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Nintendo in Disarray Comment is Absurd

Recently Nintendo has been the target of analysts in their ever going insane comments. Michael Pachter is an analyst I trust, and I have never had an issue with his comments. I believe his comments and predictions are well thought out, but even his Nintendo comments are starting to bug me.

Shok4453d ago (Edited 4453d ago )

Nintendo Wii sales 95+ million units.

Nintendo 3DS becomes the fastest selling handheld of all time, also while outselling the Wii and PS2.

Nintendo Wii U will launch first, giving it a whole year to itself, coming with great 3rd party support and an actual online network, essentially fixing all the problems that the Wii had.

And Nintendo is in disarray.

Colwyn4453d ago (Edited 4453d ago )

wii is abandoning its fanbase and nintendo has announced wii u. there wont be any more big releases for the wii when it comes to software. wii u as been announced a year ago but the general public barely has any info on it. the 3ds had to drop its price 30percent a few months after release. the wii u will have weak hardware with bad controls again. a big square controller isnt ergonomical enough and will give hand cramps like a 3ds or ds. the 3ds is an incomplete handheld because its missing parts and people need to buy a second add-on to have 2 slide pads. the ps vita was released last week with more games than the 3ds ( waitstation) as gathered over a year on the market.

Shok4453d ago

"wii is abandoning its fanbase and nintendo has announced wii u. there wont be any more big releases for the wii when it comes to software"

That's why Xenoblade and The Last Story have both just recently been announced to come out here in the US right? Lol. And Pandora's Tower is coming out in UK. Wii owners are at least getting 3 very epic RPGs, and although it's just 3 games, they're RPGs, so they'll last a very long time.

"the 3ds had to drop its price 30percent a few months after release."

.............and? Lol.

"the wii u will have weak hardware with bad controls again."

We don't know the official specs, but even the rumored specs put the Wii U leaps and bounds above the current gen.

"a big square controller isnt ergonomical enough and will give hand cramps like a 3ds or ds"

Journalists WHO HA"VE ACTUALLY TOUCHED A WII U PAD all say that it's actually very comfortable to hold and is even light-weight.

"the 3ds is an incomplete handheld because its missing parts and people need to buy a second add-on to have 2 slide pads"

I agree that a 2nd pad is needed, but no doubt that'll come in a redesign and the 3DS is doing fine as-is without an extra slide pad. Heck, the DS did fine with just a D-PAD lol.

Try harder troll xD

yabhero4452d ago

I was going to reply to your stupidity with an elaborate answer but Shok did me the favor (Bubble+ for Shok)
I would argue with you about the WiiU specs being weak especially when it look around 6 times current gen and on par with the nextbox but you're someone who expects the PS4 to be packing a double GTX 580 with an intel i7 at like 3.8 GHz and 8GB of RAM...
The 3DS dropped its price and now Nintendo is making profit and the 3DS is approaching 16 million worldwide. Also the ppl who actually played WiiU said the controller is light and comfy. Look on IGN, the dude say he can see himself holding this for a long time. You can keep enjoyiing e exactly same controller. Are you on dualshock 56? or 72? Props to Nintendo for being a somewhat creative. Like Shok I'll give the the second pad one... that was a mistake on their part. How would you know the 3DS cramps your hand? It doesn't do that to mine... In fact I just played MGS3D for 4 hours str8... you wldn't know because you don't have a 3ds... you probably haven't even played one for longer than 10 minutes...

LX-General-Kaos4452d ago

As yabhero stated above. Shock has taken care of another Nintendo hater with style and grace. With Ninja like skills and quick reflexes we have all witnessed another verbal beating full of truth and facts.

These smear articles will do nothing to stop the legendary quest that Nintendo has taken to the top of the gaming landscape.

With just a glimpse at the sales numbers and review scores you can easily see the fine direction Nintendo is headed in. All of these negative articles full of negative comments will do nothing to bring down the house that Mario built.

The Last Story is now available for pre order

Rated E For Everyone

BattleAxe4452d ago

Shok is a kid living in his mom's basement, while Pachter is a financial adviser for people looking to invest in the games industry........Sorry, but I think i'll go with Pachter on this one.

On topic:
I think the 3DS will do really well, but the Wii is pretty much abandoned. While The Last Story, Xenoblade and Pandora's Tower might be good RPGs (I wouldn't know because the only one I've ever heard of is Xenoblade), these are not mass market games like HALO, Gran Turismo or Uncharted, and therefore won't make a very big impact on Wii sales. The Wii was a fad, and like most people know, the casuals that bought the Wii probably played Wii sports a few times and then never touched the system again. These casuals that bought the Wii aren't anxiously waiting to buy a new console.

This brings me to the WiiU. This will unfortunately be the next Sega Dreamcast. Its not going to be able to do anything that the 360 or the PS3 can't already do, especially with the release of the PS VITA, and the possibilities of using that with the PS3 for augmented reality games. Both the PS3 and the 360 are still hot, and with the PS4 and XBOX 720 both releasing within the next 2 years, the WiiU will get drowned out by all the excitement for the next two "real next gen" consoles. Nintendo couldn't have picked a worse release window. I think the WiiU will be lucky to sell the same amount of units as the Game Cube.

phantomexe4452d ago

Hand cramps come on my hand cramps on the vita too. :) i shouldn't of tossed out my porn magazines when i got marred.... what was i thinking.

ChickeyCantor4452d ago

"Shok is a kid living in his mom's basement"

Assuming they have a basement?
Creep much?

theeg4452d ago (Edited 4452d ago )

colwyn,

when i see that pic of yours, i just hit the diagree button, i cannot stop myself.

this isn't an apology or anything really, this confession has meant nothing.

Venoxn4g4452d ago

oh Colwyn, Colwyn, you are like always :)

AdvanceWarsSgt4452d ago

If you're going to troll, try not to make it obvious by agreeing with Pachter on ANYTHING gaming related.

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ThePsychoGamer4453d ago (Edited 4453d ago )

As a publisher they are in dissray, I have never seen any other publisher be so determined in not bring a game over that there fans wanted, not without a decent reason anyways.

The fight for Xenoblade shouldn't have been so big, and then to have Nintendo set the game up for commercial failure is an unacceptable slap in the face to the people in Monolith Studio. They are making the way Sega handled Yakuza 3 (a game that, I might add also require a fan movement to get to the states, but one that never got nearly as big as Operation Rainfall)look good.

As for The Last Story, it douse mark an improvement in Nintendo's publishing polices, but again Nintendo should have done this from the start.

Lets not for get the game Nintendo kept from the west like Fatal Frame 4. Again this was a publisher completely ignoring it's fanbase, wich in this day and age is completely unacceptable.

Honky Kong4452d ago (Edited 4452d ago )

Fatal Frame 2 is coming to Wii soon.

Anon19744452d ago (Edited 4452d ago )

Why don't we look at the facts? Nintendo had to slash it's earnings and had the worst showing it's had in 30 years, revenue is down 40%, revenue in the US has fallen 50% and you've got Nintendo heads publicly apologizing for everything from losses to the 3DS price cut. Company brass aren't out there eating humble pie because the company is a resounding success and everything is running like clockwork.

The mobile game marketplace, which has long been Nintendo's bread and butter, has changed and Nintendo has put out a very traditional console which they've already had to cut the price on while revising the sales forecasts downward by millions.

Add to that the very realistic concerns regarding what we've seen regarding the Wii-U, I think these are all reasons that back up Pacther's comments that Nintendo is in disarray. You can't argue with any of those points - they're just the facts. As a business (and they aren't the only company facing hardship) they're struggling.

And this guy saying the Wii-U would be just fine launching at $399, what planet are you living on?

Blackdeath_6634451d ago

i said this many times before sales dont prove anything my first lesson studying further maths statistics was basicaly the maths teacher that stats is bullshit. if 95 million people bought a game it means that 95 million people bought a game it DOES NOT however mean that they all enjoyed it or that its a good game it maybe down to good advertising(the wii was a very popular christmas present) or even by chance (random event) as other ppl mentioned before nintendo is in disarray not in a financial point of view but in terms of fan base which sooner or later will get bored of the same titles over and over. too early to judge right now and i do think disarray is an over statement but not too far from the truth.

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LX-General-Kaos4453d ago

That is absolutely correct. It makes me happy to see another Nintendo supporter speak the complete truth.

Rated E for Everyone

MySwordIsHeavenly4452d ago

Nobody is strictly a Nintendo supporter. You'd have to be INSANE to JUST support Nintendo. The Wii has the worst line-up of games this generation. Yes, it had some gems, but the massive amount of great games on PS3 and 360 far exceed those of the Wii. You can't deny that.

Nintendo is, in no way, going broke. They're worth more than any company their size.

That being said, I want good games. The PS3 exclusives may not sell as well as the Wii exclusives, but they sure as heck keep me entertained. Sony releases game after game after game and you expect me to just ignore that as a gamer?!?

You, sir, are not a gamer.

Rated M for Mature

Venoxn4g4452d ago

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Best Wii games:

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Good games:

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Decent games:

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and I am not counting Gamecube games that you can play too...

browngamer414452d ago

I strictly support Nintendo and I am anything but insane..you think because you come on here and make an insane blanket statement it makes it true? Whether you like it or not there are MANY solo Nintendo supporters(numbers don't lie..but trolls do)so try to at least come on here with facts in your sh-- talking we have too many baseless Sony trolls on here as it is.

Instigator4452d ago

I'm not going to deny that the PS3 and 360 have more good games than the Wii, but the fact is that the experiences you get on those two consoles are very similar. The appeal of the Wii is that it has unique titles, and enough of them to warrant any "my Wii is collecting dust" argument redundant.

I've had my Wii since 2007 and haven't had any problem finding great games on it. So much so that between it and the DS I still haven't had time to buy the PS3 and PSP I've been planning.

If you, sir, are a gamer, you don't disregard Nintendo. They are not without their faults, but software wise the Wii is well worth it.

LX-General-Kaos4451d ago (Edited 4451d ago )

I see my biggest fan MySwordisHeavenly has followed me to another article.

Its ok I welcome your attention. Even if you are only here to continue your Nintendo smear campaign and stealth rep sony.

If you are going to rep sony at least make it good. Go all out dont be afraid. Im not going to take your bubbles. Learn from the true entertaining sony fans from the old school n4g. You sound like an angry snippy sony fan with a chip on his shoulder.

If you are really that upset man PM me your address and I can have a Nintendo 3DS delivered to you to put a smile on that face. The you too can play the award winning exclusive titles provided to you by Nintendo.

Rated E For Everyone

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Abdou234452d ago

I don't get it, why people keep trying to predict the future and already make up their judgements without any solid information ?!! No one on earth can possibly say for sure what is going to happen in the next 2 years,hell no one can tell what will happen this year when WiiU launches,what will the line-up be or price or amount of sales.

Rated "F" for FANBOYS.

Titanz4453d ago (Edited 4453d ago )

They hate the fact that Nintendo hasn't gone 3rd party yet. What's ironic though, is the fact that Sony knocked Sega off their hardware pedestal.

PirateThom4453d ago (Edited 4453d ago )

I'm pretty much "Sony platforms only" these days.

I grew up with Nintendo being my primary digital entertainment. I still have really good memories of Nintendo when they were one of the most exciting gaming companies and their products were second to none. I still had Sega consoles, but Nintendo were always my favourite consoles.

Problem is, Nintendo don't make products for people in their 20's who still care about gaming. They're still making the same products and experiences that I grew up with... which is fine, just not for me. I'm not saying everything has to be gritty and washed out or else I hate it, but Nintendo never really evolved their games. Mario is still Mario, Zelda is still Zelda. I grew up, Nintendo didn't change, so I had to find a platform that suited me. Nothing will ever be better than the SNES as a console, nothing will ever beat Mario World as a platformer, or Super Metroid as an adventure. I just don't need Nintendo games anymore though.

I tend to find it's Microsoft fans who tended to be old Sega fans anyway.

PopRocks3594452d ago

"Problem is, Nintendo don't make products for people in their 20's who still care about gaming."

That's why Nintendo published Resident Evil 4 and Geist, right?

If you're not into Nintendo games anymore, that's fine. Sometimes people grow out of certain things. But not being developed for adults does not mean a game isn't fun. I know more grown ups who played Mario Galaxy than kids and I know more kids who play Call of Duty than adults. Go figure.

Knight_Cid4452d ago

yeah fire emblem is sure for 10 year olds..........

Id also like to see a 10 year old get through mario galaxy or dk returns, or really 90 percent of the stuff they do

Honky Kong4452d ago

I'm happy monster hunter tri made it to wii.
Zelda skyward sword seemed fun too and I'm 32... Now if I could only finish metroid prime 3 on hard....

PirateThom4452d ago

You're listing games here, but Resident Evil 4 and Geist are Game Cube games, so it's going back a while there to start with, and neither were very good anyway, and Fire Emblem is maybe the exception rather than the rule (and, again, I don't even care for that series anyway, so it's not exactly going to help me like Nintendo more). Having 1 or 2 token games with M ratings just isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a lack of real creativity with new IPs. The Wii's new IPs have been few and far between and most have been "Wii _______" rather than your Doshin the Giants and Pikmins from the Game Cube. Like you're saying, a game doesn't have to be aimed at adults to be fun.

As for Mario and Zelda, those games are still the same as their N64 and Game Cube counterparts, different artstyle, a few new features, but those games are all running off the Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time train of thought. I've been playing Mario and Zelda games since the NES. There's only so much you can take before it does become, well, boring. Not that they aren't well designed games, but they're never stepping outside their comfort zone or enhancing the franchise in any real way.

Drekken4452d ago

Thom, you are right... Nintendo fans are just too strong in this article comment thread.

I don't get it and never will. All I know is I have come to terms that my taste is different than the mainstream. And by judging the products that the mainstream loves... from consoles, to movies, and music. I AM GLAD to not have mainstream tastes.

You are right. Nintendo is for a younger demographic and girls. One guy said: "oh yeah, they had RES4 and geist" and I say LOL!

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AWBrawler4452d ago

no no no. I can vouch that this former SEGA fan is gaming on Nintendo now. The Best Sonic games are on the Nintendo consoles now.

TenkoTAiLS4452d ago

I'm with you on that! After the Dreamcast met it's end i picked up a Gamecube. With the directors cut versions of Dreamcast games and Sega's support for each of it's consoles Nintendo was the way to go for quite a while. Tho now i am a multi-platform kinda guy as there are great games on all consoles. I don't let being a fan or supporter of a single company tarnish my views on great games just because they are made on some other console like a fair few fans do. :)

AWBrawler4452d ago

Agreed, i don't own all, but I do game on all 3 systems, and between me and my staff members for my website, we own all.

AdvanceWarsSgt4452d ago

Dude, I've been saying the same thing for 6 years now. They even use the same tired old arguments from those Sega days.

RockmanII74452d ago

"Michael Pachter is an analyst I trust, and I have never had an issue with his comments."

Not sure if serious.

Motorola4452d ago

You can't pay me to even TYPE that.

tiffac0084452d ago

To all analyst, believe me when I say: "Never underestimate the Big N"

They've proven the majority wrong twice this generation with the Wii and then the 3DS. Never count them out and think they don't know what they're doing because they do.

OcularVision4451d ago

Well they did prove people wrong with the Wii. But they've had several failed products for those who doubt them. Remember the Virtual Boy? LOL
Also, the 3DS sold well-below expectations before the massive price cut. People WILL buy a product at a lower price.

tiffac0084451d ago

And its true the majority will buy a product at a lower price BUT only if its worth buying.

The 3DS at $249 was never really an issue, even when it was found out that it only took $101 to manufacture.

The lack of games and 2nd analog stick was the real issue with the gamers and only the media kept touting the price as an issue, the same can be said with the Vita (regarding the price).

I'm not sure what the original sales expectation of Ninty was on the 3DS but its safe to say, its trending well right now.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno1d 23h ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10122d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref22d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde22d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197222d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville22d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218321d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos21d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai22d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref22d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan22d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00721d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197222d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197222d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref22d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde22d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197222d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197222d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier22d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto22d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218321d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto21d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman22d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts22d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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