Ex-BioWare employee leaks info on Mass Effect 3's post-ending DLC

Ex-employee leaks info on Terminator DLC [post-ending], and a new game called Mass Shift.

[VanillaBear]

If this is true then wow...just wow

"and according to him, has been in production for months."

Knew it....I knew that because they couldn't get the new ending finished that they would just end it the way it did and then continue working on the rest of the ending as DLC.

See...fans "complaining" about the ending or not we all still would of had to pay for the real ending. So the people blaming ME fans for getting Bioware to change the ending and telling them they should of stuck to their guns....guess what you guys were being pulled along the whole time.

" is about the part crash landing on a Prothean planet on the edge of Sol, and then they have to figure out a way to make contact with the rest of the system and get off the planet.”

I don't understand so Bioware ARE NOT going with the indoctrinated theory

But then the plotholes are still there, why did the Normandy flee the battle and how did my squad mates that were hit by the laser get onto the Normandy. It means that the riduclous choices were real and the whole thing aboard the cruicble like Hackett knowing Shepard was there, Anderson getting to the controls before him etc were all real......but then again the ending which showed Shepard alive he was lying in stone ruble like on Earth so the ending wouldn't of happened and the fact if the ending really did happen and the Mass Relays blew up then everyone would be dead anyway........so confused

As for "Mass Shift".......REALLY Bioware

Wasn't ME3 action based enough, didn't you guys turn ME into more action based games anyway.

[Simon_Brezhnev]

The indoctrinate theory are just fans way to justify ME3 endings. They couldnt accept it had a bad ending. People shouldnt be surprised all bioware games have a shit tone of dlc after release.

[RedDead]

The indocrinate theory makes more sense than the actual bloody ending

Also this new Dlc crap sounds **** too.

[da_2pacalypse]

I'll say it once again, I refuse to pay for anymore Bioware products. They have continually dumbed down their product in order to generate more sales. It sucks that EA has done this to Bioware. I really really hate EA -_-

What a slap in the face....

PS. the twitter confirmation is a bunch of BS... Of course they're going to deny it -_- lol

[ShinMaster]

People shouldn't have to research online or watch theory videos about indoctrination to feel like they got a good ending after 5 years of playing the series.

And EVEN IF that theory was true, it means they pre-planned this by selling people a game with a "fake" ending only to make them pay for the real/complete ending later.

Or maybe we did get the real ending and it just happened to be crap.

Either way, just no. If there IS any DLC, let's hope it's free.... for those who still care.

[dc1]

Really hope they are addressing the plot-holes within the changes as part of the DLC release.
- It would help if the release is free as a good-will gesture ( although I'm not holding my breath).

.. The fake Shepard/EDI/Catalyst synthetic (in a post Mass Relay system) is a hot mess.

If true, I don't see how Bioware brings this together. So sad...

[Nimblest-Assassin]

He said that Shepard was severely injured but still alive, and he must end a war, so maybe the indoc theory is still a go, and I am hoping so due to the sheer amount of plot holes in the ending.

Also the indoc theory states the ending we saw occured in Shepards mind, and he only wakes up at the end of the best destroy ending, and his body is ripped apart in the synthesis and control endings. Meaning the indoc theory could have some validity.

I can not believe that Bioware would accidently make all those plot holes, their must have been some meaning to it, and they keep telling people to analyse the ending fully.

The dude who leaked this stated "apparently a lighting technician, first spoke of Electronic Arts and how they are “stifling” the creative processes at BioWare. He pleaded at fans to not be angry with BioWare, who he believes still love making games and love its fans, and has requested to “speak with your money” as it’s only language “EA Games” understand."

I agree, EA really started killing ME with all this Dlc stuff.

Also, this dlc was something that I have heard about for sometime now, it was called the truth beforehand when I heard about it, but the details are pretty much the same.

I really hope, Bioware makes this terminator ending free(i thought some James Cameron was involved)as a sign of good faith for the fans, it will really help against all the "death to bioware" and "hold the line" stuff going on.

Also, this ending should make all our choices matter, so people can stop joking about the only difference was the colors.

Also, Mass Shift seems like a cool idea, but Bioware is known for RPG's not action games, sure I enjoyed the gameplay in Me2 and Me3 and recently downloaded Me1, and the gameplay is vastly superior in 2 and 3 due to the more stream-lined approach.

But there are people disappointed with this trend moving towards action. I think Casey Hudsons Bioware studio in Edmonton needs to do something to win those people back, make a game with more RPG mechanics than action KOTOR 3 ANYONE? And give mass shift to a different Bioware studio( the new one behind command and conquer)

Its sad to see that a formerly great studio is going down due to EA's shady buisness pratices, especially when you see how passionate Bioware is about the games they make.

Make the dlc free and show the fans that you are not EA's puppet. I will buy it if it costs money to support Bioware, not Ea even though that money will still go to them.

Please Bioware, get your sh*t together and make us love you back when Kotor came out.

My favorite RPG of all time.

[snipes101]

Well if this is the case, which I hope it isnt, at least it has been made clear that EA has been screwing things up at Bioware.

[Blacktric]

It is great to see how some people are getting all riled up over a post on 4Chan... Seriously? A couple months ago some guy also leaked info about GTA V and said main protagonist dies at the end of the game and you take control of his brother after that and also said that the map is twice the size of Liberty City in GTA IV. Now some other guy claims that the map will be 5 times larger than GTA IV Liberty City and protagonist will NOT die. Do NOT believe this crap until Bioware comes out and says so.

[grahf]

4chan....
Fact: 4chan is quite possibly the most reliable place for accurate information on the entire interwebs....
If you liek mudkips...
/facepalm

Are we sure the OP didn't end with a trip to Bel Aire?

[PinkPartyPony]

These are called rumors for a reason, and anyone who treats them otherwise is an idiot, but 4chan does have a history of attracting those with information.

For example, last month the director for the walking dead went on 4chan he brought pics to prove his story though.
Which now we know are real. He also gave explicit details about next season.

[andibandit]

For anyone who dosnt want to click on the article:

new ending is "Now you can also get a brown colored explosion".

[Kurt Russell]

I am amused by the comments now this has proven to be fake hehe :D

[ThichQuangDuck]

In before death to bioware comments.....

[ziggurcat]

too late.

[ThichQuangDuck]

If this is true, this is how everyone at Bioware and Rockstar working hard currently feels

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Nimblest-Assassin]

Sooooooo........

The people at Bioware and Rockstar are enjoying a delicious bowl of Admiral Akbars Cereal?

What?

[ThichQuangDuck]

Ha I more meant the trap part of the extra toy in the cereal box being dlc taken out or stuff revealed before it could be revealed properly. Really I just wanted to post a clip of robot chicken...

[EditorAtGNG]

4chan... the internet graveyards. I have a hard time believing this but, eh...

[Burning_Finger]

Fist Square-Enix, now EA. You have to pay extra to see the real ending of the game. smfh. This generation sucks ass monkey b****.

People might as well wait until it reaches the $19.99 or lower value to get your money's worth.

[Infernostew]

Waiting has been the smartest thing to do this gen. So many "GOTY" editions and 75% price drops within a year of a game's release.

[Pintheshadows]

"Fist Square-Enix"

Best spelling mistake of the day.

[ShinraE5]

Not going to react until we see some confirmed info on some post game DLC.

If this IS true (a very big if), however, then you got to love what EA is doing to Bioware and their games.

Oh well, definitely looking forward to seeing if this is true and the reaction to it.

Hopefully consumers learn to vote with their dollar...but that is something we haven't seen much of this generation...

[ziggurcat]

the reaction is obviously going to be a lot of crying, maybe a petition, and more selfish donations to charity to try and get bioware to change the ending of the ending.

[undercovrr]

lol...``selfish donation to charity`` you`re an idiot

[rdgneoz3]

"more selfish donations to charity"

Yes, cause donating to a charity for sick kids is really really selfish...

[denero1]

He's right you went into idiot territory in because we have no mass relays chances of return are 0%

[Simon_Brezhnev]

You cant just blame it all on EA, Bioware are at fault too. I recall their one of the only studios in EA with the most freedom.

[Topshelfcheese]

They have there own label within EA, i would say they have THE most freedom.

Aside from all that, I still enjoyed the game a lot and even though it had an Inception type ending I still liked it, because I loved Inception.

[--Onilink--]

Sounds like bs...

[--Onilink--]

mass shift??? you people disagreeing actually think that sounds like a real name??

[grahf]

Sounds like a pile of mass sh** to me...

[vikingland1]

The leak says don't get mad at bioware. So it's EA that made bioware do these things hhmmm interesting.

[SageHonor]

Of course, EA is the publisher.

[49erguy]

Those are some HEAVY spoilers there if its true. I thought he was going to leak a few bulletpoints, but he leaked more than that!

[SageHonor]

Hmmm,

[jaymart2k]

I predict when Bioware announces it's $5-$10 people will be like wtf Bioware. Now we got to pay for a ending we should of had.

This is bs,bla bla bla bla

Protest the game, bla bla bla bla

Welcome to the internet :) Smiles

[Mythicninja]

I call bullshit and trolling

[dragonelite]

Same here that would make even less sense than the ending. And Mass shift god no this is the last game i will buy from bioware(head studio) unless they redeem themselves. Maybe the dlc if it is good.

[dc1]

I hope you are right!

[JonnyBigBoss]

BioWare is by far my least favorite developer right now.

[rhap]

Competing with Blizzard for me.

[soundslike]

*Clamors for more closure*

*gets closure, complains*

[grahf]

For the super super low unbelievable price of $10 you too can get the true ending to a story that has spanned years and that fans have already plunked down $250 to get the full experience!

I can't wait to play this now. Just to see how bad it is. Anyone want to sell me their copy? Maybe let me borrow it? I'll send it back once im done and if you decide to pay for the real ending.

Me, I'll watch it on youtubes.

[Pintheshadows]

I'm not sure I believe this tbh.

[Intentions]

Hey i'm from a ex game studio as well its called "i don't know if this is real or not studios"

[Megaton]

Doubt it's real, hope it's fake. Sounds like they wanna keep dragging out Shepard's character into some sequel that really doesn't sound very good, if this were to be true.

[WitWolfy]

Kinda defeats the point of calling it a "trilogy" then, doesnt it? If they wanna add a sequel to it.

[GraveLord]

Post-ending DLC? Really? Has the video game industry really come to this? Disgusting.

[JaredH]

So Fallout 3's post-ending DLC didn't happen 3 years ago? The industry's been disgusting for 3 years by that logic then but I might actually agree with that.

[ChickeyCantor]

You mean they are a business?
Gee...what a shocker.

[jaymart2k]

Fallout 3 the other one that comes to memory.

[STONEY4]

A lot of this sounds pretty sketchy. It also completely contradicts the link below, which was leaked by someone who actually has credibility. This person previously leaked info and even the price for the LotSB DLC in ME2 months before it was even known about.

http://i.imgur.com/xjXdX.pn...

Also, some straw gasping... (Priestly's reply to the Terminator DLC and Mass Shift)

http://i43.tinypic.com/152o...

[dc1]

Thanks man! you made my day/night. It looks like the indoctrination has a lot of baring on the 'current' ending. And, after watching the similarities.. and playing the ending again, it make sense.

You links provide further clarity that this this is the case.

[PinkPartyPony]

That, detective, is the right question.

[Lucreto]

I am calling it fake.

The volus without a suit would die in seconds. He requires the suit as the gravity is higher and they breath different gases than humans.

[Megaton]

A volus antagonist is ridiculous enough on its face. Volus would not fit that role well.

[SageHonor]

Biotic God says hi

[Megaton]

Exactly my point. He was comic relief, ridiculous. The closest thing the ME universe has to a real volus villain is Barla Von.

[honkyjesus]

Back to the nerd factory...

[ufo8mycat]

I will be pirating this one.

Thanks Bioware.

No $$$ for you

I am against piracy, but this is definitely one of those times where it is justified.

[Chuk5]

You're justified in pirating, because of a rumour on 4chan?

Just admit, you're a pirating jerk. It's a lot more honest.

[WitWolfy]

Nah why pirate??? I hate the ending myself. BUT that didnt stop me from owning it on PS3 and 360 LEGITIMATELY!

The point im trying to make here is, just think about the publishers they worked LONG hours making a game we couldn't make in our wildest dreams! This is supposed to be entertainment, and the ME series has entertained me A LOT through the years :) so mission accomplished BW CONGRATS!

[No_Pantaloons]

This will be the most pirated dlc ever, watch.

[Raider69]

you shoud have pirate the game too!I did!

[gamingisnotacrime]

i would be ok with it if it was advertised as a game with an incomplete ending, to be bought later as dlc. then i would have the free will to decide if i buy into this idea or not.

BUT, i bought ME3 midnaight launch thinking it was a finish to the trilogy. now to know that i bought a game that prepares the stage for the DLC to conclude the trilogy is just BS.

IF this is true, fk bioware

[susanto1228]

This is just pathetic and it keeps getting worse for Bioware....who the hell is going to buy DA 3? Only the misinformed. I expect more leaks to come through the internet in the next couple of months I got a feeling there is in-fighting over at Bioware at the employee lounge man this isn't good.

[SeraphimBlade]

Hmm... not sure what to make of this. I just feel like you would go somewhere other than 4chan.

I'd be willing to buy it. But I definitely don't plan on making any hasty Bioware purchases in the future because I ain't going through this crap again...

[KingItachi]

I say this is fake, why are people still grasping at straws with the indoctrinated theory.

[sugadaddy]

4chan user

That's all I needed to know.

[honkyjesus]

Bioware says it is false... so? Doesn't even putting this up mean you wouldn't listen to any developer statement?

PS how can they have DLC with Shepard after the entire galaxy explodes in front of your face at the ending.

Spoilers above.

[greatcrusader44]

Hmm so this supposed dlc leak is deemed by bioware to be false. But the other dlc leak (the truth) which goes with indoctrination theory as it's foundation is left untouched by bioware. Wonder why, maybe cuz that ones not fake

[Megaton]

They said that one was fake, too. They laughed at the idea of releasing DLC called "The Truth". They obviously wouldn't confirm any of these things even if they were real.

[NewZealander]

If they relays blew up how do all the alien fleets get back to there planets? my main concern with they ending was, where was my crew did they die or survive, all I knew was joker,edi and ashly were alive on some planet they crashed but were was the rest of my team on earth? or dead?, hope they answer this in this DLC

[WitWolfy]

They will eventually, im starting to think BW are pulling a Capcom stunt on us! We ALL need to to wait for the ME 3 Ultimate EDITION ("Street Fighter TURBO Edition") to see how things REALLY play out!

Thats my theory.. Otherwise we are going to get a director's cut... EVENTUALLY...

[--Onilink--]

no shit it was fake... mass shift??? dlc to continue the ending that happens on the most non-sensical part of the whole thing?? i mean c'mon... its not that hard to spot something that fake...

[NewZealander]

the indoctrination theory is BS, people are clutching at straws because the have no other way of explaining the ending, hell they may as well claim shepard was just having a bad dream, if he was indoctrinated they would make a twist like that far more obvious.

on one hand the ending was fantastic, it had drama emotion and cool twists, on the other hand it was crap because it answered pretty much nothing.

[ChickeyCantor]

***SPOILERS*

" they would make a twist like that far more obvious. "

1: Breathing in space?
2: Synthesis kid? Specifically the one who you saw get killed.
3: Not questioning anything which are obviously wrong in the realm of Mass Effect.
4: Why was joker on a relay during battle leaving shepard?
5: Why do the ones with you who supposedly die by Harbingers beam walk out of the crashed normandy?
6: Why pick the third option if you fought so hard for the geth and believed Edi has the right to be an individual. The geth actually help the Quarians. Why let everything be for nothing?
7: Why was Shepard still alive and not on the citadel at all? ( secret ending )

7 points alone which make the ending a big question mark and not closure at all. And I bet there are tons more.

Besides the 3 choices are clearly metaphors:

Control = becoming Tim or Saren, the reapers make you believe you are in control while in fact you are not.

Synthesis = giving in/up. You can't win it so you join them.

Destruction = freeing yourself. Determined to destroy the reapers no matter what. Overcoming the indoctrination.

Besides the kid even says that the destruction option won't last for long. Why would he say something like that?

Far too many plot holes you can't ignore. Bioware had this planned from the beginning. The indoctrination is highly likable. Lets not forget that Shepard is in fact a product of synthesis in some way thanks to Cerberus.

It can be "BS", but with so many plot holes?

[--Onilink--]

twists and non-sense are not the same... and the only drama and emotion i could find was in the music, which pretty much makes any video emotional, just look at the marauder shields video, even that feels emotional...

[NewZealander]

i found it emotional when Shepard got struck by harbinger, his struggle to fight off the remaining enemies and make it aboard the citadel.

i found it to be a great twist meeting the AI behind the whole thing, his circular logic may be nuts, but i thought it was great how it presented itself in a form Shepard could relate to, the boy who was the face of the war on humanity, the face of the ones Shepard could not save, that was very emotional.

so many questions need to be answered, problem is i don't care anymore, im over this whole drama, bioware and ea messed up big time, im not buying any dlc for this game, infact ill probably never play it again, i have never NEVER played a game that didnt have a finished ending, even halo 2 was a more complete ending, you knew where everyone was and what was going on.

i loved the ideas bioware had, but they screwed up, i dont know how they could get it so wrong, overall this was the worst ending to a trillogy EVER, hell its the worst ending in gaming history.

[tweet75]

this DLC better Be FREE! or else the fan backlash will be so bad they wont buy product from the company in the future.

[Warny55]

I don't understand the indoctrination theory most people are adapting to try and explain the crappy and plot hole ridden ending to the me3 trilogy first it was already developed in the first mission of first game that shep had the ability to withstand reaper control nicknamed " the fighter" many times by harbinger and the reapers in first two games also if he had been indoctrinated since the second game why would the reapers been attempting to murder him wherever he went unlike how they were practically working together with Cerberus on the citadel and on Thessia also wouldn't shep simply agree with the illusive man on the citadel and show the same physical side effects as him the entire games storyline based to the other 2 made no sense not because it was planned by Bioware to simply be a dream or the side effects of indoctrination but because they got lazy and threw together stupid plotlines like rachni queen still being alive in that cave even if you murder her in the first game or even the teleporter beam that's used to get into citadel. first how'd get there second there's no way shep would have survived being blast that far up i.e first game where use same tactic and even shuttle plated with armor gets destroyed on the way , now how do explain an injured human with 0 armor because apparently n7 armor gets completely incinatated by reapers beams from head to toe....... they didn't care