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Publishers Get a Taste of "Shoe"

Electronic Gaming Monthly's Editor-in-Chief Dan "Shoe" Hsu has an interesting editorial in the latest edition of his magazine. The bulk of Hsu's column deals with topics familiar to VGMWatch.com readers: publishers bullying game publications; overly positive previews; and editorial integrity. In fact, Hsu himself has covered these issues in past columns before. However, what makes his latest editorial unique is what he's always shied away from doing in the past: it names names.

According to Hsu, Midway's Mortal Kombat development team, Sony's sports game division, and Ubisoft have all allegedly banned EGM from further coverage of their products. The reason: Apparently, they didn't take too kindly to EGM's review coverage of their games. Still, Hsu maintains that EGM "won't treat these products or companies any differently." We have yet to confirm these allegations with the publishers mentioned. However, if the editorial's claims are accurate, VGMWatch.com is certainly disappointed with these publishers' behavior. As corporations, publishers have every right to ban any publication they want for poor coverage. But that doesn't make it right. Gamers should feel disrespected as well.

VGMWatch.com staff will be contacting the companies involved with this story for further comment. In the mean time, readers may want to pick up the current issue of EGM to view Hsu's editorial for themselves.

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InYourMom5968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

"Midway’s Mortal Kombat development team, Sony’s sports game division, and Ubisoft have all allegedly banned EGM from further coverage of their products."

Hrm.. Looks like good 'ol Sony isn't above requesting slanted reviews.. Wasn't everyone going off on MS for paying off reviewers because of the Halo 3 goodies they send to them? Oh and who can forget EGM is on MS's payroll!

Looks like the jig is up Sony! Just another reason why I don't trust games reviewed for the Sony platform.

I applaud EGM for standing up to these publishers and exposing them for their dirty tricks.

Oh, and I love how you used a picture of Halo 3 for this when it should be a picture of Duderaider! Nice way to deflect!

felman875968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

each of Sony's different game divisions distribute their own games to publications. To get BUZZ or Singstar, you'd have to ask a different source than you'd have to in order to get GOW or Uncharted.

TANOD5968d ago

now ban GAMESPOT,1up and EUROGAMER ----horrible anti SONY websites

jackdoe5968d ago

How is that slanting reviews? Threatening to pull advertisement to get better reviews, that is slanting. Refusing to give out an early copy of your game and forcing the publication to go out and buy it like everyone else, that is just a natural right of publishers. They don't need to give anyone free games. Dan Hsu is just a primadona who thinks the world revolves around him.

icechai5967d ago

more people need to look at jackdoe's comment, these companies aren't pulling advertising, they simply are not sending in preview copies of their games (which apparently EGM feel is their god-given right to get their hands on every pre-release game from every major company).

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CeruleanSky5968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

You have to be joking...

The worlds biggest Microsoft media whore for their overhyped Halo 3 game, Dan Hsu is writing an article about 'video game media' INTEGRITY!!!

LOL!!!!

This is the clown who tried to tell everyone that after the realtime Killzone 2 E3 trailer was unveiled last year - you know the one that Xbox fans claimed wouldn't be possible until the PS4 - and the realtime PS3 graphics matched the original Killzone 2 trailer shot for shot in quality that it didn't look as good a Gears of War...LOL!

This is the clown who out of the blue made up an 'award' for best AI and shockingly, LOL!, gave it to Halo 3, LOL!, last year and somehow put Killzone 2 at the bottom of the list of, uh, competitors even though the game was still a year from release with nothing more than a graphics demo shown!

This is the clown who works at a place, EGM/1UP, that effectively functions as a place for Xbox fans to get hired away to Microsoft by spouting constant pro-Xbox BS. Four people from EGM/1Up have been hired away to Microsoft in just the past year. 0 people from EGM/1Up have been hired away to Nintendo. 0 people from EGM/1Up have been hired away to Sony.

This is the clown whose site tried to do damage control for Halo 3's 640p last gen graphics by trying to claim there was some sort of 'subtle beauty' that other games lacked in comparison. LOL!

This is the clown whose site seems to mention or hype Halo in every single piece they put out.

This disgusting whore of a fanboy is writing a column about 'media integrity'???

If you had any hesitation in believing that game media and 'reviewers' had hit rock bottom in credibility...

InYourMom5968d ago

that has waayyyyy more gaming/professional creditials than a PS3 fanboy on N4G could ever have?

LOL

Genki5968d ago (Edited 5968d ago )

That little quip deserves a "LOL" by itself. Tell me, what exactly is so prestigious about so called "gaming credentials"?

Don't drink too much of that kool-aid now...these professionals can't tell you or me how to like or dislike a game any better than you or I can. This word professional gets tossed around way too often, and people give it far too much leverage. So someone who gets paid to play games is more "qualified" to give OPINIONS on games than anyone else? Please spare me.

Gaming journalism has been circling the drain for a while now, and the internet sure isn't helping matters.

This is getting dangerous though, and more so for Sony than Ubi or the MK team. With this, we know Sony is obligated to provide content and products to their officially sponsored magazine...so how are people supposed to view their reviews from here on out? It's quite a pickle, and this sort of move could potentially put them under the microscope as much as Gamespot has been as of late.

Not a good move on Sony's part, but let's be real here...if you side with either one you're a jackass. Praising EGM or the publishers doesn't make you an correct, it makes you just as sheepish as the next fanboy, because they're as full of it as any other corporation. Things are only getting worse with how mainstream games are, and IMO, this coupled with recent events only makes ALL the players look bad.

socomnick5968d ago

Cerulean shut up already how is it that you have so many bubbles.

toughNAME5968d ago

lets get those bubbbbles down

rofldings5968d ago

Just to piss off the two tards above me, bubbles for CeruleanSky.

phoenixtilt5968d ago

Did you play Halo 3 or are you speaking from your Butt?

KillZone 2 trailer real time and CG was closer then I thought but it was not shot for shot.. but it did look nice... The thing about KillZone 2..is it is doomed to go the way of..umm Kill Zone 1. I was looking forward to kill zone 1.. but then when i played it.. it was like yeah..ok im done .. and Im more then sure Killzone 2 will be the same.

ppl like halo3 for the multiplayer that is why so many fan boy it. that is why so many ppl love halo 3.. I think halo2 story blew monkey butt but the multiplayer..you cant look past same for halo 3.. the story got better but the multiplayer is still top notch. Also with the Graphics I was the most hateing person on The halo graphics till I played it and seen it in motion.. They do look good while youre playing it. so sorry , but there is no way Kill Zone is going to be a top notch winner. It might be okay for single player (i hope) but the multiplayer if there is one. will be no way near halo 3's and you can click that disagree all you want... COD4 Multiplayer is fun it is a pc style, UT fun it is a pc style.. but HALO's is fun it is a console style...

Big Jim5968d ago

Well said Cerulean. 1UP is a total MS whore site, and Hsu is the biggest Halo 3 whore in history. Hsu's comment that Halo 3 "has a subtle beauty" is the dummest thing I have ever heard anyone say about anything. Subtle? Halo 3? Nothing about Halo 3 is subtle in any way. Hsu and 1UP are some of the biggest whores in the business.

KidMakeshift5968d ago

They're not game "journalist." They're gaming enthusiast really and that's about it. Just like a movie "critic" is really just a movie enthusiast. They're no better than any of us, but unfortunately their opinions affect us and the success of the product they're either praising or criticizing.

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Lord Anubis5968d ago

submitting games/products does not mean advertisement.

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Fighter5968d ago

Sony's MLB game was pretty good but I can't say the same for NBA 08. I'm not surprised by Ubisoft because EGM gave Assassins a low score but how will Shoe respond to the xbox exclusive Splinter Cell since he's clearly an Xbox 360 fanboy.

Lordimus5968d ago

If EGM is correct and has proof that they were pulled due to poor reviews then that is a shame. I don't agree that Halo was 10 but it is a solid and good game full of innovation.
Sharing, editing and recording is a huge deal.
I wouldn't say they are xbox slaves. They have rated 3's to many 360 games. GOD did those games deserve it too.
Superman Returns: The Videogame 3
Shrek the 3rd 3
Vampire Rain 3

Reviews do carry weight with the casual gamers though.
I applaud EGM for standing up to the publishers and bringing this to light. A game shouldn't be reviewed by only select gaming mags.
I have played some great games in my time and the only reason i tried them was due to great reviews. Beyond good and evil, Okami, Indigo prophecy, etc.
Sadly, it seems the duds that get HORRID reviews still sell.

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Former Dragon Age lead writer David Gaider pours scorn on EA's AI dreams.

"They want you to believe the devs under them are super stoked to work generative AI into their processes," continued Gaider, "but I assure you what they took as excitement was really a veiled wail of despair not unlike the time that team was informed of their new 'really cool' live service mandate.".

LordoftheCritics1d 7h ago

Publishers see gaming as another stock market.

isarai1d 6h ago

I think anyone with some common sense knew this, im glad i don't support their games anymore, what a sh!t company.

Psychonaut8514h ago

Friends don’t let friends buy EA or Ubisoft.

Chocoburger14h ago

I said this yesterday. AI isn't what we want when it comes to crafting artistry. Alas, these soulless corporate morons don't care about their work, only about cutting corners as much as possible.

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Phil Spencer and the Battle for Xbox’s Soul

Has the rapid growth of Xbox made the ship too heavy? Following the closures of Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, and Roundhouse, we explore what the future of Xbox could look like.

LG_Fox_Brazil1d 11h ago

This ship was never meant to sail, this ship was made from the get go to sink as fast as possible. It almost feels that they want to lower the standards of quality in the industry so that they can fit in

rlow117h ago

I disagree, Xbox from the get go innovated and changed the industry. They did a lot of firsts and standardized a lot of others. It wasn’t till the beginning of the Xbox1 era that things started to go south.

Stevonidas13h ago

Yep, although I’d argue it started going to shit when they tried to hock Kinect on their audience instead of continuing to invest in their studios and IPs. 2001-2010 Xbox was peak gaming, though.

rlow112h ago

@Stevonidas
I agree they never should have focused on it after the 360 era. But you do have to remember they were faked out by the huge volumes of Kinects sold. To quote info on Wikipedia, “Project Natal, It was first released on November 4, 2010, and would go on to sell eight million units in its first 60 days of availability.” So if your Xbox and see these huge sales on a peripheral where are you going to put some money? Criticism in hindsight is worthless…..if only we could all see our future. In other wards they had no way of knowing. Plus they had engagement numbers and a lot of signs pointed to people wanting it.

Their biggest mistake wasn’t the Kinect, but unlike Sony after the PS3 debacle. They didn’t double on down on exclusive good games. The other huge mistake was letting Call of Duty go to Sony.

Hedstrom20h ago

Phil wants Xbox to be as soulless as him!

Tacoboto20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Xbox has no soul and Phil has no confidence, and it's impossible to say either do when they killed Tango and Arkane Austin.

Everything they've said since has only made them look worse to a point that they're actually less competent than Embracer.

Markdn19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Whe you release something like the series S and expect it not to hurt your business model, and developers have to have parity with games. Then you know Microsoft don't care. Series s is the final nail that broke developers,

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Sarah Bond dodges questions on Xbox studio closures

While on stage with Dina Bass at The Bloomberg Technology Summit the President of Xbox, Sarah Bond, was asked about the Xbox studio closures of Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, Alpha Dog, and Roundhouse Studios

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ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Of course she did. She's part of the problem and will just tow the company line.

VenomUK2d ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Bloomberg’s Dina Bass could barely read her scripted question without looking at her notes, whilst Sarah Bond who WAS expecting the question spoke without saying anything of substance or answering the question in any meaningful way. Clearly she’s had the same expert PR training as Phil, but this avoidance was disrespectful. In time the short-sighted decision to shut down Tango Gameworks will be seen as of the most notorious examples why Phil Spencer messed up his tenure in charge of Xbox. That’s a fully built out talented team that could’ve been put to work on any project.

Additionally, Phil Spencer should not be using Sarah Bond as a patsy for his mistakes- he should be answering that question.

gleepot1d 21h ago

I think you are all really overselling Tangos value. Hi-Fi rush was a lot of fun. Ghostwire was incredibly dull. Evil within 1 and 2 were just okay.

lucasnooker1d 21h ago

Evil within 2 was incredibly under rated. I thought that game was surprisingly good

NotoriousWhiz1d 18h ago

Someone else said it best. I don't think it was a Phil decision. It was most likely a Satya decision. I think Microsoft is done giving out free money to Xbox.

Cacabunga1d 15h ago

people please boycott Activision Bethesda next release and support Hellblade.
these people mus understand that they cannot treat their fans and employees that way.
scumbags.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Yikes you don't help Sarah 😬 making a problem worse

Christopher1d 23h ago

She's playing her role. There's absolutely nothing any of them can say other than the truth, this is about profit margins and not quality, so they just don't answer anything and wait for gamers to forget.

shinoff21831d 13h ago

I think news is coming of more ps5 release but they gotta be careful cause Xbox is still sitting on store shelves. They can't get left holding all that stock

Lightning771d 11h ago

Come next month they'll flash nice looking games in our faces and expecting us to forget.

The only thing that'll be going through my mind at their showcase is how many of those studios will get shut down after release.

I'm not joking around either. MS probably expects every game to be like COD and do COD numbers. What a way to destroy gaming for the entire industry because they're dumb af at being realistic in what success means for each game.

-Foxtrot1d 10h ago

Always feels she was brought in / promoted for this. Happened just before things started to be out in motion.

Phil and co have someone to throw under the bus and share the blame with

zaanan1d 14h ago

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

darthv721d 5h ago

....won't get fooled again

Hofstaderman2d ago

Like a deer caught in the headlights.....

notachance2d ago

I always wondered why xbox had multiple leaders with similar titles like Phil Spencer, Matt Booty, and Sarah Bond, like, how many heads do you actually need?

Seems to me it would be more cost efficient to cut 2 of them instead of all those studios.

DarXyde1d 22h ago

Frankly, I suspect she is the most competent of them. I don't mean that I like her more, I mean that she's the best at articulating herself and giving the talking points MS wants to give. The others are starting to sound more like her than her sounding like any of them.

Are any of these people "responsible" for what's happening? No. This reeks of Nadella. But that being said, I don't see any of the Xbox heads stepping down in protest.

"Don't shoot the messenger", sure, but at the same time, the messengers don't seem to take umbrage with the message. Not enough to remove themselves from it, anyway.

CS71d 10h ago

I disagree. Nadella is looking for profit as a CEO should in my opinion.

The problem is Dr. Phil & Co. had 10 years to bring Xbox back on track and have been failing woefully.

Phil needs to sell to Nadella that if we are to make a profit, we need to make great games. And to do that we need employees here for the long haul and the freedom to work on creative projects.

But as Phil said himself he doesn’t believe great games sell consoles.

RpgSama1d 16h ago

Dude, 100%, forgot Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg, like what is the point for all these suits? They have more C-level executives than games released in a generation.

This is just so they can all pass along the hot potato one at a time and in between all of them can say a lot without actually saying anything, misinformation at its finest.

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