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Killzone, And Why A Great Series Is One That Ends

Bagogames: It's not how you start but how you finish that truly matters. Evidenced by the fact that the Mass Effect 3 ending, in many people's opinion, could have potentially undermined the overall standard of the trilogy. But hey, at least it finished unlike some franchises...

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Akuma-4383d ago (Edited 4383d ago )

Killzone games on ps3 proves how amazing and powerful the ps3 is. The killzone story-line is amazing and can use some more explaining in campaign for the games but the games are well done and above most games of its genre.

Joegrine204383d ago

nah i didnt like the story. buh d gameplay experience was excellent. and thats why i finished it bout 3 times.

sinncross4383d ago

What could be interesting is a game from the Helghan perspective... and if they want to rpice it up make it a 3rd person with the same sort of weight the characters have in the normal KZ series.

Either way I like the series, but that does not stop me from saying that while KZ2 is one of the best FPS I have ever played, KZ3 is really mediocre.

shammgod4383d ago

I like the idea of doing this from a helghast perspective.

Tdmd4382d ago

And I like the idea of doing this from a third-person perspective. :D

pumpkinlord454383d ago

I feel as if the series needs to rest in peace. The problem is that they keep on working on more games and the series will sooner or later will loose it's charm. All games follow this same path. Most of the time.

ginsunuva4383d ago

Actually, Killzone is a series that that wouldn't fit a trilogy format. I think it needs 5 games to cover all it has to offer.

Resistance, even though it has a better story, is a series that would've been a perfect 3-game saga (with one psp game). But Insomniac screwed up the third game and made it about rednecks in the USA. The third game should've been Jame Grayson uncovering the truth about the Chimera in Russia, as hinted in the after-credits scene of Resistance Retribution.
Same with Halo. Should've stayed a trilogy. Maybe Reach added for backstory. ODST and 4,5,6 need to disappear somehow.

MySwordIsHeavenly4383d ago

You're kidding me, right? Resistance 3 was, by far, the best game in the series...

opoikl4383d ago

Gameplay-wise, R3 is probably the most well-achieved and certainly most fun FPS I ever experienced on Playstation. Taking headshots with the Marksman for example is an incredible feeling that is unparalleled in the world of console shooters. It's like the Timesplitters of this gen. And I haven't even mentioned all the brilliantly designed weapons, the engrossing particle effects and gore. I would even dare to state that while there are lots of good FPS'ers this gen, R3's gameplay will prolly suffer the least from aging.

Kalowest4383d ago

The story-line for the KZ series is terrible, but KZ2 is the best out of the 3 so far. KZ3 was too fast pace, and it lost the weighty feel.

MySwordIsHeavenly4383d ago

It lost the weighty feel because everyone hated it...including myself. It didn't make it "unique". It just made it sluggish.

Hicken4383d ago

Everyone DID NOT hate it. I, for one, loved it. It gave the game an identity that STILL separates it from all the other shooters out there, among other things(like spawn grenades and the class setup).

As for the story, it was nothing special, but nor was it horrible. It was really just an excuse to engage in amazing battles with an amazing enemy on an amazing planet.

Denethor_II4383d ago

I used a sharpshooter with move which changed the game for me. Great game.

miyamoto4382d ago

Don't forget Uncharted series shares that accolade too.

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smashcrashbash4383d ago

Strange how sequels on the PlayStation always seem to trigger the 'enough is enough' conversations and everything else just seems to go unnoticed.

metsgaming4383d ago

yea really, its not surprising though. There is no way the killzone series is over based off of the end of three.

Bagogames4383d ago (Edited 4383d ago )

I'm of the opinion that if your franchise is over ten years old you have to have an 'end' in sight. Killzone doesn't need to die just yet, but the end of Killzone 3 might as well have ended with 'to be continued.'

The point is that in order to really mean something there has to be a beginning and an end. In terms of Killzone that means peace; no more war, no more talking and no more Rico.

If they were to just fight constantly for another five games the validity of the franchise will be for naught, because no matter how hard your characters fought the good fight there would be no end in sight. See my point?

Outside_ofthe_Box4383d ago (Edited 4383d ago )

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We need a TRUE sequel to Killzone 2(Multiplayer-wise). I really don't care about the SP all that much, but there is not way in hell should KZ3 be the last title with that horrible multiplayer.

I have no problem with the next Killzone game being the last as long as the MP is as good or better than KZ2's MP.

Bagogames4383d ago

Yeah that's what I'm saying. I'm happy for there to be another two or three games so long as Guerilla plan to end it somewhere.

The only title I see doing this well is God of War. Because they have their 'end' but there is still more fun to be had with the 'beginning' of the franchise. Where as you have Halo, which 'ended' with 3 and is now on 4. Where will that end? When will the Chief have his end and when will the war truly end?

Joegrine204383d ago

anybody realise the mario party picture? lol so bright O_O

Bagogames4383d ago

That's how they lure you in O.O

[ It's how we lured you in too... ]

StayStatic4382d ago

Exactly what I was thinking

Fylus4383d ago

Bagogames pretty much answered that question lol.

Ajoyshop4383d ago

I'm wondering the same thing...

Neoprime4383d ago

They maybe sneak dissing for more color?

pumpkinlord454383d ago

Very interesting article. I completely agree.

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Mass Effect 3's Ending for Javik Misses the Forest for the Trees

Based on one narratively fitting ending in Mass Effect 3, Prothean squadmate Javik is highly unlikely to return in the next Mass Effect game.

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anast68d ago

He was one of my least favorite characters. I wish they would have done the Proths different.

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The Best Video Games That Feature Canada

This Canada Day, explore our homeland with the best video games that have adapted or reimagined the Great White North in digital form.

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The Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy Deserves a Remaster

Final Fantasy 13 was first introduced to us back in 2009, almost four years after Final Fantasy 12 was released, and fans had been eagerly anticipating the next installment. But when it finally arrived, there were mixed reactions, including complaints about its linearity, the lack of towns and NPCs, and the limited control over the characters. At the time, Square Enix kept its game production behind closed doors and didn't take in a lot of feedback — especially from Western fans.

The game has been revisited by many different Final Fantasy fans since then, and some, like myself, have come to love it again. Almost all staple entries in the series have found their way to modern consoles, so it's about time that the FF13 trilogy gets a remaster

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shinoff2183347d ago

I've been thinking about this. I agree. While I really disliked it at first I never played it again. After hating ff15 so damn much I just think it can't be worse then 15 and if I'm not mistaken atleast it's turn based. I need more of that in my life.

nitus10347d ago

I actually finished FFXIII and on the second playthrough found I actually liked the game.

Actually I have liked most of the FF games (I have not played FFIX unfortunately) and I do agree with you with regards to FFXV. Graphically IMHO FFXV is excelent but for some reason I just could not get enthusiastic in playing it.

As for "turn-based", I prefer active and real time although to be fair "turn-based" is a real plus especially when confronting a difficult protagonist. I found this to be especially the case when playing FFXXII where you could switch rapidly between "turn" and "active" although having a resonable knowledge of simple Boolean Algebra is IMHO essential when playing this game.

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Levii_92346d ago

Ridiculous comment, first of all i think you should replay 15, second of all that game is 10 times better than the XIII games especially the royal edition. And third .. turn based combat is a dying (almost dead) style of gameplay and i personally wont miss it at all so don’t act like that is some sort of big plus because XIII has it.. it is not.

jambola346d ago

Somebody needs to learn about subjective taste

shinoff2183346d ago

Ff15

Sucked imo. I don't need to give it another try. Last time was the 3rd time and I had 34 hours into it. It just wasn't good imo

Chriswynnetbh346d ago

How is turn based dying or almost dead? Pokémon is one of the biggest RPGs in the world and is and has always been turn based. To some it is a plus especially when it comes to FF since the first 10 of them all are and are arguably better games than any FF to come after

CDbiggen346d ago

XV was rubbish, but understandable given the development hell. That overworld for me is the biggest example, so strangely designed and empty. And parts of the story awkwardly cut for DLC, most egregious being that prompto part where he's like "I'm a clone", or whatever he was (it was that forgettable), and the other guys basically shrugging it off.

Tapani346d ago (Edited 346d ago )

Turn-based is alive and well: Pokemon, Dragon Quest, XCom, Civilization, Homeworld, Age of Wonders, Total War, Original Sin, Baldur's Gate, Warhammer, Yu-Gi-Oh, Company of Heroes, Wasteland, Pathfinder, Disco Elysium, Octopath Traveler, Chained Echoes and many, many more great games, both new and old, franchises and new IPs are selling well, reviewing well and sequels are coming.

If you don't play the game, maybe the turn-based has just died in/for you, but certainly the genre has never been so alive as in 2023! Plus, when you look at Final Fantasy franchise, it started going down in quality when it left turn-based combat behind. FFXVI may redeem some of the glory (and FFXIV was great), but the turn-based games were higher rated and deeper in terms of gameplay and had more interesting things to do in the world.

DarXyde346d ago

I'd say Persona 5 is one of the best of the best games in a couple of decades.

I don't think you manage that with a dying gameplay format.

shinoff2183346d ago (Edited 346d ago )

Levii92

Turn based is way funner imo then just some hack n slash rpg. I like both but prefer turn based.

Far as dying I doubt it. It's also kinda funny cause the best final fantasy have been turn based. Ff still to this day can't top ff6 through ff9. Interesting.

Far as someone who brought up persona 5. I dislike the art style so I've yet to play it but I'd throw dq11 in there. Best jrpg I've played in fkin years. Over a decade.

Last I was a bit iffy on chained echoes because of the sp and no traditional leveling system. I recently bought it. Looks gorgeous, story is fantastic so far, but I cannot for the life of me get over how much I truly hate the leveling system. It's just flat out whack to me. I'm still going to finish it cause unlike ff15 atleast chained echoes doesn't feel like a chore

goldwyncq345d ago

The XIII series (especially Lightning Returns) has far better combat than XV, and you don't need to watch an anime and a movie to make sense of the story.

FinalFantasyFanatic345d ago (Edited 345d ago )

15 was only fun for derping about in the wilderness, at least FF13 had a better story and was more coherent overall (plot, characters, gameplay, world, ect...).

15 was just beautify garbage, so much wasted potential, the Duke Nukem Forever of the FF franchise.

I really loved Persona 5, can't wait for P6 to be announced, I'd love ports of the first few games (we already have P3P/P4G/P5R available on almost everything now).

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sadraiden345d ago

People act like XV killed one of their family members. It wasn't the best FF ever, but it certainly wasn't a bad game. You "hated it so damn much"? Chill.

FinalFantasyFanatic345d ago

I agree, FF13 is better than FF15, but I don't think I can play through that trilogy again, I'd rather play one of the older games.

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-Foxtrot346d ago

Not really

Let them move on and focus on good FF games

Hofstaderman346d ago (Edited 346d ago )

Thank you. A ton of FFXIII articles recently. Most of the people who like this game are not old enough to have played 4 to 9. Even 10 and 12 are vastly superior to this game. That being said a remaster would then make all the FF titles available on the PS platform.

jambola346d ago

Citation needed
Do you have some kind of official survey of ff 13 fans ages?
Would love a link
Also, all games are available on multiple systems, re released many times
"Not old enough" doesn't even make much sense

shinoff2183346d ago (Edited 346d ago )

That was part of what I was trying to say. I've gave 15 3 try ff13 deserves atleast a second. And like I said I could use some turn based in my life

I've also played through or played all of the ff games starting with ff1 way way way back.

goldwyncq345d ago

"Good" is subjective. I love FFIX but I know many fans who don't like it for the art style and the slow combat.

I_am_Batman346d ago (Edited 346d ago )

Recently replayed them and I agree a remaster would be great. The complaints about linearity are fair, but they only really apply to the first half of the first game and while I agree that it would've been nice to have proper towns, minigames and subquests, it didn't detract from the intriguing story, interesting characters, tactical gameplay and amazing soundtrack in my opinion.

XIII-2 fixes a lot of the issues of XIII and expands on the story in interesting ways. The combat and progression builds on top of the systems of XIII and the nonlinearity and discoverability of secrets is a big inprovement over the original game. It's easily the best game of the trilogy.

Lightning Returns was probably a bit too experimental for it's own good. It tried to reinvent the wheel for no reason. The solo party for most of the game and the outfit based combat felt like a downgrade over XIII-2 combat system. It does have a unique vibe, but the plot kinda goes off the rails and many of the story beats didn't land as much for me as they did in the first two games. The race against time aspect was an interesting idea, but it never felt like it mattered, because it wasn't much of a challenge to manage the remaining time even while doing all the subquests.

Eonjay346d ago

XIII-2 is one of the greatest games ever.

Snookies12346d ago (Edited 346d ago )

XIII-2 is by far the best of the trilogy. Went out of my way to get the Platinum trophy on it. Which is actually a fun one to go for. Didn't take too long, only about 70-80 hours to accomplish. Loved every second of it though.

Youngindy21346d ago

I don't think linearity is a fair critique, when every FF up until that point was fairly linear esp. in the first half of the game. People herald FF VII(including the remake), but it is just as linear as FFXIII was. The linearity complaints came at a time when open-world games were just starting to become a thing and people thought every game should be open-world, but now that every game is, people now want more linear experiences. Go Figure.

shinoff2183346d ago

Ff10 was pretty linear to. Haven't played through all of 13 but 10 was linear as fk until the end

I_am_Batman346d ago

Totally agree. I never fully understood why 10 was so universally praised when it had many of the same design philosophies xiii is criticized for.

CDbiggen346d ago (Edited 346d ago )

I felt the same for the most part except the LR combat system. I thought it was an upgrade on the party of three system the previous two games had as now you had more control over your moves with different sets being an L1/R1 click away, and could move the single character around in battle and attack limbs or tails of certain enemies, or reduce the distance between you and an enemy you're after saving ATB.

I_am_Batman346d ago

LR combat certainly has it's merits. I would've preferred it if it wasn't tied to the costumes which can make Lightning look quite ridiculous and out of place sometimes though.

But mainly I would've preferred to see an evolution of XIII-2 systems. Since they are so different it's obviously just a preference. Can't really compare them objectively.

CDbiggen346d ago

Yeah I get ya, and I can totally see why the costume part got to people. I'm someone that doesn't care what the character looks like as long as I'm happy with the stats (looking at Xenoblade). LR to me is just one of those odd games that I can't help respect for mixing things up, even if the outcome wasn't the best lol. But yeah too different to compare.

sadraiden345d ago

Why would a remaster be great? They exist in HD, on a console that is still compatible with modern televisions, and you just replayed it.

I_am_Batman345d ago

I replayed them on my PS3. I just think it would make sense for those games to be more accessible to Playstation gamers, which is where the majority of the modern FF fanbase is (due to the exclusivity deals of VII Re and XVI).

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gold_drake346d ago

yes.
remaster collection.

not sure why the hell we never got one.

sadraiden345d ago

Just dying to give SE money for nothing eh?

gold_drake345d ago

i enjoyed the games.
so it wouldn't be for "nothing".

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