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Feature: Kara and Sony's Creative Risks

Push Square reflects on the recent Kara presentation and discusses Sony's contribution and innovation with creative risks in gaming. Titles such as Journey, Flower and Heavy Rain show that Sony are willing to invest and support new gaming experiences.

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StrongMan4437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

Sony is the only one out of the big three that is giving gamers fresh mew IPs and taking risks. Nintendo is only giving us multiple iterations of Mario and Microsoft is only giving us multiple different variations of Halo, Forza, and Fable. How can gamers not respect Sony?

from the beach4437d ago

Sony is giving us multiple iterations of God of War, Resistance, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank..

I'm not saying this is a bad thing, quite the opposite - they're good games so why not make more.

But recognise that it applies across the board and not solely to Nintendo or MS.

CGI-Quality4437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

Yes but he's saying that Sony is giving gamers fresh new material in addition to keeping fans of previous IPs happy. You're right, nothing wrong with that, but he's arguing for variety, which Sony leads the pack in right now.

OT: VERY well written article!

Eu4437d ago

"Sony is giving us multiple iterations of God of War, Resistance, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank.." TOO.

Tere, i made it right. While you have a point, there is no doubt that Sony is the only one in the big tree that went as far as they did with new IPs this gen.

StrongMan4437d ago

Of course Sony does sequels too and nothing wrong with that but for every PS3 sequel there are your Heavy Rains, your MAGs and still releasing new IPs six years later like The Last of Us, The Last Guardian, and the Sony smash bros. game while Microsoft is only giving us different variations of sequels like Forza 4/Forza Horizon, Fable 3/Fable: The Journey/Fable XBLA game, Halo ODST/Halo Reach/Halo 4 and you know there will be a Halo 4 ODST next year.

Each gen's console race is different. Don't MS will automatically do great next gen by forcing Kinect and only giving core gamers more Halo, Forza, and Fable.

catfrog4437d ago

you do realize that two of the properties you mentioned there are new this gen, right?

btw, every publisher is going to need to do sequels, they're less risk then new ips, sony has been funding new titles the entire gen, which is something that cant be said about the other platform holders.

from the beach4437d ago

There's two aspects here - first that all three companies pump out sequels and it's great.

We seem to agree on this even though my comment has received a lot of disagrees, lol.

The second aspect is that Sony is seen as "the only" company taking risks on new franchises.

No, I don't agree with that.

Nintendo Wii pretty much has its own entire library distinct from 360 and PS3, full of quirky and original stuff.

The 360 has, I would estimate - and it would be very interesting to see a list produced! - as many new franchises than PS3, naturally taking all of Kinect and XBLA into account.

BitbyDeath4437d ago

@from the beach,
they're not just talking about new IPs, they're meaning whole new game types or twists on current types.

Ie. Starhawk (build and battle), LBP (Play, Create, Share), Heavy Rain (choose your own path/adventure) etc

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THC CELL4437d ago

because xbox fans are brain dead.. If it was not for sony most games will not be out today.

Series_IIa4437d ago

THC CELL has just admitted he is an xbox fanboy.

GribbleGrunger4437d ago

see, this is what creates division on this site and not just heated discussion. why do you feel it necessary to get personal like that? generalising isn't healthy if it relates to a 'group'. that's how fascism started and still continues today.

if certain 'individuals' attack you then fair enough, but stop it with this nonsense. when i read comments like that it's understandable that when I make a positive Sony comment (because i am a fan of Sony) people automatically jump on it and consider it fanboy

BitbyDeath4437d ago

I agree with gribble, how do you only have 3 bubbles? +1 for intelligence

Virtual_Reality4437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

With QD developing new Ideas and fresh games for PS3 while CCP developing a revolutionary MMOFPS, DUST 514 on PS3, you know Sony is open to new and risky ideas.

lover20124437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

i have all the respect in the world for
the company that are willing to take risks
yes they did make in this gen from their new ips
a lot of sequels
but at the same time
they keep bring unique games and new ips along with them
even at the end of this gen they still have a lot of new ips incoming for ps3
like the last of us / the last guardian
the new ip from guerrilla
the new ip from QD and the new IP from SSM along with the new god of war

that's why ps3 is my favorite console this gen

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CarlitoBrigante4437d ago

Sony

The innovator of hardware and entertainment:

walkman
dvd
bluray
playstation
etc

BuffMordecai4437d ago

Sony innovates, Microsoft stagnates.

OcularVision4437d ago

N4G is so full of Sony fanboys, that saying anything even remotely negative about anything related to Sony is garner a storm of hate. Good bye N4G.

OcularVision4437d ago

tThe disagrees only validate my point.

Hicken4437d ago

The disagrees are just that: disagrees. It means people don't agree with what you've said. They don't have to be Sony fanboys. They may not even LIKE Sony.

Yet because you've taken the stance you have, you've created a self-fulfilling prophecy, in which you say something that you can easily predict people will disagree with. Then, because of the nature of what you said, you can say their actions "prove" that what you said is right.

Some of the most anti-Sony people on this site have the largest bubble counts not given to a moderator. On the other hand, I'm about as pro-Sony as you can get without being a fanboy(not that that protects me from being called one), yet here I sit with one bubble. If what you said was true, I'd at LEAST have my standard three.

Don't only look for what you want to see. Don't only expect to have the results you want. This place is FAR from a Sony haven; however, bringing in biased negativity to a positive- and true- Sony article WILL get lots of disagrees. Blatant lies WILL be met with hate.

The same is true of Nintendo, PC, and Microsoft threads, though, so I really don't see what you're getting at.

Bathyj4437d ago

N4G IS so full of fanboys, that saying anything positive about Sony and negative about Xbox gets you labeled a fanboy.

Bathyj4437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

Sorry, Double post.

MySwordIsHeavenly4436d ago

It's ok. It was an Xbox fanboy site from 2005 to 2010, so this is payback.

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Bathyj4437d ago

Greats article, well written.

Sony are carrying this generation as far as I'm concerned. 30 years of gaming but I think I would have given up by now if it werent for them.

I'm just glad this sort of bravery is being acknowledged and rewarded.

bahabeast4437d ago

sony's biggest problem this generation was america, for some reason american analyst, journalist, and kids bashed sony for no reason what so eva. sony brought the best in every genre in all fields of the game sony delivered IMO

MySwordIsHeavenly4436d ago

Agreed. They need to acknowledge that the general public in America will buy anything the television tells them to buy. As an American, it makes me sad...but it's true.

bahabeast4436d ago

you are the first american who agrees with the truth bro.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers8d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken8d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g8d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing8d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H98d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola8d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6698d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle8d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg9d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos9d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola9d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies29d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken29d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga29d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken29d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6429d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long29d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197229d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic29d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12529d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91329d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer29d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91328d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit28d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher29d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6928d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit28d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher29d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken29d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197229d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic29d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2329d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218329d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder29d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts29d ago

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