Would Anyone Really Care About Doom 4?

An honest and thoughtful look at a legendary franchise and how it would truly perform in the current climate.

With stiff competition and an ever growing number of gamers with different opinions and tastes than that of which was around during iD's last venture into the Doom series, things aren't looking good for a straight sequel.

Join in the discussion on what iD could do to really make Doom 4 a blockbuster game.

[Trainz]

Cant say I would, same goes for Half life 3.
I'm am so going to get bashed for this lol.

[iamnsuperman]

If they announced Doom 4 or Half life 3 I would be slightly interested but more back of the mind. If they showed me something to get excited about then I would be. For me the name means squat unless I see sometihng exciting and interesting.

[aviator189]

I'm still plenty excited for both doom 4 and h-l 3.

[fluffydelusions]

I'd welcome either though HL3 I'd welcome more!

[RedDead]

I'd welcome doom, I'd love HL3. Opinion are opinion's , not everyone has to love those games

[soundslike]

We don't even know if its good or not.

if its good then there's reason to be excited.

If it isn't good then well there's no reason to get excited.

are these concepts really so intangible, or have we entered a period where hype is more important than gameplay?

[DeadeyeMouse]

Even good games get swept under the rug with mediocre sales. Based on reviews, Rage was a good game, but it didn't sell well. iD needs a blockbuster, and I have a feeling Doom 4 isn't going to be it without some massive changes and innovations to the system.

[Saladfax]

They really need to spend a lot more time and effort on fun gameplay and the script if they want a game to really succeed.

[Ghost250]

dont care for neither. but everyone has their own taste no ones the same.

[IaMs12]

Yes.

[snipes101]

After the extreme mediocrity that was Rage, I can't imagine that I would get excited at all.

[mcmmaster]

Half life Episode 3 , Doom 4, Deus Ex Human Revolution, Bioshock Infinite, Borderlands 2 = Now those are FPS games that make the genre fresh and fun, innovative games that actually work great with FPS.
COD,COD,COD,COD = ruining the FPS genre with the same crap every year, same old and nothing new
Anyone that disagrees clearly thinks COD is the greatest game ever made -_-

[DeadeyeMouse]

It has certainly turned the entire market on its head by producing a business plan that has changed the way the gaming business operates.

The problem is, COD sells so damn well, and that is why it is still allowed to continue doing what it does, it is also why other franchises have followed Activision's business plan.

I'm actually happy to see the rise of hate for COD, and that is only because this business model needs to be stomped into the ground before it becomes -the- thing and all originality becomes a "risky venture" (even though I still play Black Ops on occasion. It is much better than MW3).

[-Mika-]

No i don't think cod is the greatest game ever but your logic is extremely ignorant. COD is not the same crap every year. It adds alot of content like a new story, weapons, perks, balance changes, game modes and alot of maps.

Alot of games out here rarely add any game changing features into it sequel. So stop targeting cod because assassin creed, uncharted, infamous, skyrim, naruto generations. I could go on forever about games that don't really feel different than it predecessors. So again, think before you bash cod because it makes you look ignorant.

[Reborn]

The reason why COD gets a lot of hatred is due to maybe not the game itself, but its influence. Look at whats coming out. They all are aiming to get the 'COD' audience. So many previous games, which then made sequels, lost their style due to trying to 'take CODs audience'.

I gather it's a business, but if it sold you millions, and made a healthy profit previously, why would you risk it all just to 'attain the COD community'?

Surely, if it's good, it will eventually get it's own community?

[Jack_n_Hoff]

you name 5 sequels and then proceed to call them fresh. hahahaha. then you go on to state an ignorant one sided argument, good job fitting so much stupid into one post.

[aPerson]

The difference is the games he listed as being fresh have only had one or two sequels, some released quite a few years apart.

Can you say the same for Cod? (HINT: the answer is no)

[Disccordia]

One of them being Doom. I have a lot of respect for what Carmack has done for the industry but times have changed and I honestly don't think a generic shooter with no depth, story or good multiplayer is going to cut it anymore.

[thedude44]

Yes I care;-)

[CrzyFooL]

me toooooo

[-Mika-]

No i don't. Id sucked alot this generation. There last good game was doom 3. All the games they made this gen was horrible. I was so disappointed in Rage.

[Godmars290]

Funny thing to say given that they've only made the one game.

Given that they'd have to do better than what they did with Rage, which was present a retro title. A Doom 4 would have to be better than Dead Space.

[Vynzent]

No, Square Enix sucked this generation :P

Rage was okay. Anyway, as the guy said, they've only made 1 game this gen, so it's stupid to say they've sucked this gen.

[gillri]

I dont think id have never been a developer with a sense of good game design, they are a tech company first and foremost

Doom 3 was a decent game, as was Rage

And when looking back on Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein...I dont think they were that good either. They pushed the tech and created a new genre at that time which is why they were considered 'great', but in the past 10 years when the tech has moved more slowly their talent in game design has been exposed IMO

They are no Nintendo or Valve put it that way

[Pintheshadows]

Quake 2 was a masterpiece at the time. I personally think it's the best game id have made.

I definately be interested in a Doom 4 though.

[GTRrocker]

Doom is one of those games that I have lost interest in over the years. There are so many first person shooters that are out there that they would really have to do something new and ground breaking.

[DeadeyeMouse]

exactly my point.

[honkyjesus]

Like the next Halo or COD?

[GTRrocker]

I'm not going to buy those games.

[Paul85]

Doom 4 would be great half life 3 as well

[honkyjesus]

RIGHT HERE!!!!!!!!!!

[Rageanitus]

ID games have always been SIMPLE and FUN....

Too bad Rage got bad rap because I really enjoyed it... finished it on both the ps3 and PC.

thought the ending somewhat ended abruptly though.

Having said that can't wait for doom 4.... knowing ID they make their games with 12+ hours of gameplay

[Dan50]

If they make it more like the original Doom games it would be fun :D

[Inception]

Yes, i care. Any problem with that?
But i don't know if my nvidia 220 GTX can play it >.<
hmmm maybe it's time for me to upgrade it...

[BattleTorn]

People care sooo little about it, that you figured you'd write about it.

[softgrip]

I think after Quake 3, iD has gone downhill.

QW and Q2 were fantastic! Q3 was good, and immensely improved with CPMA.

Doom 3, Quake 4, Rage... have really made me doubt that the developer still has the magic. I played more Commander Keen than those aforementioned titles.

[ZippyZapper]

id didn't make Quake 4

[wallis]

I liked doom 3, pretty well crafted exprience that brought atmosphere to the action. It was never meant to be balls out scary but it was meant to make you feel like the mars base was a real place and I think it was quite well realized.

And saying they've gone downhill since quake 3 isn't really fair - the industry has changed massively in the space between quake 3 and now, it's only fair they'd struggle to remain relevant and there's always a chance they can still step up. Look at Epic, they've been making games for decades and they messed up with ut3 but came back strong on gears of war. Epic messed up one game, id messed up 2 (d3 and rage apparently), I think there's still a good chance they could come back.

[Droid Control]

I'm interested in DOOM 4, wouldn't say I'm excited for it. I'm more of a Quake man, myself. i KNOW Quake 4 isn't considered a masterpiece by any means, but I really enjoyed playing it, and for a 360 launch game - the graphcis kicked ass!

[Cyb3r]

Im not as excited for Doom4 after playing Rage

[Lord_Sloth]

I suspect Doom fans might.

[Venjense]

Not really.

[rizzo-rizzo]

Last time I checked the technology to make Doom 4 possible still doesn't exist.

Also, John Carmack can't do it on his own, There won't be a true doom sequel without John Romero present in his prime.

[Omega Zues]

I've been following the next doom for some time now. iD has been hinting things for years, in fact apparently its been in heavy development for some time. The reason for such secrecy was to continue promoting/focus on Rage. Well Rage went and gone.

So...wheres Doom at? Not a single screen shot, nor any tid bit of news. Will we have to wait for the next E3? or even longer for the next Quake fest? Hell people have been waiting for years and personally, to me. iD has done a terrible job to its fans of the Doom series.

Just my 2 cents.

[kasser]

Every gamer from the 90s is excited. Doom is different from RAGE and expectations for Doom are higher in terms of graphics and gameplay. That's obviously why Doom was not shown to the public yet.

And you gotta give RAGE a credit on its engine. It is a starting point for next-gen graphics. Where as COD is still based on heavily modified Quake 3 engine which at some points and it may stop competing when newer technologies come (PS4, XBOX 3, PC)

[Young_ART]

what sucks is if this game ever releases, it'll get compared to COD, like every FPS.....smh.

[SignifiedSix]

If its as good as Doom 3, hell yeah! I remember the first time I played through that game. Kinda scared the S*** out of me!
Hopefully it happens.

[Steadyhndz]

Oh you know it scared the S*** out of you...not kinda :p

[SignifiedSix]

Lmao, yeah xD
Game even makes me jump to this day, but its not as scary as when i first played through it :P

[Vladplaya]

id Failed me with DOOM3 big time, and long time ago I remember Karmak gave interview where he was talking about making DOOM4 more movie like experience. I don't know if that's still their plan, but if it is, then I am pretty sure its gonna be one boring ass game, most likely nothing like The Legendary DOOM1,2.

A lot of recent id titles are actually kinda crap, Doom3, Quake 4, Rage.. all just mediocre games. Perhaps if for once id would care to put enough effort into making a great game, rather than show case for their engines, it would actually turn out to be a good game.

Like people said, there simply nothing to be excited about till you actually learn some info about the game.

PS. Only retards buy games based because of the title...

[parasit3]

Well, if it goes the cooperative/multiplayer route like RE6, then yes I am interested.

[MasterD919]

I hope its not a game that could have had more potential...like Rage.

[Steadyhndz]

I never played Rage, but I've only heard bad things about it, other than the graphics.

ID Software won't mess up Doom 4 though. Doom is their baby, and they'll take the extra time to polish it up...a lot. I have been looking forward to this game since John Carmack discussed it slightly 2 or 3 years ago. Sadly though their promise for announcing it by Quakecon 2011 really upset me...they're just waiting for the right moment I guess.

As for the HL3 discussion in the comments, I'll just through in my 2 bits...I'm not looking forward to it at all. HL2 was good and all, but Valve is just taking way too long for HL3, and it's a game that is mostly bought for the CS Mod anyway.