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Why Do Gamers Look Down On Sport Sims?

Sports game enthusiast Jamie Presland believes football, golf and even snooker simulators offer “escapism at its best” – but feels they are overlooked and under-valued by many in the gaming community. Here, he asks why.

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spandle4464d ago (Edited 4464d ago )

No idea, Tiger woods golf is one of the most played games in my house for the past 12 years. Can't wait for the next one.

I dont like real golf. Love football but hate footy games.

Go figure.

ATi_Elite4464d ago

Football Manager 2012 is HUGE and has SOLD a TON of units so i have NO CLue what this idiot editor is talking about and neither does he.

AtomicGerbil4464d ago

I think most people will have a FIFA, Madden or a Tiger Woods sat on their shelf at home, which is where the problem lies. Why pay full price every year when you already have one? Although they do drop in price dramatically quite quick.

I can perfectly understand that the super fans are going to want new rosters, but most people aren't going to be swayed by minor updates. I'm talking sports games here, so don't start shouting CoD at me.

shodan744464d ago

You make an excellent point about the annual releasing of new entries in big sporting series.

But the truth is that sports games often get a bad press in general. I know many gamers who simply turn their noses up at the likes of FIFA or Pro Evo, dismissing them as "for the casuals", or saying something along the lines of "why play sport on your Xbox when you can just go out and play it in real-life?"

You should have seen the reaction when I told people I'd spent five days straight playing International Cricket 2010. Bloody great it was too.

AtomicGerbil4464d ago

I'll agree with you there, although I would like to add that sports games in general are more often that not likely to appeal to people interested in those sports.

For example, I'm a fan of golf, motor racing, snooker and to a lesser extent football (soccer to some) so that's likely the type of games I'll consider. Fishing, basketball, ice hockey and horse racing I don't like so I'll be less interested and more likely to ignore.

On top of that I'm only going to buy a game in a particular annual series once every three to four years because I'm likely to see a huge improvement between iterations that'll warrant spending the money.

Think about this happening with millions of fans out there and they're unlikely to see great sales because they're spread too thinly.

To continue your point about the "for the casuals" reputation, I can't help thinking that this stems from past sports games have always been watered down versions of their real life counterparts and it's up to the publishers to market them otherwise.

ginsunuva4464d ago

They're pretty much what call of duty is.

And they sell 17431661344614364 copies for each minor stats update.

GanjaMan4464d ago (Edited 4464d ago )

i dont know about your golf or nfl games but fifa drastically changes every year with major updates to gameplay and new features!

gigreen4464d ago

Sports games are valued, people just aren't stupid enough to buy the same game every year.

If they actually bring some major changes to FIFA I might give it another try, until then I'll just hold on on my copy of FIFA 10.

Horny4464d ago

I have to say FIFA 12 is worth the leap. Graphics are better and new physics engine changes the way the game is played. Might as well wait til 13 now though and get FIFA street.

GanjaMan4464d ago

if people arnt stupid to buy it every year then why did fifa 11 sell over 16mill copies? why has fifa 12 already sold over 10mill copies already and is the fastest selling sports game to date!

+ mate you obviously havnt played fifa 12 it completely changes the gameplay with the new engine, the new tactical defending, new manager mode, new online modes, rpg level up system, UT on the disc and many more features, I highly recommend picking up fifa 12.

oh and new fifa street comes out next month, cant wait!

Horny4464d ago

I love the FIFA games and lately they have been getting better every year and also play differently.
When it comes to basketball and football I always preferred the 2k games. Hockey is back and forth between ea and 2k.
Madden is the one I won't purchase every year because the changes are minimal because they have no competition.
I can't wait for the new FIFA street.

I have to say I enjoy these games way more when playing with buddies and setting up a few tournaments and have a few beers ;)

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EA Hopes to Use Generative AI to Drive Monetization and Make Development 30% More Efficient

Today Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson provided a look into his ideas for the use of generative AI in the company's development processes.

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thorstein53d ago

I wonder what the next buzz word they'll slap in front of AI to make it sound exciting next? "Generative" as if it's creating its own content. Lol.

Cacabunga53d ago

EA is already dying a painful death..

peppeaccardo52d ago

i have a better idea .. why the whole exec team doesn't get replaced by chat bots ?

just_looken53d ago

Though i agree the ai thing is already in other forms of media there have been ai translations/scripts/voice over and even full ai commercials aired on tv. Ubisoft has created a ai game creator story/vo/music except the building of the game

The new unreal engine has auto terrain creation tools

In the world of greed in which it is winning without any major blow back ai is our future.

everyone want's biden dead on the mic or a criminal instead of a woman and now we are getting ai everything because no one will stop watching/playing ai created media.

GamerRN53d ago

Maybe they should just focus on making good games?

Just a thought...

Kiryu199252d ago

Exactly EA are just pure evil. When they are beating Bank of America to be voted the worst company to work for that’s saying a lot

Good thing I don’t buy their games day one and wait for deep deep sale years after launch (the select few games I am actually interested in)

Gaming is making so much money yet the greed of these companies is never ending

CEO’s and people on board making millions yet cutting jobs to those who are actually making the products

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Knightofelemia53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

EA is still a shady shitty company even with or without the help of Skynet. All they will use AI for is new ways to milk loot boxes and come up with the same sports title with a different year on the label. They are one company I truly do hate with a passion. They single handedly ruined some great franchise with their death touch. ME, Dead Space, Alice Returns, Dante's Inferno.

Stuart575653d ago

EA layoffs followed by 'Generative AI to Drive Monetization'

I knew it. Wonder what AI salary looks like? Nothing.

ChasterMies53d ago

I having a feeling that most of the layoffs in the industry are based on the idea that AI will do the same job for less.

DarXyde52d ago

Very likely, yes.

Made worse by the fact that the execs aren't changing their compensations.

My deepest fear at this point is that we are now in the capitalism endgame.

At this point, we really should just burn AI to the ground. Executives cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
How are those people expected to support families if everything gets automated?

Barlos53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

And take away creativity, and people's jobs as we've been seeing. Got it.

No thanks. I want my games created by people, not AI.

CobraKai53d ago

Exactly. If or when games start becoming more AI than people, im done with gaming. AI and companies like EA can suck donkey d***k.

just_looken53d ago

Though i agree remember this is no ps3/360 era were we got up to 3 games in one generation from on developer like gears/halo/bioware/sony/ms

The people today are pro esg/sweet baby for the most part AAA gaming is imploding right now.

We should be stepping back re evaluate everything as a whole this year xmen 97 written/directed by a woman that is nuts and its also being made by a group reshaping bodies to be less sexual like wtf. A dam famous cartoon from the 90's is being rebuilt with millions spent to be worse in everyway.

Gaming/movies/tv shows made today are worse than what we had 7years ago ai won't change this but that ai is also being made by these groups so either way we are screwed.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Eonjay52d ago

Don't be of afraid of women. Sexy characters in games and movies still exist. Got my Stellar Blade on preorder!!! Everything all the time doesn't need to be sexual...that's stupid, childish and dull.

Chocoburger53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

EA doesn't want to lose their title of worst gaming company ever, always trying their best to remain the champs!
What's sad is that they have so much potential to be a decent publisher.

SSX Tricky / SSX 3
Def Jam Vendetta / Fight for New York
NBA Street
NFL Steet
Mirror's Edge
Bad Company
Burnout 3 / 4 / 5

Remember when EA used to be awesome? It's all over with now. Unpolished, if not out-right broken games these days. Endless monetization and gambling in their sports games, and let's not forget wasting hours of your life trying to unlock characters or equipment using "surprise boxes!"

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EA And Sony Layoffs, Entertainment News And More Skewedcast

Gareth, Justin, and JoeyZ look at Layoff news for EA and Sony and reasons behind the downturn in the industry and more.

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EA - Continuing to evolve our business and teams

EA CEO Andrew Wilson writes: "In this time of change, we expect these decisions to impact approximately 5 percent of our workforce. I understand this will create uncertainty and be challenging for many who have worked with such dedication and passion and have made important contributions to our company. While not every team will be impacted, this is the hardest part of these changes, and we have deeply considered every option to try and limit impacts to our teams. Our primary goal is to provide team members with opportunities to find new roles and paths to transition onto other projects. Where that’s not possible, we will support and work with each colleague with the utmost attention, care, and respect. Communicating these impacts has already begun and will be largely completed by early next quarter."

LG_Fox_Brazil60d ago

All the big ones doing the same stuff. Terrible. I just hope that all these people are able to get a new job as soon as possible, God know that it is horrible to be left jobless when you have your kids or your parents depending on your financial help

Jin_Sakai60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

2024 so far.

Feb ’28 Electronic Arts (EA) 670 (5%)
Feb ’24 PlayStation 900 (8%)
Feb ’24 Vice Media Group Several hundred
Feb ’24 Buzzfeed 16%
Feb ’24 NowThis 26 (50%)
Feb ’24 Paramount Global 800 (3%)
Feb ’24 SiriusXM 160 (3%)
Feb ’24 Snapchat 10%
Jan ’24 TechCrunch 8 + subscription product
Jan ’24 U.K.’s Channel 4 200
Jan ’24 Business Insider 8%
Jan ’24 Microsoft Gaming 1,900
Jan ’24 Riot Games 530
Jan ’24 Sports Illustrated Possibly all
Jan ’24 YouTube 100
Jan ’24 Pitchfork (Conde Nast) Undisclosed
Jan ’24 Universal Music Group Hundreds
Jan ’24 Discord 17%
Jan ’24 NBC News 50-100
Jan ’24 Audible 5%
Jan ’24 Google Hundreds
Jan ’24 Amazon Hundreds
Jan ’24 Duolingo 10%
Jan ’24 VideoAmp 20%

DATA AS OF FEB. 28, 2024

outsider162460d ago

Is it possible maybe this whole ai thing is in play?

just_looken60d ago

Another long list that skips over UPS cutting 12,000 jobs those workers as we know work without ac low pay and old box trucks but that company had to cut 12k jobs do too loosing billions of dollars year 2 year.

https://edition.cnn.com/202...

The greed and lack of transparency/oversight is disgusting.

Ups are still making bang but not enough for a golden boat fleet.

Remember we all use ups at some time even stuff in our stores this is going to be a huge issue gong forward i know in my area they removed half the state ups stores northern half least population got some 3rd party running packages now from minivans.

Sonic188160d ago

When I explan this I get called a troll 🤔 like wtf

thorstein60d ago

@just_looken

UPS is a different story altogether.

They are paying the people doing the actual work/ earning the money more and eliminating management.

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CrimsonWing6960d ago (Edited 60d ago )

You do realize around this time this happens all throughout many industries (not just the game industry), right? It has to do with taxes for these major companies, like tax subsidies for downsizing. You want to know a little secret? Around May or so you’ll see a spike in hiring…

It blows my mind that people are oblivious to corporate workings.

Andrew33660d ago

So over 25 huge companies cut jobs every year like this and it only got noticed this time?

CrimsonWing6960d ago (Edited 60d ago )

@Andrew336

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Google it up if you’re uninformed of how corporations work. Only gamers seem to live in a bubble and when they see things like crunch, acquisitions, and lay-offs they act like this is the only industry it happens to and how shocked they are about it.

Welcome to the real world, kid.

thorstein60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

EA CEO Wilson's total compensation was 20 million. Let's take away 19 million (I'm sure he can survive on 1 million.... somehow).

1 million is the salary of an in the chair developer @100,000 for 10 years.

He could earn 1 million a year.

And save the jobs of 15 in the chair devs for A DECADE (plus benefits) with ONE YEAR'S compensation.

RhinoGamer8860d ago

No Executive accountability or firings I see...

just_looken60d ago

Do not worry they will take over 40mill say sorry then get hired by playstation or xbox

blackblades59d ago

I heard Japan does it better, they do layoffs like what's happening with companies in the west. The higher ups also being agreeing to to lower there own salary. These MFs like jim and Phil isnt gonna do that they want that $

Sonic188160d ago

Like I said earlier, this is happening all around the gaming industry.

Petebloodyonion60d ago

The point I feel is problematic about all of this is that focusing on Owned Ip means more sequels, remasters and more of what was selling last year.

TheColbertinator60d ago

EA is certainly among the worst,if not the worst

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