Five reasons Skyrim 1.3 is still torturing console gamers

Patch 1.3 for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim may have solved around 15 old bugs, but it also introduced a range of new bugs.

[DonaldBeck]

i played this on ps3 and it im glad they fixed the long term lag but whats up with dragons flying backwards? i don't understand that.

@tominc, that's strange man, im over 80 hours in this game and it has its hickups here and there like any bethesda game but it does not lag on me like it used too. now i hardly notice any lag) but it comes once in a blue moon.

where do you get heavy lag at? is it after a certain amount of hours or so?
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

this youtube video shows what i am experiencing after the patch. the lag is nearly completely gone.

[TomInc]

I updated to 1.3 and still get heavy lag - especially when I'm fighting.. I've heard of others with the same issue. Not sure if the file just so big it became un-escapable.. One thing I do know is that it's annoying as hell!

[Pintheshadows]

It seems entirely random. I've played for about 225 hours and I haven't encountered any severe lag. Just tons of freezing since 1.2. But for everyone like me there is someone whose game is crippled by lag. It's so random I can picture Betheseda employees being grey by the time they've figured it out.

[FlashBack]

@Pintheshadows- Turn off all auto-save methods...It worked for me. It completely stopped freezing.

[AngryTypingGuy]

I have not encountered any backwards-flying dragons on my PS3 version of Skyrim, however today I killed a dragon and I wasn't able to absorb his soul. Hopefully just a one time deal.

It's going to be torture, but I think for future Bethesda games, I'm going to wait a little while until most of the bugs have been corrected.

[Biggest]

I encountered the non-soul giving dragon a few times. It's random and doesn't stick with you. I had my first flight impaired dragon right before the update. It made the dragon impossible to kill. Latest update more of less solved all the problems I had. I turned off the auto-save function long ago. Skyrim is finally becoming the game I wanted it to be from the beginning.

[JellyJelly]

By "console gamers" they must refer to PS3 gamers.

[DFogz]

@Flashback

I hadn't thought of turning off the auto-save. Thanks for the tip, I haven't had any freezing problems (130hrs playtime) but I do get some awful lag for a little bit when entering large areas, mostly cities.
Hopefully without the game trying to simultaneously load the enviro and auto-save it should cut that down some.

[dark-hollow]

this topic is so blown out of proportion...

[maxbox99]

The whole bug thing is blown out of proportion imo. I've had very few problems. This game if far from torturing me.

[fallingdove]

I wouldn't say blown out of proportion. There are definitely valid concerns, it just seems to only impact certain playstyles. I have two save games, 1 with 45 hours logged, another with 25 hours logged - both games' framerates are a slideshow, I often am sent on Thieves Guild quests where the marker is pointing to an unreachable area, and every time I appraoach a giant's camp, mammoths start falling from the sky. Not Bethesda's intended experience I assume.

[AKS]

I've seen dragons flying backwards in the PC version (the version I have) as well. I was in the process of aiming my bow and then it just started swirling and flying backwards in a bizarre, unpredictable manner. I wondered what the hell was going on and immediately looked it up online; evidently it's happened to lots of people.

[Bleucrunch]

I have to create multiple save files just so in the event one of the files gets corrupted for whatever reason i can continue using one of my other files...I tell you man as much work as I put into this game if it were to ever get corrupt I would have to stop playing alltogether because that is just too much time I put in man...it would be greatly depressing.

[JerryMatters]

I agree, I leave my system on the journal screen and return hours later without having to worry about reloading the game. Used to lag sometimes so i'd reboot, but since the patch, it hasn't lagged yet. Haven't seen a backward flying dragon either tho. :)

[TomInc]

I'm playing on PS3 and only really need to finish the Thieves Guild. Unfortunately the bug doesn't let me continue =/ Hoping they fix quests in January! It's a good game otherwise.

(-10,000 man points to the first petty "GET A XBOX" reply)

[thrasherv3]

Get a...PC? :D

But seriously, the backward flying dragons are the only problem I've had. When this happens they will never land. I used to run away from dragons at low level but now I spend an entire hour trying to get one to land but eventually giving up. So frustrating.

EDIT: No clue. Not sure how a sword can bring down a flying dragon tho. Does it have a special hidden perk that does this? I just got the thing yesterday so I have yet to use it on anything.

EDIT: Doh. You are talking about the shout. I have yet to get it :/

[TomInc]

I'll give you that one haha =)

I've not experienced backward flying dragons yet? Does Dragonrend not even work on them? oO

[dinkeldinkse]

Where are you stuck at the Thieves Guild?

I had a bug that wouldn't let me finish the last quest(Twilight Sepulcher one)so I had to reload an old save. Thank god, I made a manual save right before doing the quest.

[digitalkid]

Almost done with Thieves Guild on my PC. Are you sure that it's a bug? Maybe you just missed something?

And I've played more then 160h with no glitches excerpt twins in front of Whiterun stables. Not bothers me absolutely.

[NovusTerminus]

I find it amazing that a game this broken can win GOTY. This is just lazy devs.

[kevnb]

Not lazy, they just always seem to get in over their heads.

[rabidpancakeburglar]

It's only broken on the PS3, on the xbox I've played about 220 hours and in that time experienced only 2 freezes and about 2 minutes overall of the frame rate dropping. So that's why it could win GOTY, it's a fantastic game, just not on the PS3.

[kevnb]

theres framerate drops all the time on xbox, but nothing like the slideshow the ps3 version can become.

[theonlylolking]

Every time you go through the starting scene(going to helgen and while i helgen) there is 2min worth of lag on the xbox alone. There is also TONS of screen tearing on the 360. I can't say for the PS3 since I do not have on PS3 but the game IS a buggy mess on all platforms. From what I have seen on youtube the PS3 seems to have it the worst. The xbox 360 version is still playable but the game is not GOTY worthy.

[rabidpancakeburglar]

You guys must be unlucky then as I have experienced nothing like that. Then again maybe I'm lucky.

[xPhearR3dx]

@kevnb @theonlylolking

I highly doubt either of you played the 360 version. Every single person I know that has the 360 version hasn't had a single problem besides a few random freezes. I have well over 150+ hours into the game, no screen tearing, no frame drops, no game breaking glitches, just 2 times my Xbox froze. That's it. Not GOTY worthy my ass.

[maniacmayhem]

Not lazy devs, look at the scope and scale of this game and how can you say lazy devs?

The game is way too massive for current consoles to handle properly. Way too many movable/interactive objects, dead bodies, items that stay in world just too many things that cause strain on memory. A lot of the objects are just not necessary too. Wooden baskets, embalming tools? Why?

This should have been held back and made for next Gen consoles. Or Bethesda should have scaled this game better for consoles.

[thrasherv3]

Did you really just blame the consoles for Skyrim's glitches? Any game this massive has glitches. Look at all TES games. Even before they were made for consoles they had an enormous amount of glitches. Comes with the territory. Not some silly console restriction.

[maniacmayhem]

@thrash
yes all games have glitches but look at the type of glitches and bugs THIS game specifically has.
And it's because of the low memory these consoles have that some of these bugs appear. So yes part of the blame is on consoles.

Is that so hard to believe?

I also go on to say that Bethesda should have took this into account and made more of the none important objects non interactive.

[YodaCracker]

So it is GOTY worthy even with all these bugs? If it had no bugs, I guess it would be Game of the Decade!

[maxbox99]

lol there's a few bugs here and there (from what I've experienced) that must mean the devs are lazy right? They've made one of the biggest games of all time but they must be lazy right? In fact, they probably have the games with the most content but still they're just lazy asses right?

If you say these game developpers are lazy, it automaticaly means you're retarded. Sorry for my bad english.

[digitalkid]

Have you even played a game or just saw a few videos?)

[bozebo]

They aren't lazy. The game just needed a little more time to polish it, basically work on the fixes they are doing right now - but then it would have launched too late.

It would be nice if it was always possible for a game to not be launched unless it's perfected.
But, how do you know once it's perfected (and don't keep tweaking it and spoiling it somehow) and if it launches too late, it may not be enough of a financial success to be viable :S

[OcelotRigz]

I have noticed going back to a game and my latest saves being missing and having to do certain things all over again, very annoying.
Another problem being that my arrows don't hit the guys i'm shooting at, like i aim right at them and it goes thru them and does no damage. This is especially noticeable at long distances.
Such a pity and nuisance as i'm loving this game.

[TomInc]

But... How will all those guards take arrows in the knee?!

[drslump]

how can this be GOTY - Uncharted/Batman AC deserve it more

[maxbox99]

No way. These games dont even half the content skyrim has and you know it.

[aquamala]

You really think a game with 8 hour linear campaign is n any serious goty consideration with skyrim? Why would a game that short and linear have bugs?

[spektical]

wats the point when you cant even enjoy the game

GOTY uncharted 3.
runner up arkham city.

[_Aarix_]

Bs. Gears of war deserves it more than uncharted.

[boommuffin]

Why does every one say "Batman AC deserves it more cuz Skyrim has bugs" does no one remember how BAC wouldnt load the DLC & save files would randomly be deleted/corrupted? not to mention the standard glitches a open world game sometimes has like falling through the map

[ShaunCameron]

You mean torturing PS3 gamers.

[Rubberlegs]

Haven't got effected by any new glitch yet but all the bugged quests like the Thieves Guild they mention has been like that since day one. They are suppose to start working on data patches next month which will fix the bugged quests.

[josephayal]

I was havin fun and managed to get myself killed and when i tried to load my game it froze in the loading screen. However if i start a new game its just fine. Is this my 360 or maybe a bug in the game? i need help plz

[gigreen]

This is why since Fallout 3, I get all Bethesda games on PC :D

[Bolts]

Bethesda games belong on the PC and 360. It's proven that their engine doesn't like the PS3.

[Hazmat13]

i know everybody still seeing dragons, but hey when is Fallout 5? cant wait to see fallout with the updated engine.

[theDECAY]

It's Fallout 7. Stay current, jeez.

[Colonel_Dante]

Bethesda... I hope people find a way to sue you for the crap you do to us on ps3!!!
GOTY? LMFAO. There are studios that work for that award!

[Colonel_Dante]

Hazmat, if you watch Skyrim interviews, you will hear Bethesda say this is the New game engine. Its apparently not an upgrade/update to the engine powering Fallout 3/NV, Oblivion etc. So.. Fallout 4 and 5 will most probably use this engine...

[typeN8]

Wow just wow bethesda

I love alot of things about skyrim
But i hate that you sold me a broken game
And that you cant seem to fix it

How much do you guys get paid over there
I cant believe you did this to us

Not happy not cool

[DOOMZ]

Got it on 360, runs perfect... A masterpiece!!!

[jessupj]

And my wait to finally start this game continues. At this rate, the GOTY edition will release by the time they finally iron out all the bugs

[Orionsangel]

The patch messed up my PC version of Skyrim. Now some dungeons have choppy framerate.

[Elite-uk]

After playing for around 5 hours last night (1st time since 2.02(eu) patch)Its safe to say things have gotten worse for me.

I'm getting random crashes every hour or so.... i never had any problems before, with the exception of the windhelm house glitch & a few frame rate drops..... & the odd arrow to the knee ;)

Maybe it was just bad timing, i dont know..... still nowt gamebreaking yet though.....i'll just purchase another house. :)

[Elite-uk]

& lol @ whoever disagreed!.

[Neko_Mega]

Have almost every trophy and now if it gets to a loading screen, it freeze's up.

[Mag10]

Final Fantasy XIII is better than this bug-infested, overrated, glitchfest of a game.

[Chuk5]

That's a joke.

[Mag10]

It's certainly more polished than Skyrim and that's a fact.

[Colonel_Dante]

Mag10... umm..no.. , FF7.8.9.10 is better than this. rather play a game as a Dragonborn than a teenage girl in a RPG.

[swice]

They are using us as mass-testers. Sure they've already done in-house testing, but having millions of testers for a game like this is what they really want/need. If only we were getting paid instead of paying them...*sigh* here's to the future of Skyrim. May we find and squash every bug in this game

[hazardman]

The only problem I've had with Skyrim is seeing flying Mammoths every time I found the giants. Besides that I have experienced no lag or any other weird stuff, I have not seen a dragon yet, well in the wild at least. I've been doing alot of exploring just finding as many locations as possible and training. When I'm at a decent level I'm gonna take over all of Skyrim with a vengeance. The archery is so awesome, way better than Oblivion, also making your own powerful potions is great. Despite all the nagging about bugs, its still one of the better games I've played this gen. I just can't put this game down. Another thing, how did Bethestda put this game on 1disc and other devs need multiple DVDs for other games?

[DanSolo]

I've not got the game yet and am looking forward to getting it and enjoying it fully when you have all finished beta-testing it for me..... Thanks everybody, I salute you! :-)

[NyGiants7]

PS3 gamers still getting fucked from multiplat games?

[SSultan]

Why do people love this game???

[Bobby Kotex]

Played this on PC and finished all the main quest factions with only one major bug requiring a quest restart. The bug involved a dragon NPC.