PlayStation 3 hacked again?

Eurogamer: "Reports are emerging that the PlayStation 3 has been hacked once again in the form of a successor to the original PSJailbreak, dubbed "JB2".

Similar to the first hack, JB2 apparently takes the form of a USB dongle that plugs directly into the PS3 and compromises the system on power-up. Videos released so far of the device in action appear to show an extended boot -up period before the XMB finally appears, featuring a number of options only available to developer consoles, allowing for the installation of unsigned code.

It's still unconfirmed beyond all doubt whether JB2 is the real deal or not. However, the evidence piling up over the last 24 hours does suggest that Sony's successful anti-piracy measures - which kicked off with the release of Portal 2 and the 3.60 firmware just over six months ago - may have finally been overcome."

[NYC_Gamer]

some new way around the update was bound to happen

[RedDragan]

The security can't be that bad, it took them six months get around a security fix. On another platfom like iOS, Xbox 360, Windows it takes just weeks, sometimes days to get around security fixes.

Not too mention it took years to initially crack it which was previously unheard of as far as consumer products are concerned.

If the next security fix takes six months to crack then I would think Sony had little to worry about. The pirates get a few weeks of free games with PSN, but then a long wait and a wasted amount of cash on the JB device... because they were charging for that!

All in all it would infact appear to be an extremely secure system considering the PS3 is considered the Holy Grail of targets to hack.

(PS. I am not saying all hackers are pirates, just the vast majority)

[disturbing_flame]

Actually the PS3 slim may sell a lot more.

[StarWolf]

you act as if there are thousands of people waiting for this. maybe like 200 max and thats being nice

[disturbing_flame]

200 max worldwide ? Every week ?

I think you underestimate the number.

[T3MPL3TON]

Somebody is living in a fantasy world.

For every paying customer there are 10 who will cheat the system.

[Old McGroin]

I agree with disturbing_flame, there's surely more than 200 individual PS3 pirates worldwide.

Check out this round up of the most pirated games of 2010, the PS3 isn't on the list but top games on PC, Wii & 360 are being pirated over 1 million times each on BitTorrent alone and you can bet that a lot of the people doing this have a PS3 as well:

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

[DrRobotnik]

And then there will be an update that will make this whole article null and void.

[evrfighter]

and then a new revised usb dongle will come out that overrides the new update.

it's just going to be a endless loop from this point forward until console next-gen

[LackTrue4K]

here's a question that always comes to my mind when they bring up pirating. "dose sony lose alot more money from them pirated games?! Even if they sell a 5hit load more systems?!

[caseh]

They kind of do, they will shift more systems which they don't make much money on...but they also develop their own games and publish others so they take a hit on those titles.

It can also go the opposite way, you may play a pirated game which you can't play online. It may lead to you buying future titles or even that game to play online.

Lots of variables to consider where piracy is concerned, its part of the reason why it hasn't crippled the industry as much as some make out in over 30 years.

[Legion]

Good point. I travel a lot and see how Sony and MS fair against each other in many countries. The countries that have a larger piracy market are known to side with the system that is cracked.

So though a company might loose a lot of revenue on software they gain an advertising and system surge with the many people finding the modding of the system to be more cost effective.

Note that it doesn't seem to diminish the number of people that will still buy a system without modding it. Most people that I know have multiple systems and buy games based on internet capabilities for their non-modded systems.

[jerethdagryphon]

they could stop it by changing usb power up to not until the system is fully booted

deny power to the usb and disc/memerycard systems until the os is fully booted

[Jdrm03]

Good point. It was one of the main selling reasons for the ps2 and the ps1. I never knew anybody that did not have chipped consoles so they could play burnt games.....

[MasterCornholio]

I will stick to supporting the devs. Thank you very much.

XperiaRay

[lorianguy]

And you, my friend will get a bubble up for that.
The devs work hard and if cheapskates and penny pinchers won't support them then future budgets will decrease, leading to lower-quality games. And we don't want that, do we?

[blumatt]

Another bubble to MasterCornholio and lorianguy

Developers need our money to keep making games. if everyone stole their copies, (Yes, I said stole.) the games industry could not survive. People need to start buying more games. However, I do understand that some people don't have the funds for buying new games. At the very least, go out and buy a used copy and don't steal/pirate it. (same meaning).

[caseh]

I don't get the whole 'support the devs!' ethos...

They make a product, you pay for it. We all buy many things on a daily basis, I drive a VW Golf...I didn't buy it thinking 'support the manufacturer!'

Don't get me wrong, i pay for my games and i'm careful about what I buy. If a game is crap I won't buy it, I don't care about who developed it.

When was the last time you played a game that was inferior to its predecessor because they had to cut back on development due to piracy?

[gta2800]

If your game sells then developers will keep making games on your platform...if a lot of people begin pirating games and the developers aren't turning a profit...what do you think the developers are gonna do after that? Some developers stopped developing on the PSP because of piracy and the same can happen to any console if the issue gets as big as it did on the PSP.

[Legion]

On the same point your game isn't going to get pirated if it doesn't sale.

The most pirated games are those that are in high demand.

Name me a few of these developers that stopped developing for PSP due to piracy? I haven't heard a single developer step up and make such a claim.

Piracy can really hurt a market, but spreading false reports on piracy only weakens your argument. Making people think that all of the piracy issues are mute and null.

[jerethdagryphon]

when you buy a branded product your supportign the ocmany who made it be it a pack ofchips to a dvd the sale is recorded which furthers developmentand production for whatever buy a chocolate bar filled with dried worms and cadburys will continue to make them its that simple

[sonnyz]

I buy my games used. I guess I'm not "supporting the devs!"

[Cenobia]

@sonnyz

You're not.

I hope you aren't buying from somewhere like Gamestop..then you are not supporting the people that made the game, you are supporting a re-seller that makes most of its profit selling to people like you.

You are also getting ripped off...

[KonGreat]

now THAT deserves a bubble.

@gta2800
the total percentage of who pirate their games compared to the sales it is really insignificant. And I know that there's been studies done that shows that at least on the PC most people who download their games buy them if they like them later on.
The worst (and the ones that should be punished) are the ones who try to profit by downloading and copying game and then selling pirated games on the market.

[a08andan]

Yeah me too. I would never pirate a console game or even try too. I don't see how this could be hard to counter-act. Guess Sony will just put out new firmware which makes the USB-ports power on AFTER the system has loaded. Should be possible, shouldn't it?

[smashcrashbash]

Very well said. I am amazed how the people who go on and on about how greedy and corrupt companies are but are always so ready and eager to cheat and steal from them. They harp on about rights and fairness but don't think developers and the companies have a right to profit from the things that belong to them.

Funny thing is that if these so called geniuses ever made anything or formed a company they would never give away what they have for free or cheaply or like it if anyone stole from them.It's always easy to be nice and give away other peoples' stuff. 'Its okay to steal Sony's property' But if I hacked into their computers and stole all their data for my own reasons or for profit, I'll bet you they wouldn't laugh and compliment me.They would want blood.

[lorianguy]

It will stop working eventually.. Sony has ways of crippling exploits...

[digitalivan]

It will maybe stop working on the next games but not on all the one already released. Then it will get hacked again, and so the circle continues.

[WitWolfy]

I doubt this is true, that would mean that they had to get the latest PS3 dev keys some way or another to make this possible.

Guess we would have to wait and see if its true. But I bet my bottom dollar it isnt

[Dark_Overlord]

There was an article I read a few weeks ago where someone had the latest dev kit, he even provided photos

[FrigidDARKNESS]

bad time for this to happen when BF3 and uncharted 3 are about to release.

[badjournalism]

I guess the whole thing about needing 3.55 to use this was lost on many people...

[SixShotCop]

I read this in the paper sometime last week. No big deal if you ask me. Sony will fix this in no time.

[hilyou]

wat is it with hackers trying 2 hack ps3!

[vickers500]

Free sh*t

[Tonester925]

Get a job "Witcha Broke A$$"

[Legion]

People hack for the sake of basically solving a problem... especially when it is addressed that it is not possible to do. That just makes people want to do it more.

Then once that is done then you get the business ventures who think they can squeeze some profits out of it and sale the product for next to nothing.

There will always be a market for pirated products the question is how do you limit the detriment to your own marketing plan and profits?

Xbox and Xbox 360 have been pirated from near day one, and yet it doesn't seem to have effected their market profits to the point that they have to worry about profit loss to any great extent. MS still has a diligent anti-piracy campaign but they know when and whom to attack when dealing with piracy.

They know it is inevitable and focus the majority of their efforts to reduce the impact on customers by trying to deal with the internet activity versus the actual update and prevention of hacking itself. They basically deputize all their gold members into anti-piracy police by allowing easy and simple reporting of activity.

Sony does not operate their internet service in the same fashion as MS and their system is less restrictive. And that in effect has limited their abilities to monitor effectively boosters and such that effects customers and gameplay. The sole premise behind Sony anti-piracy seems to be on profit loss versus customer concern and prevention of gameplay manipulation.

I truly don't think that piracy on PS3, PS2 or even PS1 has hurt the profitability of the company. I think that how the new age of internet gaming and interactivity is focused is what will hurt them in the long run. They need to focus on ensuring their customers are getting a booster free gaming environment at any cost. (just my 10 cents worth)

[GribbleGrunger]

Uncharted 3 on it's way. convenient timing don't you think

[Pintheshadows]

We all knew this would happen again. It's a war, not a battle.

[Ddouble]

So lets see.
-You have to buy a dongle.
-You can only play new games by burning them on to a disc.
-You still can't get on PSN so no multiplayer

Not worth it IMO and i'll rather support the devs. Sony could probably fix it with a firmware update as well.

[digitalivan]

Like the last time, free software option will follow.

[ZBlacktt]

Whenever you see godly trophy cards with 40, 50, 80 Plats. They are all using 3.55 CFW to hack the trophies as well. So much about records and stats are fake.

There are many forums online where countless threads are posted on what games they can hack.

nextgenupdate, etc...

[jessupj]

Every single one of my 59 plats are legit.

[QuodEratDemonstrandm]

So are both of mine.

[jerethdagryphon]

i have 35 plats almost 5 more i dont have any cheating on mine then again i am housebound and have nothing better to do...

[WetN00dle69]

Yeah they will fix it with a firmware BUT bad thing is that all these people dont update their systems. And even they release games that require your system to be running on a specific firmware, these peeps find new ways of jumping over those security features.

[Ddouble]

True, they find new ways but it's not as fast as how they used to hack the PSP. How long has it been since they were not able to play 3.60+.

Portal 2 was the first game that required 3.60+ and that came out in April, 6 months ago. Not been able to play new games for 6 months and no PSN is basically starvation IMO.

[lorianguy]

I'm sure you'll have to update to actually RUN Uncharted. Sony aren't stupid. Since the guy was on 3.55 rather than 3.73, an update will likely patch it.

[T3MPL3TON]

You say like as if they can't find a way around that. Don't be foolish. For every block Sony puts up these guys will be doing all they can to knock them down.

[digitalivan]

@lorianguy
You don't need to update to play Uncharted 3 or any other game that requires 3.6x or 3.7x firmware. That was the whole point of this JB.

[Dante112]

@ digital

Yeah, currently they may or may not found an exploit to play 3.60+ games (They don't have the 3.60+ keys tho, so only 3.55 users can use it and you can't go online to PSN either). Mess up part about this is that you have to buy the original game disk or a backup disc made by them for $20 bucks lol.

Edit: Also, since they don't have the keys, it is very possible for Sony to patch the exploit. Good note though is that you might be able to play newer games till then.

[LightofDarkness]

I don't see Sony going all out to stop this one. Were coming towards the end of the lifecycle of these machines and it likely wouldn't pay to invest huge amount into it. They'll keep making life hard for them, I'm sure, and hopefully adopt the MS approach of swinging the ban hammer every once in a while.

[boommuffin]

im pretty sure sony said their consoles will have 10 year life cycles so were only half way through the PS3s

[boommuffin]

@strobe31 i know what is meant by 10 year life cycle, the guy above me stated that sony wouldnt deal with this because its near the end of its life cycle & fixing this would be supporting it.
i dont know where in my comment you found that they wouldnt release PS4 for another 10 years

[Legion]

@boommuffin

I think he was both answering your question and also in relation to what LightofDarkness stated alluding to the next cycle of systems coming soon. And a need to focus a lot of money into an older system when the easier fix would be for consumers to want to just move to the next generation.

Sony will still support their system for the 10year life cycle but that doesn't mean they will dedicate as much resource to it once the next generation comes out.

Only logical that they will want people to switch to the new generation system. And though support for PS3 will still be there it will be their goal to get people to switch. Games will still be produced for PS3 after PS4 comes out but you can guarantee a lot less system updates for PS3 when the new generation comes.(unless of course it adds beneficially with cross platform play??)

[ziggurcat]

these people are really desperate.

[Fanbot]

"works only on v3.55"
fail

[Cerbus]

If you keep up with the PS3 hacking sites they have proven this is fake.

[digitalivan]

Actually they didn't. Can you go lie somewhere else?

[Dante112]

@ digital and Cerbus We don't really know anything yet till the big PS devs get their kits of this to try it out to see if it works or is legit.

Also at digital's comment just below, it took the devs 8 months if this is true and Sony I believe, 1 month to stop the jailbreakers with the 3.60 update. If they manage to keep these dongles from Sony than maybe it'll last longer (Wishful thinking though, Sony probably bought one now lol).

[ZBlacktt]

Someone trying to steal the thunder from the great PlayStation console again, lol.

But, for real news here. More then a few friends I know and many other's I've seen in threads over the past couple weeks. Have all had their XBox accounts hacked. All their info was on it as well. They had charges on their accounts. So where's the news on this since it's been happening for a long time? Even my own brother who's 37 had his account hacked 2 months ago.

[boommuffin]

you must be one of those fanboys that prays everyday the competitor console gets hacked. if you did a lil research alot of people believe the fault lies with EA & also they way people "Hack" on XBL is they call MS & claim that the account they wanna "Hack" is theirs all they need to know is the 1st & last name of the accounts biiling info so many people do this just to steal original gamertags lol

[maverick1191]

it will get patched like the other firmwares. Give it a week or two and expect a 3.74 or 3.75 to counter act it and from what it sounds it sounds pointless

[digitalivan]

Pointless? It allows pirates to play all the 20 or 30 games they couldn't until now. Even if it gets patched (which will take a lot of time), those games will still remain playable, only the ones released after won't, but then somebody will hack it, like they always do.

[maverick1191]

yes and to download the games which are over 30GB how long will that take on a typical internet line? at least 8 hours +, so yes it's pointless the bill you would run up downloading so many games, you might aswell buy the game yourself and support the developers

although nearly 6 years and the ps3 still hasn't been PROPERLY hacked only little glimpses of it and then sony stop it at least they are stopping it unlike MS and Nintendo

bravo sony

[Titanz]

I'm sure that most of you already know that.

[caseh]

Thats a fact as far as consoles are concerned.

I picked up a wii just so I could softmod it, played about 7-8 games then sold it. HAd my PS3 for about 4 years and i tend to thrive off multiplayer so modding a PS3 isn't appealing due to those factors.

People can disagree if they like, the fact stands I would never have bought the wii if I couldn't have modded it. A fact many people don't notice, people who play copied games never intended to buy them to begin with.

[Titanz]

The Wii has a great library of software (Monster Hunter Tri is worth it, alone).

You'll also miss out on one of the best games of this generation - Legend of Zelda: Skyward Swords.

[N4SIR]

that is so true! i traded some old games in for a used wii. most of the games are boring. the only 2 games that were worth playing are mario galaxy and xenoblade.

But adter about 50 hours i realized i spent most of my time running around in xenoblade doing stupid fetch missions with randomly spawning items. then stopped playing...

[EazyC]

It's like Cabbage Patch Kids... Minus the cabbages.

[Silly gameAr]

Over it. More firmware updates incoming.

[Tanir]

bound to happen. 360 was hacked like day 2. wii day 1, etc etc. aslong as its not psn and taking down the network again i dont care.

people buy bootleg games all the time on other consoles, 6 years later and its the ps3's turn

[bwazy]

Nope, just Chuck Testa.

[Ninjamonkey82]

Next firmware and its just a waste of time for the hackers again ;)

Ain't like there gonna play any there crap online :/. No use to them.

Alright after viewing the second vid i'll take hat back but its only a matter a time before sony fixes this anyway.

[GraveLord]

OMG diz is so coolz!

[Raoh]

meh. useless now..

I gave up on jailbreaking the ps3. i bought the first dongle but then the firmware hack became available, but the games are large in size and never always worked very easily, some worked off of a usb some off a local disc etc..

so i gave up and now with rumor of the next playstation..

hacking the ps3 is worthless, there are so many games... just buy the older games you haven't played on the cheap, even new not just used games.

It's like steam. I can torrent free games for my pc but i prefer a legit steam sale that i will pay for.

these hacks are worthless.

THis title from eurogamer is useless too, i clicked it thinking it was a network hack like the lulz group again, just to find out its a worthless local firmware dongle hack..

not only has sony and microsoft done a poor job this generation, more so the game journalist are the freaking worst..

they belong on TMZ not gaming networks...

[mrmikew2018]

Whoever this person is a idiot. It's not a smart move to be broadcasting this crap online. I hope they get caught.

[barb_wire]

PSX-Scene is saying it requires you to burn games to blank BD's.. if you're going pay for a BD burner and blank BD media, might as well buy the games you want. Would probably be cheaper.

[Bladesfist]

why blu ray drives are cheap, http://www.novatech.co.uk/p...

[Ddouble]

That one can only read not write. The ones that can burn blu-rays are more expensive.

[GoldenPheasant]

I love how 12 year olds and the media have diluted the actual meaning of "hack" or "hacking". F***!

[Enigma_2099]

You gonna blame SONY for this one too?

[Bladesfist]

No im going to blame the other company responsible for the playstations security. /s

Every platform gets hacked and pirated. Its all of the platforms fault.

[Agent_hitman]

There's no device or gadget is unhackable

[renegade]

want a bubble?

[PirosThe4th]

lollololo seems legit :P

[SSultan]

I can care less. Hacked or not.

[Hozi]

Well. This doesnt really affect me. As long as I don't have to play MP with a bunch of cheaters, then I'm good.

[byrnezy]

Agreed, an aslong as psn doesn't go down again, as that sucked hard

[Mister_G]

On-line pass to play ANYTHING then? Including SP campaign. Sigh!

[blackstrr411]

Ps3 gets hacked with a usb again. Weak!!! Atleast in xbox's case u actually have to open on the console before u actually hack it. Mehn usb...usb a freaking usb

[pijinio212]

life finds a way always so hahaha to you sony and your dumb ass hair brained marketing practices..... still love you though ......

[Bebedora]

They need to take their head out of the 'a's's'...secu rity is not their time to shine...

[Zephol]

Xbox live is better!!!

[Bebedora]

Why?

[Nygiantfan7]

lol

[renegade]

I hope they never come online. Cheap ass hacker and annoying cheater that buy this sorts of things.

[Bebedora]

This is how it goes when you do not have Windows XP as an operationg system...

[Lex Luthor]

CAN'T STOP TEH HAXXORRZZ!!!!

[skyblue14213]

Excerpt from article:
"The hack is curious in that unlike the older Jailbreaks, newer games cannot be run from the hard drive: instead, BURNED BLUE-RAY DISCS are used instead with the PS3"

- I stopped reading there. BD-R discs are expensive atm so for most people it is a too expensive endeavor to pursue, maybe in about 5 years when prices come down bd-r discs it will be reasonable. Besides I rather support the console so that developers have the funds to keep their jobs and make more games, and if I support the piracy for the ps3 there will be less funds for the developers to create more and better games.

Until any console that I particularly own is beginning it's way out the door I will continue to support it, after it is on it's way out the door then I don't mind pirating the console. Anyway, at the very least pirated ps3 games atm would cost at least $20-$30 per copy, but I rather wait a few months until a temporary price drop to pick up an official copy of a game for around $30 than to pay around the same price for a pirated copy of the same game. Also I don't want to deal with the hassle of being banned from psn or risk bricking my $500+ ps3 console.