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PC vs Console - Do developers do this on purpose?

PC fanboys on the left and console fanboys on the right. Alright, take a seat and listen up. Developers want you to fight it out. Don't believe me, my opinions will make you see the light. The whole thing seems to obvious to me.

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brown0094565d ago

I think that MW3 screwed the PC out of Elite because they have had pirated copies of MW3 already. Good read though.

NYC_Gamer4565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

the game could also be downloaded on the 360 as we speak so doubt that is the reason

T9004565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

"However, nobody can disagree that the money you spend on a console vs a PC puts the console in the lead for cash vs. what you get."

I would completely disagree with this comment on the article. I think console gaming is rather expensive due to high prices of games.

A PC that significantly outperforms a console can be had for 500usd. Hence the difference between console and PC is a mere 200usd. Less in the 360's case because you need to pay to go online on a yearly basis. However once you account how cheap games on the PC are and how much more a PC can do vs a console, the PC easily wins the cost effect arguement.

Sure you can build a 2000usd PC and then argue PC gaming is expensive, however by that time you are comparing a ferrari to a kia and then complaining about price.

The only reason call of duty elite is limited to console is because these are 2 different crowds, Activition knows they can milk the console crowd this way, however they wont be getting much of a response from PC gamers. As it is the console gamers that buy DLC maps by the truck loads anyways, Console gamers most of them anyways dont know such stuff can be made for free, its just that developers are being greedy and not shipping games mod options, however since most console gamers are ok with it, its a gold mine for pubs like activision.

dangert124565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

Not long ago, I would of told you PC gaming is overrated,

IMO the reason PC steps all over console gaming Is 99% of the PC counter parts are cheaper then console version and allow you to have mods were the console version does not though It cost more.

PC has a much bigger library
Communities last longer and seem more dedicated, amd are also alot friendlier then console communities.

Only thing I'd go to consoles for Is the exclusives like my Ps3 hardly gets used now but I want
Uncharted 3 etc but cos Pc gaming has such amazing offers I can wait for It to go down In price on ps3 with ease

Oh and the fact PC games tend to give you more value for money, better visual presentation player counts et

DBLDeathDealer4565d ago (Edited 4565d ago )

T-900 - Great comments, just want to say a few things. "The only reason call of duty elite is limited to console is because these are 2 different crowds, Activition knows they can milk the console crowd this way, however they wont be getting much of a response from PC gamers"

You say it right here. This is the whole problem in my opinion. Sure, there is two different systems but we are one crowd. We are all gamers. There is no reason that the Elite should not be released on both.

The other thing is that my statement is true. Yes, PC once you put a couple extra hundreds in there is a better system, but not everyone has the money for that. With PC you are paying for more then just gaming. You have the ability to do alot more. Just trying to figure out why the developers seem to have this divide. Great points though.

JLesinski4565d ago

Could have a point. It always seems that games get "leaked" or "hacked" for PC releases early. I understand there are pirated copies floating around on console too but not nearly to the extent of on PCs

Blackdeath_6634565d ago

people need to understand that pc gaming is a completely different genre (if you can call it that) than console gaming. sure you get certain games wich overlap in both port for example you canplay cod on both or you can play BF3,crisis and assasins creed on both the pc and console. but what pc gaming is about is the other games that cant be as of yet ported to console like starcraft an diablo and dota. the way i personally see it is that pc gamers should not put them selves under the same roof as console gaming cus their different.

brown0094565d ago

Very true. Lots of different games make it, different. So developers treat it different.

Bladesfist4565d ago

Well you cant play the pc pirated version until release day, you can play the console pirated versions today. So i think its worse on console atm

T9004565d ago

Well you would be lucky to find a crack for a PC version of a pirated game even few weeks after release. For console you dont need a crack, once you console is modded all you need to do is download, burn, play.

With PC you actually need to look for a crack that works and make sure its not some virus, hell even when a crack does work there are often chances of the game not working properly, no such thing on console.

xxxAnubisxxx4565d ago

I'm not sure it's a "planned" thing, but there certainly is some merit to the argument. I guess by keeping gamers arguing with each other, it's keeping their game in the spotlight.

DBLDeathDealer4565d ago

Not sure piracy has anything to do with this. It just seems like a no brainer to take time and ensure the game has the same abilities on all systems.

Just seems the developers keep you holding on for more sometimes and they enjoy reading the thrashing that occur in forums across the world. Simply because one system has something the other does not.

CYBERHATER4565d ago

A PC does more and it always will. Oh and it's cheaper :)

bumnut4565d ago

It CAN be cheaper, I have £500 worth of graphics cards :)

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Rageanitus4565d ago

correction PC does more and always will, and it is more value per a dollar spent.

Its not just that it does more it does things BETTER. Something that console only players fail to realize or acknowledge!

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Why Console Wars are Nothing But Marketing Gimmicks

Where are you on the battleground of console wars? Should we care? Do you care?

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Knushwood Butt1860d ago

So, writing about console wars is a clickbait gimmick?

Razzer1860d ago (Edited 1860d ago )

"No doubt, if Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo wants to pay me to advocate for their products day in and day out, I promise to never touch a competitor’s product ever again. But most of us are normal people, and most of us should ignore people who have an agenda that is either self-serving, in the interests of some soulless corporation, or both."

So...

Ignore corporate shills!

(Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo.....please make me your corporate shill)

Atom6661858d ago

My theory on gaming "fans" on the internet:

30% are shills.
30% are children.
30% have a legitimate mental health diagnosis.
10% are normal adults with personal likes and dislikes.

The 4th group are nice to find. The third group are easily ignored. The second group are excused. That first group are my reminder that none of these corporations are In this business for some misguided altruistic cause.

ApocalypseShadow1858d ago (Edited 1858d ago )

Straight up: I used to buy all consoles. Even Xbox. Still have the first one. I have nothing against gamers or their game preferences of genres. Just blind support and spending that hurts the console industry I play in that effects me or will effect me. Like paying for online when I knew it was coming for everyone and stated that years ago on N4G during PS3 days. Those multiple comments are back there somewhere.

The war is about supported strategies of a company that may not have your best interests and I'll always rally against it. If that's fanboyism or continuing a console war, I'll keep doing it.

I don't support EA and all their machinations. I've boycotted their games for over a decade. I want competition like NFL 2K. I'm not going to buy Madden just because. And I believe 2k was better at putting things in the game over EA's lies of "its in the game." Why support a company like EA when you know they have ulterior motives?

Microsoft. Why would I support a company that has near a trillion dollars but doesn't make games like Sony does? Why support their ideas of services and fleecing gamers wallets with new schemes? DRM2013 was their attempt to control our gaming habits like Stadia will do which is no trading, lending or owning games. Why support their lies and misleading statements that we all know they're guilty of? Crackdown being their last recent example.

It's not about war. It's about where you want gaming to go. And what companies are doing their best to support gamers and gaming's future while making money. Sony has time and time again, showed they care about games and growing the industry. Not controlling it. With companies trying to destroy traditional gaming with mobile style micro transactions, season passes, loot boxes, etc, and now GaaS and lack of ownership, the war continues. I'm not sorry for who I support when I can clearly see Sony being better at offering options like VR while still making money. And still being friendly. If you're against that, I'm against you. If Sony ever changes, I'll be against them.

yellowgerbil1858d ago

Tell that to the fallen... 3DO, Phillip's, Casio, Atari, Sega. Next up Google and amazon

Orionsangel1858d ago (Edited 1858d ago )

Console wars began because as a kid your parents could only afford to buy you one system. You had a chose to make between two systems. For example NES or SMS. I picked SMS as a kid. Now my main concern was that my system got the best exclusive games and became the most successful. Because if it didn't it would become discontinued and I wouldn't have anymore games to buy for my system. So in school I would defend the SMS and my other friends would defend NES. It became a war of who had the better system. In other words console wars are all about protecting your one investment.

ApocalypseShadow1858d ago

Not exactly for me. When I was younger, we played all the systems and went to each other's houses to play them.

I got a Sega Master System after an NES because Zillion reminded me of Macross/Robotech and Phantasy Star looked cool and different than Nintendo RPGs. And I continued to support Sega because of the nonsense 3rd party policies and strong arming Nintendo tried with NES. I still had an NES and a SNES. But Nintendo lost points for the way they acted and I had no problem of them losing their grip on the industry with Sony releasing PS1.

I didn't get into the which was better. Because games were subjective. I got into which developers and companies did better for gamers and which companies were just into cash grabs. And to avoid them. Basically inform others on being better shoppers because there were games like from LJN that were garbage. The industry didn't need more garbage or a sequel of the video game crash that was filled with garbage. Seen my share on Atari .

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Top 3 Things Xbox Needs to Regain Lost Ground

The biggest complaint most gamers have had with Xbox, also including times before the Xbox One, was its lack of exclusives in comparison to Nintendo and Sony. This is something that has become more and more of a problem over the continued lifespan of the Xbox One.

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Razzer2547d ago (Edited 2547d ago )

2017 is the year of new IP on Xbox One? Sea of thieves and what else?

Xbox One is cheaper than PS4? Depends on the region, I guess. Still same $299 base price in the US for both.

Either way, the lost ground is just lost. MS would have to do some extreme stuff to top PS4. None of the stuff mentioned in the piece is enough.

Neonridr2546d ago

pretty sure the article talks about regaining lost ground (ie closing the gap), not surpassing the PS4.

Razzer2546d ago (Edited 2546d ago )

Equally daunting task that would require Xbox domination for months and months. As I said, it would require extreme measures and nothing mentioned in the article would suffice.

Neonridr2546d ago

pretty sure more exclusives would definitely help. I mean it wouldn't hurt.

Razzer2546d ago

Yeah...definitely would help.

Kingthrash3602546d ago

No way will it ever catch ps4. It's far too late. Gotta wait until next gen, and if they don't start pumping out new ips the next gen is a loss as well

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SegaGamer2546d ago

What is the point of articles like this ? i see them everyday on here. Microsoft can't realistically do anything now to gain ground on Sony, it's just not going to happen no matter how much they try. The Playstation brand is just too big, it's been this way since the PS1.

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Rolling the Dice: Do Modern RPGs Miss the Point of Team-Based Play?

It seems it was long time ago. A bunch of friends spending hours on end playing RPG games, sitting around the table with the box of cold pizza. Excited about the story, listening to the Game Master, they were completely engaged in the worlds only visible to them and their imaginations.

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Takwin2634d ago

The GM is the programmer, and in MMOs and co-ops, you can play with others. If you want to ONLY use your imagination for the visuals, read a book.