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Square-Enix gets dissed in rap song 'Letter To SquareSoft' (PSU.com)

Richie Branson is a rapper who is also proud to call himself a gamer – and a pretty ticked off one at that. He proves his gamer cred not by rapping about popping bottles in clubs, or mackin’ babes, oh no, no; Branson drops an open letter to SqareSoft (note: not Square-Enix) about how he misses the games of yesteryear.

Titled ‘Letter To SquareSoft,’ the song praises older RPGs like Final Fantasy VII, Kingdom Hearts, and Chrono Trigger, all the while scrutinizing Square’s last few years as a studio with lyrics like “I want the old SquareSoft back, I really mean it. That’s why I never called you guys Square-Enix.”

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knifefight4437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

The message of the piece kinda reminds me of this
http://www.gamerevolution.c...
"Angry customer: Hey! I ordered my Versus XIII Steak like forever ago! Feels like I've been waitin' 6 years over here! What's a guy gotta do?
Manager: Whoa whoa, sir, we're terribly sorry, it's just taking longer than expected. Hey, would you like to sample a medium XIII-2?
Angry customer: What? No, I didn't order that.
Manager: I know. No one did, actually, I was just hoping you might buy it. Hmmm...I wonder what I can do to make someone want this.
Angry customer: ..."

NewMonday4437d ago

the sales for FF13-2 are a disaster, so the fanbase voted

Idonthatejustcreate4436d ago

Just face it guys, square doesn't have ANY talented people left.

They don't have a clue how to make a hit like chrono trigger or FF7 OR what their fans want since it's been so long since they satisfied their customers.

Ranma14436d ago

I love Squaresoft, but SE is something else

Knight_Cid4438d ago (Edited 4438d ago )

yeah I hate the company thats given me dragon quest joker 2, ff type zero, ff rythm over the last few months..........NOT

I also loathe the company thats brining out draogn quest X,bravely default, kingdomhearts, dq monster 1 remake and more this year

Knight_Cid4438d ago

No they dont. 13 and 13-2 were amazing games. 14 there one failure. But I can list 50 great square games this gen.

It isnt even close

fluffydelusions4437d ago

@above...amazing? No. They were decent games but poor FF games.

Disccordia4437d ago

Id like to see you list those 50 great square games this gen.

Action GO FIGURE4437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

Please list those 50 Square games this gen!

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4437d ago

" No. They were decent games but poor FF games."

This is a retarded argument. Decent is decent it doesn't matter where it's from. They were decent games yes, but that doesn't make them bad because they happen to have Final Fantasy in the name, you'd enjoy it an equal amount if it was called anything else still.

a_bro4437d ago

Knight_Cid

you must have played those games while taking shrooms...

Elemental_4437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

Actually its pretty easy

Kingdom heart BBS
Kingdom hearts 365
kingdom hearts recoded
The world ends with you
dragon quest IV enhanced port
dragon quest V enhanced port
dragon quest VI enhanced port
draogn quest IX
dragon quest rocket slime 2
dragon quest joker 1
dragon quest joker 2
front mission 1 enhanced port
front mission 2068
star ocean 4
blood of bahamut
ff type zero
ff revant wings
ff tactics advance 2
ff crystal chronicles
ff 4 warriors of light
ff crisis core
valkyrie profile covenant
final fantasy III
dissidia 1
dissidia 2
last remnant
ff 13
ff 13-2

Not sure how many that is but I enjoyed all of those.........

Outside_ofthe_Box4437d ago

@elemental

Lol aren't most of those handheld games?

Name games on the 360/PS3 that SE has made that is GREAT. 13 and 13-2 don't count as those games are type rubbish.

Redprodigy4437d ago

@elemental_ and if not handheld, "enhanced" ports of old squaresoft games?

Disccordia4437d ago

Not to mention that front mission, star ocean and infinite undiscovery were only published by square

the only games theyve developed for consoles this gen are ff13, ff13-2 and the last remnant. none of which could be called great!

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Godmars2904438d ago

The same mentality that went into FF14 was there for 13 and 13-2. At least the eyes of many.

If you see it otherwise, if you actually liked 13 and 13-2 that's your opinion. But please don't look at their sales numbers - actual facts as opposed to only your own opinion - and call them successes.

Knight_Cid4437d ago

That doesnt make it right. And please dont say many, when its really only a vocal 1 percent.

Do you want to really look at sales numbers?

ff 13 was the fastest to 13 million and the highest selling since 7. 13-2 was a high sellling spinoff that was one of the best selling games in japans larget retailer/

Action GO FIGURE4437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

@Knight: Where did you get those numbers? I'm keen to know more... ;)

iamtehpwn4437d ago

FFXIII was a critically failure, not a commercial one. The game was pretty lackluster, but it was fasting selling Final Fantasy game in the series, and did sell 6 million units. Conversely, was also one of the lowest rated and generally disliked by most fans.

Godmars2904437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

It also hit the bargain bin quicker than any other title - so I'm not getting where you and Cid are coming from.

I and others have also repeatedly said that it was so bad, that Sqaure have so badly presented their intentions for continuing the series, that we wont buy another title until they show some honest sign of change and improvement.

When you talk about people buying FF titles - we are the people you're talking about!

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TitanUp4437d ago

did you play final fantasy in previous generations of gaming?

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Outside_ofthe_Box4437d ago

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Hojo0003 said: "SquareEnix does good games for non-HD platforms."

^^^ I agree with that ^^^

13 and 13-2 are disappointments...

Elemental_4437d ago (Edited 4437d ago )

1) Stop acting like handheld games are some how not as good. When handhelds are the top systems worldwide this gen. That point is moot. Square every gen puts the bulk of its games on the most popular systems.

Sorry the ps3 and 360 werent. But if I have to humor you I will include 13 and 13-2 since both games were amazing. Nier was great, as was star ocean 4.

Most of those enhanced ports were new games in at least 1 region. Dragon quest V and VI for example. They are essentially brand new games

ff rhythm just came out and I imported it and its AMAZING. KH DDD is very very soon.

They should be announcing even more amazing rpgs soon

and fyi you can hate on 13-2 all you want.

It received more 7-10 scores than kingdom of A. Now that is a bad game

I know its "cool" to hate on square, but mostly real rpg fans just laugh at the trolls who dont play the games.

Oh yeah ff type zero is the best action rpg of the gen. It puts shallow crap like skyrim to absolute shame in terms of characters you really care about.

Dragon quest X is also a day 1 purchase.

@iamtehpwn

So an 84 average is a critical failure huh?

Jeez, the trolls need better arguements

Outside_ofthe_Box4437d ago

You're just a SE/JRPG fanboy.

Nobody is saying that the handheld games aren't good. People just want a full fledged squaresoft-like console experience again.

Every real FF fan knows that FF13 and 13-2 are rubbish at best.

And why do people that dislike what SE is doing makes them haters? Do people that like what SE is doing make them blind SE sheep?

You need to troll harder element.

Ravenor4437d ago

If Skyrim was an Action RPG you would have been getting somewhere.

AsunaYuukiTheFlash4437d ago

Star Ocean was developed by Tri-Ace.

Elemental_4436d ago

@Your acting like its a crime being on the psp which is considered this gen.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/sys...

I hate to break it to you but when square broke there all time profit records this gen, it was because of strong performance of dq 9, ff 13, and other titles in there rpg lineup.

@outside

Great, the surest sign of a non arguement is when someone presents you with evidence and all they can do is cal you a fanbboy

The people who want console experiences again dont understand the market. POINT BLANK. And if they did understand the market, they would be greatful for what we are getting right now.

I am a real ff fan, and ff 13 and 13-2 were amazing games. I know its hard for you to see all the 7-10 reviews on hear, cover your eyes, ears and scream and pretend its not there.

Because people who dislike square for nonsense reasons are haters....thats why

Your the one who has to troll harder.

But of course you can ignore game lists, sales, critical reception, records, and call people who do trolls.

Outside_ofthe_Box4436d ago

...as PROVEN by Call of Duty/Activision unless you're going to defend that to LOL.

Yes you are a fanboy. Everything SE does is golden to you.

***"Because people who dislike square for nonsense reasons are haters....thats why"***

By who's definition of nonsense? Yours? Just because you love SE and FF13 and 13-2 till the death doesn't mean everyone else isn't allowed to express dislike for SE/13/13-2 LOL.

And why should I care about the market? The "market" is why developers insist on copying CoD. I'm not getting a cent from Square so I could careless if SE is making a profit by making games for the market.

Troll harder son.

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Action GO FIGURE4437d ago

@Elemental: That list is funny. Most of those games are on PSP, which is already considered last gen. PSVITA?

And you also listed FF13/13-2... /smh

Sigh... nvm...

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Godmars2904438d ago

This whole thing feels like a catch-22: Sqaure needs to do something right to fix themselves, only they seem incapable of doing anything right. Anything that they do comes off as a horrible imitation of the Western approach to current consoles, and those have been utter crap.

Redprodigy4437d ago

Sad to say, but the best thing Square-Enix has done lately is re-release old Squaresoft games. Their new stuff just isn't as great. Instead of trying to innovate while also catering to its existing fan-base, Square-Enix is completely ignoring the fans that grew up playing their games. I want them to make new original stuff, but they need to innovate in the same way they did back in the day. These days, it seems like their "innovation" is just a soul-less attempt at making a profit.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4437d ago

Here's an idea. Instead of bitching how they don't make games how they used to then buying their games, why not just not buy them? Money means a lot more to companies than your personal opinion.

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Square & Bandai Namco Being Honest About Quality Is A Step In The Right Direction

Saad from eXputer: "After suffering from massive financial hits, Square Enix & Bandai Namco appear to be turning over a new leaf but I'm still unconvinced."

Nerdmaster4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I was talking about games with some Japanese guys here in Japan, and it seems like around here Bandai Namco has a fame of making low-quality games, with the occasional gem.

About Square Enix, I believe they lack the capacity to improve. They should learn with Capcom (although even Capcom still makes some bad mistakes), but I don't think they ever will. They keep chasing whatever is new at the time (blockchain, AI...) to say "we innovate", without considering the public perception and if these things actually improve the games or not. Them releasing too many small games with no advertising also shows a lack of trust in its own products. Even with their biggest games, like turning FF into an action game with XVI and the very divisive plot changes regarding whispers and timelines in VII Remake, shows them trying to attract a new generation of gamers without understanding what made the series so big in the first place.

shinoff21833h ago

I want a true ff7 remake. With thatcsaid I'm way happier with 7 remake then I was with ff16. I'd still prefer turn based but square keep chasing these Lil kids

Snookies1223m ago

Man, it is perfectly fine to prefer turn based. Turn based is amazing. But there's zero reason to call anyone who likes action games "lil kids". Liking one gameplay system over another does not make you more mature in any way.

VersusDMC3h ago

People love the new FF's overall...the problem is the abundance of 7's they release that lose money or make very little like diofield, star ocean divine force, Valkyrie asylum, harvestella, foam stars, etc. Advertising wouldn't have saved those games. Apparently Forespoken had a big Advertising budget but we saw how that went.

shinoff21832h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Star ocean divine force actually sold well from what I've read not ff type numbers but well enough. Was a dope game to.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

Bandai Namco is going to Bandai Namco, I do believe that Square Enix can't change without changing the entire management, they've had these issues for more than a decade and haven't learnt, I have very little faith they can course correct. I'll still buy their better remasters/remakes like Star Ocean 2 though (not FF7R).

CrimsonWing692h ago

I don’t know why NOW they decide on this, but I guess later is better than never.

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I’m Glad Atlus & SE Changed Dates To Avoid Competing With Shadow Of The Erdtree

Saad from eXputer: "I'm glad I don't have to choose between Square Enix, Atlus, and FromSoftware due to bad release windows and Shadow of the Erdtree."

H95d ago

More intelligent than guerilla games

raWfodog5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Atlus is releasing their game one week before Erdtree, SE is releasing theirs one week after.

HZD released four days before Zelda, HFW released one week before Elden Ring.

It seems to me like they are still releasing their games too close to Erdtree.

VincentVanBro4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

What a word vomit, rambling, turd of an article that simply states the obvious. Classic exputer.

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Yuji Naka guilty of insider trading breaks silence to accuse Square Enix producer of lies

Yuji Naka was fined $1.2 million and given a suspended jail sentence for the crime.

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I find his comments around how Balan turned out to be very insightful as to why the game is trash. He basically apologises for its existence

solideagle18d ago

can you please give some of us who don't know anything about this, a summary of what happened?

Chocoburger18d ago

Balan was knowingly rushed out by S-E, it had an extremely short dev cycle and was fairly low budget.
Naka was the game's director until near the end when he was fired or perhaps he quit, I forgot.

carrotcakeag18d ago

@Chocoburger Yeah they did fire and replace him which caused him to unload a bunch of rants about the company. The project only existed because of Naka in the first place, he convinced Square to give him one shot at making a platformer. They gave him an opportunity but pulled the rug out before he was done for reasons not explained.