Four Lies Told To You By The Gaming Industry (That You Forgot)

GP: "Everybody has told a little white lie at some point in their lives. And when I say everybody, I do mean everybody. Game companies included. Some lies are bigger than others, while others are just confusing and leave you wondering, 'Why would they lie about that?' But in most cases, a company will lie to drum up interest in their product."

[Godmars290]

There should have been a false advertising legal brew-ha-ha over FFXIII for the 360, especially considering the multiple ad "mistakes," but the fan bases were too busy arguing about it being on the system.

[SPAM-FRITTER-123]

to be fair molyneux did allow you to have kids in 2.

and the guys below are right. you could write a whole article about molyneux's lies.....oh wait they have about a hundred times.

he is still the best developer on the market.

[Lucretia]

peter is far from the best developer. when the only decent games he has made is black and white and fable 1, and the lies and promises he failed to meet keep coming he is one of the worst and over rated devs ever.

He can't make a decent game for the life of him. his last good game was fable 1

[Falloutxii]

"he is still the best developer on the market." lmao right...

[SPAM-FRITTER-123]

@lucretia

yeh he has only made 2 decent games.

what about:

Fusion

Populous

Syndicate

Theme Park

Dungeon Keeper

The Movies

let me guess your a new skool gamer.

[Panthers]

Fable 1 was horrible

[Anon1974]

Spam-fritter hit it right on the head. Some of the best gaming experiences I've ever had were directly the result of Peter and Bullfrog studios. Populous and Populous 2 were classics. Syndicate was fantastic, Dungeon Keeper was one of a kind as was Black and White. You want to see when his work started to go south, look no further than when he teamed up with Microsoft, and even then - Fable one and 2 were a blast.

As for his "lies" the guy was ambitious and passionate about his work. He talked tonnes with the media about what he wanted and what he planned to put into the Fable series and some of it didn't come to pass. Big freaking deal. You think he's the only developer out there that wasn't able to put everything into his games that they wanted to? This is why some developers won't even talk to the media during production - because some game fans can't handle it and in the end just start whining about "Uuugh. mmmm..But they said thissssss....." Of course games change during development. We'd hear more about it to if developers weren't afraid of a subset of gamers losing their freaking minds every time some element didn't go exactly as planned during development.

And, I'm sorry. The finished Killzone 2 looked far, far better than the E3 trailer we saw of supposed game footage. It was a gaff, but in the end Guerrilla Games totally pulled off and exceeded the promises of that footage. I didn't think there was actually anyone out there that still believed Guerrilla didn't deliver compared to that e3 video.

[Denethor_II]

Peter is definitely a great developer of games and a pioneer of 'God' games.

[crxss]

it's hard to forget lies told by VG companies especially when you have the internet available 24/7 to remind you and that we're the ones being lied to. every company that's lied will always have a tainted image to them.

my most recent favorite lie comes from the people at bioware (I doubt people will ever forget this).

Casey Hudson:
“the endings can be a lot more different. At
this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made
as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way
like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings
there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a
lot more sophistication and variety in them.”

Enjoy the rest: http://social.bioware.com/f...

[SilentNegotiator]

"let me guess your a new skool gamer"

You said that he "IS" the best, not "WAS"

You have confused "old school" and "living in the past". Pete's offerings have been very weak lately.

[Hellsvacancy]

Populous is 1 of my all time favourite games, i really liked Black And White aswel

[MaxXAttaxX]

It had more lighting effects and an overall better picture than the trailer.

Phil Harrison slipped up and said all demos(in general) were real-time, but nothing about Killzone 2 footage actually being in-game, but to PS3 specs instead. So I don't see the big deal.

[N4realGMRZ]

Some people are still in denial about Killzone......sigh......it looked nothing like the pre rendered demo.......in fact nothing does not even high end PC Games....i still think about it as the ultimate like this Gen.......honesly just move on about it!

[ChrisGTR1]

what ever happened to Nasim. he was one of the biggest ps3 fanboys maybe like 5 years ago on this site.

[hot4play]

Project Natal/Kinect "Milo" demo anyone?

[nanometric]

Doesn't he go by Deadreckoning (or something) now?

EDIT: Also, what about TheMart and Zhuk, the infamous xbox trolls? Those were fun times...
BTW, TheMart, if you’re reading this, are you still waiting for MGS4 on xbox or not?

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Man, I've been out of N4G for like 2 weeks and the fanboy war is all out again?

Seriously, some of the comments under remember me of Mart, Nasim, Power of Green... Even LaChance came out of his bridge! It sure bring some memories up.

I guess those new gen consoles must be around the corner and it's gonna be 2005/2006 all over again.

[MaxXAttaxX]

Who's in denial? No one said Killzone 2 looked like the trailer. Technically, of course it didn't!
But you missed the point of what I said above. There are elements that look better in the actual game and it still ended up looking pretty great. Better than many were expecting.

[nanometric]

.

[Bathyj]

How did I know this would mention Killzone. Give it up, its been like 7 years, and it was never true to start with.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[caseh]

'They never quite pulled it off, but it still looked pretty amazing'

So they were a bit over-ambitious, no big deal and the result was a pretty amazing game. Good enough for me. :)

[Bathyj]

So youre a person who would rather focus on the overwhelming positives than dwell on the occasional negative?

Go forth and multiply sir.

[SPAM-FRITTER-123]

why is it ok for guerilla to be over-ambitious but not molyneux?

all companies do it just molyneux does it more than others. he has a creative mind,which is rare in gaming these days.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Because Guerrilla never told us the game would look EXACTLY like that. They never promised us that you could have kids in Killzone...

What they did was make a CGI trailer and tell us it was a CGI trailer. Then, the gaming community freaked out because they WANTED it to be in-game footage.

[sphinct]

Killzone is a great franchise. I'm a longtime fan.

[MaxXAttaxX]

The final build of Killzone 2 looked better than the 2005 trailer.
It had more lighting effects and an overall better picture than the trailer.

Phil Harrison slipped up and said all demos(in general) were real-time, but nothing about Killzone 2 footage actually being in-game, but to PS3 specs instead. So I don't see the big deal.
__

@SPAM-FRITTER-123

Two different things. Tech demo vs missing game features? Nice try.

[Godmars290]

Honestly don't remember KZ3 ever being compared to the first KZ2 teaser.

Do remember Sony went to the trouble of offering a full breakdown of another commercial featuring a sniper bullet on PSN.

[Jazz4108]

I'm not defending anyone but a lie is a lie. Killzone was never running in game as the sony camp said and was only a target render. The game itself was ok but kz 3 was terrible. This article is about lies and you could fill pages with lies sony has stated from the intro of ps2 to the ps3 and the more recent psn outage. Its getting so bad that one has to question everything sony says anymore. I'm not saying all company's are perfect and just picking on Sony but Sony had this coming and people on here wonder why Sony gets so much hate in the media and this is one of the many reasons.

[Kahvipannu]

I actually also wonder why no more people mention Sony, they always have theyr heads in the clouds, and promise too much. This goes with many companies, but Sony comes in mind first when someone mentions the topic, and Molyneyx from devs ofcourse.

[Clarence]

Yeah because M$ didn't lie about the 360 and RROD. One the biggest lies this gen. If I remember correctly Halo Reach didn't look anything like the shots that were first released.
Sony gets so much hate in the media because u and the other Sony haters wanted the PS3 to fell from the get go.
The media was bashing the PS3 before any of the issues you mentioned accrued.

Nice try.

[kikizoo]

Wow jazz, always the poor delusional xfanboy in total denial, kz2 delivered more than expected, and you can find article with "kz2 visuals better than E3 demo"

so just, accept it, 2006 blind fanboy.

[Silly gameAr]

The actual game looked better then the target render. Get over it,

[andrewsqual]

Over ambitious? That Killzone Target render has nowhere near the particle, volumetric and shadow and lighting effects going on like there was in Killzone 2 itself. We all know that the final Killzones 2 beat the render. Nobody was saying at E3 2007, "It looks crapper then 2 years ago". Eh Kinect? Remember that? I think Microsoft are still trying to say its awesome or something?

[jimbobwahey]

Yeah really, I didn't know there were people who played Killzone 2 and honestly didn't think it looked better than the prerendered trailer.

Hell, I remember back when the game came out people compared in-game screenshots to the original trailer, and the final game blew it out the water in pretty much every single area.

Totally baffled that there's people out there who somehow think KZ2/KZ3 look worse than the first trailer that Sony showed, all it takes is a few minutes with either game to see that they went way beyond it visually.

[YoungKingDoran]

"Killzone 2 is a first-person shooter that is a bit like Call of Duty 4 in that lots of things happen around you in a war-torn area where your squadron is fighting for survival."

lol
lots of things happen = COD

[Redempteur]

Only one lie by molyneux ? ROFL

you could make an entire article about him

[basilezz3030]

molyneux only lied once ???
riiiiiiiiiiiiiight

[LaChance]

I think the PS3 is the biggest lie of the industry this gen.

It's nowhere as revolutionnary are powerful as they said it was. And what happend to it being like 4 times more powerful than the 360 ?

[fucadastates]

why only one bubble....?... ohh thats why :)

[crxss]

lol yeah I can see why he only has one bubble but LaChance kind of has a point here. Other than the promise of the cell processor, i also remember when Sony thought it'd have two HDMI ports, three Ethernet ports, and six USB ports back in 2005. Really hoping Sony can bounce back with the PS4. Feels like they didn't really research what people wanted in the PS3.

On the other hand we had Microsoft denying RROD reports for a long time lol

[SilentNegotiator]

Changes from the unfinished ps3 prototype OVER A YEAR before launch isn't the same as a "lie". It's not like they aired TV ads promising multiple HDMI ports and such.

[Kahvipannu]

For saying something that is actually good point, or saying something that is against the corporation, or the plastic box you love?

Can't tell which one/s

Yes, PS3 hype was ridiculous, and many features/capabilities after that.

[glennco]

don't bash sony on n4g. your disagrees will always far outweigh your agrees. my point is you are wasting your time. fanboys are no different from religious zealots. go and tell a christian their religion comes from astrology and see where you get.

[Shadow Flare]

Nathan Drake took a dump on the 360

[callahan09]

You're just making stuff up, aren't you?

[NastyLeftHook0]

LACHANCE....there is no console game on the face of the earth that looks as good as uncharted 3, so technically you are wrong.

and 4 times as powerful? maybe not, but is it more powerful? an undeniable hell yes.

[stevenhiggster]

Actually I'd say GOW3 looks better than UC3. Maybe just my opinion but either way there isn't much in it.

[humbleopinion]

If your answer is "undeniable hell yes", how does it explain the fact that the most demanding games actually run worse on the PS3 hardware? More powerful hardware should run the games better.

What is your scale for measuring how powerful a piece of hardware is? "no game console looks as good as uncharted" is not a technical argument but rather just a subjective observation, and other people can similarly claim that other console games not only look "as good", but actually look better.

And on topic, I'd say that one of the funniest lies this gen was when Sony claimed that "rumble is a last gen feature and this is why we removed it" after getting sued by immersion for patent infringements (and then bringing the rumble back):
http://www.1up.com/news/son...

The quote is from Phil Harrison by the way, who now moved to Microsoft. So I'm expecting equally entertaining comedy next gen.

[Horny]

Epic could be on there with all the bullshots they release to promote their games.

Also add gametrailer. It was a racing game, forgot which one, were they did a graphics comparison and used ps3 footage for 360 and vice versa then claimed 360 had better graphics.

[flappersack]

I think it was GRID.

[tigertron]

This is my favourite:

"At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them.”

Casey Hudson on ME3's ending.

[the worst]

the biggest lie is xbox live is better than the PSN.
the PSN is way better.

[basilezz3030]

i don't get that too
i own both consoles plus gaming pc
the online is the same on both
but on xbox you have to pay to play online
on ps3 it's for free
that's why ps3 is my main console plus the amazing ps3 exclusives

[FinaLXiii]

yeah got a 360 2 months ago and i already own a PS3 since 07 and i seriously think Xlive is nothing special. comparing to PSN.

[DaPrintz]

Yeah I've had both since launch and at first, Live was way ahead of PSN. Over the years though, they've evened up. I still like the option to party up on live though. However, being a PS+ member has really paid off and is the real wild card when choosing which is a better "paid" service. However I do think that Live is worth the money. They're both great networks but Sony just edges MS cuz of the option to be free

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

I don't get this either. People tell me all the time that Live is better. They say you get better vocal quality (nope), more people playing online (Again...not true.), and less LAG.

Actually, I've experienced far more LAG on Live than I have on the PSN. Why? Dedicated servers. ;) Even Resistance: Fall of Man never had LAG...and it was a launch title with 40 players online.

[Godmars290]

XBL users will always point to the cross-game features as to why its better, but what's annoying is the further step in saying its "best". Even game sites will say so when overall those features really do nothing to improve actual game quality.

[Brosy]

No I'm sorry but Live is still better than PSN. You only got agrees because the majority of N4G is sony fanboys. PS3 can't even do cross game chat, beacons, custom music, channels, and free demo's. I can watch a movie and still be talking to whoever I want regardless of what they are doing, and thats up to 8 people. Not to mention video chat, and the ability to report gamers that are cheating, cursing, or being impolite to hurt their online reputation.

[SnotyTheRocket]

PS3 get's free demos, The hell' you talkin' bout? And "Fanboys"? Really? Damn console war will never end.......

[tigertron]

PSN doesn't have free demos? where have you been since the PS3's launch? in a cave?

Beacons is a neat idea but it doesn't make XBL better than the PSN. As for cross game chat, thats the only big thing the PSN doesn't have, and I rarely use it.

[MysticStrummer]

I'm sure people think I'm lying everytime I say this, but whatever... Most of my circle of gaming friends from the PS1 and PS2 days couldn't wait for PS3 to launch and drop in price so they bought 360s. Now none of them have a 360. They all have PS3s and all say XBL isn't worth paying for.

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

free demos?... that's one of your arguments? ... seriously?...

[basilezz3030]

"PS3 can't even do cross game chat, beacons, custom music, channels, and free demo's."

that's mm..???umm... i will s...i don't even ???
hmmmm whaaaa..??
*leaves the article laughing*

[AtomicGerbil]

Holy crap, I'm dreading the invoice for all the demos and trials I've downloaded.

Delusional level fanboyism at it's finest.

[SnotyTheRocket]

They justify paying for online, because they get Cross Chat. It's a nice feature, but i'll pass on paying $60 for it.

[dragon82]

The PS Vita has cross game chat for free so that pretty much invalidates that argument. Sadly, I do pay for Live on two accounts. :(

[deletingthis34675334]

XBL fails. It does not matter how many features it has, a paid network for every game across the platform is a lousy idea. 60 dollars a year, that is 120 in two years and 240 in four years, about enough to buy a 160GB PS3. I have been a 360 gamer since launch and have not once in my entire existence used Live. What is the point in paying for something I already have for free on PC, including cross game chat? Seriously, you can know a shameful cash grab when you see one.

Paid online play is only understandable for MMOs. A worthwhile MMO should be paid to play instead of F2P with paid items that only the players that spend truckloads of cash actually gets the intended experience. I have tried several F2P MMOs just to throw in the towel after a month of playing.

[nihonlight]

The biggest lie of the year (or last. Jyear) skyrim on ps3.
they said it was getting alot of love and didn't send a ps3 copy to reviewers.
Later we found out we were sold a blurry laggy piece of $#!t
Then we were told it was our fault for "playing it wrong" lmao

[dragon82]

My PS3 copy was neither blurry or laggy.

[vega275]

Biggest lie this Gen is people thinking psn is on the same level as live. Its not. Only thing psn have going for it is free online. Which doesn't put it on the sane level as live. There are other feature psn doesn't have or compare to. Like custom music, cross-game invites,chat, quick installs,play trial versions of games before you buy them, and new features MS keeps adding to live which puts live ahead of psn.

[ExCest]

You don't get it. Because it's free it is on the same level. Being free is amazing-ness and can put anything up in someone's standards. Yes, it lacks what you said but some of that is just RAM and architecture limitations. And I kind of think custom music is worthless. I'm pretty sure my phone/ipod will do just fine for that.

[vega275]

Its you that don't get it. Free doesn't put psn on the same playing field as the features in live. You can't used that lame ass excuse as " well free beat every feature thus making it even" it doesn't and because you may not use those feature doesn't mean they don't count. I never used online on psn. So is it safe to say it doesn't count.

Its no-one but Sony's fault the the hardware has limitations. Not Microsoft. If Sony can't make the ps3 pull off something as simple as party chat,cross-game invites or even making dev give a trial version of a game before you buy it. Then you just can't all a sudden say. Well they don't count cause its not important to me attitude. Then if that's the case I could also start eliminate some feature in yhr ps3 I don't use. Sounds fair

[insomnium2]

Hey Vega can you remember what was the number 1 complaint about PS3? The price ofc and why was the PS3 so expensive again? Because of all the "bells and whistles" as xfans and the media liked to put it.

Are you telling me all the bells and whistles of XBL justify the continuous $60 a year for as long as you want to play online? I mean with the PS3 it was a one-time-payment but with xbl you pay forever....

Anyway I sure as hell hope you were one of the people who stood against people and media who wanted nothing but PS3 dead on arrival back in the day.

[vega275]

I'm so tired of fanboys such as yourself screaming the so called media and the world wanted Sony dead conspiracy theory. Its old and full of shit made up by fanboys such as yourself because you can't handle alittle negativity toward Sony. Show me a article wear anyone says they want Sony dead. Plz or never otter it again. I want links with journalist actually saying it. Not you BS theory OK.

Second. You still havent refute my argument that those feature that I list and plenty more are not on psn but because you don't use them they shouldn't count. I wish live was free, but I also understand that maintaining a service that keeps evolving require money to keep it going. Just like I'm sure you support online pass to keep dev's. In a job.

As I said before psn isn't on the same level a live because its free. If that was the case people would have left live long ago forcing MS to adopt that model and cut feature. But they don't and people haven't. No one is forced to pay when they have options. The problem you and many sonyfanboys have is that people WANT TO PAY FOR LIVE and enjoy the service. Now put on your big boy pants and deal with it...oh and I expect those link to back up your claims everyone wanted Sony dead articles not negative reports, dead ps3 and Sony articles...OK. ;)

[HarvesterOSarow]

Not to mention the fact that most the time I'm playing a single player game I don't want to hear people talking. Not even my friends. Party chat is a great feature, but if you don't use it often, psn is on the same level.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Most of those features aren't from Live. They are just features on the system itself. -_-

[MysticStrummer]

See my reply to Brosy above. No one I know thinks XBL is better than PSN.

[Ravenor]

Your friends not liking XBL isn't relevant.

I just looked at where this train of thought began and holy shit, who cares? What service you use to play online doesn't matter, they do more or less the exact same thing.

I pay for Live simply because thats where the brunt of my friends and family play online games. If you choose to not pay or your circle of friends plays predominantly PC or PS3 games...wonderful for you. No one cares.

[insomnium2]

@ Ravenor

So people are not allowed to critisize the fact that they have no choise but to pay since all their friends are on the very same paid service? WOW MS sure hit the jackpot with people like you.

[pbasson]

Mate if u going to mak a point make a gd one. PSN compared to Live is shit, for one reason the network is faster & more responsive, fast connection etc. I dnt own a Xbox 360 but playing COD etc at mates yard its much better on Xbox. But if you pay for it you should get that. If PSN was price, then it would follow in the similar pattern. But its free so I guess you get what pay for. Xbox should have a free online. PSN done gd for what it is now. But it was a verrry long time coming, to Xbox standard. But if think abt it they both pretty much the same. They play games.

[dragon82]

That is a flat out lie. Live is not faster than PSN in any way. I have a 360 and PS3 both wired to my router and they are both the same when it comes to network connection speeds and lag.

[Rageanitus]

I play live and PSN, and I can say straight of the back... the only advantage live has over PSN is cross game chat.... but honestly it is NOT needed. I rarely see myself chatting with other friends when I am playing a game. Why cuz i plan to play with these exact friends on the same game.

It is such a scam because MS made it seem like if you pay for live you are entitled to things like facebook, netflix when it is free on the PSN.

BTW in order to make my xbox not as noisy I have to do a full disc install, which does take longer than a standard ps3 install.

Oh i forgot there is one advantage I see from live... the avatars are much better wooopdeedoo!

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

wow, you really loves your xbl x] being free is a pretty great feature of psn though~ you're essentially getting another game per year~ why should anyone have to pay to play a game that they already paid for? and why should i have to pay for xbl to access my netflix account??? what is xbl adding to that??? idk about everyone else but i'd rather have another game per year than paying to play my games online and using the internet service that i'm already paying for. xbl has good features but nothing that REALLY warrants paying for. pull up a laptop and your cross-game chat and custom soundtracks go out the window~

[BattleTorn]

That's wierd, I sware I had children in Fable 1.

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

you didn't.

[_LarZen_]

Lame...

[ACEMANWISE]

Other Lies and Misleading Events...

1) Final Fantasy exclusive on PS3
2) We don't need HDMI ports (Microsoft Xbox 360)
3) We don't need a larger disc format (Microsoft HD-DVD)
4) RROD cover up (and 5 redesigns of claimed fixes)
5) PS3 in 4D, 120Hz, all games in 1080P, beyond 1080P, etc.
6) Ownership of digital downloadable games.
7) Support for past gen titles (PS2 and Xbox games)

[baodeus]

@acemanwise

Most unbias so far. Good Job man

[Tommykrem]

Has the situation in gaming forums really gotten so bad we consider bias the norm and now talk about quantums of unbias!?

To be fair though, I think the people behind lie 1, 2, 3, 5 and 7 thought what they said was true at the time.

And in regards to the article I thought the final build of Killzone 2 was close to or better than the pre-rendered trailer in many aspects. Worse in other aspects, but still pretty close.

[ZeV]

Bullshit article made by an Sony Anger... pass your way !

[wenaldy]

Biggest bullshit when you have to pay for online while you already paid your Internet and the game.

[Drainage]

biggest bullshit is DLC this generation.

[Rageanitus]

Agreed... also paying for live making it seem like a privelage to pay to play Xbox Live online and use facebok and netflix .

Yet the xbox livesupports love to dwell on the idea of cross game chat... I though you were supposed to play games rather than sit back and talk between games

[pbasson]

'It was hilarious watching random gaming fans duke it out over a game that didn't quite live up to fan expectation on either side.'
Funniest thing I heard all day. Killzone 2 demo, did look amazing even though the game was a abit less than that. But when I played the KZ2 playable demo, it was a first time I was blown away with PS3 graphics, & still till this day amazing, The 2nd time was Uncharted 2.

As for the lies. 4 is a short list, I sure there are many more lies that can be exposed.
How abt the most recent of time. 'ME3 will have 16 endings'. loll

[NotSoSilentBob]

But the thing is KZ2 did look better then the "prerendered" video that was shown as this picture proves.

http://i.imgur.com/xxADY.jp...

[Mookie]

what about the latest lie
Vita can play ps3 games on remote play

[Hicken]

The system's been out for months. MONTHS. What system had all the features at launch that it did years later?

The 360 didn't launch with cross game chat, for example. The Wii, 3DS, and PS3 all have more features now than when they were first released on the market. What's the point in singling out one system that's hardly been out long enough to have everything going?

[Tommykrem]

I'd say, probably most systems in history.
But you're probably right, most recent systems are very different now from what they was at release.

[glennco]

Sony have always been known to lie their asses off when announcing a console yet anyone that says this gets shot down in flames. nothing like letting a fanboy war get in the way of the truth. just call it like it is. they release pretty damn good hardware BUT they still bullshit about the specs beforehand and disagreeing doesn't change the fact they are known for it.

[DragonKnight]

It isn't lying if they plan on doing something and then can't due to restrictions in budget or current tech. For that reason, I don't think Molyneux should be on the list. He clearly WANTED to put things like having babies in Fable 1, but for some reason couldn't. And uh, RROD cover up says hi btw.

[Frankfurt]

Final Fantasy XIII is one of the few 3rd party games that actually used the extra Blu-Ray space. Most opther 3rd party titles look better on the 360, simply because of the edRAM and also the unified RAM.

[Rageanitus]

honestly both MS and Sony have not lied about the features of their consoles.... its really the haters than bring out cons about a system and they make it seem like this big companies promised something when they DID NOT.

But one thing that I found evil about this gen is that MS made the RROD seem like it was nothing and it was NORMAL .

I still remember the days of KZ2 prerendered movies... Did sony say that was in game! NO yet many of the haters made it seem that Sony promised those graphics.

[MrBeatdown]

Biggest lie this generation...

The cake.

Thank you, thank you! I'll be here all week folks.

[Kos-Mos]

The biggest lie for me(this generation) was the box. I was promised a next gen console with next gen games beyond imagination and ended up with a clunky controller and a completely destroyed Perfect Dark. I became so furious that I sold it.

[theeg]

arguing over ps3 vs 360 is like arguing over vhs vs beta, who cares, they're 7-8 years old.

they both look outdated, lag like crazy with mostly peer to peer servers, have terrible framerates, tons of jaggies, pop-in, screen tear and that annoying day one dlc

time for new consoles

[MissAubrey]

well said

[AIndoria]

Again with Final Fantasy XIII? Give it a rest guys!

[MissAubrey]

ugh this place is ugly Im outta here....