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Square-Enix Will Work With Microsoft If There's "Merit"

Kotaku writes: Square Enix boss Yoichi Wada. Highlights include:

"If there is a merit cooperating with Microsoft we will do this. We might give some projects to separate studios and make games for the X360. The main platforms for Square Enix are the Nintendo platforms and the PS3. The lion-share of the developers and our infrastructure as well as our capital is for NDS, Wii and PS3, and this is not going to change... We are astonished by Wii's success and the Nintendo dominance. We thought that the PS3 and the Wii will coexist due to the difference between both strategies, but in the end the users will decide which platform we develop on. The SCE platforms at this point are a bit of a challenge... We think we can do much on the Wii. I talked to Iwata to exploit many possibilities and cheer him on."

poos35966d ago

reminder to square enix the 360 + microsfot does not need you ,you need the microsft and the 360 ok good happy u got that

Real gamer 4 life5966d ago

i guess this confirms it star ocean 4, exclusive for the ps3.

JasonPC360PS3Wii5966d ago

I smell tears poopy pants and a fit.

v1c1ous5966d ago

and c*ckteasing xbots as well

"we are concentrating on ps3, but if there is one thing you can't argue is that 360 owners buy games"

pre-christmas 2007 "i'm wondering if sony can keep it together, but i wouldn't put my cards on wii since people are buying it as more of a toy than a game system"

post-christmas 2007 "i think wii+ps3 can co-exist, but the beating the wii is giving to all consoles makes me think i better start putting my shizzle on wii to make some moola. my god look at the top 30 software sales this week, its almost all nintendo!"

or to paraphrase "I WANT MONEY!"

Relcom5966d ago (Edited 5966d ago )

They don't hide that fact either. Wii prints money and they want a piece of the action. I love how with the recent success of the PS3. They have calmed down the sh1t talk about it too.

Sarick5964d ago (Edited 5964d ago )

"we are concentrating on ps3, but if there is one thing you can't argue is that 360 owners buy games"

Whatever happened to the game companies that made games to make them fun? The type where you make a good game that's so fun you don't need to worry about it making money.

Take Pong for instance. Those guys thought it'd be fun to bounce pixels back and forth.

There comes a point where the technical cost of development of games intimidate companies to not create. I think we've hit that point when it takes movie box office millions to get something acceptable out.

Seriously if it's not something spectacular people won't buy it these days. Whatever happened to playing or making games for fun?

RPG's action adventure plat formers.

It's no wonder why SE does so well their great story tellers. Give a game good game play, a nice plot, acceptable graphics and attach a few cut scenes, you have a winner.

IMHO the problem is money (development cost) is getting in the way of talent. So chances are several great games never get created because they cost to much. It doesn't really matter what console their exclusive to, if people like something enough they'll be more then willing to make an investment for it.

The morale is he just replaced the word "Money" with "Merit." He couldn't say money because that's too obvious.

Filanime035966d ago

Well good news for all console owners. 360 owners will probably gets some decent RPG this time. Also good for ps3 owners I hope I get FFXIII sooner rather than later.

blusoops5966d ago

no doubt 360 owners buy games...FPS games. How well will a company like square enix do in the 360 crowd when the company is known for JRPG's not FPS's? How about we look at sales figures for Blue Dragon or even Lost Oddysey.
Square knows its main followers are PlayStation and Nintendo owners.

Bladestar5966d ago

lol.. FPS... interesting thing is that those game you mentioned sold more copies than most PS3 games... even in japan attach rate and software purchases are high... hell even RTS games sell well on the xbox 360... it's funny how microsoft haters always say that the xbox 360 has only RTS and that xbox 360 owners only buy RTS... yet games like AC(not FPS) is selling more on the xbox 360... most xbox 360 games selling well are not FPS...

I tell you what though.. most PS3 games selling are FPS... lol...

ruibing5966d ago

Sorry to burst your bubble, the top selling exclusives for the PS3 are Uncharted, R&C, and Motorstorm, so I guess you never played them if you thought they were FPS games.

I really don't care what games the 360 gets in any genre, but I still do not believe the platform is capable of appreciating JRPGs. Take a look at Lost Odyssey and Eternal Sonata, these were good titles (unlike Blue Dragon) and they hardly even made an impact on the gaming community. Most of people I know who owns a PS2 and 360 usually just use the 360 for FPS and PS2 for RPGs.

But you guys are getting Infinite Undiscovery and Lost Odyssey, while we are getting Disgaea 3, FFXIII, and White Knight Story. We are also both getting Last Remnant, so there's not much for any side to complain.

kevoncox5966d ago

Lost Oddyess is out???
Quick let me get to Game Spot...

Seriously, the biggest sellers are FPS but all genres of games have sold well on 360. LO received average sales and average scores. If LO is a AAA RPG it will sell well. I don't think that LO is a AAA rpg. It doesn't look much better than an xbox game.

Homicide5966d ago

Square-Enix's biggest fanbase is in Japan, and thats what the 360/Microsoft doesn't have there.

lawman11085965d ago

The 360 does not only beat the PS3..... it DESTROYS it in sales. I own each system and I have bought 100 360 games and maybe 7 PS3 games (4 of those were used) Games made for each system run and look better on the 360.

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Gaara_7245966d ago

what is merit?? some one please pm me and tell me i have no idea what it means and on google it dont say
back on topic
agree with me if you fink final fantasy 13 and final fantasy versous 13 will rock
and
dissagre if you hink they will flop
i want to c the odd of it flopng and rockin lol

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Why Xbox believes it must cut costs and close studios

Companies, particularly public companies like Microsoft, need to grow.

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gold_drake7h ago

i mean its pretty simple, they spent close to 30 billion in acquiring activision, they thought they'd make it bk no problem, and that didnt happen.

its just shit that because of MS's miscalculation alot of people lost their jobs.

Jingsing4h ago

This is exactly what many people said would happen including the CMA and FTC. Lies lies and more lies and they allowed a $69 billion buy out to happen.

gold_drake3h ago

oh yeh it was 70 billion. that was my bad haha even worse.

thesoftware7303h ago(Edited 3h ago)

gold,

You can't be serious, right?

Do you think that MS thought they would make 80bill in a year & Half? They haven't even released titles under MS yet, lol.

But in fact, that A/B revenue is already paying off, look at the last earnings call. That $80 billion is long-term money, my guy, no sane person/company would think they would make that back in any short-term situation, it's a long-term investment.

Let's play silly then. If MS's reason for laying off staff and closing studios was due(which it really was not) to the A/B deal, tell me what Sony's reason was for past studio closures, the recent 900-person layoffs, closing Sony London, shutting down Dreams, and closing Japan Studio? Zipper? Psygnosis? cuts at all their internal studios.

Keep in mind, you are claiming MS's reason is because of the A/B deal; please explain Sony's reason.

Hofstaderman3h ago

You actually still defending them? Sheesh.....

gold_drake3h ago

this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt.

and of course not, but im pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. they didnt, and closed off some studios.

its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case.

romulus233h ago(Edited 3h ago)

(It really was) due to the Activision Blizzard deal and the loss of physical sales due to gamepass. You keep bringing up Sony in all your posts about this, stop deflecting and trying to change the topic, this is about MS and what they are doing.

BehindTheRows3h ago

Has nothing to do with Sony. Stay on topic.

notachance3h ago

once in a while you see someone too invested in their make-believe console war that everything happened has to be connected to said war…

a bit of banter between fans is normal, this crusade you’re doing now isn’t.

Chevalier2h ago

Wow idiotic. You bring up very old closures not that there haven't been recent ones from Playstations, but, seriously stop deflecting. This has NOTHING to do with Playstation.

Does Playstation got $3 trillion behind them and daddies wallet? No they don't so stop making a fool of yourself.

Xbox has never been profitable really and they just keep losing money so between their worst hardware sales, terrible 3rd party sales and now terrible 1st party sales.

Gamepass numbers that are no longer being announced shows their numbers after 3 years of missed targets has flatlined. Plus their recent gains up to 34 million were ONLY because they folded Gold members in too. Absolutely take your idiotic rhetoric out of here. Keep on topic without deflecting.

S2Killinit2h ago

Ayayayay with these xbox/MS excuses.

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thesoftware7301h ago(Edited 55m ago)

Drake,

"this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt."

You are correct that it's not an MS Vs Sony Topic, but when exaggeration and imagination mix from a one-sided social group, similar examples are needed to ground radical thoughts; in this instance, the example was that shutting down 3,4,5, even 6 studios during a restructure/ buyout/acquisition is not some anomaly(it can suck) that has to be dissected or spell doom and gloom.

"But I'm pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. They didn't, and they closed off some studios."

But they did make more money, a lot, actually; the last earnings call showed a huge growth in profit, almost all due to A/B revenue.

"its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case."

The fact that they did make money, kinda throws this out the window, and besides, you don't wake up and say, hey let's close a studio, you look at the output, you look at the dev as a whole, the long term and short term, you weigh it against all other studios and goals, you keep key members, ect..then you close if they are the weakest links...which by MS analysis they were.

Again, I will make a small Sony comparison, just so some of you can understand and see past the bias; Insomniac, ND, and Bungie have made some of the best games ever created, yet Sony saw fit to cut jobs in every of these studios, even tho Insomniac & ND are the biggest producers of PS games, leagues ahead better than Tango and Arkane, yet, they saw cuts, mind you, while being the TOP produces of PS first party. They were told to cut costs, and more jobs may be on the line, and Bungie is being threatened by a hostile Sony takeover. Put that in perspective, as I know that layoffs and dev closures are different, but if the best of the best is getting cut off, it is less than surprising, that lesser studios are closing.

@Cheva,
My response fits well with your comments as well. You even went on to prove that the dev closures are not just due to A/B acquisition. Then you point out Sony has less money than MS, inferring that MS should keep devs open that they see as lesser earners, while Sony having less money makes it okay to close them. lol...it doesn't work that way.

gold_drake1h ago

im not reading all of that. u have ur opinion, i have mine.

thats rly it.

but this aint sony vs ms.

ApocalypseShadow43m ago

You're trying to compare a 100 billion company to a company that has 3 TRILLION worth. SIE has to live or die on their own. And in turn, PlayStation has helped the main company again and again. Sony has to balance out what is working and not working in the company.

While Xbox has Daddy Warbucks footing the bill to keep the platform afloat. They have been bleeding money from Nvidia hardware in the OG Xbox, the RROD fiasco, the attempted 2013 DRM nonsense and the lies about being the most powerful console in the world and the losses of paying out millions to prop up a service hoping it catches on with enough subscribers to justify its existence.

They're not comparable if Xbox isn't allowed to live or die by its actions. It's subsidized. Revenue isn't profit. And if they were profiting on their own, they wouldn't be closing developers. If they were profiting, they wouldn't need Daddy Warbucks spending 80 to 100 billion buying up 3rd party publishers to sustain a loss leading platform.

They stopped announcing game sales, stopped announcing hardware sales, stopped announcing game pass subscribers, they are putting games on their competitors platforms but you're telling us that they are doing great even after killing jobs and closing developers at Xbox.

Stop drinking the Kool aid. You're drunk.

anast4h ago

They are going to use AI for a large portion of the game development process. Upper management need bonuses and the shareholders need more money. So, people will lose their jobs.

Skuletor3h ago

Maybe they were already using AI to make business decisions, which would explain why they closed Hi-Fi Rush's studio, then said they need more games like Hi-Fi Rush not long after that announcement.

Crows903h ago(Edited 3h ago)

They shouldn't have bought any studios. Some is okay...but they went on a shopping spree...stupid

Einhander19722h ago

The better question is why did Microsoft buy publishers for a service they were subsidizing they knew couldn't support.

And why are so many websites trying to make people feel sorry for Microsoft instead of truly criticizing the fact they are closing studios and killing jobs that would have been fine if Microsoft themselves hadn't gotten involved.

Quit feeling sorry for Microsoft and start feeling sorry for the industry and the all the gamers who are actually losing out.

THIS IS MICROSOFTS FAULT.

RNTody2h ago

The first thing that happens after any major acquisition or merger is a consolidation of the whole new portfolio, which includes cutting any excess, bloat or portfolios that don't fit the larger MO of the big boy. So far, it's been par for the course with Microsoft and that's why gamers have been so against this acquisition. Tango Gameworks is the beginning. You think Microsoft wants to pay to keep small timers like Ninja Theory in business?

There is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that Microsoft will improve any of these studios, but plenty to suggest that they will get rid of what they don't need and hold onto the IP. The real agenda of the acquisition was always to acquire The Elder Scrolls, Diablo, Fallout, Call of Duty, Candy Crush etc. that will create millions in passive revenue stream for Microsoft regardless of where the games release. Microsoft simply wants their cut.

Because of Games Pass Microsoft has no interest in investing in new IP which is risky and requires creative talent they can neither nurture nor manage. Game Pass has also not grown in the way Microsoft expected it to, even post acquisitions. Therefore the logical thing to do, without serious money makers to release, is to cut as much cost as possible.

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