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SCEA Praises Uncharted 3 Review For Saying It’s “A Much Better Game Than Gears of War 3″

Sony has praised a publication’s Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception review for saying it’s a “much better game than Gears of War 3.

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PS3ROCKS4585d ago ShowReplies(1)
Optical_Matrix4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

I smell flamebait on Gamersmint's behalf as usual. But, Sony clearly knows how much of a good game Gears of War 3 also is. So, you know, I'd be glad too. Uncharted imo is the better franchise anyways.

EDIT: If you're telling me that Title isn't flamebait then you're kidding yourself. Where was the need to report this. It's an overly pointless comment from the article writer and the person from 'Sony' who posted the tweet. I'd go as far as to say that person has as little to do with SCE as you can without not actually working for them.

This is flamebait. End of story. And this story will reach 1000 degree's for that exact same reason.

cyborg4585d ago

The reviewer stated that in his review, and Sony came out and praised that. We've also analysed the comment, and it also seems the case as far as the aggregation of review scores are concerned.

fluffydelusions4585d ago

Except it wasn't Sony rather just some guy who works at Sony.

Shanks4585d ago

I agree with cyborg & fluffy.

ActivistBike4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

@Shanks
You called out avclub.com's review on Uncharted as "looking for hits". Yet you see no wrong in another review saying its better than another game. Last time i checked reviewers can say whatever they want, but some people like you cant deal with that fact. Unless its all positive!

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Bigpappy4585d ago

I guess we all need something to make us feel better about our selves.

Now lets say U3 is the better game, yet it does sell half of Gears 3 mil in the first week. Who do you think would be more please? Sony or M$?

Anyway, this is childish bickering.

DrakesOnAPlane4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

It's fairly obvious the reviewers have spoken and they say that Uncharted 3 is the better game - if you disagree, check Metacritic. I said it before in a comment, but Gears doesn't come close to Uncharted in any category, granted it's still a great game, but from the reviews I read, Uncharted 3 is insanely awesome.

One more day!

@Bigpappy
Who do you think would be more please? The gamers because we got two awesome games.

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MaxXAttaxX4585d ago

How is it news worthy or remotely bad?

All he ever said was "Well said".

morganfell4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

This comment by Patrick Seybold is still infantile and unwarranted. There isn't a shred of dignity or humility in the remark...anywhere. It is the sort of sophomoric behavior I would expect to hear from Aaron Greenberg.

As for N4G remarks such as Big Pappy's, they accuse Seybold of the very actions that he himself then turns around and commits. Sales are no better mark of quality than are Metacritic numbers.

Unless you possess the depth of a kiddie pool, sales can no more make you feel better than can the comments of reviewers.

When the developers are above such school yard boasting, the corporate personnel should certainly be able to elevate themselves. And his action is quite indefensible.

Gears of War III, a great game can hardly be compared with Uncharted 3. Not because of quality but due to a marked dissimilarity that even Stevie Wonder could spot.

As a gamer we should not be concerned with such ridiculous boasting. Rather our sole worry should be that we cannot replicate ourselves nor shift dimensions in order to play both titles at the same time.

kaveti66164585d ago

"if we are talking about facts here
uc3 has better gfx/story/gameplay and better total scores those are all facts"

Some of those are facts, and some of those are not.

lastdual4585d ago

"It's fairly obvious the reviewers have spoken and they say that Uncharted 3 is the better game..."

Meanwhile, if Forza 4 has a higher metacritic score than GT5:

"Who cares about reviews? Decide for yourself!"

I get that N4G is a magnet for fanboys, but all the double standards lately are going to leave my forehead raw from face palming.

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SkylineR4584d ago

I better return my copy of gears 3 because U3 has 3 or whatever more points on metacritics, because you know, at 91, that's a TERRIBLE game...

Sigh

Why does Sony seem to be take the immature route when it comes to its competitors? BOTH games are great regardless of their similar scores. Only a fool would pass either one up. (or fanboys with just 1 console).

Gears 3 rocks.
Uncharted 3 will rock. 'Nuff said!

Dee_914584d ago (Edited 4584d ago )

@lastdual
1.He didnt say uc3 is better than Geow3 because reviewers says so,like so many people say about the gt5 forza reviews.But that the REVIEWERS think UC3 is better.
2.It makes total sense to use one person comment to stamp double standards on the n4g community./s
Hypothetically speaking,who knows maybe he was one of the ones saying forza was better

There are alot of double standard here and should be because its a gaming site and a gaming site will have fanboys.
But that wasnt an example.

OT
.. a gamersmint article eh?
I would rather we have hhg over that site.

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Dante1124585d ago

Sony praises review, gamermint spins it to Sony praises a review saying UC3 is better than GeOW3=HITS!!!

cyborg4585d ago

first off, Sony was praising THE particular sentence which said "Uncharted 3 is much better game than gears" and not the review. We didn't spin it. Did you even read the post?

frostypants4585d ago

"Sony" didn't praise anything.

A-Glorious-Dawn4584d ago (Edited 4584d ago )

@cyborg.

I find the whole thing ridiculous. First off this guy is not 'sony' I see it as a huge sign of immaturity when one refers to multinational corporations as singular entities. Sony is a collective of many, many opinions and many within Sony may indeed prefer gears to uncharted...

Second and most obviously, just because one works within a corporation does not mean he cannot express his opinions or agree with others opinions...

Now re read the article and ask yourself if this can really be called news...

Enjoy your hits

StraightPath4585d ago

Oh my days?! 2% more on metacritic ! a huge difference! /s

Gears Of War 3 was amazing game the whole package and as for Uncharted 3 can not wait to play it, love the vibrant graphics of Uncharted games.

Two amazing games . Winners Gamers.

Kurt Russell4585d ago

Concur sauce on your chest.

TruthSeeker4585d ago

Yeah I like how sony employee = Sony. No

jack_burt0n4585d ago

to a 1000 degreees and beyond!!!!!!!!

showtimefolks4585d ago

gears 3 is MS's big title so they would say the same thing. How is this fair that when MS PR greensburg talks crap its ok but when sony or their PR appraise a review its all of the sudden wrong

end of the day if you are a gamer with both consoles you know this

Gears 3 is the best gears game in its series and taking 3 years to develop and run a proper beta has helped big time

Uncharted 3 has made the online much much better from uncharted 2 and added a lot of little perks and features that were missing in Uncharted 2 online. The story is about 8-9hrs long but is much more mature and not just action prices, they have actually developed the characters and in the 3rd game everything has come together nicely also and the puzzles are much better and clever atleast taht's what a lot of the reviews are stating

Gears 3 is MS's biggest title of 2011 and Uncharted 3 is the biggest from sony and i have seen more advertisement in my area for Uncharted 3 than i saw for gears 3

so peace and love enjoy both and These are PR guys what do you expect sony to say that gears 3 is better than uncharted 3 or the other way around from MS

so giggle at these comments and enjoy 2 of the better games of 2011

SilentNegotiator4585d ago

So what? Should he have scolded them?

I've personally always thought that Uncharted was a better cover-based TPS. It doesn't shy away from the vertical and the gameplay mechanics in general feel more natural and smooth. They're from a similar genre; nothing wrong with comparing two big hitters of the season from the same basic genre.

mandf4584d ago

This is the same crap site that posted the Edge review instead of posting their own. Flamebait after flamebait article. Gamersmint, Examiner, and CVG are all the same make stuff up or right off info from other site.

mandf4584d ago

Edit The wife is talking my ear off. lol

rip off info from other sites.

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iamnsuperman4585d ago

Sony???? Well actually it is "Sr. Director, Corp Comm & Social Media – SCEA, Patrick Seybold". Not an official Sony opinion.

fluffydelusions4585d ago

Yeah just cause someone works for a company doesn't mean he speaks for the company.

LOGICWINS4585d ago

When Kaz Hirai apologized for the PSN crash...wasn't he speaking for Sony?

When Jack Tretton hosts the E3 keynote...doesn't he speak for Sony?

Explain to me how this situation is any different from the ones that I listed above.

gamingdroid4585d ago

They sort of do as t he face of the commpany. Especially on matters related to the company. He is also the essentially the marketing director....

Pozzle4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

@LOGICWINS: Official PSN apologies and official Sony E3 keynotes are different than a random Sony employee's twitter though.

If it was written on an official Sony twitter, then sure, he'd be speaking on Sony's behalf. But it's written on Patrick Seybold's own personal twitter. So he's obviously speaking for himself.

Nicaragua4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

They speak for Sony because they are chosen to be spokespersons for the company, so what comes out of their mouth is the offical company statement as decided by the PR division and as signed off by the board.

Some guy who works at Sony voicing an opinion is not the same - i would have thought the distinction between this person and Jack Tretton or Kaz Hirai is obvious.

iamnsuperman4585d ago

@logicwins. This is his personal account. His opinion. Keynote and official press responses from Kaz Hirai are completely different. Looks bad on Sony but it isn't Sony said X.

GarandShooter4585d ago

He's the Senior Director, Corporate Communications & Social Media for SCEA (for those who may not understand the abbreviations), communications being the key word here. It's not like he's a Customer Service rep or loading dock worker.

I believe he may very well speak for the company, just not through his Twitter account.

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LOGICWINS4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

"This is his personal account. His opinion. Keynote and official press responses from Kaz Hirai are completely different. Looks bad on Sony but it isn't Sony said X."

His Sony credentials are on his account..so its definetly not a personal account. He even has a link to the PS Blog. It his business twitter.

https://twitter.com/#!/seyb...

@Lyr1c-

1. I just asked a question. If that constitutes "putting Sony in a bad light"..I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I'll try to consider them next time.

2.Why are you so worried about what I'm doing? You waste just as much energy being concerned about my actions.

EDIT: Your entire comment is off-topic. I'm surprised your comment hasn't been removed yet. If you don't like the way I do things, use the ignore button.

Amiz4585d ago

"His Sony credentials are on his account..so its definetly not a personal account."

His Sony "credentials"? All he has written is his job description. Which makes it easy for fans or followers to identify him on twitter.

That's like me writing "Gamestop employee" on my twitter. That wouldn't make my twitter an official Gamestop account.

TheOneYouHate4585d ago

@LOGICWINS... Amiz OWNED you lol

Christopher4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

@fluffydelusions: actually, that's pretty much what it means.

If I walk into a store and a salesperson says they don't like my kind of people there, they are acting as a representative of their store. It doesn't make what they said right and that they won't get fired for such a comment, but it is still someone speaking for the company at which they work and won't go unchanged until someone at the company says otherwise. Especially someone in the position of managing social media who is always speaking on behalf of Sony, let alone on a social media site?

Don't get me wrong, I love the scores Uncharted 3 is getting and have little to no care for Gears of War 3 after playing the first one (just not my type of game/story), but his comment is one he should not have made knowing his position and the voice he carries on expressing the thoughts of Sony Corp.

If the guy starts to post pictures of nude models on his "personal twitter page", tell me how you think Sony would react to this public figure? Is it still his personal twitter page or does putting his corporate credentials on it make it just as much about Sony?

Of course, that is just my opinion.

LOGICWINS4585d ago

^^Agreed. Same concept applies if say a racist waiter uses a slur against you at IHOP. Who do you sue, the waiter or IHOP?

Pozzle4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

@cgoodno: I don't know...most places I have worked for have made me sign contracts that explicitly state any opinions I express in their store does not reflect the opinions of the store/company itself. I don't know how Sony's contracts work, but I imagine they have something similar. Not only because there are many different people working for Sony with all sorts of different opinions that might clash with each other, but also to protect themselves from lawsuits if an employee suddenly starts spurting racist, sexist or offensive comments on their twitter or in a Sony store. Presumably, Sony has some sort of legal clause that would prevent them from getting into any trouble if this were to happen.

Sure, some people might say this one man is representing the entire company by putting Sony's name on his twitter. But if he ever tweets something that Sony doesn't like, Sony can easily turn around and say "He doesn't represent our company's opinions. We have a legal contract to prove that."

Arksine4585d ago

Okay, so a Sony PR guy agrees with a review that says UC3 is better than Gears 3 on his Twitter account. This is news how? Is this somehow wrong?

Christopher4585d ago

***@cgoodno: I don;t know...most places I have worked for have made me sign contracts that explicitly state any opinions I express in their store does not reflect the opinions of the store/company itself.***

Which is what they use in case they need a legal out for someone making a statement that goes against the company's policies. Doesn't change the fact the statement is made and seen as a representation of the company. As I mentioned: "it is still someone speaking for the company at which they work and won't go unchanged until someone at the company says otherwise."

OC_MurphysLaw4585d ago

Wow... that is some serious spin going on. If a senior officer of a company goes on record with something ....yes he is speaking for the company. ESPECIALLY... If said official is the Sr. Director of Corporate Communications & Social Media... for all the kids that dont get it...he is in charge of official communications for the company. AKA... if he says something publically...he represents Sony.

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papashango4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

In todays media fluffy thats exactly what it means. Have you not been following the news? personal twitters are being referenced nowadays. A wrong tweet by someone associated with a company can directly affect stock value.

Hate to break it to you but this is the new standard not because it's fishing for hits but because you people allow it.

just like we are witnessing gaming change with dlc, online passes, dbl xp codes the media too is also changing and new standards will be set even if like gaming it is not in our best interest.

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MaxXAttaxX4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

'Amiz' above already made a really good point.
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But ok, so a PR guy agrees with a review.
How is it news worthy or bad?

All he ever said was "Well said".

Outside_ofthe_Box4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

I have never seen so much idiocy in my life.

This is in no way representative of what SONY thinks.

It's ONE person's OPINION.

Logic and Cgoodno just don't want to admit that they are wrong.

Answer me this... If he were to say "The Lakers are the best Basketball team in the NBA" is that all of a sudden what SONY thinks lol?

No of course not because that is his opinion and his OPINION only. Don't compare this to racial slurs. Racial slurs are not tolerated period and is just plain wrong. So of course the Company would step in and say that their company is nothing like that and what have you.

BUT if a sales person were to say the LAKERS are the best team in basketball the company is not going to be like "Err no, this is not our policy. We are Knicks fans" lol.

It's unbelievable what people try to claim as true.

gamingdroid4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

So let me get this straight, the *SENIOR* SOCIAL MARKETING guy at Sony says things about his company's product publicly on a social channel isn't representative of the company?

I'm sorry, but as PR figure for the company *IS* one of the many faces of the company. Whatever he says about the company's product especially on a social medium (due to his title) is the company's message until Sony denounces it!

Even if it is his personal opinion, it becomes the company's message simply because of his title and affiliation with the company.

Let me break it down for you:

Sr. Director -> big honco at Sony marketing
Corp Comm -> Corporation Communication i.e. Public Relations!
Social Media -> you know, that twitter account!

You can spin it any way you want, but the public will see it otherwise. No amount of crying here will change that!

MaxXAttaxX4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

Dude, give it a rest.

His statement was not official.
It's his personal account. He talks about anything, from sports to movies and music. Are those official Sony statements too? GTFO.
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Again, 'Amiz' above made a really good point. Here, I'll quote him:
"""All he has written is his job description. Which makes it easy for fans or followers to identify him on twitter.

That's like me writing "Gamestop employee" on my twitter. That wouldn't make my twitter an official Gamestop account."""

The way you want to view it, that's up to you.
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So what if he agrees with the review?
All he said was "well said", then GamersMint sees an opportunity for controversial article and people like you come around trying too hard, etc.
This happens nearly all the time.

Outside_ofthe_Box4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

Who's crying? And who's saying anything about Sony's product?

The only people spining things around is you(gamingdroid), logic and cgoodno.

This is about a review. And his opinion on it. It is not representing Sony at all. An opinion, unless about their own product(like you stated), does not represent what the company thinks. It's an opinion. I'm sure many people at Sony think UC3 is better than Gears it would be odd if it weren't the case, but as far as the thoughts on the review that is purely his opinion.

Once again, if he were to instead say "The Lakers are the best team in basketball" is that representative of what Sony thinks?

No it is not as it is his opinion and his opinion only.

gamingdroid4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

***An opinion, unless about their own product(like you stated), does not represent what the company thinks.***

Unfortunately, it does represent the company especially if it is about a product that is manufactured/developed by his employer. He is representing himself as an employee of Sony PR to get that credibility.

Besides, if he went out and said racial slurs, what do you think will happen?

Sony will immediately distance themselves, so until Sony distance themselves it is official representation especially a man in his position as SENIOR MARKETING DIRECTOR speaking to the public!

Now, if he was "under-payed grunt of xyz company" then it would be his own personal opinion. When you are in PR, practically everything you say represents the company.

ShinMaster4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

^^ These people are correct.

@gamingdroid

Ok I'll give you this.
What if the ENTIRE Sony corporation agreed with the review.
So what? What of it?

Outside_ofthe_Box4585d ago (Edited 4585d ago )

@gaming droid

A racial slur is different. I've already mentioned that. Saying a racial slur unlike an opinion is wrong.

Can an opinion be wrong? No.

Is saying a racial slur wrong? Yes.

That is the difference you fail to see.

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smurfz4585d ago

Having been fortunate enough to play both the titles, I can safely say both Sony and this fine reviewer are correct!

doctorstrange4585d ago

Having been fortunate enough to play both the titles, I can safely say both are awesome.

jp_footy24585d ago

Having played neither, I can safely say I'm more looking forward to playing Uncharted 3.

Godmars2904585d ago

Bit of a pointless comment in general to make really. Unnecessary.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers25d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken25d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g25d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing25d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H925d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola25d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66925d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle25d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg26d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos26d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola26d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies46d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken46d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga46d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken46d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6446d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long46d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197246d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic46d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12546d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91346d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer46d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91345d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit45d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher46d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6945d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit45d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher46d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken46d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197246d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic46d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2346d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218346d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder46d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts46d ago

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