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This Map Looks Familiar – Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception

Declan Gordon writes: "As the final fade to black occurs and the last quip is tossed out to the rolling credits and closing score, it’s time to pry the controller from my white-knuckles and talk about Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception."

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Dante1124575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

Nice read, this guy gave UC3 a 10 btw ( http://n4g.com/news/884920/... ). I just hate how critics and journalists feel that with every game released in any gaming series, that it has to create the wheel or create a new wheel.

Edit: But even that is weird because if you change a game too much (Socom 4 or BF:BC2) most critics and fans will say that the devs should've stuck with the original formula since nothing was wrong with it. So it's kinda a lose/lose situation.

iamnsuperman4575d ago

Very true but really irritates me is how some games get slated for no innovation but others get free passes (double standards). I think there need to be improvements but every game in a series doesn't need to be a big game changer and have a major update. That's just impossible.

Dante1124575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

"Very true but really irritates me is how some games get slated for no innovation but others get free passes (double standards)."

I know I might get rated down for this even though I love this game series, but I feel like the Grand Theft Auto series gets free passes sometimes. I even think GTA5 might beat GTA4's metacritic score this time around.

darthv724575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

but with us as consumers/gamers. These games start off as ideas and progress from there. We develop our own ideas of how these games are going to be and when they dont live up to our personal hype then we chastise the developers for creating the game the way it is.

Its a love/hate relationship. For some there is a style and flow that just works. We may not see the revolution each time a game is released but we generally see some type of evolution.

Although, its a double edge sword. If the changes that are made arent significant enough to warrant a buy then the developers and publishers will feel it and possibly either go back to the drawing board to wow the crowd or they could pull the plug on the whole thing.

zeeshan4575d ago

So let me get this great. CALL OF DUTY is GREAT every year with OUT any CONS because hey it's the same COD game. Gears 3 is great because yoo!! It's GEARS man and Halo? Wow!! The good ol' HALO is great cuz it's freggin Halo man!

Uncharted 3? Nah! It's the same gorgeous and amazing game but man, who needs amazing, we need new!

mendicant4575d ago

@zeeshan,

No you're missing the point. Those are sequels that got the "more of the same" principle right. Refine and give people what the want, what they expect from that series.

Uncharted 3 didn't do that for me so after I finished it, I traded it in. Not worth the price. I went in wanting that UC2 experience/quality and I didn't get it. I'm not mad about it though; if you love it then love it. In all cases with the exception of Resistance 3 and Killzone 3, the other sequels are better.

What's lame is people having to explain how much they love the other games just to pacify the sony cult crowd.

Biggest4575d ago

I wonder if mendicant thinks he is fooling ANYONE with his fake "But I love Uncharted 2" shtick.

ABizzel14575d ago

I've had the game since launch, but I still haven't played it. My thing is developers had their expectation to be blown away again, and Naughty gave more Uncharted 2 with a different, which isn't a bad thing at all, and shouldn't be knocked.

IMO Naughty Dog could have waited until 2012 to release the game, and in that time they could have done things like add more exploration (like MGS4), improved graphics as much as possible, and make a grander adventure, not that Uncharted 3 isn't. If these things would have been there then there would have been no room for complaints.

BattleAxe4575d ago

I've been playing through Uncharted 3 since release day, but I still haven't finished it. I have been putting in an hour and a half here and there, because it just doesn't suck me in the way that the first two games did. I'm on that big cruise ship now, and its moments like these where you see the huge ocean waves, and the whole ship rocking back and forth where you're like OMFG....but I agree with the article when the guy says that you don't really get to "hang out" on the levels like Uncharted 2 or Drake's Fortune for that matter. This game moves too quickly from location to location IMO. The only level where I thought ND didn't really hit the mark all that well was that big castle in Syria, because the level just felt empty. The Jungle in France was awesome though.

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dark-hollow4575d ago

I can't really get the "innovative" and "and who done x first" arguments.

In this time and age, it is hard to produce something totally original and "new".

It is not about who did this or that first, but it is about who takes great ideas and translate them into one epic product.

darthv724575d ago

it isnt so much about who does what first. Its about who can sell it better. Games are getting political these days far more than any previous generation.

By that I mean we have our choices and we try to back what we consider the winner. Yet the one with the most $$$ vested has a better chance of winning than the underdog. Even if the underdog could be better in the long run.

EA and activision have been at blows a few times over who is better and who is more popular. Tony hawk vs skate...Guitar hero vs rock band...battlefield vs cod. Its like one cant let the other have their cake and eat it too.

Its a real shame when sometimes the better gets beaten by the popular. This is a general statement and could reflect practically anything.

Ok....that seemed a bit off topic. On topic, the game is good and extends the story in the way ND and sony wanted it to. It never set out to change the world, only continue the story.

jspencep4575d ago

@ darthv72
"the game is good and extends the story in the way ND and sony wanted it to. It never set out to change the world, only continue the story."

I completely agree. And I think ND went above and beyond with this. I simply don't get where all the hate is coming from.

Christopher4575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

Here's my question to those who say U3 doesn't surpass U2 enough: "What the heck can you think of doing with the Uncharted series that doesn't turn it into another game that doesn't feel like Uncharted, but would make you feel like how you felt when you first played Uncharted 2?" And note, all of these complaints are all about the single-player game, nothing about the multiplayer options provided.

Seriously, I know a lot of people don't like a lot of the same--and millions of people do *cough*CoD*cough*--but there are considerations to be made considering sometimes there's only so far you can go before you start making an entirely new game.

Perhaps for this reason alone, Naughty Dog has mentioned that they like to do a whole new franchise with each generation of consoles.

Personally, the fact I could melee my way through almost every single bit of the game rather than use guns; the level designs that, IMHO, topped what we saw in Uncharted 2 (ship graveyard blew me away); the many improvements to physics (moving cover and other objects, improved animations, improved water physics, new sand physics, ridiculously improved lighting); a story that is more mature, like many gamers requested, and yet still feels like an Indiana Jones movie (heck if you can't draw comparisons between Marlowe and the female antagonist in the last Indiana flick).

I don't play the Uncharted games to have a huge set of new gameplay modes, I play them to have great solid gameplay, a "Indiana Jones" story, great acting (both voice and mocap), and a truly cinematic experience. For once, the Uncharted series have made me feel like I am playing a movie out. Yes, it's linear, yes it's a cliched story with some mystical elements, yes the characters aren't Oscar worthy, and yes it doesn't give you the freedom to change the story. But, honestly, I don't care because not only do most games out there do the exact same thing, this game does it the best (IMHO).

jspencep4575d ago

I guess I understand if people don't like the movie style, but absolutely no game can even touch UC3's ability to engage the player in a movie-like experience.

Christopher4575d ago

Yeah, but does it take 3 Uncharted games to come to the realization that you don't like them?

TBM4574d ago

Yea i was blown away by the ship grave yard too. i just got a plasma tv and replayed that level again, and i was completely floored. that level played extremely well.

Pl4sm44575d ago

i heard this somewhere ''u cant please anyone'' ...

Christopher4575d ago

I believe you mean "You can't please everyone all of the time."

christoph2034575d ago

how could this guy give uncharted 3 a 10/10 when he just listed all the mistakes and issues in the game.. Gamings review system is truly broke. & i do agree with him UC2 is alot better then UC3

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DonaldBeck4575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

nothing new for uncharted's standards is still goty because uncharted in general does things other console games dont.

SageHonor4575d ago

True, but it is indeed a great gamea. The cinematics among other things is something games could learn from.

BuT_TeR4575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

Ya ND should learn something from MW3 and need to realize they need to change it up a bit.

edit: /s

DonaldBeck4575d ago

what? copy and paste from uncharted 1?

dc14575d ago

Glad you spelled out the sarcasm

WhiteLightning4575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

Sorry but it did do new things, it's not just like COD which dosen't improve on anything. ND worked their arses off to make sure they added new things and improved on what was already there.

What about all the little things ND pushed themselfs to do and tweak in this game.

The way Drake interacts with the enviroments

Grabbing bottles, pans in fights to use on enemies or even knock there head off a side of a pool table or piece of wood

The way Drake grabs banisters when going up/down stairs or how he puts his hands out when he hits a wall

The sand particles and water simulation

To say it does nothing new is ridiculous, even though the site give it a perfect score why is everyone one trying to take this game apart to write something negative about it..............more site hits ?

PetitPiPi4575d ago (Edited 4575d ago )

"it's not just like COD which dosen't improve on anything"

Pure lies! Play the game before talking BS. Now I know what to expect when I see a comment from WhiteLightning.

Just to let you know, I'm far from a COD fanboy.

"why is everyone one trying to take this game apart to write something negative about it"

Please tell me why you're doing the exact same thing with MW3 in and Uncharted article?

Hicken4574d ago

What, mechanically, has changed in MW3? What new animations are there? What new sounds are there? What new physics are there?

For all the "improvements" MW3 made, it's indistinguishable from its previously released brethren.

On the other hand, UC3 feels very different from the first two games, as they each feel different from the other. Little things, like how a fight can end different ways depending on where you are in a room, or the fact that you can fight your way through most encounters instead of just shooting, add to what winds up being a very different experience.

And this is all campaign. There are even more changes in multiplayer. That, alone, is addicting enough that my friends and I were up until 5 am this morning playing, without knowing it.

What has MW3 changed in the franchise that couldn't have been done as a patch or DLC to MW2?

"Just to let you know, I'm far from a COD fanboy." Your comment history says otherwise, especially the fact that the only thing you did was bring up his reference to CoD, and say NOTHING relevant to Uncharted, NOR were you able to discount his reference by refuting it with evidence within the game you accuse him of not playing.

WhiteLightning4574d ago (Edited 4574d ago )

"Now I know what to expect when I see a comment from WhiteLightning."

Now I know what to expect when I see a comment from PetitPiPi

A trollish, COD freak comment full of pure BS and trying to stick up for a crappy game which when compared to Uncharted has no chance of being better.

Think I'm wrong look at the Agree/Disagree ratio.....plus take notice at what Hicken has said you troll

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Analyzing 'Uncharted: Drake’s Deception' – Wait, What is The Game About?

Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception has a lot to live up to as Uncharted 2: Among Thieves is an incredible and near-perfect game.

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Profchaos930d ago

It's about retirement...oh wait

UNCHARTED2FANATIC930d ago (Edited 930d ago )

I cant even say what the point was its easily the worst story in the series. The online was a whole lot of fun though but overall doesn't come even close to 2

porkChop930d ago (Edited 930d ago )

It was a step back for sure. Personally, I thought even the MP was way better in U2. Solid game, glad I played it. I just think they didn't push as hard as they did with U2.

UNCHARTED2FANATIC925d ago

Yes both the online and story was better in 2 no doubt

Flewid638930d ago

The "young Drake" portion was pretty top notch, story-wise. But yeah, everything outside of that I felt was inferior.

DanielEndurance930d ago

Villains were all over the place in this… one second they wanted Drake dead, the next they needed him, then they want him dead again, then they coulda killed him, but poisoned his friend instead, then coulda shot him again, but had brunch with him, then needed him alive, then coulda mowed him down, but decided to kill him by fire and let him escape… Uncharted 2 was way better. 😅😅

slowgamer930d ago

=D Sounds crazy. I don't remember any of that. Played it on ps3 and I remember thinking that why was this game so bashed compared to second one. I liked it.

Chocoburger929d ago (Edited 929d ago )

Another thing that annoyed me about UC3 events was the agent Talbot teleporting around Turkey. It just felt off to me, and made no sense.

Also, for about one third of the game, you go on a wild goose chase to rescue Sully, who wasn't even there to be rescued, and you end up back where you started again. There was simply no pay off for all the events you go through, so it fell flat in that regard as if they couldn't figure out how to make the game longer, so they decided to side-track you to do something with no pay off, hoping you wouldn't notice due to all the incredible action set pieces they made.

Overall though, even with its flaws, I still enjoy the game.

TheEnigma313930d ago

This was actually my least favorite in the series. Didn't have that same impact that part 2 set.

Flewid638930d ago

Uncharted 2 is the pinnacle of the series (to me).

Granted, 4 had the best story in my opinion, but 2 was the overall best game.

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Uncharted 3 Anniversary Retrospective: Shackled By Its Precursor's Legacy

A decade after its release, how does Uncharted 3 fare today? Does its story still work? Was its precursor’s legacy a bedrock or quicksand for its own aspirations?

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SullysCigar931d ago

When arguably the weakest game in the series is still awesome and more fun than most games today, you know you're onto a winner!

coolbeans931d ago

I'd extend "arguably" before awesome too. Many technically demanding scenes were jaw-dropping for the time, but it's tough to ignore the sub-par context propelling the action forward.

SullysCigar931d ago

Tough for you, perhaps, and that's fine. I enjoyed it very much. Perhaps a little less than the others in the series, but then the bar is extremely high.

I remember being blown away by the water and sand tech in U3 for the time too. It certainly was a visual treat!

LucasRuinedChildhood930d ago (Edited 930d ago )

It is very good, but when I originally played Uncharted 3 it was the most disappointed I'd ever been in a video-game because Uncharted 2 was just that good. I enjoyed 3 much more when I replayed it in the Nathan Drake Collection though. I could just enjoy it for what it is and accept that it's not Uncharted 2 - it's not a roller coaster, and it doesn't balance and rotate between action, puzzles, platforming and set-pieces in the same way.

Uncharted 3's gameplay is a bit more compartmentalized and focused on one thing at a time. I'm not surprised the scrapped version of Uncharted 4 was going to have no gunplay for the first half. It's also paced much differently - it takes a long time to get to the notable set-pieces. Uncharted 2 is insane from Nepal onwards which is about an hour into the game. haha.

I did like the introduction of chase sequences, and I love first hour (bar fight, young Drake) and from the airplane sequence onwards but I just think the rest of it just sort of meanders along without as much purpose as 2.

When it comes to the script, you can feel the absence of Neil Druckmann and Josh Scherr (writer on every other console Uncharted game). Drake gets hit in the face, and the game goes on a random side plot for an hour to give you some boat set-pieces. He then washes up on a beach close to where Elena is staying to get you back to the real plot. Drake just says "How convenient" to try make you laugh off how sloppy the plot got.

In retrospect, I'm not sure if Naughty Dog were ready to work on 2 different games at once. 3 clearly had production issues that 1 and 2 didn't have, and Hennig's version of 4 didn't work out. They had to crunch so hard to get the rebooted version done on time that Bruce Straley gave up making video-games.

coolbeans930d ago

I'll give you some props for the extra analysis. I remember Druckmann climbing his way to a writer spot in UC2, but wasn't aware of Josh Scherr. I didn't know that was the reason for Straley's departure either. That's pretty damn rough.

GhostofHorizon930d ago

They had to make some weird choices as far as story went because the actor for Cutter had to bail which left a few holes in the story.

Uncharted is one of my favourite series and while the leap from 2 to 3 was not nearly as big as the leap from 1 to 2, I think it was an amazing experience none the less.

coolbeans930d ago

Graham McTavish's departure wasn't easy, but I don't think that would fix many holes tbh. Because the main issue to consider is the precarious mindset Naughty Dog was operating on: an increased emphasis in set pieces that HAD to go in and worrying about the context later.

Petebloodyonion930d ago

I really liked part 3 ( Among Thieves is still the best in my opinion) My only complaint was the interactions with the villains and how they were a missed opportunity, Linda MacMahon (Marlowe) was an interesting antagonist due to the history with Sully and Nate but it fails basically flat especially with her ending. And I couldn't care about Navaro 2.0.

What I did love and made me care was Cutter, in the short time he was in the game you could feel that the guy was a good treasure hunter for example when he pulled his own notebook with the clues he founds so the team can escape a room.
It was a small touch that add a lot to the character.

Good-Smurf930d ago

Marlowe was played by Rosalind Ayres.

MadLad930d ago (Edited 930d ago )

I have mixed feelings on the series. I still own all of them on the PS3, and the collection for PS4, but I didn't truly "love" any of the games until 4.

They're good games, but they always stumble on some element.
The first is good, but the climbing mechanics weren't exactly fine tuned with the first showing. Not to mention the spongey enemies if you played on anything past normal; but you're then faced with a fairly unchallenging game experience.
The second mostly fixed the climbing, but added in a pretty clumsy stealth mechanic.
Three was just two with a new story.

Four got it right though.
I don't remember once getting annoyed by any mechanic had in the game.

I know that everyone has a soft spot for 2, and 3 is sort of the black sheep of the series; but they did, overall, get progressively better. Which doesn't always happen.

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Ranking the Uncharted Games From Worst to Best

KeenGamer: "Which Uncharted game is the best? Uncharted is widely recognized as one of the most groundbreaking and consistently great franchises in gaming. For both long-time fans and newcomers to this action-adventure classic, here’s a ranking of the franchise’s four main games."

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Kyizen1029d ago

UC 2, 4, 3 and 1. Great read and article

ABizzel11028d ago

No Golden Abyss -_-, otherwise I agree with the order.

UC2: Best overall
UC4: Best graphics, best gameplay, best locations, best environements
UC3: Best set pieces IMO (the boat and desert fights will always be amazing)
UC1: A rough Draft of what was to come
UCGA: Basically UC1 on Vita

Levii_921029d ago (Edited 1029d ago )

Great list and great article nicely writen and explained. Although for me personaly i would put Drakes Fortune above Drake’s Deception and Uncharted 4 is absolutely my favourite of the franchise and number 1 for me.

Inverno1029d ago

U2 is the only game playable on crushing without causing a great amount of frustration. Not to mention just how much influence it had that they redid some of U2s set pieces like the caravan twice, and armored truck chase in U4.

DFresh1029d ago (Edited 1029d ago )

I'd rate it as the following.

1.) Uncharted 2
(Close to perfection of any game I've played in years. Single Player/Multiplayer/Co Op all amazing.)

2.) Uncharted 3
(On par with UC2 multiplayer/co op wise minus the kickbacks [aka killstreaks]. I really liked the Lawrence of Arabia story.)

3.) Uncharted 4
(Single player is amazing. Multiplayer was meh. Co Op had potential. Absolutely hated the health revive system it slowed down the game way too much. Always preferred the fast pace action of UC2/UC3. Made it way more fun that way. Recoil was too ridiculous that most people in lobbies would only do hip firing, using power weapons and using that OP grappling hook to melee people after dropping them. Nobody wanted to revive anyone.)

4.) Uncharted
(It's the first in the series so it's hard to judge. Though I loved the story.)

NecrumOddBoy1029d ago

I agree here but it’s also a series you can play from front to back and truly enjoy. Story-wise, they are all great and flow so well. I wish they threw both Golden Abyss and Lost Legacy on this list. Lost Legacy is the best mechanically in my opinion. You can see it’s stepping stone framework for TLOUS2.

Michiel19891029d ago

uncharted 2 is one of the few games that actually surpassed its pre-release hype.

medman1028d ago (Edited 1028d ago )

I am a single player gamer...I barely ever touch a multiplayer component. The only exceptions over the years have been the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer, TLOU factions, and the Uncharted 2 multiplayer. The Uncharted 2 multiplayer saw me spend more time playing it than all my other multiplayer experiences over the years combined. That game really was a masterpiece all around.

brando0081028d ago

I agree completely, those are all stellar MP experiences, coming from another SP gamer who only occasionally gives MP some time.

Gardenia1029d ago

Come to think of it, the step between Uncharted 1 and Uncharted 2 is huge. It goes from the weakest in the series to one of the best games ever made.
I think I'm going to play all of them again soon.

Ninver1029d ago

Yeah all of a sudden I've got that Uncharted itch.

Michiel19891029d ago

is multiplayer still up for the remastered trilogy? or did it never have UC2 mp?

Ninver1028d ago

@michiel1989

Not sure

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