Could the Playstation Vita Handle Call of Duty: Black Ops 2

From the PlanetPSX feature editorial:

"The PlayStation Vita may not have the strongest of sales numbers right now, but you guys need to understand, when it comes to sales numbers, sometimes it’s about the longevity, not what you sell in the first couple of months. Just take a look at the Nintendo 3DS. It had the slowest start out of any of the handhelds, but Nintendo stuck by it, and now it’s flourishing with a decent amount of games, both retail and downloadable. The PS Vita will reach that point."

[LaurenKB123]

I know I would get it for sure... plus some cool touch screen additions - go Activision go!

[MasFlowKiller]

I have not been impressed by a Call of Duty engine since Modern Warfare 1, Even with the 2 Team 2 year cycle I dont think the COD engine is pushing any boundaries 4 years after Modern Warfare 1

[Peppino7]

If the vita can run battlefield 3 then it could def run black ops2.

[princejb134]

mw2 engine was better than mw1

[Soldierone]

I'll buy it too! Go ahead and restrict the graphics a little like Mortal Kombat, its COD I don't buy it for the visuals.....I just want it on Vita because that would be MASSIVE for it.

[thePatriot]

with few tweaks in graphics, a ps1 could run BO 2

[JellyJelly]

A mid-range smartphone could probably run it on full settings lol.

[NnT3291]

I would pay to see how you "tweak" the Ps1 lol. I know Cod graphics are nothing special but last gen consoles cant run it. On topic, I think the Vita could handle BO2 at 30-50 Fps

[Horny]

The Wii is practically a last gen console spec wise and it can run it with dumbed down graphics. Vita can run launch quality Ps3 visuals so yes it could run call of duty.

[fatstarr]

Ps2 can run cod4 so can the wii on a modified engine. even the DS had some sort of cod.

im pretty sure with tweeks the 3DS could run it same with the vita.

anyphone thats more powerful than a wii can run it.

[Play2Win]

the vita has the best tech form a technical standpoint. look at the dynamic shadows in goldy abyss. only the aliasing in uncharted isnt optimal. but cod could be done on vita.

edit: technical standpoint according to potable machins of course ;)

[chriski333]

Let's see a new 2012 hand held power house? Can it play a OLD build 2007 engine? Yea Im sure it can come ppl don't give this game any hope

[zeddy]

dont matter if it could handle it, you cant play multiplayer at work or on the bus.

[NYC_Gamer]

PSV should be able to handle Black Ops 2 since the engine isn't really hardware demanding

[metsgaming]

exactly the vita has more power than it needs, we are talking about COD here. whether they take the time to learn the system or just do a lazy port is another thing.

[kevnb]

Should, but black ops could barely run on ps3 to the point where they lowered the res even more than the already sub 720p they use. Treyarch can find a way to make it not work.

[Solid_Snake37]

@kevnb

That was out of purely laziness from treyarch, shody optimization. There were even rumors back in 2010 that it was on purpose.

[realiks]

Even Tetris can handle COD games.

[GraveLord]

You do know Tetris is a video game right? It's not a console.

Leave it to a COD hater to be so misinformed.

[realiks]

I meant tetris as a handheld:
http://media.lunch.com/d/d7...

[Hicken]

Leave it to a CoD fanboy to get upset over a joke.

And Tetris DOES exist as a standalone handheld (as in liks' picture) like a Tiger electronics tyle game.

Guess I shouldda said, "Leave it to a CoD fanboy to be misinformed."

[pacosanchez88]

haha good one. made me laugh, even as a cod player. not cod fanboy

[solid_si]

Well i admit COD is getting shiiter after every iteration but BF is even shiter. Slow paced, anti fast gameplay and anti run and gun. I hope i havent offended BF Fanboys.

Shooters suppoosed to be about fun...fast paced action. Timplitters was the greatest shooter ever. Bring back Timesplitters and all these Fockers(COD)and Nerd Gays(BF) fanboys can learn from a real FUN shooter that is simply FUN.

[MEsoJD]

Plus it will be running on a much smaller resolution. They can probably make it almost indistinguishable from the console version if they actually try to put out a quality port.

[UltimaEnder]

I doubt it....

[hiptanaka]

Question mark.

[Paradicia]

At 60 fps? No chance.

Optimised for the PSPs native res? Possibly, at a locked framerate.

Obviously the game wouldn't look like the 360/PS3 versions but it would hold it's own as a portable game.

What's wrong with what I said? If you're gonna disagree at least have to courage to explain why.

[dark-hollow]

ok, here i will explain it.
cod on PSVITA is very possible to be 60FPS because it will runs on the vita native resolution which is 960x544 which is a lot lower than the usual 1040x600 that is on previous cod games.

if the ipad 3 (which have the same gpu as the vita) could run games like these at a very high 2048x1536 resolution:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

then the vita can run cod at it native resolution without any problem. (and besides, they have the same gpu but the vita cpu is much powerful)

[Paradicia]

@ Darkhollow

I never said that the vita couldn't run it, hence why I said "Optimised for the PSPs native res? Possibly, at a locked framerate."

There would be obvious sacrifices because of its portability. I'm in no way trying to downplay it's specs here, I'm just stating the obvious.

I'm more interested in the differences if it was to be compared to it's console counterpart which will happen eventually down the line and how it will play.

[BubloZX]

Actually the vita's gpu is more powerful then the IPAD's as well because it was specially customized for sony hence the reasin for the + at the end of the gpu's name.

BUt anyway the vita also has and extra 128mb ram then the ps3 so features like cross game chat are highly likely as well. but if the wii can run black ops then the Vita can kill it. And since black ops 2 is goning to be running on the same engine then black ops 2 will be easy too.

@MiLKJDO
look at some of the ps3 ports for vita and tell me if things were lost. From whats been going on as of late the Vita's actually been the one getting all of the extra content. remeber everthing will be scaled down for the vita without losing anything.

[Ascalon94]

just trolls, don't worry about them.

[Solid_Snake37]

Wow please tell me about all the games you developed on your life to make that kind of statement.

[Solid_Snake37]

Sorry I was replying to milkjdo

[3GenGames]

I have developed games for NES, and have been programming for a while in many languages, especially lower level ones. Vita can eat the big console version of any COD game, no question.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

So why are you even talking about the PSP then? It's a Vita article.

[Paradicia]

So by that logic calling an xbox 360 an 'xbox' negates the meaning of the brand to the past tense.

[DigitalAnalog]

I don't know man. I look at Uncharted: GA and Resistance so I don't think it's entirely impossible what dark-hollow is suggesting. On top of that, the system is no longer "difficult" to develop for which would no doubt be easier to port a bit in a smaller resolution at least.

[Slapshot82]

Mortal Kombat run at 60 FPS online on Vita. ;)

[one2thr]

@Milk
Dude MGS4 ran on the Vita in an UNOPTIMIZED state, and it took the developers less than a week to port it to the Vita... So in other words don't underestimate the power of the Vita good sir... now good day

[KwietStorm_BLM]

That response makes absolutely no sense, it's completely off topic, has no correlation to what I said, and you still haven't answered why you're talking about PSP native resolution in a Vita article, asking if a game can run on the Vita, not the PSP. You almost make it sound like you don't know they are 2 different systems. Is there some hidden message in what you're trying to say?

[Denethor_II]

My arse could run any COD game.

[AnotherProGamer]

The N64 can handle black ops 2 lol

[FIZZYVIMTO]

It could probably handle a stripped back version of the game, something like what EA did with FIFA 12

[labaronx]

we've already seen vita version of similar games with modified ps3/360 engines....

mlb 12 vita is based of mlb 12 ps3
fifa 12 vita
mortal kombat vita
metal gear solid vita
ultimate marvel vs capcom

these games have all been ported over with minimal sacrifice so far.....

i'd prefer something from scratch myself....

[cmpunk53]

If the wii can handle the first black ops then why cant the vita? Look at mortal kombat, sure it looks nothing like it's console version but with the awesome gameplay and a little bit more it comes out even better. Whatever activision has in store with vita own cod, I do hope it will turn out good since the vita is a very capable in terms of shooters and it will be a shame if the result is a sucky one.

[dark-hollow]

lol you call this handling?
http://bulk.destructoid.com...

[Ken22]

Hmm i see no difference between that or the other versions on the PS3,360,and PC XDD.

[cmpunk53]

As long as the vita will retain the awesome gameplay and multiplayer then it's all good to me. I could care less if it will look like that or the same as ps3's graphics.

[KiLLeRCLaM]

it says BlackOpsWii-620x.jpg

[SaffronCurse]

I hope they announce a vita version at e3

[xtreampro]

Without a doubt yes!

[Kran]

With CoD's engine, even the Wii could handle it. ¬¬

[Ascalon94]

CoD4 HD, lets get it Activision.

[extermin8or]

look uncharted golden abyss looked amazing for a handheld game, unit 13 looked good, resistance doesn't look as good but still looks good, obviously the graphics would take a slight hit from the consoles but it wouldn't be as noticeable as the resolution is lower; if developed properly I think the vita could handle it and the lazy dev issue shouldn't be so much of an issue from my understanding the PSV architecture is more like a PC etc and therefore easier to programme for; than the CELL in the ps3....

[Slapshot82]

Mortal Kombat has proved that not only can they cram the entire game into a Vita cartridge, but a few extras along the way. Sure, it'll take a small graphical drop, but I'll take my Black Ops II on Vita. That way I can get my gaming on, and not seclude myself to another room for hours on end. :)

[Soldierone]

They can jam 64GB into the tiny memory card, I don't see why the storage in the cartridges would be an issue anyways :P

I saw a Micro Flash drive, about the size of your fingernail, that has tons of storage on it too. The game cartridges are larger and Games sitting at 10 to 15 Gigs at most....

[SandwichHammock]

Wow, I'm a big Sony fan but some of the comments here and the disagree button crowd are just delusional and quite frankly fan boyish to the power of ten.

Its real simple. Using the current engine which is a big mix of tech but the foundation being ID Tech 3, it could NOT be ported to the PSV. As much as people hate to admit it, mostly because of whatever type of hate they have towards COD, the engine used is a very solid piece of tech requiring quite a bit of crunching power. It does what it does, all while remaining at 60fps.

What would need to happen, is a completely dedicated engine for the PSV would have to be made and then all the assets converted and transferred over. So you would have BO2 running on it, with all the same content but different tech running the whole thing.

Taking Mortal Kombat as an example, the PSV seems to have some unique handling issues. The game looks absolutely great in my opinion, as long as you're at the normal POV, but as soon as it does close ups, it looks like donkey balls. This is attributed to how much the UNREAL engine needed to be modified to run on it, which appears to have resulted in the removal of texture scaling: I don't know if this is a 1.limitation of the hardware 2.not enough time in developement 3. limitation of the engine (trying to run on this hardware). I think its a combination of 2 and 3.

At least that is the way I see it.

[Soldierone]

You don't need a new engine....saying that is like saying you need a brand new engine to work on every console....you just convert it to work with that console. If otherwise how is UE3 ported to everything so well? Your example isn't an issue with the engine, its an issue with the developer holding certain things back so it runs fine on the PSV (the PSV can't render super high textures and models like a console, so they tell the engine to tone things down). Which is fine. It could have been tweaked and better optimized, but its still early in the game to figure that stuff out.

ID Tech 5 wasn't made for PSV because it wasn't out yet, yes, but it just needs to be converted to work with the PSV (which has a rather simplistic architecture to work with so its not that big of a deal)

If you give the game an entire new engine, that means it won't work with the current game and not be cross platform capable, which destroys the entire purpose for people like me. We don't want a piece of crap game with Black Ops 2 slapped on the box that also releases on Wii, we want BLACK OPS 2 period.

[one2thr]

@Sand
Once again the developers ported MGS4 onto the Vita to demostrate its power, and they did it within a week and it ran in an UNOPTIMIZED data state... So which game is more demanding in console power COD(Which is a multiplat) or MGS4(Which was an exclusive title only capable on one console)??

[irishyort]

That above coupled with the fact that there isn't a hell of alot happening in the background in Morty. Calculations are basically minimal for the CPU and GPU in an arcade fighting game when compared to something as complex as a FPS.

I would love the thing to run on my Vita as a fully blown console matching release, but it just wont happen. Imagine with all that going on in the CPU and GPU trying to keep up with everything, the battery would be dead in no time.

Unless reveiws dump on it, I will be getting this no matter what sort of game it turns out to be. But just not getting any hopes up for it being at PS3/360 level.

[h311rais3r]

It would be hacked within 2 weeks and activision would stop patching. But yes it would. No doubt. Cod is nowhere near demanding. "mw3 on my pc OVER 300 fps!" so obviously vita can handle it at a lower resolution...what a dumb question

[WeskerChildReborned]

I'm pretty sure the Vita can handle COD.

[Jason143]

vita can ahndle cod engines. they arent that heavy

[parasit3]

This is a pathetic question to a PC user.

[ElementX]

What's the point? The screen is small so a FPS would have draw distance issues. Everything would be so tiny in the background that it would be impossible to see.

[kikizoo]

Yeah sure, you probably don't have a vita..

the screen is huge, and you are playing at 15 inch max from it (by the way, this + the fact oled screen is really sharp = you can see more details, aliasing, etc than home console, for the same graphics)

LOL@effect0 new Xtroll multiaccount, dowplaying vita's power and more funny, ps3 power (implying xbox is equal, or roflmao/more powerfull @ delusional.com) and snashy talking about shitty little joysticks : better than xbox's one (don't even talk about ds)

[ElementX]

I've played a Vita. The screen is large for a handheld, but I'm talking about objects in the distance. If you take a large picture and reduce the size to 5" details in the background will be less noticeable. Now say you're playing a large map, on a TV an enemy in the distance may be 1" tall, on a 5" screen he'd be tiny.

[DigitalAnalog]

In that case, Killzone and Resistance Vita titles are DOA.

[Tristanh82]

I think about 50% people on N4G think there game developers the way they talk about the hardware and software. There is no point arguing if it would run or not or if the resolution is high or low. you wouldn't have a fraking clue. stick to the thumb stick

[Der_Kommandant]

Even a Game Boy can handle Call of Duty

[theeg]

vita games will look better than ps3 games in a few years...so yeah...it can totally handle it

[erivera1994]

3DS got out of the slump by lowering their price, not for the games that came out for it. Sony needs to do the same with Vita and they will see more sales, of course that probably wont happen for a while.

[TheDivine]

Yes but not the same as the 360 or ps3 version. Maybe with lowered effects, less going on, and lesser graphics. The vita is strong for a handheld but the best looking games like unit 13 and golden abyss arent close to ps3 games although they good on a small screen. Im sure it would be great though, id buy black ops 2 on vita.

[TheDareDevil]

Maybe, but not at 60fps I think

[coojo]

who wants this shit anyways its cod.

[Tundra]

About 20+ million possible consumers from its fanbase.

[units]

But expect low rez textures and bad framerate

[Young_ART]

Could the Xbox 360 handle Final Fantasy 7?

[EffectO]

Handle as PC?
Nope.

Handle as 360?
Nope

Handle as PS3?
Still nope.

Game will be there but people that expect HD console graphics will be dissapointed.People mention MK Vita but that game looks like a PS2 game.
Vita is nowhere near as powerful as HD consoles/Sony wants people to believe.

[MasterCornholio]

I know what you mean. For example when Capcom announced that Revelations would look the same as a 360 game then they released a ton of bullshots to make people believe that absurd claim. Then when the game came out it looked nowhere as good as a 360 game mainly due to the texture quality and polygon count.

I hate it when developers and console manufacturers promise something that is way above the hardware capabilities of the devices that they make. But with that aside I still enjoy my Vita games even though they are not at the same level as PS3 titles.

XperiaRay

[fullmetal297]

According to beyond3d, which is a very creditable source, alot of the games for the vita such as Uncharted and Unit 13 are running below the native resolution of the PS Vita and lack any AA. One of the exclusive titles Wipeout has been cut to 30 frames on the PS vita and I know the game runs at 30 frames because I own the game and a Vita.

This primarily due to the PS Vita's GPU being downclocked to save battery life which is probably the biggest bottleneck for the Vita. The base clock will most likely go up when the next revision of the PS Vita comes around. The next latest revision will probably run a 22nm process.

Note: Before you PS fanboys thumbs me down for this "anti-Sony" commment, at least give me a constructive respond.

[DigitalAnalog]

I thumb you down because you are trying to instigate an unnecessary remark by placing a target on yourself.

My suggestion, wait till the actual response happens and judge whether or not it validates the thumbs you so desperately need to predict.

[Jazz4108]

Anything would play better than the ps3 version of bo I would hope but then again we are talking about the vita.

[Tristanh82]

I just want Zombies

[HellzAssassin]

Although Call Of Duty is very stale to me and I hadn't purchased any since MW2. I only bought CoD4 & MW2 anyways and I don't plan on purchasing Black Ops 2, but I certainly wouldn't mind a CoD release on Vita...