Top 5 potential stinkers that need your help in February

February is looking busy for console games, but there are a few which might fall along the wayside which you should be supporting.

[bunt-custardly]

Yeah, it's going to be a tough time for new releases. I've still yet to scratch the surface in Skyrim or Saints Row 3 yet, so sadly these titles won't see the light of my gaming day for some time yet.

Not great for the publishers, although great for me, prices drop all too fast on new releases.

[CarlitoBrigante]

"With the original and fondly remembered Twisted Metal on the Playstation selling over 2 million,"

Stopped reading on the first sentence, this one sentence shows us whats wrong with gaming industry today. So called gamers only care if certain games sell gazillion number of copies. Where's the time when we looked at quality instead judging a game by its sales?

You guys did this with Resistance 3, imo the best shooter of 2011.

[DeadIIIRed]

The author was using the figure to highlight the fact that the popularity of Twisted Metal has been dwindling, not as a claim of quality.

[Blaine]

@Carlito

Not to mention this is an XBOX SITE, just putting TM in there to troll for hits. GTFO msxbox-world.

[byrnezy]

Can't agree enough on Resistance 3, such a brilliant game. Sad to see Insomniac leave sony and go multi

[SwampCroc]

I agree with you...

also Twisted Metal back on Playstation sold well. that was then... and I'm positive there are alot more PS owners now.

so I really think Twisted Metal is going to fine.

it's the king of car combat.

[MaxXAttaxX]

Lack of own 360 games to talk about? Maybe.
Trolling PS3 games because of it? Likely.

GTFO 'msxbox-world.com'

[joab777]

While I may agree with you, games cost a ton of money to make today, especially if they r to meet r standards. Its one reason so many live arcade, Indie games, and ios games r being made. I fear that there's only gonna b room for maybe 20-30 major ips at any given time; the rest will fail. It is simply astonishing that there are such good games out today, and so many that it simply isn't possible for all to succeed. New ips must find a niche audience or b superb titles to survive. I hope twisted metal does well. The syndicate may do well also because it is a shooter right now. I think the new IP that may fare the best this month is kingdoms of amalur. It comes at a time when rpgs are at a high, sandwhjched between skyrim and ME3.

[joab777]

And something I don't understand is why games don't take advantage of down time. Last summer I went back and played lost Odyssey while waiting for the fall to release 10 games. I did it last January too. It may have been the way of old, but new ips or sequels of older games or obscure games must pick the right fights to stand a chance. I guess February isn't bad, i guess we will c which one comes out on top. Though i fear it may b the month to finish up fall releases.

[sikbeta]

The more a games sell, the more money a dev can earn and chances to get sequels are higher than with a game that sell like crap, so yeah, as a gamer, you should not care about sales, but when you do know what I stated about sales, you kind of want a game to succeed, right? that's why we go with sales ans s***, I want TM to succeed, but I don't think it'll sell much, sadly

[trouble_bubble]

@DeadIIIRed
Bad example though by Msxbox. Not enough of a difference between the 1st game doing 2 million and every other sequel doing over a million to prove a decline. If anything, it proves the series had a -stable- 1 million repeat customers that came back every time once the novelty wore off. That's actually a positive.

Now, were Msxboxworld to apply that same logic to Halo or Final Fantasy where recent incarnations have fallen WELL short of the series' peak numbers by like 6 million a pop, heads would be blown. But those games aren't PS exclusives so the standards are apparently different.

[FACTUAL evidence]

Twisted metal is going to struggle for 1 million sells...I agree it's going to sell like crap. I can't wait til someone trades the game in so I can buy it. It would of been day one if it had more characters. I loved the single character bio's and endings....that's what made TM IMO. Not going to be surprised if this game does sell like crap, or maybe even receive 7 and 8 reviews.

Not saying 7 or 8's are bad, but it's most likely going to be the forgettable TM title on ps3.

[Godchild1020]

How can it be forgettable? It's the first TM to grace the PS3, it will either be remembered for being the first TM to grace the PS3 and fail or be the first TM to grace the PS3 and do well.

I laugh at people like you that come into shops and ask if they have a used game of a recently released game, because you can't afford to spend the extra 5 dollars. If you are going to do that, why not just rent your games altogether and then buy the games you do like. That way that same 55 can get you 4 games at a time and not just one for the 1-7 day period.

EDIT: This is not just for TM, but for a lot of games that have the potential to do great and not like games that are consider being like Mindjack or other games.

The only thing to hold TM and other games from selling well that day is the fact that day is Valentine's day and any man that has a woman, will not be able to pick that game up unless he is in a mall that has a Gamestop, Walmart, Target, Best buy or any other store that sells games close by.

[TheLastGuardian]

"I can't wait til someone trades the game in so I can buy it. It would of been day one if it had more characters."

That's such a stupid reason not to buy this game new. What is so bad about having only 3 playable characters? It's all about the vehichles really. Are you really complaining that there is only 3 story modes in Twisted Metal? It's still going to be the best single player of any TM game. You think you know better than Eat Sleep Play what's best for Twisted Metal? You don't deserve to play Twisted Metal.

[TBM]

Twisted Metal and FF 13-2 will do just fine. i know i plan on purchasing both games when they release.

[pedo_across-the-road]

I never thought I would see the day where an xbox magazine tries to help a playstation exclusive.

[LOGICWINS]

Twisted Metal will need all the help it can get on Feb 14th.

-The car combat genre is a niche genre
-No television commercials as of yet
-ME3 demo coming out the same day
-UFC Undisputed 3 coming out the same day
-People still busy with Skyrim
-People buying games from last year at a discounted price(AC: Revelations, Arkham City etc.)

The game looks great if your a TM fan...but anyone who expects it to be a Day 1 sales monster is kidding themselves.

[ShadesMoolah]

Exactly. Nailed it.

[Silly gameAr]

I don't think anyone expects TM to be a sales monster, including the creators. Sorry, I take that back. MSxbox World might, but then again, I really don't take this site very seriously. I think it's one of the biggest hit mongering sites on N4G.

By the way, good on you to approve your own article shadowmask. Nailed it.

[Baka-akaB]

Dont forget how europe as a whole usually doesnt care about twisted metal .

Anyway in my case it's dead . I await way more important games betweeen jan 31 to march , alongside the release of the vita

[SilentNegotiator]

MS-Xbox-World is just happy to claim that Twisted Metal is d00med!, the same way "LOGIC" is happy to call car combat "niche" (because we've seen so many big time, AAA car combat games lately by which to judge that claim /s).

"-ME3 demo coming out the same day
-UFC Undisputed 3 coming out the same day
-People still busy with Skyrim"

.....a demo, a wrestling game, and a game that's months old will stop people from buying Twisted Metal? LOL, get outta here, troll.

[MariaHelFutura]

It won't sell boatloads day 1, but it won't be because of the ME3 demo. D!psh!t.

[n4gisatroll]

Really....do people still play those ufc games? And you think enough people will buy ufc over twisted metal? Because I don't.

[LOGICWINS]

"It won't sell boatloads day 1, but it won't be because of the ME3 demo. D!psh!t."

".....a demo, a wrestling game, and a game that's months old will stop people from buying Twisted Metal? LOL, get outta here, troll."

Uh oh, I made some people angry.

"And you think enough people will buy ufc over twisted metal?"

Umm..yeah

[honkyjesus]

Include these weird Jaffe fanboys that have been waiting for him to work on something since 2005 that is worth noting.

I remember a forum with Ken Levine and Todd Howard on Gametrailers, and Jaffe appears drunk and babbles while the other guys pretend to take him seriously. At one point he said a story in a game is not important... prolly cause he is making a Twisted Metal reboot instead of a game.

[Abash]

That was the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, and it's poor "logic" from someone who has an ironic screen name like yourself.

You might as well have put " - Taco Bell's beefy crunch burrito is 99 cents" because you were desperately trying to think of anything you could.

[LOGICWINS]

Your absolutely right. I'm "desperate" to make a videogame look bad because it benefits me. Bravo.

[SilentNegotiator]

@Honky

Jaffe was creative director for Mickey Mania, the game that influenced the 2D sidescroller sections of Epic Mickey. He was a designer for the Twisted Metal series (inspiration for future games like Vigilante 8, Carmageddon, etc). Not to mention....he directed the spectacular and influential God of War.

Yeah, Calling all cars was a flop, but that doesn't change the fact that Jaffe is an absolute legend; he's influenced more games and taken part in more grade A projects than a chicken.

But I'm sure you're just bitter about something he said in a blog/twitter post.

[thedude44]

i think twisted metal is going to do well, the game is one of the best out there and its playstations oldest franchise so its well known.

[ginsunuva]

Ufc? Me3 demo? Lol

[Bioshocking]

I doubt anyone with a Ps3 is still playing Skyrim with that god forsaken lag...

ME3 demo comes out only for 360 that day

Hell sales don't make a great game, look at COD and now Skyrim on PS3.

And Eat Sleep play does not care how many copies they sell. They are just proud that this is the best twisted metal they have ever made... calling it a niche genre makes you look like an idiot, because there is so much depth for this games multiplayer it is ridiculous

I pre ordered and payed this off... because I know it is a great game

[morganfell]

Twisted Metal is one of those games that doesn't sell a lot day one...or even day two. But it keeps selling steadily over time.

Don't forget to click the link under Read full story>> that says msxbox-world.com. It doesn't take you to their site. Instead it lets you vote on the site.

Tell N4G what you think of these types of stories and that site in general. Keep voting and soon you won't have to deal with these sorts of attempts at journalism.

N4G placed this voting mechanism here for a reason. We should use it to its fullest potential.

[Jamzluminati]

LOL Mass effect
LOL Demo
Lol Demo
Skyrim? People still playing that?

[P_Bomb]

@Logic
"The car combat genre is a niche genre"

Part of the appeal. Something *new*. I don't just like the games Kevin Butler or Larry Hyb tell me to. Like Yakuza, which I'll be getting hand-in-hand with ME3 come March. My February however remains wide open.

As to the games you listed as potential February diversions, I've never cared for the Elder Scrolls, coupled with no real interest in anything dungeons'n'dragons themed. As such, buggy Skyrim is still a pass for me.

As is AC Revelations. Burnt out on yearly AssCreeds and Revelations is the poorest rated to date. Coulda had it new for $24.99 but passed.

Beat Arkham City in October.

A demo means nothing when I'm buying the full game regardless. I don't play demos for months at a time at the expense of games. Mass Effect 3 is March, which still leaves February open.

UFC Undisputed isn't on my radar or anyone on my friends' list. Haven't seen an MMA or WWE/TNA game steal anyone's thunder in forever.

So again, my February is wide open. TM has the best shot of winding up in my machine though just based on the fact there's literally nothing in my collection like it.

[kaveti6616]

" the same way "LOGIC" is happy to call car combat "niche" (because we've seen so many big time, AAA car combat games lately by which to judge that claim /s)."

Well, yeah. That's what makes the genre niche, dude. Are you seriously being sarcastic about that? When something is rare, it's niche.

[Kurt Russell]

He didn't say your precious game is bad, he said it is niche... judgeing by the sheer lack of car combat games I would say that is a fair statement.

All these people calling out the magazine for trolling the PS3 are being foolish... at no point has it said that these games are going to be bad - it just makes the point that these games are unlikely to sell well, which as unfortunate as it may be is likely to be the case.

People are very quick to call people out for trolling or as "dipshits" when they're clearly the blind and misguided.

When you really think of the month, what's currently about and what will be selling on the cheap around that time... is it really going to sell loads?... wait wait, stop, think... is it really? :/

Nobody is saying these games are bad, just being realistic.

[TBM]

Im playing skyrim now but im not going to let one game control my gaming. so when both TM and FF release they will be had and played to the fullest.

[trouble_bubble]

People over-analyse release dates. Who cares what 6 people are still playing from last Nov? Time marches on.

There will always be sales to compete with. Games need to be released sooner or later though. There will ALWAYS be something for someone to "buh buh buh" about. Someone mentioned a demo. Yes a demo, that's not even on the PS3 LMAO! See?

Buy it in Mar if Febs no good, or Apr then. Point is the game will be out. Lifetime sales > day one, week one. This ain't the movies where you need to see a flick before the theater replaces it with another after a few weeks. Be sensible here.

[sikbeta]

Disagree all you want, but some of Logic points are right

Car combat games are not hot anymore, this is a genre mostly of shooters, that's what people play the most, car combat genre is not as big as it was in the PS1 days and it's not going to change in the near future

Sony pushing 1 ad a week before launch is not enough and it'll never be enough, there's nothing about this game, not even internet hype

UFC coming the same day, same mistake as usual coming from SCE, 2010 released GOWIII same week as FFXIII, 2011 released U3 in November with beasts like COD + Skyrim and week after BF3, they're screwing themselves

About people busy with Skyrim, well you can also say that people still busy with COD, so kind of there is no scape, but I get the point

TM will not be a huge seller, everyone knows that, hope it does good enough though...

[MariaHelFutura]

Not everyone is a psycho. Good games are good game regardless of the platform. The industry needs more of this, IMO.

[Blaine]

@pedo

They're not trying to help TM. They're trying to help THEMSELVES by putting TM in there to get hits.

[hellvaguy]

msxbox-world is very well known to troll xbox fans. they are either a.) into reverse psychology or b.) stealth trolls. who knows.

[Prcko]

twisted metal only

[LoaMcLoa]

They really think Final Fantasy XIII-2 is gonna get low sales? ...

Gee, support The Last Story instead!

[Kurisu]

Well FFXIII-2 is on its 5th week out in Japan, and its still hasn't sold through its initial shipment numbers (850,000 I think). Usually it would be over the million mark by at least week 2. Judging by the Japanese launch, FFXIII-2 might struggle to sell as much as Square Enix had hoped. Personally I cant wait to pick up my copy!

[Baka-akaB]

Still there is a difference between a huge franchise selling less as expected and games being full on flops . FFXIII-2's potential flop would be riches for any of the more obscure releases of february

[Venjense]

I played the FF XIII-2 demo yesterday then played Skyrim - FF did not evolve enough to compete with other RPGs this gen.

Skyrim makes FFs gameplay, environments, and generally everything except graphics look a gen behind.

[Baka-akaB]

Weird claim imo .They never had any common ground to begin with , and if you were a fan of one type and not the other , things didnt suddenly change

It's the Fifth official Elder scrolls game already , with even more refinement and/or simplified ... not as if it's some new concept that stole any thunder , let alone leaving some other concepts behind .

[PR_FROM_OHIO]

Looks at website?? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! Twisted Metal will b sick can't wait til Feb,14!!

[NBT91]

I dunno. It looks like a lot of fun but if what I reading the article is true, I cant see myself buying it -
Not that I don't like multiplayer but I don't want to be practically forced to play it online ( screaming kids, racists, music played purposely down mics etc)
"David Jaffe has advised gamers to rent before buying as the focus is strictly multiplayer. If we recall correctly, the originals had sufficient AI to cater to lone players, so this focus on online play might be restrictive"

[LettingGo]

Don't worry. Single player is perfect! Also, playing split screen with friends is fantastic, as well. It's a buy.

[Biggest]

"If we recall correctly, the originals had sufficient AI to cater to lone players,"

So did every other game of the time. There was no online. Making a game with multiplayer as the focus back then would have made zero sense.

[Blaine]

Actually, Jaffe said in the same article that the single player longer and deeper than any TMs before. What he really said was that, despite that, in terms of single player, TM won't compete with the likes of Skyrim for length, so if that's your main focus then rent it.

But this shit site twisted his words to justify a reason to put a stellar PS3 game on their POS list to get hits.

[snipes101]

One thing a lot of people on here waving the banner for TM are failing to realize that these people were already fans. Times have changed since 1996 and vehicular combat games aren't the big seller that they used to be. Like it or not that is just the way it is so yes, it makes sense that TM would be in this article.

[antz1104]

Actually a lot of gamers still remember TM Black, from 2000, and remember that it was well received as the best title in the series. If its anything like that than it could sell really well. Especially if people are looking for something beyond the current fps hype.

[snipes101]

The problem is though that gamers are not a demographic in and of themselves like they used to be. Video game sales now account for millions more people than the ones that play games religiously.

What I'm trying to say is, though gamers might remember TM, a lot of the casual crowd won't and they make up a majority right now unfortunately.

[LackTrue4K]

lol, the website is upset cuz it wont have a Valentine that day!!! hahaha....</3

[EditorAtGNG]

Every time I see a Final Fantasy XIII screenshot I get the urge to vomit... seriously, cut with that crap already.

[Trainz]

Haha me too my friend.
If only life was that beautiful.

[Vynzent]

AGREED

[Yui_Suzumiya]

binary domain and syndicate for me

[Paul85]

Twisted metal is a day one for me!!!

[OMEGAZONE]

Twisted Metal will be amazing, Jaffe has listened to what people want, a fully playable solo and co-op campaign, offline split screen, custom soundtrack, huge competitive multiplayer, multiple endings, replayability.

Day 1 purchase for me and millions of PS3 owners.

[LettingGo]

Exactly. We need to support this kind of developer...especially if they can pump out games as good as Twisted Metal. :)

[Darkwatcher]

Why so many dislikes?

[honkyjesus]

Because, except for Jaffe fanboys, most hate Jaffe because he is gaming's douchebag.

[Blaine]

^Uh, what? Cliffy B is gaming's douche bag.

Jaffe is awesome.

[ZippyZapper]

Jaffe and Cliff both are equel in douchbagary

[honkyjesus]

Most polls I see about Twisted Metal indicate next to nobody cares about it. There has been talk of it not selling a million copies.

By the way, what is a "fully playable solo campaign"? Is that the type of single player game that can be played?

[antz1104]

Lol, I'd love to see those stats.

It means that while the game is geared toward multiplayer it also boasts the largest single player campaign in any series title to date.

[Hicken]

You know, it means that unlike CoD that's made nearly exclusively for the multiplayer, the singleplayer will actually have some substance to it.

And yes, where are these polls? And who are the targets of these polls? People are quick to say "the numbers don't lie," but the numbers don't say anything. Your polls may well have been from a sample of individuals who had little or no intention to buy it, anyway. And, of course, a poll of such people wouldn't indicate anything, except that "people with no interest in buying Twisted Metal have no interest in buying Twisted Metal."

Edit: Yes, silly you, as you still didn't respond to the primary issue: these polls of yours. Show em, present em, link em. Do something. Don't dance around the subject.

[honkyjesus]

Silly me, I thought "fully playable singleplayer" meant "fully playable singleplayer".

Not a fan of COD, haven't played the last one, but if you are going to knock a singleplayer knock Battlefield.

[hellvaguy]

"Jaffe has listened to what people want"

Which people told him they wanted the online pass? Bad people for telling him this.

[Redempteur]

Online passes are NOT the devellopper decision .. This decision is made by the publisher of the game.

[Aloren]

"Day 1 purchase for me and millions of PS3 owners."

Meaning at least 2 million day 1 ? :-D

You've got to learn to be reasonable... I think 2 million lifetime would be great already. ;)

[LettingGo]

Twisted Metal is day one, obviously. I don't want the rest. Lol.

For anyone who is wondering, Twisted Metal will have many features for even the offline player.

[Sanetoshi]

Speaking as someone who wasn't a fan of Final Fantasy XIII, XIII-2 is looking pretty good and the people I know who've played it seem to be enjoying it. Definitely gonna check it out on release.

[caseh]

The demo completely put me off it, straight into a sh*t boss type battle and straight in with the paradigm shifting.

Massive *yawn* followed by an elongated press of the power button.

I guess i'll have to take a look when its released as curiosity will get the better of me but the demo didn't do it any favours as far as i'm concerned.

[Venjense]

Never even head of Neverdead so yeah, Konami may not be doing enough to promote it.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I can see Never Dead and Azura's Wrath having a tough time. I am pretty sure FF13-2 will do decent if not good numbers. Like wise I think Twisted Metal will also pull in good numbers if nothing else due to the cult fan following the game has. Syndicate is a bit of a wild card. So many were excited to hear the Syndicate name but let down that it was a shooter now... the demo release I feel is going to make or break that game.

[Godchild1020]

Never Dead and Twisted Metal for me. Twisted Metal is the first PS3 Exclusive to come out in 2012, so I don't see why it won't sell and do well.

[honkyjesus]

I'd rather not support David Jaffe flaming the media when they don't pay attention to his trivial reboot of a game which didn't need a reboot.

[GraveLord]

MS-Xbox world website bashing Sony exclusives? Why!? I am shocked!

Anyway pre-orders are looking good for the game. Starhawk though is the one that needs your help.

[ZippyZapper]

Yeah because there are no Sony sites that do the same thing on N4G... right?

[CKsquid]

Stop disliking because someones saying TM wont sell well.
Because it wont!
yeah you like it and your gonna buy it, great.
but unless ur a die hard fan of the original this game hasnt really being getting a lot of attention for the general public.

[caseh]

TM looks like a complete turkey to me. Saying that I was never a fan of the original so no suprises when I say I won't be buying it. :)

[Jason143]

twisted metal is only one worth the money imo

[DigitalRaptor]

Twisted Metal will sell well enough numbers for Sony to be satisfied with and that's what matters to them. I'm guessing 2 million, even though it deserves a lot, lot more. They wouldn't have continued the series as long if that was the case. Jaffe knows the score. It seems Sony are going all out on the marketing though, according to him.

As a gamer, I'd like to see as many people playing this game as possible, because I have a feeling that it will be one of the most fun multiplayer experiences of this gen, and of all time. Needs more appreciation.

Starhawk is another ridiculously fun game that will go under the radar as many Sony exclusives do.

[SovereignSnaKe]

-Neverdead definitely has my attention, for the sake of something Original, very shadows of the damned B horror/comedy. Sadly it will probably get ignored unless Konami ramps up the advertising in the next 2 weeks. Binary Domain is also another very anticipated title of mine that i think many will overlook. - Syndicate also has my curiosity.

[GTRrocker]

Twisted Metal is doing really well with pre-orders. Twisted Metal will dominate because it is a well known franchise and it adds something different to the pool of games coming out. Something besides a FPS is good. I have been waiting for a good car combat game for a while.

[capjacksparrow]

In terms of Twisted Metal, I'll be picking up two copies day one! One for my girlfriend and I. Mass Effect 3 is going to have to wait a bit. I've had my fair share of RPGs for a little bit (over 190 hours in Skyrim), and I haven't played a car combat game in years! TM is my number one game for the first half of the year, I can't wait to check it out.

[acemonkey]

TWISTED METAL WOOT!!!!

[BitbyDeath]

I don't know how well Twisted Metal will go but hopefully well enough to keep making more.

I got in late with TM:Black being the first.
Best way to describe it is Carmageddon meets the Devils Rejects.
Oh and Paint it black being on the soundtrack was brilliant, love that song.

[deno]

It's cool, I'll just get binary domain and never dead.

[XboxInnovation]

PS3 gamers just ain't buying the exclusives. Resistance 3 has the best shooter campaign and Socom 4 has the best multiplayer of this entire year yet both only sold like 700,000. I guess gamers really fell into the BF3 vs MW3 nonsense. Wise up, guys, PS3 gamers are smarter than that!

[P_Bomb]

Who said Resistance 3 only did 700,000? Source? These guys estimate it's just about to pass a million http://gamrreview.vgchartz.... . More than Rage, Goldeneye, Deus Ex, Dark Souls did on PS3 in the same window.

[smashcrashbash]

What do people have against TM? I have been hearing nothing but negativity since it was announced. Did TM kill you parents or you girlfriend or you child or something?

[MastaMold]

@smashcrashbash, no sh!t man look at all the haters Twisted Metal is going to be epic

[asmith2306]

It just looks ok but thats all. Problem with online gaming is that you have to pour a bit of time into it in order to have a good session. So am I going to spend my time playing the game I love and keep ranking up or the game thats ok?

[MasterD919]

Summer time release would have been better...Tends to be a dry season around then.

A lot happening these first few months...a game like this could get swept under the rug real easy. It may have been a classic but with games today we know that doesn't mean success.

[P_Bomb]

Starhawk's May.

Pulse from the PSN store estimates Dust514 to be released by the summer as well. My February however is wide open.

[MasterD919]

Borderlands 2 as well...definitely some competition then too but I'm feeling like this game is severely under-marketed for a Feb. release.

[Der_Kommandant]

Twisted Metal does not belong belong to that list.

[illidari]

Suggesting a Final Fantasy and Twisted Metal game to not sell. Byuh. Really?

[SaffronCurse]

PS3 IS TEH DOOMZZZZZZZ

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Why is msxboxworld always talking about PS3-only games?

[StitchJones]

I have no intention of buying any of these games. I did not like Twisted Metal Black when it came out way back when and I have no desire to play the new one since it seems like it's a MP only game with a poorly attached SP. Final Fantasy has no chance in hell of getting my money after that horrible XIII release, nice try taking the same universe and making a proper RPG out of it. You should have done that the first go round. The other games would have fared better if they were releasing at a lower retail price.

[DrDeath]

First off to me Uncharted 3 was the best game of 2011 regardless of Skyrim aka dungeons and dragons ill stay home all day and play with orcs. batman was very good but after the story was done what was there? challenge maps? ill pass they get to repetitive. i have a 51" 3d tv and uncharted 3 and batman look amazing. but because of batmans abrupt end Uncharted 3 easily wins. its the perfect game to me Graphics, story, exlcusive, multiplayer. anything else?. Twisted metal 2 came with my ps1 when i was a kid, we loved it and were faithful fans all the way to TM BLACK (yes TW3 and 4 kinda sucked but thats because of the developer switching to 989 who sucked it dry). Now i have pre ordered the new TM. and it will be my 2012 GOTY regardless of ufc (<---- LOL What? the first one was horrificly boring) or ME3 (<---never interested). But thats me and if someone doesnt like car combar like me thats fine to his their own. Twisted metal may not sell the best (i think it should do pretty fine) but i have bought one copy of every version but TM1. TM BLACK is a good enough reason to pre order TM. Two AAA games for 60$? Ahhh Thank YOU!!! and im glad to support Jaffe he tells it like it is and isnt afraid to be himself and swear like a trucker (much like me). He's real and that makes his baby real. oh and bad ass. Twisted metal is and always will be the best of all time. wish jaffe send me a signed sweet tooth ;)

[DrDeath]

oh and not trolling on xbox whatsoever i have both systems.