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Ubisoft destroys core element of single player Ghost Recon

It's not all rosy in the Ghost Recon Future Soldier camp as Ubisoft ditches established modes in favour of copycat gaming.

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bunt-custardly4376d ago

Yep, this is the sad face of business that is mirrored across many game series from Ubisoft whether it be Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six or Ghost Recon. As a fan, the only thing left to do is dig out the old games or write 1000 emails to Ubisoft to get them to at least add features as extra modes to their games which appeal to the long term fan.

It's not going to happen though is it. So Kudos to Irrational Games for at least including an old school mode in Bioshock Infinite.

/rant.

NYC_Gamer4376d ago

Ubisoft doesn't care about Splinter Cell,Rainbow Six or Ghost Recon anymore....notice how Ubi pays more attention to pumping out Assassin Creed...

bunt-custardly4376d ago

Good point. They are hailing Assassin's Creed III as their biggest game launch ever.

Dark114376d ago (Edited 4376d ago )

yep , and hopefully that AssCreed cow will be dead soon.

user54670074376d ago

I remember when they cared more about Prince of Persia....you know the game they rebooted then left the epilogue DLC on a cliff hanger. Will we ever get a sequel instead of Assassins Creed

....Still waiting Ubisoft...I'm still waiting

bunt-custardly4376d ago

Whoever secretly disagreed with me.

RE: AC III - Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot predicted it would be "the biggest launch in Ubisoft history."

http://uk.gamespot.com/news...

Solid_Snake374376d ago

Greed has taken over gaming. There may be a time where I may no longer buy games.

TekoIie4375d ago

Assassins creed > more shooters :/

SilentNegotiator4375d ago (Edited 4375d ago )

With indie ventures becoming bigger and bigger, hopefully the next generation of developers will innovate more and bring back things that we once considered basic.

"Assassins creed > more shooters"
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Why is Madden's Creed better than "more shooters"?

MaxXAttaxX4375d ago

I was just expressing how Rayman Origins was the only Ubisoft game I've enjoyed recently. It was a good game, disagreers.

vickers5004375d ago

@Silent

Because we have hundreds of shooters already.

We only have about 5 (not counting mobile versions) Assassins Creed, and while that still is a lot, it's not quite as bad as the hundreds and hundreds of shooters we have.

In my opinion anyways. You can't really get Assassins Creed gameplay from any other franchise, but you can get Call of Duty gameplay from tons of other shooters.

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Nimblest-Assassin4376d ago (Edited 4376d ago )

Well I never played a Ghost Recon before, except the beta, but the reason why is kinda obvious. Ghost Recon, is kind of a niche game, not saying that is bad, however they want to open it up which can be kind of a problem.

You lose the core fans in order for new ones, so that is the balance they have to cross. They are a business, they look at sales, this is the truth about gaming, companies like sales....

The epidamy of sales is COD, which is why every game seems to try and take ideas from COD inorder to sell more.

Personally, I enjoy when games stick to their guns.

@Dark11

Really love the way you went out of your way to call it AssCreed. The truth is that they follow a story, which revolves around the idea of 2012. AC3 has been in development for 3 years now, with ACB and ACR only requiring one, because they have a story to tell and want to do so before 2012.

"In Assassin's Creed we set up a timeline with this whole end of the world plot in December 2012... That's fast approaching, and the story we have to tell, we obviously need to do it before we arrive at that point. It would be stupid of us to be centering a game on a semi-reality and then have that conclusion happen after that date in real life."
— Alexandre Amacio, creative director of Assassin's Creed: Revelations

Also, people love AC. Its one of the 2 games a lot of people cosplay as, AC and Mass Effect.

There are a lot of people who love the games because they are unique in their sense of what they are. How it got so sucessful, no idea considering all that idiotic Jade Raymond controversy going on, but thats why they made creeds yearly after 2, they want to follow the story.

iistuii4375d ago

But when a company "sticks to their guns" people then say its the same old rehashed game, they try to improvise & improve it & people say they've lost the core gamer, they can't win. COD stick to their guns & on N4G gets slaughtered for it. A type of Horde gameplay is perfect IMO..

LastDance4375d ago

The ironic thing is is that if they went back to a super tactical multi-squad based style game a la the first rainbow six games, it would probably be hailed as a breath of fresh air and sell really well.

Ravenor4375d ago

IF GR went back to how GR1 played it would be an improvement.

bumnut4375d ago

Ghost Recon died when GRAW released for me, I loved the earlier games.

EZMickey4375d ago

Look, I agree that as time goes on, features in games get 'nurfed', publishers want to buck with the trend, etc. However, the points raised in this article aren't that accurate.

1. He states that in Guerrilla mode, solo players won't be encouraged to explore the map.

In Guerrilla mode, your team is tasked with defending a Headquarters. Every 10 rounds, the Headquarters changes location. Once the round starts, 9 waves of enemies will spawn in to try to take your Headquarters from you. The 10th round is a stealth round where enemies are unaware of your location. Thereafter the location of the HQ changes. You are FORCED to explore the map. Solo or Coop.

Also, I'm not a fan of straight up hating. I mean, I do honestly understand what it's like when you see a long standing franchise change over time to appeal to the masses and skimp on some of your favourite modes and features but the headline describing the solo play as "Butchered" is quite an exaggeration.

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h311rais3r4376d ago

The ubisoft era died with the 360 gen.

Kran4376d ago

So essentially, the PS3 gen too.

MariaHelFutura4375d ago (Edited 4375d ago )

GRAW was only out for the 360, the PS3 wasn't out. (If that's what he meant) He probably meant launch.

Diver4376d ago

ghostrecon died when united bought rse and christian allen took over lead design. graw was the beginning of the end.

kingdavid4375d ago (Edited 4375d ago )

Rubbish.

GRAW was the first great game on the 360 and was the first graphic "powerhouse" on the system.

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InTheLab4376d ago

"My beef is, why Ubisoft? Why remove a cool part of the Ghost Recon experience that has been in every game to date in favour of a co-op based mode that can't really be enjoyed by solo players?"

Some won't like it but XBL is why. MS has been punishing single player all gen and has all but eliminated local co-op. They want you on Live with every game you purchase and frown on the single player experience.

Gazondaily4376d ago

Xbox Live has killed local co op for all platforms? What nonsensical rubbish. The popularity of online gaming isn't down to the success of Xbox live alone. Microsoft doesn't give developers ultimatums about having online elements in their games.

Sorry but yours is a silly sweeping statement.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34376d ago

Yeah that person's comment is rather stupid. I don't need to be hooked up to LIVE to play Skyrim or the like.

TekoIie4375d ago

You speak the truth but the ghosts disagree ;)

JellyJelly4375d ago

The paranoia is thick in here. You'd probably get agrees for writing something like "M$ was behind the assassination of JFK. FACT!"

Revolver_X_4376d ago

Stupid read. So, the writer claims that making it more co-op instead of single player driven will make ppl return the game, lacking replay value. Huh? Thats why MW3 and BF3 are so highly returned, becuz multiplayer is so boring(sarcasm intended). Show me the last person to buy a 1st or 3rd person shooter for the SP, and I'll show you someone who wasted their money. On top of that, he's assuming that the Guerella mode or whatever its called will be too "tough" to play solo. You know what they say about assumptions. This article is a bust.

bunt-custardly4376d ago

I have to jump in to defend the article and writer Lee here. He says he disagrees with the Editor of msxbox-world who has obviously played the Guerilla Mode having posted up the gameplay footage. It's obvious via discussion with his Editor and by looking at the video that Guerilla mode is a co-op focused mode not designed for solo players even though it can be played solo. So it's no wild stab in the dark or assumption that it's too hard to play solo.

Secondly.

"Show me the last person to buy a 1st or 3rd person shooter for the SP, and I'll show you someone who wasted their money."

There are countless games that are single player focused that include multiplayer, take Ubisoft's own Assassin's Creed and Splinter Cell games - pretty silly thing to say really.

I think you're missing the point that there are plenty of gamers who like to play solo games or those who do not have access to Internet. They get short changed not the people who love to play online games - which isn't everyone y'know.

mynameisEvil4375d ago

"Show me the last person to buy a 1st or 3rd person shooter for the SP..."

Well, me. I bought the FANTASTIC Serious Sam 3. It's a 12 hours+ campaign and it plays in the style that I like best. In fact, it was even my personal GotY for 2011. Was my money lost? Well, if you were judging, apparently so.

Thank God you aren't the one to tell us what is and isn't a waste of money. If you did, I guess I wouldn't be a gamer because I don't play multiplayer. In fact, there's quite a number of gamers who are just like me in that regard.

Just because YOU don't play SP doesn't mean other don't. Get it through your skull that your subjective opinion on what you like is NOT objective fact.

MysticStrummer4375d ago

"Show me the last person to buy a 1st or 3rd person shooter for the SP, and I'll show you someone who wasted their money."

Ridiculous.

scotchmouth4375d ago

I buy games to enjoy singleplayer. The world does not stop and start with Team Death Match.

iistuii4375d ago

Yeah, everyone is online nowadays & sp only games are getting rare now. They say you can't play guerrilla mode on your own, well good, it's meant to be played coop. Ever tried Horde on Gears on your own, you don't stand a chance, because it's made for team mates. I suggest the author gets some friends & plays it how it's designed to be played.

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humbleopinion4375d ago

@InTheLab, are you seriously ok? Almost every second Xbox exclusive game offers local multiplyaer: From big games like Halo and Gears, to third parties like SC:Conviction and L4D, to adventure games like Kameo (any similar game with co-op that you know of?), to arcade games like the the upcoming Minecraft and tons of other examples.
Some of these games even have a PC version which EXCLUDES local co-op, so how can you say that MS is eliminating this element where in reality is seems like it's being pushed on the Xbox 360 more than anywhere else?

mr_badhand4375d ago

Probably the single worse comment I have read in a long time.

nothing you said made one bit sense or any shred of truth. The fact you have 14 agrees shows the sad state some people think here on n4g.

ShottySnipa4174375d ago

Halo would like to speak with you.

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joab7774376d ago

I agree about how games change etc. But this is a core element? I think you mentioned that you really didnt want to play it again after u were done but at least it was something a solo player could do? So, you would be returning it anyway, just a couple days later. Theres always little replayability for strictly solo players in these kind of games with short campaigns. Do you not like teaming up with your friends to play? And many of these mordes do offer settings for a solo play. Its just really hard.

sriki0074376d ago

atleast this game is coming... With all the delays from 2009,i thought this was never gonna come..

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The Best Ghost Recon Games to Play Before Breakpoint

KeenGamer: ''Wildlands, Shadow Wars, Future Soldier, and Advanced Warfighter 2 are among some of the best Ghost Recon games that tactical shooter fans can play until Breakpoint finally releases for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC on October 4. Wildlands, Shadow Wars, Future Soldier, and Advanced Warfighter 2 are among some of the best Ghost Recon games that tactical shooter fans can play until Breakpoint releases for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC on October 4.''

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2pacalypsenow1670d ago

Have there been any reviews for this game?

Akira20201670d ago

Wait till you guys see all the Pay To Win micro-transactions that are in this game!! Yes, everything from buying weapons (NOT just skins), to attachments, to skill unlocks, to "time savers", etc....and this is just naming a few. Check out the videos online for Breakpoint's Store!

I was so jacked for this game, but now it's a pass just like this year's COD.
I'm predicting that these greedy companies will soon be the death of video games as we know it.

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Revisiting Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier

Gamerheadquarters; "Ghost Recon: Future Soldier was a shooter that felt tactical, slightly futuristic and was a blast when played cooperatively."

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FallenAngel19842233d ago

This is the only game in the franchise that I’ve played

skycaptin52233d ago

I heard the latest entry Wildlands was solid, the Advanced games were enjoyable and the free to play that no longer exists was alright from what I remember.

Zjet2232d ago

Future Soldier is damn good.

Advanced were also great.

Wildlands is really good.... It's like Open World SOCOM

PUBG2232d ago

Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm on PS2 and Ghost Recon: Island Thunder on Xbox were also awesome games.

2pacalypsenow2232d ago

You should really give Advanced Warfighter 1/2 a try.

TheColbertinator2232d ago

Ghost Recon has gone in all kinds of directions but I've enjoyed them all

icerob2232d ago

I have been waiting forever fór GRAW2.. please please please!!!

Elwenil2232d ago

You are a bit late, GRAW2 came out in 2007.

COZMIC2232d ago

I loved this game back in the day. Played multiplayer a lot with my friends. Only complaint I really had was how overpowered the auto turret was in multiplayer. Good times.

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3 more arrivals hit Xbox One via Xbox Backwards Compatibility – Are they worth the return?

Carlos writes: "Once again, the Xbox Backwards Compatible library is expanding and with 2018 already proving to be a great year for the program, even in these early months, new titles can only be a good thing right? With that in mind, let’s jump into this week’s additions to see which Xbox 360 titles have hit Xbox One and whether or not they are worth spending time with once more."

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TheOttomatic912233d ago

Still waiting on Splinter Cell Blacklist

LucasRuinedChildhood2233d ago

Badass game. Way better than Conviction. Cool split screen co-op too.

mikeslemonade2232d ago

Are they worth the return? No.

BC not needed.

Grown Folks Talk2232d ago

The entire series please. Either a X enhanced Chaos Theory, or a remastered Chaos Theory in the Blacklist engine will do.

ULTp0ltergeist2232d ago

Wouldn't mind it at all especially with some enhancements.

chris2352233d ago

no. no backward compatible game is worth anything. i looked at playstation now the other day because finally it‘s available in switzerland. but the only thing that emerged by browsing the old unaltered titles were question marks. it is beyond me who uses this service or prefers to play something very dated instead of playing the actual versions.

starsi3602233d ago

Not everything has to be about how up to date the graphics are.

There are many games from the 360/PS3 era that stand head and shoulders above their current iterations from a gameplay perspective.

Halo 3 campaign versus Halo 5 campaign for example. Halo 3 for me is a very enjoyable game, I found 5 to be bland an uninspired (the multiplayer was good though)

Gaming_1st2232d ago

I thought Halo 3 campaign was not very good. It had rehashed audio, terrible AI, irritating story telling, continued backtracking, very short and the list could go on. Between Halo Ce, Halo 2 and Halo 3. Halo 3 is by far the worst.

timotim2233d ago

And that's just it....every BC title for Xbox is altered in some way. Better performance, smoother visuals, can use system features like screenshots and video clips and even others are completely enhanced to look damn near current gen.

PS Now is actually worse than owning the games because it downgrades the visuals slightly, while its performance is always on a delay and has lag due to it streaming nature. Nothing about PS Now enhances the titles.

In terms of playing old games...well, a good game is a good game. Geometry Wars will forever be good, Zuma will forever be good, Ninja Gaiden will forever be good...the fact that I can play them on my X is a major plus. Look at all the people excited for Sega's Genesis Collection for X1/PS4. If I already bought game in the past, why shouldn't I be able to play it whenever I want?

fathertime44642233d ago (Edited 2233d ago )

@Timothy
I agree with ya, but just want to correct one part of what you said
The game code isn't touched for bc to work on Xbox . It running or looking better on the x is all because of the emulator programming and better hardware.

Wasabi2232d ago

@fathertime

"The game code isn't touched for bc to work on Xbox . It running or looking better on the x is all because of the emulator programming and better hardware"

I agree with ya, but just want to correct part of what you said,

In the case of several Xbox One X backwards compatibility titles

Assassin's Creed
Crackdown
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Fable Anniversary
Fallout 3
Forza Horizon
Gears of War 3
Halo 3
Mirror’s Edge
Skate 3
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings

The games have actually been tweaked to run at 4K on the X and/or at a higher framerate. MS actually altered the games code and assets on a per game basis to mark them out as Xbox One X enhanced BC titles, these games feature enhancements not provided solely by the emulator.

fathertime44642231d ago

@fragnum
MS didn't touch the game code on those games. It's a 9 time sampling algorithm specially designed by MS that takes every frame multiplies it by 9. Look it up. It's why not all games are why not all of the games are 4k.

NeoGamer2322232d ago

Not everyone thinks that only new games are worth playing.

A great game is not only based on its graphics but the quality of story, gameplay, controls, music, multiplayer, and environmental setting. There are many great games from previous generations that I would rate higher than most games released this generation.

This generation has been high on beauty but lacklustre on innovation. Especially innovation for single player games.

Pickledpepper2232d ago

I've been having a blast on dead space on my X played through 3 times to get all achievements, now playing dead space 2 on my 3rd run still think them games hold up against newer titles. Love BC addition well worth having.

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Cy2232d ago

If no backward compatible game is worth anything, why do the sales of pretty much every game that gets put on BC massively increase after they get added?

OffRoadKing2232d ago

Not pretty much every, a handful of select titles like GTA, COD and RDR. And its easy to "massively increase" sales when they go from virtually nothing to some people buying them.

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Zerobalance2233d ago

As an Xbox gamer BC is fine. Been playing Just Cause 2 using my old 360 disc. Old games are history to real gamers. Also replayed RDR too. Never touch my PS now service to expensive & rubbish.

chaos-emeralds2233d ago

Old games are history to real gamers. Written by a casual. I've been gaming since the c64, and I love the old games still. The xbox 360 has some great classics worth revisiting.

NeoGamer2322232d ago

lol. I've been gaming since the Coleco Telstar, the Commodore 64 was my fourth gaming device!

Pickledpepper2232d ago

I've been gaming since atari 2600 woody and still have it now boxed, I still have every console I've ever owned and zx spectrum lol

PUBG2232d ago

Oh yeah? Well I've been gaming since the Texas Instruments TI-99.

Gaming_1st2232d ago

Some people have new games to worry about. Haven't played a old game in quite some time. Now maybe if i didn't have anything to play, i wouldn't mine checking out some old games i wasn't able to play.

LucasRuinedChildhood2233d ago

C'mon now. Stop with the clickbait. I don't have an XB1 myself but this is a really good feature and you don't need to ask "Are they worth the return" every time a few games get added. It's just clickbait. More games is never a problem unless they're atrocious. I've mentioned this point in the past. Unfortunately, these dumb articles are never going to stop.

Also, to PlayStation (my console of preference by far) fans who are doing this in the comments: stop attacking BC. It's one of the reasons the PS2 was such an incredible console. Every time a new console iteration comes out, we shouldn't lose access to all our old games if the old console dies. Consoles are digital platforms now. BC is awesome. End of. "Who wants to play old games?" If you said,"Who wants to watch old movies. I only watch new movies," you'd look like a moron.

Aenea2233d ago

It's a dedicated Xbox site doing this, not a generic gaming site, so rather doubtful they need to have clickbait headlines...

SlyBoogie19932233d ago (Edited 2233d ago )

There's no clickbait here in the slightest, it's an opinion based on whether the games being made available are still of a good quality today. With so many games coming out all the time i'm pretty sure no one has the time to play all of them, these articles look at how well they hold up, offers an opinion on whether it was a good game that was worth playing to begin with or as you put it if they are atrocious and more importantly if it's worth taking time away from the extensive library of Xbox One titles that continue to be added to head back to a game you've probably played before, whilst offering an opinion to those who haven't played them and may wish to now on Xbox One. You wouldn't call a review clickbait and that's an opinion so how is this?

waljaber2232d ago

i got sick from playing 10 years old games, i need new IP.

timotim2233d ago

Had my GR disc from years ago. Still have more of the campaign left to finish...thanks Microsoft...my X library is crazy.

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