kirby or something lol.

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Jellzy - 469 days 10 hours ago

lol tell me about it, the long lost bro i never had!!

Anyway.. Yeah i feel that Sony is gearing up LBP to be a massively appealing as possible so that they can shift hardware aswell as software and reel in those elusive casual gamers, that seem too have shifted from the PS2 to the PS3.

If all this goes to plan then i feel that we'll be seeing alot of Sackboy for years to come.

He's not exactly the easiest character to whore out (Points @ Mario) either due to the fact he in many ways represents open ended user content that LBP is set to deliver.

In terms of the Nintendo i think there saving grace in terms of the growing amounts of poor quality software will eventually be ignored when the likes of Pikmin 2 etc are finally released. But ofcourse new IP's would also do them wonders, as they have realied far too heavily on the like's of Mario to get them through there sales. Yes it may have worked this time, but were left playing the same games that were popular on the SNES, N64, and Gamecube on with better visuals and better controls. Its almost inevitable that Nintendo will release a new Mario Kart, Mario (adventure game), Smash Bro's etc. How about surprising us for once?

p.s. Poor Kirby :D

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kevnb - 469 days 10 hours ago

i would too if I was a console maker.

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sack_boi - 469 days 8 hours ago

Mario's bigger than any console exclusive

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