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Most Shocking sales disappointments of 2011

Lots of games rated highly by the critics not seeing sales as good as hoped for.

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Sanetoshi4531d ago

I dunno. Maybe it's just me, but it's really hard to consider a game that sells over a million copies a disappointment. Plenty of excellent games that are considered successes by the companies that make them never sell a million.

buddymagoo4531d ago

Most shocking gaming article! It's not just you people like the games they like regardless of sales.

Army_of_Darkness4531d ago

But they still got up 2 PS3 exclusives that they like and think deserve more sales?! lol! weird...

XboxBoy4531d ago

@ buddy

Shut the fu** up and go back to your football site, your not a gamer.

Iroquois_Pliskin4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

Why is msxbox world ranking ps3 exclusives???? Of course they are gonna play it down! Any brain dead moron can see that.

BTW what is their source? Numbers they pulled out of their asses?

NegativeCreep4274531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

I'm not trying to say that "redeems" R3 in anyway. R3 is a great game regardless, but I have to bring that up just because I don't think this source hadn't taken that into consideration. This source seems to have only considered September sales numbers for R3.

RankFTW4531d ago

Well considering Alan Wake came out last year I call this article fail. Considering this is an xbox site you would have thought they'd have known that.

da_2pacalypse4531d ago

lol im pretty sure that Eidos even said that they sold more copies of Deus Ex than they expected... They sold so many copies that Square Enix is expanding Eidos Montreal in order to make a sequel of Deus Ex and Theif 4.

disturbing_flame4530d ago

"Wow, it looks like resistance 3 have reach in one month what Alan wake have done in a year, let call that a disaster."

Man that article was really annoying.

EVILDEAD3604530d ago (Edited 4530d ago )

LMAO @ pretending Alan Wake came out in 2011..

Classic case of FAILED Fan blogger journalism

Please ladies and gentleman..look at the history of MSXBOX and try to pretend they are 360 site..they arent

Evil

Yi-Long4530d ago

... but considering the DLC-milking/scamming they'll be doing for quite some time, I'm not dropping a nickle on it until there's a complete edition being released.

da_2pacalypse4530d ago

@disturbing_flame no those are Alan wake sales for this year. Alan wake actually sold a fair amount of copies after a while... It just didn't sell that many copies at launch because it was released on the same day as RDR.

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lelo2play4531d ago

Maybe a multiplatform game "only" selling a million is not so great... but a exclusive selling a million, i think it's pretty good (since it's only on one console).

modesign4531d ago

dont forget, alan wake and forza were suppose to be gaming gold. so only selling a million is pretty bad when every one speculated on them selling a few million

PirateThom4531d ago

Ah, see, you've made the mistake here of thinking this arguement applies to 360 games. It doesn't, when 360 games only sell a million copies, it's "disappointing" and "there must be a reason why".

On the other hand, a PS3 game selling a million copies is a failure and people don't care about exclusives.

nefertis4531d ago

Alan Wake deserve to sell more copies, i wish it was on the ps3.

Mickbelfast4531d ago

Was recently announced Alan wake broke 1.5 million & it was the 360s most pirated game, it's the game that made me get a 360.. It's that good

NegativeCreep4274531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

But what you don't consider is the fact that Xbox 360 sycophants take high sales figures alot more seriously than the PS3 loyalists. Xbox 360 fanboys see that as the de facto measure of success, so when people talk of Alan Wake and Forza's "disappointing" sales numbers, they are simply applying the same ruling measure as the Xbox 360 fanboys. It seems MS fanboys want to have it both ways and are being hypocritical.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34531d ago

Ah, so you base your gaming lively hood on 360 fanboys and what they think or tell you? Your life sounds miserable, lol...

oohWii4531d ago

@NegativeCreep427 - Where is the other side of your argument? You rant about how 360 fanboy see things. Your omission of the PS3 fanboy's poing of view easily shows that you're just a whiny little PS3 fanboy trying to rationalize his need to hear some good news about his console of choice.

Grow up.

KingZFlipper4530d ago

and Alan Wake came out in 2010, not 2011.

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Jerkstore814531d ago

The problem is there are too many good games coming out at once fighting for our dollars, and the $60 price tag is too high. By the time they get a price drop we've all forgotten about them.

ArmrdChaos4530d ago

You also need to consider that a lot of these story based single player games have less replay value once you complete them. I would like to see them add rental numbers with these sales numbers to see where the true interest levels are. With completion times of 6 to 10 hours I would believe that most are opting to rent instead of buy.

voodoopickle4530d ago

i would also like to see the amount of copys traded in within the first 6 months, although im guessing that would be a real hard figure to obtain

aquamala4531d ago

With games costing so much to make, one million is not enough for some games

bumnut4531d ago

£40 x 1,000,000 is a good return in my book.

TheIneffableBob4531d ago

Try less than half that.

You have console licensing costs (this means more profit on PC), distribution costs, and marketing costs.

Dark_Overlord4531d ago

That £5+ extra added onto console games covers the licensing costs

mcstorm4530d ago

I think any game that reaches 1 million has sold well more than hat is a bonus. Thrre are only a few games like halo cod gt and most of ninendo exclusives that sell more than 3 million on each console as these are the games that people buy that console for.

Some games also have legs like forza it sells small numbers but over 12 months. But this gen seem to be all about mw shooters for some reason.

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Thatguy-3104531d ago

Resistance 3 was the best in the series ...disappointing that a lot of gamers didn't pick it up

dinkeldinkse4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

I think RFOM is by far the best in the series. Being completely honest, I think R2 is better than R3 because of the coop.

Edit: Btw sales numbers along with GOTY awards are worthless to me. inFamous 2 is my favorite game of this year, regardless if I am the only one that bought it or one of many that bought it.

hennessey864531d ago

I agree, fall of man was a stunning game and the best in the series. 2 and 3 were good but not as good a s 1

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34531d ago

Although I'm a fan of the Resistance series and feel the first one is the best out of the ones I've played, neither had a quality I'd consider stunning...

JBaby3434530d ago

I haven't played R3 yet but I consider R1 to be better than R2.

@dinkeldinkse: I bought inFamous 2 also and while good I liked the original much more. But I'm glad you liked it so much.

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kevnb4531d ago

ya 1 million sales is huge, thats a freaking million people buying a game. Not every game can be huge like call of duty.

enfestid4531d ago

It's all relative. If Call of Duty only sold a million copies, would you classify it as a disappointment? I would. Just like some of these games selling over a million is a disappointment, given the marketing behind them, the developers, etc.

Dee_914531d ago

so im guessing every game with a buzz on the internet is suppose to sell a couple million in a few months ...to be considered a sucess ..

MoreRPG4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

you got to consider the development cost of each of these games
anyway at least for me these are good games it seems kinda disappointing to see these sales

Vortex3D4530d ago (Edited 4530d ago )

If the publisher spent too much money on the development making and marketing the game, then selling a million copies still wouldn't cover the cost.

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TheDareDevil4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

I don't know how Alan Wake features in this list since it released in 2010 but I think a million units is good.
Most of the games featured on this list are over a million. I don't know how that is considered a disappointment.

Gamer19824531d ago

Indeed 1 million is good but 1 million for Forza is bad especially when we know 360 gamers are all about the sales and GT5 has sold nearly 7 million. They bang on about how much better Forza and sales = quality so if tru then why hasn't Forza outsold GT5? It's not going to ever either looking at sales and how much they have slowed down now. I honestly agree though 1 million is a success for most devs but turn 10 will not be happy with that.

Forza 3 has sold 5 million lifetime so the article writer is trying to figure out why people are not upgrading.. Kinect is the reason and most people bought GT5 now. Lets not kid ourselves GT5 gamers couldnt wait and bought a 360 and Forza. They moved on now and thats why Forza 4 sales are dead compared to Forza 3.

sarshelyam4530d ago

First weeks sales are what they look at. Lifetime sales don't take into account the duration of measurement. I piece of software selling 1 million units its first month, does not equal a piece of software selling 1 mullion units over the course of 3 months.

Frankly, developers have goals, and publishers have projections. This time of the year the projections are incredibly short, usually first week, sometimes extending to a second or third. That said, as new competitive software releases cross and on platform, they have to drop the expectation on projections and cut off sales tracking as it relates to the overall budget recoup.

It's too bad, because if one looks at a game like Valkyria Chronicles [PS3], it was a commercial disaster upon release (selling only 30k units in its release window). Then timing hit where GameStop and like retailers dropped the price so the stock would sell through. If you looked at the overall sales for the title at this time, any developer/publisher would consider it a commercial success, especially considering the genre which tends to be a bit more on the niche side in an industry dominated by the shooter.

LettingGo4531d ago

Watch it, man. These people don't like Enslaved. They think because the reaction time on the combat isn't as fast as a normal action game...that it's a bad game. Forgive them. They're young....

AAWELLS094531d ago

I totally agree and had a blast playing the game. Very well made.

Laxman4531d ago

Was one of my favorites of last year. Was such a well told story and actually had some of the best game characters Ive seen in a while in terms of having the player care for them and thier story. Andy Serkis is awesome. Take the scene *SPOILERS* Trip takes the Slave band off Monkey and he says to put it back on. That is just so well done its amazing.

mt4530d ago

I wish I liked enslaved demo so I could buy it.

MadMax4530d ago

You missed one hell of a game! The demo did it no justice at all.

Spenok4530d ago

Hell, if your interested in it at all, you can buy it new for no more then $20 now. And as MadMax states the Demo did it absolutely NO justice.

Spenok4530d ago

Completely agree. It was a very well put together game. The only thing i was kind of dissapointed by was the ending... it just didnt feel like enough was given. The graphics, story, and acting was fantastic though.

xtremexx4530d ago

yea the ending wasnt the best part to be honest

sarshelyam4530d ago

Agreed. I don't think I need to speak more to this comment, other than state that the sales didn't matter, to me. I enjoyed it.

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RaidensRising4531d ago

When games like Saints Row 3 get 1 million in a week. Assassin's Creed Revelations over 2 million in a week and games like MW 3 Battlefield 3, Gears 3, Uncharted 3 all doing incredibly well, the gap has widened between those just reaching a million, and those going way beyond the once benchmark figure.

FCOLitsjustagame4531d ago

There could be some bad timing involved as well. The fall/winter had some big games coming out so I held off on games like Deus Ex and Forza 4 which I will go back for.

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Viljong358d ago

The og deus ex is magical. Im also very exited about mass effect legendary edition from the gp. Its next on my playlist never played mass effect game before.

IamTylerDurden1358d ago (Edited 358d ago )

Never played ME? It's imo the greatest trilogy of all-time and perhaps the best setting outside maybe Fallout. Play it. Great DLC as well. In 2 & 3 at least. Skip Andromeda. Also, Human Revolution was great as well even if OG fans claim otherwise.

shinoff2183358d ago

Mass effect 1 was great. I feel they dumbed down alot on the 2nd one and seemed more action like. Mass effect 1 the citadel was an explorable city. Far as I got in Mass effect 2 it was reduced to a location list no traveling through it. I disliked it alot(the citadel) part. I also feel they went more action oriented then rpg

just_looken358d ago

It always makes me mad when you see something you have done in the first mass effect or dragon age can make something change in the 3rd because bioware make 6 games in what 8 years? that did this but today 0 games do this.

I wish we had trilogies today were we can share saves and have multiple endings/path's on all 3 because of choices from anyone of them.

Its so funny being the bad sheparad from one to 3 then the end having just you and joker ha ha yet everyone is like hey your a hero with a 90% casualty rate.

CBaoth358d ago

Fallout can't hold Mass Effect's jockstrap. The one Fallout even in the ballpark is 3, and that's only because the DLC was extremely good. When Ken Rolston was in Bethesda's employment were they good. That's about it. They're now the world's greatest copy/paste developer out there. Bioware at their pinnacle was ten times better a studio than Todd's team. Go look up the games

IamTylerDurden1357d ago

Mass Effect is my favorite, followed by 2 and 3. Yes, ME2 was dumbed down but also refined in terms of polish and accessibility. ME2 had an awesome story, great DLC, and a solid cast. Mordin in particular. It's a great game. Even 3 which was the weakest was still solid imo despite the ending. If u love ME how do u not enjoy all 3?

Fallout is not a better game though FO3 was great. In terms of setting though Fallout is Mt Rushmore. The 50's post apoc setting was brbrilliant. I still put ME setting n lore above but FO is up there with setting.

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esherwood358d ago

Man play mass effect, best games ever

Miraak82 358d ago

Xenogears is my fav sci fi rpg

closed_account357d ago

Right? There's a serious lack of classics on this list.

The original 2 Star Oceans. Rogue Galaxy...

IamTylerDurden1357d ago

Rogue Galaxy never got that critical love. Beautiful PS2 game. Was it L5?

closed_account357d ago

@IamTylerDurden1 Yep, Level5. Love their stuff. Dark Cloud 3 please...

Godmars290358d ago

Why aren't there more? A Star Trek RPG for one. Or something with non humanoid aliens?

shinoff2183358d ago

Cause for some damn reason medieval is more popular ugghhh. I'd take some sci fi sh anyway over it. I've said time and time again I hope the elden guys are working on a sci fi type game.

Godmars290358d ago (Edited 358d ago )

Something non-post apocalypse or dystopian. Just world saving. Fighting bad guys while doing good and dealing with ethical/moral/psychological quandaries.

sadraiden357d ago

The reason why fantasy RPGs, and Fantasy as a genre, are more popular than Sci-Fi, is because of the low technology/high magic tropes. If all of your problems can be solved with looking up the answer on a smartphone, well, there's just lower stakes than if a character has to have a sword fight, and climb the tower, and rescue the fair princess and recite the ancient incantation to seal the evil.

Obviously you can have universe ending stakes in Sci-Fi, but that requires abstract reasoning, and an ability to RP in a way that is progressive instead of regressive. Couple that with Sci-Fi games and media generally being faster paced, and you've got a genre that attracts a very specific demographic of gamers.

just_looken358d ago

or go crazy and make a starship troopers rpg can you survive the bug fight?

The animated show was great showed what someone can do with the lore.

Fist4achin357d ago

A Starship Troopers game as a real time strategy like the command and conquer series would be awesome.

just_looken357d ago

@fist

We have that today but its a small team with a smal budget
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Its not a major rts sadly but a start

jznrpg358d ago

I really hope Naughty Dog is doing a Sci-Fi game. As a lover all most things RPG I would love to see Naughty Dog quality in an RPG.

porkChop358d ago

They could do some really great stuff with sci-fi. The sense of grand adventure of Uncharted, but also with the stealth and crafting of The Last of Us. Different planets, creative alien races, collecting junk to craft repairs and upgrades for your ship and weapons, etc.

shinoff2183358d ago

Porkchop

Your getting me excited for something that doesn't exist. Damn

shinoff2183358d ago

He'll yea , hope we here something about that if they are. I'm not to worried about factions at all

just_looken358d ago

If it was the old naughty dog i would want that the new naughty dog no thanks.

IamTylerDurden1357d ago (Edited 357d ago )

TLOU2 is the finest game ND has made. U4 was fantastic. New ND is a more impressive ND. I don't rate Crash n Jak like i do Uncharted and TLOU. Even Uncharted 1 and 3 were not as well crafted as TLOU, TLOU2, U4 imo. Idc if ppl troll TLOU2, most ppl are clueless, that game was incredibly impressive.

TLOU2 combat, visuals, and acting were the best of the genre. I found the story deeper and more profound than most but it's subjective. The level design was excellent also. The score. Audio. Animation. It was a masterpiece to me. The rope physics, detail. TLOU2 deserved Elden Ring scores and ER deserved TLOU2 scores. If any game deserved 97 in recent years it's TLOU2. Best game i ever played and if ppl come with Abby bs i already know it's not worth it. Those who call TLOU2 trash are foolish. Just look at it running...

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60 BEST Adventure Games Of All Time

The Adventure games genre is insanely massive and creative, so here is the in-depth list of its Best and greatest titles to play in 2022.

SinisterMister603d ago

Is Elden Ring an adventure game? If so, it should be at the top of the list.

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Xbox 360/PS3 Ports That Would Be Great on Nintendo Switch

Here's a list of Xbox 360/PS3 games that would be great on the Nintendo Switch (at a modest, reasonable price of course). These games could really flourish if given a new lease on life, introducing a new generation to their greatness.

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MichaelKnight83657d ago (Edited 657d ago )

I'm sure R* knows the Nintendo Switch install base and probably dont really care to port over more R* games to the Nintendo Switch tho i gotta say playing GTA4 & RDR1 on the go on the Nintendo Switch would be dope

Knightofelemia657d ago

I would buy Lollipop Chainsaw, Alice Madness Returns, Enslaved, Splatter House, Brutal Legends, Dante's Inferno, and Dead Space for sure if they were ported to the Switch.

Mobis-New-Nest657d ago

Deus Ex Human Revolution would be a great title to The Holy Grail of All Consoles aka The Nintendo Switch*. Also Haze Remastered, Grand Theft Auto 4 and 5 Remastered, Silent Hill HD Collection, Max Payne 3 Remastered, Call of Duty World At War Remastered, The Orange Box Remastered, Halo Master Chief Collection, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 Remastered, Metal Gear Solid 4 Remastered, Afro Samurai Remastered, Demons Souls Remastered, Xmen Destiny Remastered, Jack and Daxter Collection, Def Jam Icon Remake, Folklore Remastered, Spiderman Edge of Time Remastered, Persona 5 remastered, the list goes on. (*Best Selling Console of All Time)

MontyeKristo657d ago (Edited 657d ago )

Can we just get a Bully 2? 😒

iplay1up2657d ago

Seriously? Isn't it time Nintendo make a Switch successor? I mean they have the sales and money.

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